On subs for 12 years and no exit strategy from the Dr. It’s been almost 2 years off subs, 1 year off alcohol. It was very hard but Not being dependent is great. Recovering my authentic self. You got this brother! My biggest regret is time lost on substance. Keep fighting
I been on them also for 12 years. I cant believe i been on them that long. Should i just stop and stop being afraid..i think thats the way i gotta do it
Your nose is definitely running! If u have Covid then you are going to feel bad. Sniffles can be part of withdrawal too though! Keep putting one foot in front of the other as you have been. You will beat this mess and are going to be fine ! Remember the more time passes the easier it gets! Love u friend praying for you
Stay strong brother, I was on the fent for a little over a year and checked myself into a rehab for about a month and took a sub for about 3 weeks. After I got out of rehab I was feeling foggy for about a month or so but I’ve been staying away from all the bad stuff for a little over two years now. It’s tough but like they say, “you gotta want to be sober as bad as you want to breathe” I’ll be following your channel, praying for you my man!
My experience was I think 2mg down to 1/4mg for me…was no different. I think (on day 15) that I’m having to pay the opioid Piper. Regardless of whether I jumped off at 2mg or 1/4mg a day of Subs. That’s me though. Hopefully that’s not the case for anyone reading this. Listen to this guy bc he’s given accurate symptoms. The day to day change is what drives me nuts. I’ll wake one day and like “I made!!! I’m better!!! I feel great!!!! The world smells perfect!!!” Then 24 hours later I’m hating life to the fullest. Then I go through that for two days and I’m back to “I made it”. But those good days are definitely a blessing bc it gives you the break you WILL DESPERATELY be needing. Just DO IT. YES, it’s going to suck like Hoover at 2mg, 1mg, 1/2mg etc. JUST DO IT. I’m on day 16 now I think. Longest I’ve been in over 10 years.
Hang in there buddy I'm trying to taper as well u and kickin addiction are awesome and give alotta ppl hope and awesome advice and I definitely appreciate you both and Nicole as well thank you and hope you feel better soon
Appreciate the facts. Been on 24mg for 7 years now and I’m terrified to detox. Detoxed 160mg of methadone before and then got on subs. Let them go to high, but I’ll get off it. It’s gunna be ugly I know it. But it’s what it is. I agree it doesn’t do shit once it’s been some time on it.
It’s day 30 for me as well. I lost my insurance and when I found out I had 20 strips left 10 days worth that next day went to one strip then started a taper those 20 strips lasted more than a month! With that said I jumped off at 2mg one quarter strip!! I had no idea that coming of subs would have such a long p.a.w.s I started searching online after like 2 to 2.5 weeks wonder if this was normal to feel crappy for so long. Then I seen videos with people having issues and making videos of like day 60 day 80. Thought to myself f@ck me are you kidding had no idea!! Work has been hell no energy my legs feel like lead weights but... but everyday I feel 1 to 2% better each day. I feel like at day 30 I’m at 60 to 65% on the way I’m feeling!! Everyday it gets a little better and I don’t need to use over these issues I’m having cuz I can feel a little better each day. If your struggling hang in there please don’t go back out we all know how that ends a lot of times!! Also if your getting meds from a dr listen to them and work a program of a long taper down off em I’m sure they know best. I just did what I could with what I had.
I'm 6 month's clean.. and on Suboxone.. and already terrified to come off it! You are doing soo great.. and are so close to feeling better. You should be so proud of yourself. So happy I stumbled across your content. Btw- hope you don't have Covid x
Dude I got that shit at my parents house. Had to leave because I knew I couldn’t hide how uncomfortable I was. Made up some bullshit excuse and bounced. I ate 25mg gummy and I’m baked lol.
@@lost4199 dude that’s how I’m amazed you’re able to do the relationship thing. I’m not even in the mood to deal with chicks. And I always feel like I have this dark secret around them. But hey if she is a positive in your life then that is awesome and more power to ya brother.
I feel you! I jumped off at 4mg I’m on day 6 yesterday I thought I was good but today feel rough! From day one after last dose I’ve had all The withdrawal’s! I’m on day 6 and still have mild fever , diarrhea! I really just wish it would hurry up and go away!
