Tatarstan Independence - the 5 minute guide
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- Could an independent Tatarstan survive inside Russia? Looking at a map, it might seem unlikely. But Tatarstan made a serious bid for independence in the 1990s, and may get another chance soon. If it does, it will have several advantages.
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Music: V. V. Campos / A Burning Flame - courtesy of Epidemic Sound
Chapters
Can Tatarstan be independent? 00:00
Tatarstan's push for independence in the 1990s 00:16
Putin ends Tatarstan autonomy 01:57
Tatarstan government in exile 02:54
Tatarstan's economy and oil industry 03:32
Free Idel-Ural 03:53
Conclusion 04:37
#tatarstan #russia
LINKS FOR FURTHER READING:
Tatar Government in Exile: tatar-toz.blogspot.com/
Free Idel-Ural idel-ural.org/en/
SOME SOURCES USED TO MAKE THIS VIDEO
1990 Tatarstan ASSR declaration of sovereignty: web.archive.org/web/20000119044059/www.tatar.ru/english/00002028.html
Tatarstan announces entry to the CIS: web.archive.org/web/19991104033022/www.kcn.ru/tat_ru/politics/pan_for/wb6.htm
Tatarstan’s “currency:” fox-notes.ru/img_rus/rf_reg_tatarstan.htm
Tatarstan’s passport inserts: www.idelreal.org/a/tatarstan-pasport/28927196.html
Ukrainian bill to recognize Tatarstan: Recognition of Tatarstan bill: delo.ua/ru/politics/slugi-naroda-predlagayut-rade-priznat-nezavisimost-tatarstana-406630/
Oil reserves in Tatarstan: theenergyyear.com/articles/tatarstan-russias-powerful-oil-base/
Random guy in Germany spontanously cheers for Tatarstan's independence!
My homeland!❤ I am proud that I am Tatar, I know how my ancestors fought for the independence of Tatarstan! All my relatives are Tatars, from generation to generation. We keep our traditions and appreciate them! My dream is for Tatarstan to become a country !
It is a country, but it should be independent.
Татарстан бәйсез булсын! ❤️🇰🇿
@@CenturionKZ Рәхмәт! Татарстан Казахстан кебек бәйсез булырга тиеш !
Thanks, that my dream too🔥
мин дә татар һәм үз ватаным белән горурланам һәм Ватаным тарихын Татарстанга данын беләм!
@rakhmetgirl Hello, I am from Bulgaria, what do you know/think about us?
Thanks for making this. I feel strongly about this topic as I am partly of the Tatar descent.
Азат Татарстан яшасен! Татар халкына бэйсезлек!
I'm glad you liked it - thanks for letting me know! Whatever happens in the coming years I hope the people of Tatarstan have the chance to choose their own future.
Thank you from the Tatars!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
My homeland. Thank ❤
My pleasure! I think the world should know a lot more about Tatarstan and the other republics near it like Bashkortostan.
Love to see a new vid Fredo! I hardly knew about this place
Thanks dude! It's a place we should all know more about!
Hello from the Republic of Bashkortostan. Please made video about Bashkortostan.
Bashkortostan and Tatarstan will be independent.
I've made one already, but I'll be making one in this style soon! 🙂
Wow, Mr Fredo! Thank you and räxmät to you from a Tatar for this beautiful summary and interesting question!
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it
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Thanks for the video about Tatarstan ❤️
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Actually Orenburg and Ulyanovsk oblasts is native tatar land and populated with lots of tatars, so independent Tatarstan could potentially retake historical homeland
Interesting! Of course, having arguments about where the border will be will slow down the process of gaining independence I suspect. One reason that things went relatively quickly with the collapse of the Soviet Union is the borders between the republics were workable as international borders. The borders of republics inside Russia, though, are not conveniently drawn (on purpose I suspect).
