JOSH HOMME FILES SUIT AGAINST KYUSS LIVES!
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- čas přidán 9. 03. 2012
- Them Crooked Vultures and Queens Of The Stone Age frontman Josh Homme has filed a lawsuit with a former bandmate against members of his old band Kyuss, and he explains why and we have all the details!
One of my favourite bands growing up, a damn shame it came to this...
It's a little thing called not ruinning a Legacy. Nick has left... So it's just the two original dude. Yeh, Josh has a successful band, but considering Kyuss wants to make a new album under the name just Kyuss. It's stupid. I don't want a new album by "Kyuss" If Josh isn't involved.
i saw kyuss lives live at graspop and they were so fucking good
Nick mentioned in another interview(which is on youtube) that Kyuss Lives! got a new management team whilst he had to deal with his "personal problems". This new management group were the same guys who dropped Nick Oliveri's band Mondo Generator and he was a bit pissed off at the idea of them managing the band, which is fair enough! I'm pretty sure that the problem was caused by the new management team because Brant and John Garcia don't seem to be the dickhead type guys who'd get legal on this.
He was a key player in what created the band and he has rights under the name Kyuss - a band which no longer eixsts. They are using a bootleg version of the name in order to sell merch (while still playing older material at the same time, created under the name Kyuss, mind you) and not give any money to scott/josh for any sales. They need to use a different name and not ride the coat tails of the Kyuss past or agree to fork over a percentage of sales to the people who made that band what it is.
josh is a douche bag arrogant greedy , he was brought into the band he did not start it. he did contribute no question but making it out that it is his thing is just a sticky load of shit .
Saw Kyuss Lives a couple of months back.
With all due respect, Kyuss, playing Kyuss songs without Josh, is just not Kyuss.
I doubt this 'reunion' is gonna stick for much longer.
I cant get John...He's an amazing singer, has a firm fanbase...Why dosnt he carry on with one of his other projects?
kyuss witout brant bjork is not kiuss too
@@macauley70 kyuss’s last release was perfect and wasn’t with him
Funny about all the Homme fans here. C'mon guys, Kyuss was all about the lonely trippy landscapes of the deserts, and was the result of 4 men working, not just Homme, even though we wrote much of the music. Not letting the guys do new Kyuss stuff confirms my fear of Homme loving the money more than the music. EVERYBODY knows he will not be a part of new Kyuss so a future failure wouldn't touch the legend he helped to create Besides he's into new poppy stuff, he doesnt have the Kyuss spirit anymo
really its pronounced homy??
always thought it was hom
It's indeed pronounced like Hommie
@@joristolhuijs3703 sick buzz
where can you find those documents?
So many people are so quick to judge Josh's decision even though they have no real clue as to where Josh's thought process is coming from. He was in the band, he was one of the biggest creative forces within the band in which he wrote a lot of the songs and now he is no longer in the band and they are trying to use the same name without his consent. Josh definitely is in the right with the suit against his former band. If I was in that situation I wouldn't want my former band to use the same name if I wasn't in the band anymore especially if I was one of the main creative forces who wrote a lot of the songs and defined the bands sound
If what your saying is right then it's not about the music it's about 1 guy holding up a career of his old buddies... fuck Josh Kyuss Lives could have been great , tour with Queens etc. I've meet him Josh is fucking asshole these days.
Its called a band not three guys and another more creative guy. They all contributed time and effort into that band to create the amazing music that is Kyuss. Josh was wrong to sue his former brothers in music.
They're going to ruin it. That's the thing.
They're not in the same head space and era.
That's why you have to leave it alone.
If they're that good of musicians, they can make music under a different name. It shouldn't be a problem. They just don't want to start from scratch, because it's way too hard nowadays.
Its all really sad. Kyuss got to be a chance to be like the Doors! Hard pill to swallow. I'm here for Kyuss for life.
Nahh...fuck that. Im 100% in Joshes court on this one. They legally attempted to undermine his rights to a band he was in at the age of 14. These guys need to put the bloody band to rest and move on!!!
