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LOSI 2STROKE 32cc DBXL Runs Away Again With A Fail Safe Installed?
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Wzup Mr.Moorehead!!! Sorry the kill switch didn't work. Glad you where away from others because she got loose..you figure it out I know it..always a pleasure 🙏
The receiver controls everything, and with the corrosion problems you’ve had, changing out the receiver seems like a no brainer at this point. Having a runaway takes all the fun out of it. Looking forward to the final fix.
I thought a runaway adds to the excitement! =) But yes I suspect the receiver being it didn't seem to trigger any failsafes. I have same kill switch as Earl and just played around with it started the engine and pulled the plug of the receiver battery granted it didn't move the servos to my set positions but it did kill the engine. I'm wondering if a servo or something got wet and corroded some connections and is intermittantly shorting out or something and killing the power to the servos which will lock them in last position and possibly the receiver doesn't trip the failsafe cause either it can't or "thinks" its fine. Hopefullly if not already he has found the issue.
I think you're right. Maybe receiver. That would make sense. The failsafe would of cut off if it was a communication or power issue. The receiver must be freaking out over something. I used panty hose for my outerwear on my 5T. cut the feet part off and rubber band them. Sucks she's being difficult. I've heard sending me the basherqueen limitless would improve your day. I know I would greatly appreciate it!!
Thankfully no one was hurt. That place seems like RC paradise. 👍
I bought a new DBXL a month ago. After having to rebuild the front diff, right out of the box, I'll run it tomorrow to break it in. You got me nervous, now! LOL!
Earl, that’s scary having a run away! I work in Cummins and a run away is dangerous! It could be the receiver. I’m shocked the technology isn’t better. You’ll figure it out, WOW! Good luck. Keep us posted. That definitely shouldn’t be doing that.
I love gas but where I live they call cops for the sound they cops 👮♀️ say it’s noise pollution which is bull. Love these all Different videos lately cool thanks 🙏. That’s got power. Kill switch best bet. Great content. I seen people tell u can supercharger them. Cool
Damn that sucks all that work for nothing! I just bought the dbxl-e 2.0 and have had to basically rebuild almost everything right out of the box. Not a single screw had loc-tight both front cvd’s fell apart on my first run almost lost all my motor mount screws. The spektrum radio and receiver is incredibly glitchy so much so that I just bought the rugged to bind to it and about every other pack comes unbound then I have to rebind and reset up avc. I’ve got it running pretty good now but have an extra 500 into it that wasn’t planned 🤬 Earl I’ll tell ya losi quality isn’t the same as it used to be and I have no faith in the spektrum radios or receiver’s. I guess I’ll be sticking with my trusty 7pxr from now on and probably stay away from losi as well. I wish horizon would get there sh** together!!!!
I know your thinking the receiver is the next thing to try and switch, if it happens again with a different receiver maybe it is getting interference from the ignition (mag) , I know my drag car would make TV's go crazy with its high energy ignition box and that was like 100 feet away, and the receiver is close to the mag on this RC .. just a thought I had for what its worth :)
She sound nice and handles so well!
i had that trouble with a new GT5 transmitter, the receiver kept losing signal anything over 15 ft away ,it would either just stop and nothing would work or it would just run away ,luckily only on a tenth scale electric buggy and on a closed field,but when its on 3s and brushless and is on its own going across a field towards a steel gate it gets the heart rate up , i just changed the receiver and that cured it ..
If I loose signal it will cut and voltage loss will cut in thinking it’s signal out from the receiver to the servos 👍👍
That's crazy.. hope you find out the issue real soon Earl. .. scary when it takes off for sure..
Yes
Hopefully u will get it figured out like u said it might be the receiver. Glad there wasn't anyone around
Yes can’t test close to anyone as I know it has an issue
You need a killer rc -super bee kill switch , the latest version has a 5 second kill on the ignition spark, if the car gets erratic it will automatically shut down, if you have a 3rd channel on your radio use the third channel for your cutoff Butten , when you hit that Butten the super bee kill switch will cut off the ignition for 5 seconds ,this is useful when using any spectrum radio which will try to cancel out your kill switch signal , i had that problem with my spectrum radio until i switched to the super bee kill switch.