@@FredoRockwell In fact all borders were designed and implemented by Stalin (based also on hints from Lenin) as Stalin was a narkom (minister) of nationalities so knowing very well how to draw the lines "correctly" to resolve so called "Tatar point/subject/issue" . Just look at how the border was made between Tatarstan and Bashkortostan and you will see artificial nature of that, main purpose was to cut any possible communication between Tatarstan and Kazakhstan so Stalin gave twice more territory to Bashkortostan including west part which is populated by tatars mainly, bashkorts live mainly on eastern part close to Chelyabinsk. So they cut Tatarstan being linked and communicated anyhow with external sovereign countries
By designing the territory in such way, the soviet ruler reached the purpose of setting by the ears and breaking of relationship between brothers tatars and bashkorts as the territorial question was constantly causing quarrels. It is quite interesting, that similar approach was used later by breaking brotherhood between russians and ukranians
@@hakanmuslim do I understand right, that only problem of Tatarstan is that Bashkortostan got a part of its own lands?
Thank you for distributing
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Thanks a lot Fredo for drawing attention to tatars and Tatarstan, will share to my relatives tatars and friends. In fact, famous "Tatar subject/issue" is core to understand the history and issues of federalism in Russia as tatars are almost 500 years already under Russia being the first who was occupied in 1552, but tatars are survived despite loosing its sovereignty and many years of persecution and repression, survived as a Muslims despite permanent compulsion of accepting Christianity. Thank you for this video
Thanks for watching and commenting! Trying to undermine and eliminate local cultures is a terrible thing, and I wish more people understood that this has been Russian policy throughout its empire for centuries. Whatever happens in the coming years, I hope that the Tatar people are able to hang on to their culture, language and religion. I hope your friends and relatives like the video! I think we might have Tatar subtitles soon!
@@FredoRockwell thank you so much! Räxmät!
Too much
Ten rząd na uchodżtwie , wpisuje się w politykę USA do rozpadu ROSJI.
Maybe they could tighten their sovereignity if it is loose.
Tatarstan is basically that one friend who wants to get invited but constantly left on read
But fr nice video, the fact they don't teach this stuff in school is sad
I agree - Tatarstan is pretty much ignored by too much of the world (especially Europe, which has relied on Tatar gas and oil for decades).
My homeland.. Thanks much, Fredo!
🤝
My pleasure!
I hope our tatar brothers will be free one day.
Greetings from turkey and Tengri bless our brothers in need.
Teşekkürler kardeşim
I am glad to see you here brother from Turkey greetings from Tatarstan city of Kazan!
@@nels0nxd1 I hope you stay safe during these conflicts.
I've already seen videos of tatars & tıvans who were dragged into the war.
Be safe out there thats all I ask.
And maybe one day we'll live long enough to see you be free.
@@zemom.a.8171 thank you brother I hope we will meet or correspond with you
@@zemom.a.8171 Maybe you have a Discord?
Thank you, Fredo
Glad you liked it!
Great video, as always. It will be really interesting to watch these territories in the period ahead. You’ve been speaking to all sorts of interesting people. Where do you see things going? Is there any possibility that areas will have a real go at trying to break away?
Thanks, and I agree this is a particularly interesting time to be watching events in Russia's regions. I think it would be extremely difficult for any of Russia's republics to break away for the time being, but I think it's getting easier to imagine scenarios where Russia's politics could start to get very unstable very quickly. Even then, regions breaking away is only one outcome among many. When I was exploring Washington DC as a kid, though, I remember coming across the Latvian government in exile embassy, which was still there from the 1920s, waiting for Latvia to be free again. It seemed like a totally lost cause at the time, until one day it suddenly wasn't.
As a Russian from Siberia I expect civil war after Moskow defeat in Ukraine, and as you perfectly aware borders become completely reshape after wars. All Siberian intellectuals want Siberia as independent state. It is international trend anyway - age of centralised empires is over, now it is time for unions of compact countries.
Sorry for my bad English.
Thank you for your comment! I've already done some work on a possible Siberian independence video. I'll try to finish it!
Great Tatarstan🟢🤍🔴
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Великий Народ Татарстана
BASHKORTOSTAN AND TATARSTAN INDEPENDENCE FOREVER!
Please make video about Bashkortostan!
