SURPRISING Link with ISLAM & MOORS (Moorish Science Temple)

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  • SURPRISING Link Between ISLAM & the MOORS (Moorish Science Temple) - Part of a presentation given by STREET APOLOGIST host Vocab Malone in London England on June 2024 - 8 min 34 sec
    *The illustration @ 5:14 isn't from the M.S.T.A. proper. It's from a spin off group that was led by Noble Drew Ali's former driver. He claimed to be the reincarnated prophet. That's why it says "Resurrection MSTA inc."
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    NOTES:
    Noble Drew Ali, Born Timothy Drew, founded the Moorish Science Temple.
    "The Prophet" was born in the state of North Carolina in 1886.
    Moors say "The duty of a prophet is to save nations from the wrath of Allah. ... Prophet Noble Drew Ali came to warn and redeem the Moors of America from their sinful ways."
    The Moorish Science Temple of America was founded the Moorish Science Temple of America in 1913 in Newark, New Jersey. Drew Ali passed in 1929.
    The Moorish Movement is still around. There are many small temples all over America. The star and crescent, fezzes, turban, membership card, button, Moorish Flag, and the surnames “El” or “Bey” signify Moorish identity.
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Komentáře • 56

  • @TheOrthodoxMoor
    @TheOrthodoxMoor Před měsícem +5

    FYI The illustration @5:14 isn't from the M.S.T.A. proper...It's from a spin off group that was lead by Noble Drew Ali's driver that claimed to be the reincarnated prophet. Hence it says "Resurrection MSTA inc."

    • @VocabMalone
      @VocabMalone  Před měsícem +4

      copy that - I will pin your comment and put it in the box too

    • @everlastingbreatharian286
      @everlastingbreatharian286 Před měsícem

      ​@@VocabMalonewhat is your religion?

    • @everlastingbreatharian286
      @everlastingbreatharian286 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@VocabMaloneThe Moorish Science Temple of America have different administrations or Grandbodies. This is not the original Grandbody that you teaching about. Moorish American History you need to know everything about before you start teaching who Drew Ali is

  • @leedza
    @leedza Před měsícem +1

    Sounds like the Nation of Islam and 5% Nation.

  • @primeminister66
    @primeminister66 Před měsícem +6

    They’re like a gang in Michigan prisons…Muftis, Beys and EL’s…

    • @VocabMalone
      @VocabMalone  Před měsícem +2

      to this day? tell more!

    • @primeminister66
      @primeminister66 Před měsícem

      @@VocabMalone I’m talking too much lol @VocabMalone but this was very prevalent in the late 80s and early early 90s. Brothers would join for protection if you ask me. Some of the “Moabites/Moes” as we called them moved pretty ILL. They would as they used to say “Put that demonstration down on you” which could mean beat you down or spew that crazy moabite rhetoric

    • @everlastingbreatharian286
      @everlastingbreatharian286 Před měsícem

      He a liar. Find out about The Moorish Science Temple of America from Moorish Americans ​@VocabMalone

    • @primeminister66
      @primeminister66 Před měsícem

      Far from a liar infidel!!! Fake Muslims is what they are!

    • @primeminister66
      @primeminister66 Před měsícem +1

      Yeah tried to take my comment off, but I know. I saw them in action like I said it wasn’t all of them, but it was a lot of them.

  • @Punch240
    @Punch240 Před měsícem +2

    Do some work about the NAR,KKK,Q anon, Talmudists and Kabbalists. The groups you make your bones on all seem to be of a darker complexion a little variety would be nice and interesting

  • @SOX-9
    @SOX-9 Před měsícem +4

    Your work is very useful and beautiful. For one, it makes the patterns of these false prophets easier to see. They have very similar angles, and the cycle just repeats itself. Your point about identity playing a major role in these things is also crucial because, unlike Jesus calling us all to a new identity, these religions tend to fix on reestablishing an old identity.

    • @user-ls7yi9fr9p
      @user-ls7yi9fr9p Před měsícem +1

      I hope you ain’t saying noble drew is a false prophet. He isn’t. We’re are a religious corporation that is in fact. Legal.