They wanted to make fast money with the unexpected legacy that started after Kyuss split up and the fact that no one of them had any financial or critical acclaimed success after Kyuss. Let's be honest most of their other musical work is garbage besides some decent Brant Bjork records. Everything John Garcia was into was either mediocre uninspired Hard rock, tiring Kyuss rip offs or garbage!
Fuck both of your opinions . Kyuss was music not 1 person .. Your influenced by those around you . Josh could have let them have a career but he's a prick I've meet him many times a fucking DBag cali fuck!
Garcia's diplomatic passive aggression, and complete dodging of the issue in question (going behind backs to steal the name) is pretty ugly and obvious too.
i think they picked the name because it would mean that people are automatically going to attend the shows. if nick and jerry and the others started it under a new band name they would have to build a fanbase from the ground up. kyuss already has a dedicated fanbase and considering that their fanbase has only grown since it ended, they are almost guaranteed to make money and sell out shows
if jerry garcia started a new band people would just view it as "that washed up guy from kyuss". sad true
If Jerry Garcia started a new band and wrote "feat. Jerry Garcia" his shows would sell like crazy because ppl would think it's the one from Grateful Dead.
First off, no he's not rich. He's known as a "well known" musician, but he's not rich. Famous among those who know him, maybe.
I don't see creativity as a sole commodity, but that doesn't mean "take my share, I'm above it."
I don't know if you are familiar with the nature of Josh AND Scott's lawsuit, but Brant and John applied for a new copyright on the name Kyuss, thus cutting off all connections between Josh, Scott, and Fredo, and using Kyuss' back catalogue for their own monetary use. Wrong.
I believe it's Gardenia my friend!
The main thing about The Pixies reunion was that nothing was hidden. Frank Black openly said, the first time around was for the art, this time around its for the money. Pixies made hardly any revenue the first time round, Kyuss probably made even less. At least this keeps good musicians in their craft.
I'd like to see Kyuss progress into a different band and play a few old Kyuss tracks live to show where they came from. Times change but you got start somewhere and this is probably the easiest.
Scott Reeder is awesome. I saw kyuss from early on before he was in the band. But I have to say the shows with him were better.
Glad they reformed. It was a fun show bit five songs into it I was noticing the new guitarist was lowering the bar pretty low... Tarnishing the name Kyuss.
Well, Josh is only counter-suing them because they're trying to take his share of the name away completely. Up until now, he's been very supportive of them just bringing Kyuss classics to the people, but he doesn't want them making a new record with the old name, because it could only be an insult to what made Kyuss special.
Gardenia. Track 1 off Welcome To Sky Valley. Great track.
written by brant.. not josh.
a simple copyright case. if you're going to use the name, first secure the rights in court. not the other way around.
I know right. At least it's settled now. I just hope the Kyuss/Vista Chino can keep playin'. They don't have all the luxuries that Josh has now.
we all need them. And no one likes to get robbed.
But smart money says Brant and Nick are waiting in line behind Ben Shepherd at Del Taco.
well I guess the problem wasn't really that they wanted to use the original name, but the underhanded shit, that went behing Josh's back. (or at least it seemed like that to him.)
scott reader was almost in tool instead of justin chancellor.
If he was maybe they'd have a new fucking album out by now. Cocksuckers it's been over ten years now!!
Kyuss Lives! changes name to Vista Chino.
this is like Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic wanting to release a album as nirvana. its just using a name to generate success based on previous material.
at least they aren't all blasting each other in interviews and shit. perhaps it's the litigation talking, but they all seem to be fairly respectful in explaining the situation.
woah he is not he just moved on and did not want some kind of revival band cashing in!
first after reading you comment, I realize that there is no connection between the two things. As you said... wrong to present it in this context.
I wish Garcia would get so pissed off and reunite with Unida too.
That's how it's actually pronounced.
They have come up with something else. Tons of something else's. Che, Hermano, Brant Bjork & the Bros/Operators, Unida, Yellow #5, Slo Burn, Mondo Generator...