I've made one already, a longer one with an interview with Ruslan Gabbasov. But I'm hoping to make another video in this style about Bashkortostan soon!
Amin!!!
Very good video, i wish independence to my Tatar brothers!
Thank you!
Thanks bro. Are you Chechen?
@@KazanMalay-nx6fr Yes i am.
@@user-le8px9fu4h Ассаламу уалейкум от татарина брат, свободу Ичкерии
@@KazanMalay-nx6fr Ва алейкум Салам, брат, свобода для обоих наших братских народов.
Glad to see this series is doing well 😶🌫️
Thanks! It feels like I'm still finding my way, though!
Freedom for Tatarstan
Bashkortostan and Tatarstan together will be independent and form an alliance with Kazakhstan!
Wow, that would be an interesting outcome! I suspect Kazakhstan's current leadership will be really cautious about any step that would upset Moscow, but perhaps if Russia is unravelling then that will become less of a factor.
Amin!!!
Tatarstan häm Idel-Ural azatlıq bulırğa tieşlär! Böten cömhütiyätlär üzeñneñ bäysezlek häm azatlıq alırğa tieşlär! Berğä Mäskäü qarşına torırğa kiräk! Free Tatarstan! Free Idel-Ural! Freedom for all republics!!!
I'm not sure what language that is. The best fit I could find on Google Translate is Turkmen. Are you from Turkmenistan?
@@FredoRockwell no😊, it is Tatar language, but with Yañalif(Latin alphabet made for Turkic nations). We tried to make it official a long time, but Russia always cancels that idea (which crazy cause it is our own language and we have rights to do with that what we want)
@@FredoRockwell in Cyrillic version it is:
Татарстан һәм Идел-Урал азатлык булырга тиешләр! Бөтен җөмһүриятләр үзеңнең бәйсезлек һәм азатлык алырга тиешләр! Бергә Мәскәү каршына торырга кирәк!
Translation:
Tatarstan and Idel-Ural should be free! All republics should return own independence and freedom! We should stand against Moscow together!
Cool - thanks for explaining! I've heard of this happening before, especially during Soviet times. It's a shame that even someone's local language, they are no allowed to be free. :(
@@FredoRockwell 😢
Thank you for all your hard work!
Well done! Thanks!
Thanks this was very interesting and informative.
I'm very glad you liked it!
Thank you for this video! Very interesting facts!
Thank you! And thank you for the videos you're making as well!
Tatarstan should be free!
It's a beautiful culture, and it's dying under Russia's pressure same as many other cultures in Russian territory. Independence is the only way.
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Thanks for watching and for your comment. The way Russia tries to obliterate other cultures within its borders is shameful I think. Let's hope things change soon!
Independence is not the only solution
ну уж совсем то глупые инициативы запускать не надо... из каждого англоязычного утюга прет - Якутия отдельно, Татарстан отдельно - только вот забыли что Татарстан как национальная республика вдруг появилась только в советском союзе, а до этого прекрасно себе существовала как часть Российской империи без всякой национальной самоидентификации. А что касается богатств Татарстана - да, нефть есть, но не в тех объемах в каких Татарстан доходы получает, да - есть производство - но оно без остальных производств РФ пустышка. Татарстан глубоко интегрирован в экономику страны. Оторвать его от этой экономики - и ничего от этого не останется - особенно если учитывать что должности в Татарстане еще при Шаймиеве раздавали по родственным признакам. Я люблю Татарстан - но идею вырвать его из среды за счет которой он получает свои доходы - это верх идиотизма... Тех кто ратует за независимость Татарстана наверное надо бы отправить в какую нибудь из национальных советских республик - они отделились. Но много ли среди них таких где захотелось бы жить?
Best wishes to our neighbours! Алга Татарстан!
Long live Turkic Peoples 🈴
Very good.
Glad you liked it!
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Very good video, thanks a lot!
Alga, Tatarstan. 🙏
Алга Татарстан 💚♡❤
Thanks Fredo! 👍🤝👍
Thank you for working so hard to promote freedom in Tatarstan! 👏
Thank you! Apreciate this video. Hope my homeland will be free soon.