When the receiver fails internally no kill switch can stop the rc at all in the end we found the spectrum receiver failed threw this series that why it would just take off signal was never lost it was failing on the power output to the throttle servo 💯
“Earl Moorhead In: today at 12:30pm EST A runaway RC was at loose going at high speed. Be careful in the area. They are still testing, so be aware of any high powered RCs running around.” ‘Back to you RCGuyGarage with the weather’
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ok, I had a chance to watch the fill video and read the comments. I can tell you the situation. From my own research, do not use the HORIZON kill switch, only use the KILLER RC model. Also many people reference a situation with the horizon kill switch and the use of a spectrum with AVC radio system,. You're hitting both of the BAD points here. The logic is that somehow that particular radio system is not compatible with the kill-switch setup, that's why you're getting intermittent issues.
But it did the exact same thing with the stock radio that’s why I’m going threw all this and I am running this older DX5C radio with my 5t with no issue and I made sure not to get a receiver with avc now as I’m changing the receiver & servo now since that all that left to replace 🤷🏻♂️ I really want to know what causing this issue? Appreciate the help 💯💯
@@earlmoorhead5555 OK, I see you have done your homework on this issue so far. I highly recommend you try the killer RC kill switch instead of this horizon one. I know it seems unlikely, but in my experiences it's always that issue. BTW the killer RC models come a very loud BUZZER and bright external LED lights, so you always know if you system is on or off.
@@hybrid32494 yes I’m not a fan of the kill switches but if I fix this issue I’ll buy a better one for sure 👍👍
@@hybrid32494 what's up Dymitri 👋 long time
You try the fun of running brushless RC's
Earl swap out the receiver and that will fix your issue. I had this problem with one of my rigs. Once you change it out the run-away issue will go away
Thanks I’m thinking the same way 🤔👍👍
Make sure you set the reciever to its failsafe positions for when it goes into failsafe (for now I have mine set turn the steering left and 70% brakes and kill engine I'm suspecting you don't have the failsafe set on your AUX channel) You can confirm its working by just turning the radio off and the light should go out for the kill switch. Also I would confirm the kill switch is actually stopping the engine another youtuber had that switch and it didn't stop the engine and ended up being defective. I'd check the wiring seems weird when you killed the motor that LED should of went out but its still lit. oh and the DBXL v2 has just as many clips! =) tis a pain to open.
Yes it’s set up 👍
Nice actual footage of a runaway!..👍😎
Some parts are phantom compatible as we’ve all learned. I don’t even use failsafes anymore because vehicles just don’t run away like they used to and second I would just do away with that system , put in new system and be done with it and then if you find out it’s not the receiver and radio problem then you look at the worthless fail safe. That car needs a new 10spd auto. Lol
What new system as everything been replaced but one servo and the receiver 🤔
That thing is crazy 🤪 !! Fast weapon.
You want the idle to be controlled by the settings on your carb, not your controller. Zero trim should have the throttle fully closed and not engage brakes. Adjusting trim to adjust idle will get you in trouble for sure.
Idle is set by my idle screw I use the trim for warm up and start up
I'm sure you will get it straightened out but that's frustrating. Hopefully the receiver will do it for you.
poor guy walking around with all this tense ptsd rc runaway anxiety xD
Yes can’t sleep now 😱
I know it can happen to electric too, but I have never had it happen to me. But between that and the noise, that, it’s the reason I don’t run gas. I already have Karen’s coming out of the woodwork when trying to run my RC’s.
I thought maybe the throttle linkage could be sticking but you’re also losing steering so it wouldn’t be that. Hopefully changing out the receiver will fix it 👍🏻
You've gone over everything, just not a reciever swap.
I had one of my kratons loose signal and go toward a busy road. Once I got it home I noticed my kitty chewed on the wire and it was basically 1/32nd of its original size now and it’s garbage unless I use it for a crawler goes about 50 feet
Yes my speed rc I set a brake at no signal in case I loose range this rc I have the fail safe set to apply brakes as well 👍👍
I have a spectrum rugged controller. I had to take a paint pen and paint the A.B.C.D .F trim Indentations. They're hard to see especially for an old guy like me.🤪😝
Yes very hard to see I set up F 👍👍
Awesome video hope you get that kill switch fixed.
They look and sound very cool but very high maintenance.
Maybe the Losi is having issues that the DBXL that it’s wanting too run away so much.