Wow. Day 5-6 were my worst. The no sleep sucks. It only makes a person stronger when you defeat any drug. Beautiful ❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰 🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰
2017. Got off subs. Insomnia for first few weeks. 30 days before a full night. Withdrawal is very dark and nasty. Relapsed a year later and presently on subs for the third time. Oh well- better than using...
I think your right about the more sub you take the longer and worse the withdrawals will be! I've tried to kick multiple times, I've never made it more than a week but was taking 8-16mg a day. I've cut that back and down to 4-8mg a day! I'm going to do a slow taper over a long time! Other times I just jumped off with pre much no game plan
7:40 sub definitely can help with many things like withdrawal, depression, anxiety and pain. The biggest problem I've had coming off is the anxiety!!! In between the anxiety And restless leg syndrome well that's why I plan on doing a slow taper because the anxiety is crippling
Well I was on subs for 2 and half years I never took more than 2 mg last 7 months I was in one than intapper down to 0.1 in 4 months now I’m of subs almost 5 months and I’m still not ok in my head my stomach is so sensitive and I do not have will power to do anything
Yes I hate it when it gets dark. I get RLS a lot and it sucks. Those Hyland pills don't do anything for me. It reminds me of my Mom who had dementia and she had what is called Sundowning. When it got dark, she just got out of control. Same with RLS. Dark time = RLS 👹 It's crazy!
I kicked Suboxone cold turkey after 6yrs and im on my 20th day and im still going thru withdrawal symptoms. When does this shit stop. The chronic insomnia is driving me insane. The hot /cold flashes still linger around and i have zero energy i cant do regular day tasks😢
Any thoughts on the suboxone shot? They give you a subdermal shot it lasts 1 month.. I've heard some people get it and don't look back.. RLS sucks dude.. Nothing is worse. Kicking subs Makes kicking old school H look like a picnic.. it's a miracle pill tho.. do you feel better. Being on subs is like having a bag over your head? Any thoughts..
New subscriber. Are you just trying to get off subs or all substances? Are you going for abstinence or recovery? I worry about people on suboxone because eventually aren't they going to stop prescribing it also? Very good idea trying to move away from it. IMO. Hang in there, you have a new friend 💝
They wint stop prescribing it. Thats the thing it's super easy for any addict to get any time for any reason. I'm gonna go for abstinence. I know it's going to be so hard lol. Life is tough
Let me know how you fill if you take them do it dont put yourself through the withdrawal I dont wish that on my worst enemy it sucks remember 54/411 white round pill.
This isn't a very respectful or supportive comment.. he's come so far- he's clearly on a mission (as hard as it is) he's not going to cave in at this point.. so why try to trigger him? Encouragement would have required less words...
On subs for 12 years and no exit strategy from the Dr. It’s been almost 2 years off subs, 1 year off alcohol. It was very hard but Not being dependent is great. Recovering my authentic self. You got this brother! My biggest regret is time lost on substance. Keep fighting
I been on them also for 12 years. I cant believe i been on them that long. Should i just stop and stop being afraid..i think thats the way i gotta do it
Found you through Nicky Ploudre. Thanks for sharing your story. I love the rawness/honesty.
Thank you.
I love Nicole she's a friend
@@lost4199 she is a God send for sure.
Your nose is definitely running! If u have Covid then you are going to feel bad. Sniffles can be part of withdrawal too though!
Keep putting one foot in front of the other as you have been. You will beat this mess and are going to be fine ! Remember the more time passes the easier it gets! Love u friend praying for you
Thanks keep posting. I'm at 1mg now and going lower. And don't have any time prepared of work. Just going to work thru it.
Stay strong brother, I was on the fent for a little over a year and checked myself into a rehab for about a month and took a sub for about 3 weeks. After I got out of rehab I was feeling foggy for about a month or so but I’ve been staying away from all the bad stuff for a little over two years now. It’s tough but like they say, “you gotta want to be sober as bad as you want to breathe” I’ll be following your channel, praying for you my man!
Thank God u are off Fent bro. Fuck that stuff. I'm glad ur on Suboxone now. Be good to yourself.