Аминь Аминь Аминь 💚♡❤
Алга Татарлар!
Рахмат!
Go Tatars!
Great stuff as always, I hope you can get some good info on the more obscure republics on a video as I have read quite a bit on Tatarstan and learned a thing or two here! I was very saddened when the previous federation treaty was not renewed and even though this was after Crimea was annexed, that's when it dawned on me how the Russian federation is as federal as North Korea is democratic (in practice). The hardest thing for me as a western liberal to understand is how Russia does not see the mutual benefit in giving its minorities meaningful autonomy. If the French can keep territories all over the world voting time and time again to join/remain within the republic in free and fair referenda, why can't Russia do the same by acting as an example of a federation minority nations want to be a part of? All this authoritarianism and corruption from the top down Is the biggest possible brake on Russia's economic and social development and a crime against the nationalities right to practice their culture and enjoy self determination. It takes a long time to grasp the mentality in the Kremlin, which is not unfounded given Russian history, which is that such moves inevitably lead to chaos and violence. If the Russky Mir were not as it is we could hope for such a natural development after the eventual collapse of the current order, as things stand at the moment those in power are co-opted and nothing is clear morally. Such a move would probably just be a manifestation of local oligarchs trying to preserve their privileges and wealth. It's like everything in Russia, the memory of the civil war, WW2 and the 90s poisons the thinking of the elite entirely as in my view they learned entirely the wrong lessons from these episodes in history. A civil and nonviolent national awakening of these regions would be healthy and more likely to be an engine for progress in Russia if given appropriate influence over federal policy and allowed to be local bastions of freedom and democracy, but I fear we are more likely to see Chechnya 2.0 if the state collapses as any legitimate local would-be leaders are in prison, dead or in exile. What we will get instead are mini Putin's. One day they have to break the cycle of repression and revolt playing out every few decades.
Thanks for your very in depth comment! I've been hearing more and more about how Russia is really an Empire from the 18th and 19th century, except unlike the other empires from this era it still exists. One reason is because Russians expanded their Empire on horseback, and not on ships, so it is all on contiguous piece of land. But also instead of merely extracting resources from their colonies, Russia has tried very hard to "Russian-ize" all of the people in its empire. I suspect that if Russia does unwind, even just a bit, there will be a period of instability, but that some of the states that emerge will be more democratic than what preceded them. After all, that's what happened with the Soviet Union. Also, the Soviet Union seemed destined to last forever (even to liberal Westerners like me) until one day it didn't. So I think there is still room for hope!
@@FredoRockwell that's a very good and succinct way of explaining what I was attempting to describe in my very long comment! An empire lingering on into the 21st century would behave in this way out of a desire for self preservation. I would like to share in your optimism and I can to an extent because things are so bad they ought to be better by default. I would like to see a Kazan spring but it's hard to see that blossoming spontaneously out of such a rotten system. The soviet collapse did result from a similarly failing state yielding to the inevitable but it was fuelled by the deliberate choice of Gorbachev to try to liberalise and reform society. A sudden collapse with no nascent civil society to step in and take the reins would be a disaster so I hope all the government's in exile and intelligentsia abroad are seriously preparing for this possibility.
@@veryveryintense I hope so too. And there may be a video about this in a few weeks....
Hey! We are waiting for a video about Cossackland.
I'll add it to the list. Is there a movement or organisation that leads the effort? Feel free to email me any information.
A very important point, Shaimiev held a referendum not as a separatist, but in accordance with the laws of the USSR. The USSR Law "About of the procedure for resolving issues related to the withdrawal of a Union Republic from the USSR" stated that if a union republic secedes from the USSR, such as Russia, which declared on 12.06.1990 that it is not part of the USSR, all the autonomies of this Union republic must independently choice their future. It was possible to raise the question of whether the people choose to stay in the USSR , in the former republic , or to become a sovereign state . Shaimiev raised the question of sovereignty and citizens supported this path of further development.
Well done. Another compliment from a Tatar
Thank You!