Seems really weird, I’d sell it and move on myself. Best of luck too you with it brother
Lmao 😂
@@earlmoorhead5555 yep let it do a run away into a new owners hands 🤪
@@bubblesrcshed lol 😂
It’s not Losi’s fault !!
@@JOHND_RC well the manufacturer of parts, somebody is at fault for a product not working the way it should. That’s just my personal opinion though 🤔
Man that sucks , I had a nitro buggy stick wide open throttle once that thing never went that fast before and I never new I could run that fast either 🤣🤣 the only thing that stopped it was it finally crashed and landed upside down with the engine screaming at full throttle definitely sucked and was a bit scary
Before you put the new reciever in try and protect it from vibration good change that alone helped it go bad.
One half assed solder joint can cause on and off problems.
So you don’t feel all the corrosion caused an issue ?
@@earlmoorhead5555 in the reciever too? Then yes replace, I thought the just power switch corroded.
What is going on with all this rust and corrosion in spectrum servos and recievers?
@@rcjunkie260 idk 🤷🏻♂️
Scary stuff Earl would not drive that around people.
Yes
Seems a pain with all the clips but looked really fun to run!
Yes 👍
That can be very dangerous. Great isolated area to run 👍🏻 I’m curious to see what you figure out is causing this. Receiver/transmitter maybe 🤔 could be a servo like a delayed reaction.
Here bro. Watching!!
Nice notification squad 🔥💪
I have been doing my research on this RC Truck and I really want one, but after watching this and thinking of the almost $15.000 price tag, they have to do better than this before I even buy one!
15k 🙃 crazy there 799.00 plus a motor swap for the k&N version 👍👌
They discontinued it 😮 www.horizonhobby.com/product/1-5-kandn-dbxl-4wd-buggy-gas-rtr/LOS05010.html
Might a glitch buster on the receiver help before a reciever swap? Something I did not try?
That's weird 😕 wonder if the receiver is messing up? Quicker than a 5ive T?That sucks, all that work. Receiver I'm thinkin 🤔
That my belief 🤷🏻♂️
12 body clips is alot. Crazy how the switch didn't work.
Right but if there is an internal issue on the signal side of a receiver the fail safe won’t cut is my guess seeing all the corrosion I’m guessing that 😳
great video man
Can't believe it happened again ,hopefully it's the receiver replacement will be the fix 😕
It seems weird that the kill switch didn't work?? I'm sure you will get it sorted out! 💯💯😉
I’m sure you checked but make sure it has a resistor plug in it.
Yes factory plug that came with the motor 👍👍
Dang, how frustrating.
You will figure it out Earl
Yea man that’s scary as hell.
Hey brotha, not as savvy as you are, but from what I’ve been following with you. I had a similar issue with my ARRMA taking off on me full throttle with no steering and I tried swapping out my receiver/controller , (Dumbo) back to the stock Spectrum, and continued to intermittently have the issue STILL after getting a bit of range on it. Turns out “for me”, it was an ESC (blx 100) issue. 🤷🏻 I’m running a Hobby Wing now and issue is gone. The esc was the last thing I could trouble shoot. Hope this helps. 👊🏼
Yes 2stroke rc have no BEC or ESC providing voltage to a receiver but I can see that 👍👍
If you want to test your fail safe, grab ahold of the car so it can't run away and turn off your remote.
Yes that’s turns the truck off so does unplugging the battery and walking out of range
@@earlmoorhead5555 interesting
thing has a mind of its own...
Yes
My DBXL 2.0 is almost as bad to take the body up. It has 8 clips. It acts like the fail safe on the receiver is kicking in. The battery can drop a couple volts if you are on the throttle and steering at the same time if the battery isn't freshly charged, or getting old, causing the failsafe to kick on. That won't trigger the kill switch, and will lock everything up for a second causing a runaway. I had the same issue with my Rampage. If the fail safe isn't set up correctly, it will just lock. You have to set the channels to what you want them to do when that happens. Like full break, steer full left, and you can set the aux channel to trigger to kill the engine. Depending on the receiver, it is usually done at the bind process, I would guess you have the SR315 or SR215 in there?
Battery are new as I went to a lipo battery as the replacement and I charged them before running 👍👍
@@earlmoorhead5555 Must be the failsafe then. Mine gave me a hard time until I got it setup right. But it could be the receiver. The emergency kill takes a couple seconds to kick in if it's triggered so it can still ruin your day 😂😂
Your having a glitching issue.