Kyuss Lives is about a paycheck. These guys are working men. They have mortgages. We should all be as lucky to reap the financial success that Homme has achieved. And no matter what Josh says, it's cool to get to see 75% of the original line up play songs that I missed because I was in high school in Texas during their heyday.
SONG?
Extremely late reply but, the song is gardenia.
I think without Josh Kyuss shouldn't be allowed to continue. These guys are talented, they could have come up with something else.
Kyuss songwriting credits:
Josh: 39
Brant:11
John:12
Scott:7
Nick:3
Alfredo:2
This includes co-written songs and lyrics and John even got his BS lyrics credits for "Yeah" at the end of Blues and songs without fucking lyrics. I used all the studio albums, the split EP and the B sides from Muchos Gracias.
Josh clearly was the driving force of this band and on top of that tone, jury says Josh was Kyuss. Sorry. Brant should've gotten over Whitewater.
Fair enough. Though I don't know how "poor" those guys are, there's really no telling especially nowadays where the money is and who it goes to. I know Interscope got most of Queens cut.
I read that between 97 and 2010 Ben Shepherd, the bass player of Soundgarden had to sell all his basses and was couch surfing and living off fast food. And Soundgarden was one of the most popular bands of the 90s.
I still stand by them calling it something other than Kyuss. They ripped off Scott and Fredo too.
Those figures aren't the most accurate to go by. I don't know Josh personally, but I know I guy who the internet says is worth $8 million and is actually not worth anything close to that. Most of those figures are accumulated net worth, not money in the bank.
I'm not saying Josh is poor, either, he certainly has the most money out of anyone that was/ is in Kyuss, but you'd be surprised at how little even $7 million as you say is in California with their property values/ taxes.
Maybe they always been metallica?
It's pretty obvious from the amount of defense shown on this thread for Homme that Josh gets plenty of (deserved) credit for building Kyuss' fan base.
It would mean that josh and scott don't get any royalties from t-shirt sales ect. I do agree Josh is being butthurt about it but Scott Reeder isn't exactly a multi platinum selling rockstar
Yeah. Josh was cool with the guys making music as long as it wasn't under the Kyuss name, because as frankly the biggest influence on that music, and a proud part of his history, he wanted to be known for what it was, not what it turned into 15 years later. That's why the band broke itself up before things got personal and the music became affected. Kyuss never made a bad song, and Josh wants to keep it that way.
Ex Kyus'sees Hutch and Josh plus QOTSA:
watch?v=ROCDGwKAXtc
Big Josh....He goes through soo many band members! after Nick got arsed from QOTSA they were less exciting to my ears, each member had something to give and different tastes were tried....guess they were all too creative to be in one room together, and if thats what drove them apart ...why get together again....for old timesake? and for what benefit to themselves? not the diehard fans...... John would love Josh to reconcile with Nick, and I think Scott has always been sided with Josh?
So, do I pay the millionaire or the multi-millionaire the next time I want to listen to guhfukmenutsonfire tracks? my ears are thirsty.
name of the song in the background?
Gardenia
Seven years later🤣
@@lurezpe8655 I don't think he saw it. I just hope he found it.
@CasimirFolskovic Reeder is a BEAST!
Needless mess...
a sell out for being successful and leaving a squad of hapless musicians in the dust?
sorry, i dont see it at all. if its just about musicians and talent, then a band name is irrelevant. a nostalgic name on a reborn band that had a cult following, has but one goal.
its not kyuss with out josh and i would have preferred to see scott reeder then a wife beater on bass and it would have been nice for john to have gotten the city right.it was milwaukee not madison
John struggles. I'm friends with Arthur Seay & Mike Cancino from Unida (low level name-dropping!). John works a day job as a vet's assistant. His employer is cool though and allows time off to tour.
I can't speak to the financial states of Brant & Nick though. For all I know, Brant won the lottery while Nick inherited a vast fortune, and they're just trying to rip off Josh, Scott & Fredo because they're tired of tying women to train tracks and then MUAH-HA-HA-ing as they twirl their mustaches.
well before you rush out and get too enraged, I suggest you try following the money. Yep. That would probably give you all the answers you pretend you dont have...
@melbatunes That irrelevant, he's still second in line...