Thank you for watching!
Tatars are among the most loyal people to the Russian Federation. Many fought the banderists in the Ukraine. It's too bad few people that speak or understand Russian, because if they did they would understand that the vast majority of Tatars are completely happy as a constituent part of the Russian Federation.
Minority groups tend to be overrepresented in military forces. Minorities often have fewer economic opportunities, either through discrimination or a relative lack of economic development in their home region. For example, blacks and latinos are overrepresented in the US military. While I don't doubt the patriotism of any individual in the US military, I think it would be extremely disingenuous to use the overrepresentation as evidence that minorities are happy with the status quo in America.
The same can be said with the Russian miliary. As with the US military, it's heavy reliance on minority ethnic groups is an indication of bigger social problems rather than proof that everything is AOK.
Tatarstan surviving inside Russia? No. But as an independent country? Most likely yes.
That's an interesting way to put things!
Tatarstan will survive only when it is free!!!
@@FredoRockwell !!!
@@user-ws7cw2uh9s Agreed
Why didn't the Tatarstan get recognition in the 90's? I've always wondered why some countries get recognition and others don't
I had theory in an earlier version of the script. Basically, the countries which were recognised were all "republics" in the Soviet Union. Tatarstan was an "autonomous republic," which despite the name meant it was one level below "republic." For this reason Tatarstan didn't get recognition even though it wanted it, but Turkmenistan did even though its leadership tried to preserve the Soviet Union. This is just my theory, though!
В начале 90х Москва пригрозила Казани, что превратит наш Татарстан в Чечню (начнет бомбить), если решим отделиться от россии
@@RS-rs8hk Yes, I have read this also!
Residents of the Republic of Tatarstan during the referendum voted for secession from Russia, but Tatarsta is a colony.
@@FredoRockwell both those things are true - about the union republics only receiving independence and Putin threatening to turn Tatarstan into another Chechnya, though my sources say he did that in 2000, after he obliterated Grozny. Before the 1992 referendum, however, Moscow sent tanks to Tatarstan's borders to scare people away from voting for sovereignty. Thanks for the awesome video.
Free 💚🤍❤️
Do a video on Puerto Rico independence. We want independence 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Salomatlar bölsin Tatar qardoshlarimizga, Tangri sizlarga yordamchi bölsin! My freedom loving and deserving brothers, you are ALWAYS in ours hearts and we will never forget about you. 🇺🇿 🤝 💚 ❤️
Please make one about East Turkistan (Uyghurstan) and Tibet
Both are on my list. Tibet is more likely to be first. 🙂
Niech zyje wolny i niepodlegly Tatarstan
Tatarstan and more countries in russia should get independence
Will you replace the subsidies that Russia gives to these republics?
@@againstviralmisinformation510 that "subsidies" are just money that goes to all oblasts and provinces just like every other country does with their provinces
I have lived in Kazan, Tatarstan for 8 years, and highly respect the country and their culture, as well as, I'll always support their independence. Free Idel - Ural!!!✌️
No
Lol independence in your dreams
Бик зур рәхмәт! 🙏
could you do a video on the Assyrian independence movement or the Kampuchea Krom independence movement, as they are pretty interesting and have a lot of history (plus great video as always, the separatist movement videos are interesting)
Glad you liked it! And thanks for the suggestions. If I can keep producing these 5 minute videos consistently, I'm sure I'll get to them. I've heard of Assyrian minority groups, but not an independence movement. And I'm not exactly sure what Kampuchea Krom is either (although I'm guessing it's something to do with Cambodia?). Feel free to fill me in here with any more details.
@@FredoRockwell kampuchea krom is a region in vietnam (also known as cochinchina) formerly belonging to cambodia, and is inhabited by the khmer krom which is the term for khmer people living in vietnam.
there is an autonomist and secessionist movement by the khmer krom and they are an unrecognized minority by the vietnam government
(oh and for assyria there's many political groups, some calling for an autonomist assyria within Iraq, and some calling for outright independence. the movement dates back to WW1 when an assyrian state was proposed after assyrian militias helped the british against the ottomans)
@@chbober thank you!