    • @SOX-9
      @SOX-9 Před měsícem

      @user-ls7yi9fr9p do you think Joseph Smith was a true prophet?

    • @user-ls7yi9fr9p
      @user-ls7yi9fr9p Před měsícem

      @@SOX-9 I have nothing to say about Christianity. I use to be one when I was young and found myself questioning. Tho Joesph smith has nothing to do with me. Noble drew focus on African American heritage. For there it has been said that man must proclaim a free national name where the government would recognize them from where they reside from within America.

    • @SOX-9
      @SOX-9 Před měsícem +1

      @user-ls7yi9fr9p If you do not know whether Joseph Smith was a prophet, then how do you know who else is a prophet? If you cannot apply some tests to gain the knowledge, then why should I take your opinion seriously in this matter? So you had questions, and you couldn't build a system to answer the important question of how do I know whom to trust? Wow! I must conclude that you left the Church for the wrong reason because any reasonable person can see that the first question to ask before leaving any religion is why do I think the founder of this religion was a fraud? You want a belief system that props up your ego without any substance. That, my fellow black human, is wanting a lie. I am African, from Nigeria and I can tell you that even based on just facts and my travels around the West Africa, Christianity has done more for Africans than any other belief systems. Even on the issue of identity, this nonsense America centric belief has not done any comparable good for you in America or Africans in Africa.

    • @user-ls7yi9fr9p
      @user-ls7yi9fr9p Před měsícem

      @@SOX-9 well it’s a personal relationship with God of whatever name you may gave it to. I say Allah. And the religion I follow is islamism. And no it isn’t the same as Islam. Islamism is an old time religion. Its teachings are distinct from other teachings within islamism because of different creeds. Its teachings are also distinct from public religious teachings. But isn’t far different because its the Old Testament but focus on African American heritage brought by noble drew Ali because he is a prophet to us by Father Allah. Noble drew is the founder of moorish science temple of America. Just like you have founders of United States of America. With a religion.

  • @user-gm2jy5on2l
    @user-gm2jy5on2l Před měsícem +4

    But when it comes to the other Camps that are actually not accused of anything crazy that’s when you choose to put out footage, be fair if you’re going to be fair

  • @Sneakernug
    @Sneakernug Před 23 dny

    Where is this brother getting he's information?

  • @Brother_Dre1900
    @Brother_Dre1900 Před měsícem +1

    You mistakenly said that the Nation of Islam started in the 50s. I believe you said that.
    Well, the NOI (Nation of Islam) was founded in the early 30s.

    • @VocabMalone
      @VocabMalone  Před měsícem

      I didn’t say that. I have whole presentations on the NOI origin.
      I was saying the NOI has been the largest “Islamic” org in the US since the 50s, from a numerical perspective (which is true)

  • @MWTVnetwork
    @MWTVnetwork Před měsícem +1

    Your scholarship on this matter is horrible! You are winging it! Maybe you should get a scholar to speak to the history of the MST of A as well as the religious precepts! I’m available anytime to dialogue!

    • @VocabMalone
      @VocabMalone  Před 23 dny

      @@MWTVnetwork what’s an example of an error I made ?

    • @MWTVnetwork
      @MWTVnetwork Před 23 dny

      @@VocabMalone would you like to dialog live on the points? We will discuss that live

  • @user-gm2jy5on2l
    @user-gm2jy5on2l Před měsícem +3

    I see you have nothing to say about Pastor Dowell and Pastor Muir at Straitway abusing 14 year old son