Whoa, easy friend! hahaha. No need to get worked up, I don't know, you might be right, I'm just saying some of those sites aren't exactly trustworthy.
By my and I'm sure your standards he has plenty of money, but let's put that figure next to his openly LOADED friend Dave Grohl who's estimated worth is $200 million. Everybody knows he's rich. Nirvana money.
I guess I would say Josh is very comfortable, he could still blow through it though. I'd say rich is when it'd be unfathomable to run out.
It sux that it just can't be Kyuss again for just one last show!!!!
Hell yes I'd sue if a bunch of people I used to know tried to steal the music I wrote behind my back. That's just gutless. It's sad all these old Kyuss guys fighting over a band that's been dead for years, while Homme continues making excellent music. Ridiculous, considering Homme even gave them his blessing before they started this shit
Wanna talk about sellouts? How about a band that was ended, and half the members, instead of moving on with their lives to do something new and creative, desperately clung to their first success, not even having the guts to try and make it again from scratch, with a new name.
I see shadows and undefined stupidness of selfishness and powermadness.
Brant looks pissed and rightfully so.
Josh is rich. Not crazy rich but about 5-10 mill in the bank rich
Kyuss Lives at Pinkpop proved that Garcia & Bjork are the heart & soul of Kyuss.
They killed that show and Bruno nailed the guitar licks.
Josh should have just let them do it and leave it alone, while he chooses to do his QOTSA or Crooked Vultures.
The fans are the real losers.
Look at thst crowd at Pinkpop.
They loved it !!!
Homme was not Kyuss! Kyuss was few closed friends all togheter that created the desert sound, after this the stoner has been inflated by lot of shit. I was there when i met them at the sky valley tour & at the time with Josh & Scott always at the last moment during their shows before they split. I don't think John tried to rip off the name of Kyuss. I think he needed to put himself onto music business again, i think john deserve another chance to play music, for his family for his son etc.
Fuck yeah gardenia!
I dont see the big deal. make a new band for fucks sake if your music is good people will listen to it. you shouldnt need a name for people to find you good.
Mmh, Would work the other way aroung. Let 4/5 of Kyuss stay kyuss if the former gitarisst found better. If that doesn't continue band culture, bad luck. But else enrichment for us, the consumers
Yeah josh is amazing
Pathetically sad..... Wtf...
Weed tattoo
I feel you on that but I think it has to be more than just a money thing.
lol i just wanna point out the irony that you yourself are getting worked up. it is our problem as die-hard kyuss fans and i want to know what will happen to my favourite band.
on a different note, i saw these guys at download and they where on great form... however i can see josh's problem with them recording a new album. but then again, there 'kyuss lives' now, don't want to hear a new album then don't listen to it! simple!
Dude, you need to relax. Your opinion VS. His. Talk about getting "worked up"!! if you don't like the other comments so much, don't read them. That sounds like an awesome solution to your problems bro.
@MrPokesmot666 bullshit oliveri isnt close to what reeder can do
Josh I love ya dude but let it go!!! At the end of the day kyuss are a cult band that lots of people have never heard of.... So kyuss lives cud contrabute to future kyuss sales...dumb move from my musical hero
t lea
*reeder
I don't think Josh would ever reconcile with Nick in a meaningful way.
Lol you can't use a computer if you're misinformed? Wow, the Internet better work on that, and screen everyone for facts.
I look at it in a market point of view. all the kyuss back catalog cd sell brand new from amazon at about 10-12 bucks each. On the other hand, Brant Bjork's 2004 saved by magic(2cd) goes for about 160 dollars if you can find any one willing to part with theirs.so josh enjoy your time waiting on Madonnas phone call, I'm sure it is worth something at the golden pawn
I agree, and honestly I really don't like Bruno as their guitarist. I saw them live and his performance was pretty mediocre... he lacks the groove and feeling that made Kyuss so cool
Glad it is both Josh and Scott... kind of lends it more weight for me
kyuss lives is a stupid idea. if garcia and the other guys want to make a new band and release an album they should go for it, just dont use the old name at all. start fresh. its almost as bad as chinese democracy being put out as a "guns n roses" album. its not guns n roses, its a fat, weird version of axl playing shit music, being the only one left in the band. do you really want that mr. garcia? to be compared to axl rose? i think not.