To me it seems that unless Russia turns into a failed state like Afghanistan or Somalia (which doesn't seem impossible at the moment), an independant Tartarstan is unlikely and undesirable.
It would probably be better for Tatars to push for a more democratic Russian Federation and more autonomy rights (like the ones Scotland or Quebec have).
You make some good points. I suspect any move to genuine independence by Tatarstan would go hand in hand with a lot of other very big changes inside Russia. And as you say, this is possible at the moment. Personally I'm sceptical that a state with Russia's current borders will be genuinely democratic anytime soon, but I'd be very happy to be proven wrong!
@@FredoRockwell Sadly I feel the same way about the prospects of a democratic Russia. I just feel that a non-democratic Russia will always remain imperialist and won't ever accept the independence of Tartarstan.
Ukraine, Georgia and Armenia weren't really able to rid themselves of "Russian influence" and unlike Tartarstan they at least border other countries and are recognised internationally.
@@Leiwandererbut if russia goes to world war 3 I am sure it will collapse
"Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse"
I am from Tatarstan
Waiting for Chechnya , Russia
Tatarstan will be free!!!
Нэрсэ сэйлэде ул?
Татарстандагы хэллер турында....
@@user-ws7cw2uh9s ярар рэмэт🙋♂️
@@user-xc5jf8zs1n 🤝
Видео өчен хәзер татар телендәге субтитрлар бар, бу ярдәм итсә!
I recognize Tatarstan.
BBC: "What was your rank, soldier?"
Average Wagner SS-NKVD conscript: "I think the judge called it First Degree Murder, Armed Robbery and Sexual Assault ...and the medic told me that I am HIV and TBC positive. That's why I got this job: I passed all the tests."
Alğa Tatarstan! Qaynar sälämnär Başqortostandan
Turkics❤❤❤
👍
God bless Tatarstan. And I hope there's Tatars in Hungary becauae I've looked it up and there are.
i am.bulgarian and i hope god gices freedom to the tatars. or as i like to say bulgars as tatar is a mongol colonisation word. the bulgars and huns ruled europe once . unfortunately every bulgar right now wether its in tatarstan bulgaria or north macedonia are all stupid at the current state.....
4:34 Why are you so cruel, do you want to make the Russian Republic only within Muscovy?
Всем привет, я планирую начать снимать в своём городе видео про жизнь в Татарстане, заходите в гости😉
That sounds interesting! Good luck with your channel.
I'm from Tatarstan, but.........
I don't understand why would our republic be independent
Is it because of ukrainian war?
It’s because of propaganda. If Tatarstan becomes independent we in the west can more easily take your resources
@@againstviralmisinformation510 oh 💀
The war in Ukraine is putting the Russian Federation under strain. Just see the Wagner Uprising for an example. Nothing is at all certain, but it's conceivable that the RF might one day break apart in the same way that the Soviet Union did.
@@LordOfNeutralityThe5th As I said, they want it break up as did the Soviet Union so they can exploit the people their and the resources. Look at what we are doing to Africa. Tatarstan would be like Niger.
@@FredoRockwellLie lol No one supported the uprising
I am Chuvash, from the Chuvash republic just west of Tatarstan, alongside Tatarstan we fought for our freedom and the Union of the idel ural states! A lot of my friends and family members have some connection to Tatarstan. I wish you luck tatars. Just bring us with you!
I hope to make a video about Chuvashia before too long!
I know the Chuvash fought against Russians hundreds of years ago but not during the Russian revolution. The Chuvash didn’t have a nationalist movement as did the Bashkirs and Tatars (there was nationalism among the upper class but it didn’t develop into anything) My guess is because Chuvash are mostly Russian orthodox Christians. The Chuvash in turn have become more loyal to Russia.
Google "Idel Ural State"
@@againstviralmisinformation510chuvash are also not russians. nationality wise yes. chuvash and tatars as i understand are one people. their history starts in the regions attila the hun.