    • @VocabMalone
      @VocabMalone  Před měsícem +2

      I am waiting for more info to come out. I have a whole play list on them

  • @ME-vl3gp
    @ME-vl3gp Před měsícem +2

    And that is not the temples Artwork.
    You know it really funny How when Prophet Mohammad was here he wasnt accepted in his own country it was the Moors or Mohammadens who was the first to fight alongside of our Prophet Mohammed at that time not the people who proffess Islam as a religion today. Technically we help give you islam as the religion and the Moors have history to prove that. The only thing this video has showed is that the Europeans arent the only ones afraid to see us wake up.
    Do a video on why most Muslims said nothing or did nothing during our time of slavery and now you want to check us to see if we are real Muslims you arent qualified. And we know Mohammed is the seal of the prophets to so let that sink in. Mohammed doesnt belong to no one except ALLAH who is infinite and before you knew him as Mohammed he was Jesus 1st. We only know theese things because he came back like he said he would or like the Holy Koran Of Mecca says ALLAH will send a Prophet to every nation. You better Put some respect on Prophet Noble Drew Ali and his work because you have already offended Prophet Mohammed and dont even know it.

  • @ME-vl3gp
    @ME-vl3gp Před měsícem +1

    All you had to do was look at Page 3 and you would have seen were the work comes from. But your coming off as hater anyway.

    • @VocabMalone
      @VocabMalone  Před měsícem

      What do you mean exactly ?

    • @ME-vl3gp
      @ME-vl3gp Před měsícem

      @@VocabMalone Exactly what I said Page 3 gives a preface or introduction like any other book or pamphlet. You tried to ridicule our Prophet by showing the cover but then saying it plagerized from the aquarium gospel which levi didn't write.
      Levi tried to claim he got the lessons off his meditation to the akashic records but you believed that tho 🤣 vs Prophet Noble Drew Ali clearly saying were the lessons came from how could you miss that learn to love instead of hate peace

    • @VocabMalone
      @VocabMalone  Před měsícem

      @@ME-vl3gp are you saying you know for fact that Drew Ali never plagiarized? he claims in the text of the Circle Seven Holy Koran that he got secret teachings from the Moslems of Egypt, India and Palestine.
      But it appears to be The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ, by Levi H. Dowling, [1920.

    • @ME-vl3gp
      @ME-vl3gp Před měsícem

      ​@@VocabMalone The Prophet said that the lessons comes from the Moslems of India , Egypt and Palestine.
      So what does Levi claim do you know?
      Did Levi or his daughter write the Aquarian gospel?
      Do you believe that the European man had such god like ability that he meditated until he reached the akashic records which is a arcane spiritual library not physical by the way.
      Levi claimed to write down the lessons from here because for some reason he couldn't find it in himself to give the Moslems credit especially the Buddhist Monks in Tibet.
      Why couldn't levi tell the truth that he got his manuscripts there just like in the movie played by brad Pitt when he broke his legs and the Buddhist Monks took him in and let him read some.
      Further more why did Levi and others lie just like other Europeans we know about Jesus physical description??????? Clear Example
      In the chapter " After the feast - the homeward journey- The missing Jesus - The search for him -his parents find him in the temple -he goes with them to Nazareth - Symbolic meaning of carpenters tools. Verse 5
      Why is it that the Aquarian gospel was fixed to say "have you seen Jesus a little boy about 12 years old with blonde hair and blue eyes"
      Go check it out right now.

    • @ME-vl3gp
      @ME-vl3gp Před měsícem

      @@VocabMalone ​@VocabMalone The Prophet said that the lessons comes from the Moslems of India , Egypt and Palestine.
      So what does Levi claim do you know?
      Did Levi or his daughter write the Aquarian gospel?
      Do you believe that the European man had such god like ability that he meditated until he reached the akashic records which is a arcane spiritual library not physical by the way.
      Levi claimed to write down the lessons from here because for some reason he couldn't find it in himself to give the Moslems credit especially the Buddhist Monks in Tibet.
      Why couldn't levi tell the truth that he got his manuscripts there just like in the movie played by brad Pitt when he broke his legs and the Buddhist Monks took him in and let him read some.
      Further more why did Levi and others lie just like other Europeans we know about Jesus physical description??????? Clear Example
      In the chapter " After the feast - the homeward journey- The missing Jesus - The search for him -his parents find him in the temple -he goes with them to Nazareth - Symbolic meaning of carpenters tools. Verse 5
      Why is it that the Aquarian gospel was fixed to say "have you seen Jesus a little boy about 12 years old with blonde hair and blue eyes"
      Go check it out right now