@@lost4199 I’ve been off the sub for 2 years I was only on the sub for 3 weeks during rehab and tapered off as quick as possible
My experience was I think 2mg down to 1/4mg for me…was no different. I think (on day 15) that I’m having to pay the opioid Piper. Regardless of whether I jumped off at 2mg or 1/4mg a day of Subs. That’s me though. Hopefully that’s not the case for anyone reading this. Listen to this guy bc he’s given accurate symptoms. The day to day change is what drives me nuts. I’ll wake one day and like “I made!!! I’m better!!! I feel great!!!! The world smells perfect!!!” Then 24 hours later I’m hating life to the fullest. Then I go through that for two days and I’m back to “I made it”. But those good days are definitely a blessing bc it gives you the break you WILL DESPERATELY be needing. Just DO IT. YES, it’s going to suck like Hoover at 2mg, 1mg, 1/2mg etc. JUST DO IT. I’m on day 16 now I think. Longest I’ve been in over 10 years.
Hang in there buddy I'm trying to taper as well u and kickin addiction are awesome and give alotta ppl hope and awesome advice and I definitely appreciate you both and Nicole as well thank you and hope you feel better soon
Appreciate the facts. Been on 24mg for 7 years now and I’m terrified to detox. Detoxed 160mg of methadone before and then got on subs. Let them go to high, but I’ll get off it. It’s gunna be ugly I know it. But it’s what it is. I agree it doesn’t do shit once it’s been some time on it.
Lol egg beaters 😃
I was up all night too. It sucked. I fell asleep when it started getting light out.
Much love Matt. I always pray for you too ❤🙏
Thanks Debb. I need the prayers
@@lost4199 Follow your heart ❤ You know what's right.
Michigan hell yea we rock
It’s day 30 for me as well. I lost my insurance and when I found out I had 20 strips left 10 days worth that next day went to one strip then started a taper those 20 strips lasted more than a month! With that said I jumped off at 2mg one quarter strip!! I had no idea that coming of subs would have such a long p.a.w.s I started searching online after like 2 to 2.5 weeks wonder if this was normal to feel crappy for so long. Then I seen videos with people having issues and making videos of like day 60 day 80. Thought to myself f@ck me are you kidding had no idea!! Work has been hell no energy my legs feel like lead weights but... but everyday I feel 1 to 2% better each day. I feel like at day 30 I’m at 60 to 65% on the way I’m feeling!! Everyday it gets a little better and I don’t need to use over these issues I’m having cuz I can feel a little better each day. If your struggling hang in there please don’t go back out we all know how that ends a lot of times!! Also if your getting meds from a dr listen to them and work a program of a long taper down off em I’m sure they know best. I just did what I could with what I had.
Day 12 here , jumped off 8mg , dude that's fucked, how do you sleep? I get 2 hours a day
I'm 6 month's clean.. and on Suboxone.. and already terrified to come off it! You are doing soo great.. and are so close to feeling better. You should be so proud of yourself. So happy I stumbled across your content. Btw- hope you don't have Covid x
After 3 or 4 years on it you won't be scared anymore. Its really just to get your life on track and give you a better grasp on the rope.
Suboxone isnt clean as much as u wanna lie to urself it is, sorry to break it to u
Clean from certain things sure but in general, you are not clean.
Your so brave I couldn't do it still on it
Dude I got that shit at my parents house. Had to leave because I knew I couldn’t hide how uncomfortable I was. Made up some bullshit excuse and bounced. I ate 25mg gummy and I’m baked lol.
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I know it's so hard to be around people like this.
@@lost4199 dude that’s how I’m amazed you’re able to do the relationship thing. I’m not even in the mood to deal with chicks. And I always feel like I have this dark secret around them. But hey if she is a positive in your life then that is awesome and more power to ya brother.
I feel you! I jumped off at 4mg I’m on day 6 yesterday I thought I was good but today feel rough! From day one after last dose I’ve had all
The withdrawal’s! I’m on day 6 and still have mild fever , diarrhea! I really just wish it would hurry up and go away!
Wow. Day 5-6 were my worst. The no sleep sucks. It only makes a person stronger when you defeat any drug. Beautiful ❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰 🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰
2017. Got off subs. Insomnia for first few weeks. 30 days before a full night. Withdrawal is very dark and nasty. Relapsed a year later and presently on subs for the third time. Oh well- better than using...