@@southamptonfan3460 Chuvash and Tatars don’t get a long they have also fought. Chuvash are vastly different from other Turkic people. Tatars are more closely related to Bashkirs.
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Can you do khalistan
Tatarstan is a Moscow´s colony
No even in western media it is common knowledge that Tatarstan did not want independence especially Mishar Tatars.
Really sorry, but if you think there's common knowledge about Tatarstan in the western media of any type, you're mistaken. Most people in the "West" have never heard of it (which is why I explain where and what Tatarstan is at the start of the video).
@@FredoRockwell “The referendum question was criticized for being vague and voters on the day of the referendum admitted it was "confusing".[24] The word 'sovereignty' was interpreted differently by the two opposing sides; nationalists believing it to be independence while unionists took it to mean nothing more than autonomy.[25] The Tatarstan government denied the referendum was for independence, instead saying it was to confirm and strengthen the republic's sovereignty declaration of 30 August 1990.” ~Wikipedia citing NYT and AP news.
Sorry but this information is common in the western information space but you do make a good point. Many people in the west don’t know what Tatarstan is but when they review your video, they will learn misinformation. If you are neutral in your videos and talk about the history of Tatarstan instead of the very small part where there is conflict you would get more subscribers.
The term "sovereign" was vague, and I think this does undermine the meaning of the referendum, but I think the use of a vague term here was on purpose. Previously the Tatarstan ASSR declared itself "sovereign," by which it meant its own laws were to be considered superior to USSR laws.
This isn't exactly a declaration of independence, but the differences are not very clear. Other republics (from memory, Lithuania and others) declared sovereignty first and then independence later when it was clear that Moscow's power was on the wane. Likewise, when the Tatarstan ASSR declared itself sovereign it also declared itself a republic (the Tatarstan SSR) and therefore equal to Russia and the other reupublics which later gained independence. It also, as I pointed out, declared itself a member of the CIS, which was initally a half-way house for new countries moving towards independence.
To me this makes it clear that Tatarstan's leadership in the early 90s wanted independence, but stopped short of a full declaration of independence for fear of political ramifications. But to be honest, I think it is very difficult to say what any political body "wanted" during this period, as everything was in flux, and there wasn't exactly a clear, democratic process to determine the will of the people.
One legacy of declaring "sovereignty" and not independence is it has allowed some to claim Tatarstan wasn't actually seeking independence, and I suspect that is precisely why this term was chosen. It is a term that can mean different things to different people at the same time, and politicians tend to find this sort of language useful.
What sort of alt-history is this? There practically is no independence movement in any of those regions
There are sources for each part of the video in the pinned column. Check them out! Also, I've been Rafis Kashapov (the political activist who was beaten, imprisoned, and forced into exile - this appears in a later video).
@@FredoRockwell You are aware this entire "movement" has more awareness among HOI4 players than the entire population of all these regions? I am sure there are some irrelevant people "in exile" who wish they were relevant, but they're not. It's not a thing, nobody there even thinks about independence
No way, that tartaristan can be independent country. That is too deep in Russia
What about what I explain towards the end of the video? If neighboring republics declare independence at the same time, do you think it would help?
@@FredoRockwell you give Putin an excuse to go on a ethnic cleansing campaign
Putin commits crimes against humanity so regularly I don't think he needs any excuses. I'm pretty sure he does what he wants and then thinks up a reason to justify it afterwards.
@@FredoRockwell China and Russia will always make up a reasons for whatever war crimes they do everyday
Agreed!
Thank you so much for such logical, clear informative video about my second native Nation - Tatars. I have not seen my Tatar grandmother since russians annexed Crimea. I pray for my grandmother to see her daughter and granddaughter soon. "Freedom to the person, Freedom to Nations suppressed by Moscow Empire!" Stepan Bandera. PS: russinas should be banned (in sports, politics, art, science and business!) until they get out from Ukrainian territory and let Chechens, Tatars, Yakuts and all other nations to be free...