Receiver or voltage problem.
Had the same issue with my baja 5b ss. Mine didn't glitch as bad. Had to replace my 11 year old reciever.
Definitely concerning.
disappointing for you earl but still cool video you rock bro11
In ddm racing they sell a killer bee 🐝 kill switch that works great you can't go wrong 😉 if that helps it will turn your car off hope this helps.
I have 14 5th scale cars so I have them on all of them you will find everything you need in DDM RACING
The killer bee kill switch is the best out in the market
I wonder if the heat from the pipe could’ve melted your receiver wire or caused some damage somewhere. Or could the throttle be getting hung up on some loose wires in there? Just some little thoughts and ideas
It was doing it before the pipe 🤔
Dang, that is fricken confusing. It does seem like a receiver problem, Im actually not a fan of spektrum anymore.
I thought there were built in cutoffs in certain radios.
I think it's that spectrum reciever. Is it AVC? All my research says the spektrum does not do well with the dynamite kill switch. The killer bee kill switch is recommended.
No avc as it’s the original receiver from 8 years ago
Just typical earl sh17. He's a very simple man. Very ,very simple
Maybe it’s time to put the new HW 12S motor in it
😳😱
This car sounds like my old chainsaw
Lol 😂 yep about the same thing
i run the primal rc KS on my 5t and the dynamite KS on my baja the primal cost more but i like it better
Have you checked the throttle linkage to see if It is bent. I kept having the same issues with my Baja until I found that the linkage was bent and it kept running away mate so I changed it and that sorted it out
It’s a new linkage on the motor swap
@@earlmoorhead5555 the guy that built my Baja said that it was made with new parts including the linkage but after checking everything else that might of coursed the run away the last thing I checked which was the linkage ended up the problem as it was bent where the plastic bit slides along the brake part so it kept sticking
Perfect day.
Yes nice day 🔥🔥
30lbs gas powered rc has a runaway and the first thing you do is point it straight at your nice BMW🤔either dumb or very smart. That rc can do some real damage when up to speed with that kind of weight, I've been hit with my dbxle2 while not going very fast and I would have much rather been hit with a 1/10 at full send
Rather damage my own stuff then run off into the road for sure 👍
Failure prone fail-safe failed!
🤔😱😂😂
What, i can't hear you! Damm that is loud!
Dame switch!!
Use Futaba system
Gotta be the receiver…
Yes I think so maybe corrosion inside like the wires 🤔
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Have you thought about a throttle return spring. I run one on all my nitro cars. It's saved me a few times.
The servos been pulling the throttle open but it has two throttle return springs on it now 🤔
@@earlmoorhead5555 oh wow that's a real issue. You may be right they receiver or servo. May be worth replacing both. I look forward to your diagnostic vid. Good luck!
Why would it fail to open throttle 😳
Huh 🤔
@@earlmoorhead5555 you know... "Fail Safe" it's not very safe when failure causes wide open throttle. The vehicle should go to idle at any moment of failure, imagine if your car was drive by wire only and the failure of the TPS caused the car to go into uncontrollable full throttle ✊😲
I only trust traxxas TQI transmitter on my 1/5 scales
What kill switch are you using
Horizon
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So 5t or 5b or dbxl ?
5T is a better price point for me
Is it a kill switch or a fail safe ??
Safty kill switch and fail safe set up on controller
@@earlmoorhead5555 I have several 1/5 scales ! But I don’t run specktrum. I don’t know how you have yours set up . I have not had any run aways with a kill switch yet !! I have with just a fail safe !
@@JOHND_RC 35 years I’ve never had a runaway either and never left a kill switch installed as you can set up the fail safe for range without one so never felt a need for one but figured to try one as everyone says it’s a must have 🤷🏻♂️
@@earlmoorhead5555 yea I’ve had the reciver pac die on wide open throttle and fail safe won’t help that !! Kill switch will !! Sometimes specktrum radios don’t work good with some kill switch models !
I like batteries better.
Lol 😂
Looks like your throttle is getting stuck
Steering fails as well 😳
@@earlmoorhead5555 check your servo because there not that good I went with.a sovox the hold up pretty good
I changed mine in all my cars as well
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