Well as long as it's not destroying your life then your right it's better then using 😊
Dude its like you are mirroring my exact life. Everything you've been through i am also except the ketamine. Its illegal in West Virginia still
I was just in the same predicament…I’m from mi as well, GR. That shits awful and just goes on for what seems like forever.
I think your right about the more sub you take the longer and worse the withdrawals will be! I've tried to kick multiple times, I've never made it more than a week but was taking 8-16mg a day. I've cut that back and down to 4-8mg a day! I'm going to do a slow taper over a long time! Other times I just jumped off with pre much no game plan
7:40 sub definitely can help with many things like withdrawal, depression, anxiety and pain. The biggest problem I've had coming off is the anxiety!!! In between the anxiety And restless leg syndrome well that's why I plan on doing a slow taper because the anxiety is crippling
Well I was on subs for 2 and half years I never took more than 2 mg last 7 months I was in one than intapper down to 0.1 in 4 months now I’m of subs almost 5 months and I’m still not ok in my head my stomach is so sensitive and I do not have will power to do anything
You look like you feel better brother!
Nighttime restless legs is the worst
Why foes it sneak in at night? It's like a unwanted cool aid man.
@@lost4199 I don't know but it bothered me for a couple months. Absolutely brutal not being able to sleep because of it
Yes I hate it when it gets dark. I get RLS a lot and it sucks. Those Hyland pills don't do anything for me.
It reminds me of my Mom who had dementia and she had what is called Sundowning. When it got dark, she just got out of control. Same with RLS. Dark time = RLS 👹
It's crazy!
@@debwoods5834 you would think they would have found a cure for that by now but from what I have read they really aren't sure what causes it.
@@Last_Chance. lol not that I'd trust their cure, but it would be nice to know 😃
Thanks for sharing👍
I need help. How to make the start? Please help me. Give me some advise
I kicked Suboxone cold turkey after 6yrs and im on my 20th day and im still going thru withdrawal symptoms. When does this shit stop. The chronic insomnia is driving me insane. The hot /cold flashes still linger around and i have zero energy i cant do regular day tasks😢
It's 8 months I'm still not good
Any thoughts on the suboxone shot? They give you a subdermal shot it lasts 1 month.. I've heard some people get it and don't look back.. RLS sucks dude.. Nothing is worse. Kicking subs Makes kicking old school H look like a picnic.. it's a miracle pill tho.. do you feel better. Being on subs is like having a bag over your head? Any thoughts..
I've never taken the shot.
Chemtrails shhhhhhh! Fayetteville NC
people say its the same being on 16m and someone taking 2 mg while on it but why is it so munch harder coming off higher doses than it is lower
Agreed
I don’t know about that lol jumping of 16 is suicide 😅
Day 21 for me, only getting worse.
New subscriber. Are you just trying to get off subs or all substances? Are you going for abstinence or recovery? I worry about people on suboxone because eventually aren't they going to stop prescribing it also? Very good idea trying to move away from it. IMO. Hang in there, you have a new friend 💝
They wint stop prescribing it. Thats the thing it's super easy for any addict to get any time for any reason. I'm gonna go for abstinence. I know it's going to be so hard lol. Life is tough
@@lost4199 That's what we thought about pain pills too. Truth is medicine is always changing. When the profit goes away, so does the meds.
Just hit the subscribe button #200
Boom 💥 thanks Karie. Ur awesome.
Why don't you just take 1mg or something? Like you're far enough down the road that it wouldn't kick your tolerance back up..
Can't do it.
Day 12 jumped off 8 mg , i cried for the first time in 10 years to a hooty and blowfish song wtf ,, my emotions are fucked right now
Nothing helps lol I tried it all I do microdose shrooms but when it comes to sud depression you have to go thru
Ur kicking @ss bro!! Use that Kratom to to most minimal amt when u think u need it.
I took kratom on day 12th low dose for 3 days straight and all withdrawals came back. You cannot take anything that has opioids …
Nights in bed at the worse that's for sure
Let me know how you fill if you take them do it dont put yourself through the withdrawal I dont wish that on my worst enemy it sucks remember 54/411 white round pill.
This isn't a very respectful or supportive comment.. he's come so far- he's clearly on a mission (as hard as it is) he's not going to cave in at this point.. so why try to trigger him? Encouragement would have required less words...
Thanks. Ya I've already suffered enough I can't go back. I have a very supportive Women in my life now