I'm really glad you liked them video. Thank you for such a nice comment. 🙂
Мерзкий провокатор. Идея расчленения России не нова. Сейчас этой идеей поглащены городские сумасшедшие, если иметь в виду Татарстан, так как в союзе с Россией Татарстан растёт и процветает. Татарстан без идиотских советников, ни хрена не понимающих в реалиях, прекрасно проживёт вместе с Россией. А негодяй, который поддерживает этот канал должен знать, что он нарушает закон РФ и рано или поздно будет отвечать. Расчленение России означает смерть миллионов людей в гражданских войнах, которые возникнут неизбежно. Именно поэтому мерзких провокаторов необходимо наказывать
Tstarzy, kiedy w koncu odetniecie od siebie moskiewsiego pasozyta
I think that tatarstan gets a good deal by staying with russia. They get relative autonomy and are protected. Good video as always Freddo, really enjoyed it!!
Thanks, I'm glad your liked it. What sort of autonomy does Tatarstan have in your opinion? From what I've read there's only very limited autonomy for any region or republic in Russia today
@@FredoRockwell Im not really sure as I'm not tatar or russian, but i have heard tatars liking staying with russia throughout the internet.
@@Veriox22 Those who want to stay in Russia are Mankurts. Moscow has been trying to assimilate us for centuries, imposing its religion and traditions. People look askance at us on public transport if we speak Tatar. Tatar lessons in schools are decreasing every year. They drive it into the heads of young people that it is shameful to be a Tatar, and Russians are a great people. There is practically no service in the Tatar language in the state educational institutions of the cities of Tatarstan. Moscow is trying in every possible way to minimize our communication in the Tatar language.
@@Rayxan-sn1br ok but independence would be san marino. Encircled by russia on all sides.
@@Veriox22 I am a Tatar and we do not like to stay in Russia because we are against terrorist attacks on Ukraine and condemn in Russia our culture, people, language are being killed for a few reasons I cannot live in Russia I am a Tatar from Tatarstan myself!
Could America fall apart? Will Texas declare independence? How about EU?
Oh gosh! I hadn't thought of that! Wait, no. I've also made videos about the Texas independence movement (my most recent one) and a survey of several other independence movements in the US. Go check 'em out, dude! 😎
@@FredoRockwell Ooops! How could I miss it!!! I will have to click the subscribe button never to miss again fabulous content!
@user-mu9ke9ex9f Easily done!
Slava Ukraini and Tatarstan!
Успехов автору канала! Это отличный ролик!
Большое спасибо!
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Суверен Татарстан
Free Natoins of PostRussia Forum, which will be held on January 31, 2023 in Brussels, in the European Parliament.
During my introduction, I want to turn my attention to a very important, urgent problem, namely, to the NATO generals. As we already know, Russia is involved in large-scale, ruthless military and terrorist actions against Azerbaijan, Moldova, Albania, Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, UK, the Czech Republic, Kazakhstan and Ukraine...
It is very wonderful when NATO countries help Ukraine, and we, the colonized peoples, need protection, for the complete and general decolonization of Russia.
Let me remind you that today in Russia, those who defend the national rights of their people or come to the defense of Ukraine are subjected to severe persecution.
About 200 colonized nations live in Russia. Each of them faces various repressive actions from Moscow. We need help from NATO countries, the EU and the UN.
Rafis Kashapov - Deputy. Prime Minister of the government of independent Tatarstan in exile, member of the VTOC Presidium, one of the co-founders of the Free Idel-Ural movement, London.
Any luck?
I am from Bulgaria. What do you, people of Tatarstan, know and think of us?
I think that bulgarians are the Best slavs:)
@@vtybhj5669 If.you are tatar or chuvash i imagine it comes with a bit off bias haha 😉 SLAVA |Y|
My homeland!❤ I am proud that I am Tatar, I know how my ancestors fought for the independence of Tatarstan! All my relatives are Tatars, from generation to generation. We keep our traditions and appreciate them! My dream is for Tatarstan to become a country !
Yes, it is true that our people have a thousand-year history!
Thank you for watching and for sharing that!
@@FredoRockwell спасибо что поднимаете эту тему!
Иншаллах ❤❤🤍💚💚