Hom-me
If you don't WANT to be a part of that band anymore, you shouldn't be pissed about it. Homme has told the public on every occasion, that he does not want to be involved with Kyuss anymore, so why bother now?
I've read an interview in which Josh said his last name rhymes with "mommy," so, yes.
My theory is this though. Josh is a total troll (not an insult). Even musically. Like how all of his songs end in a bizarre way so that you're not really sure when they're actually ending. So I think every few years he disseminates a new pronunciation of his name because he thinks it's funny that no one knows how to pronounce it. It's Kaufmanesque.
You're wrong about Homme, assuming of course you don't think being worth seven million dollars is rich. And if you don't, can I borrow some money?
(Just type "josh homme wealth" into Google, and the first suggested link will take you to a website called "Celebrity Networth" which cites his personal wealth at 7 mil. Waketheworld90's guess wasn't far off.)
they will ruin kyuss,
hommes history will become a joke.
dont get me wrong i love both. but its the truth.
Is better a Revival of kyuss played by John garcia & Brant Bjork? or another cover band? Or maybe better the last 2 records of qotsa that really sucks? C'mon guys i respect every point of view but new songs of qotsa are not good songs.
Reeder should have no say! He was sloppy seconds to begin with!
Josh Hommi.... *facepalm*
Thats how its said...
Fucking bullshit. Josh has his shit, he's no longer part of Kyuss. He has QOTSA, these guys should be allowed to have ownership of Kyuss. I like Josh but, c'mon. Get over it man!
fucking gay, let's make some music please
'Josh Hommie'
'KieYuss'
stop.
Every time I have seen him introduce himself, he called himself "Hommie". And Josh himself pronounces Kyuss as KieYuss, so, yeah, your argument is invalid.
Uh, that's how both are pronounced. I know you think you're super cool and all, but you clearly don't know shit.
The bottom line is Homme is a raging success compared to the rest of the band. If the only way they can make a decent buck is by going out and playing his stuff which he's basically said he's done with who cares. Let them play under the name Kyuss. They jacked the name from Dungeons and dragons anyway. Change the name to Spawn of Kyuss. And let the guys make some money.
Of course it would be bad. Accept the ideas of impermanence. We still have all the old Zeppelin records to listen to, but John Bonham is dead. Led Zeppelin could only ever hope to be 75% of what they used to be, and 75% would still be badass, but it would only be an insult to the real Led Zeppelin. Just like Brian May is still harming the memory of Queen (With gusto) by trying to replace someone as incredible, and unique, as Freddie Mercury.
Homme was Kyuss. If they want to continue working together, that's fine, they're just going to have to change their name.
Who cares about Homme? He wants to write pop songs with QOTSA....
The other guys got the right attitude and can give to the name Kyuss new life.
Plus the new guitar player and the new bass player are great. So Josh stay in your pop garden and let the true Kyuss play their game in their Stoner desert.
Josh is wrong
Whites vs Browns
Josh is scared of nick, c'mon who wouldn't be, he's the type of guy you upset 1 minute, then he's wearing your sisters head for kicks, there's something lacking in the guys head, maybe just wired up a little different. but I prefer the music that was made when Nick was part of the band, all this new stuff is abstract, like a B movie in my opinion.
I look forward to a day when, for once more I can put the CD on "infinite repeat" like i did when Songs for the Deaf was playing
sorry but josh is a ROCK STAR... he's their yoko
Nobody is trying to "steal" Kyuss, these guys are just looking to jam together and make a few bucks on tour. Drugs and ego screwed Josh a long time ago, now he's just trying to step on neck the of John and Brant and hurt the Kyuss fans who want to go out and see them. So stupid.
I can see this....the new guitarist SUCKS live...i mean SUCKS....
I say quit all this Babalonic bullshit and reunite! Plat that legendary shit and write new songs please!!!!!!!!!!!