2 Million Watt Generators Can Keep Your Business Running!
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- čas přidán 5. 05. 2024
- David gives a tour of two Cat XQ2000 generators, each capable of generating 2MW of power! This video will showcase the design, features, and how you can use these generators to keep your business going.
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I noticed in the video that I got a little sloppy with Amps and Kw…. As you know in the 480 3 phase world this mistake isn’t a huge one as they nearly align at the amperage’s we are discussing in this video. So as I was discussing the maximum amperage and wattage I inadvertently interchanged these terms a couple of times. So to be clear the load bank is 650KW (650,000) at this load the amperage is around 775 amps.
Each of the 4/0 cable is rated to take 400 amps … that’s why we used two runs per phase
So we configured this at 800 amps. The most the load bank can draw is less than 790 amps (the low volt shut off and amperage protection curcuits)
Sorry I got a little sloppy on these terms and didn’t catch it in the edit.
I appreciate you guys watching I try to keep these as accurate as possible …. Sorry for the screwup.
What a clean and professional set up, can tell you and your crew take pride in your work!
Thanks for sharing…. We try. The right equipment for the right job….
This guy is so stoked about this setup. Love it
lol. You are correct. However, in the past before we had access to these larger units I was taking 300kw 275kw 175kw units and having to piece together a solution for my customers. With the addition of these unit and units that can parallel I can add a new level of support for my customers…. My kids even hammer me on the same thing. I appreciate you watching and making my kids happy.
That's a crazy amount of fuel consumption, i would just be curious to see how you hook the tanker up to supply fuel to them.
We will try to get a video out that demonstrates that --- these units have a day tank lift pump -- we have interface that allows this pump to fill the day tank and let the overflow return back to tanker -- thanks for watching
With a hose. Pretty easy
Father had a hotel property in some remote area of Illinois that was powered by a large Cat Diesel Gen Set. This generator used a recalculation tank for the oil system. It was a multistage filter system that dumped the oil back into a 200 gallon container. Every 48 hours it would recycle the oil so if Cat came in for service (only once a year ) all they did was empty the reserve tank and refill with fresh oil. Pretty efficient system that ran reliably. Also was doing work at Hospital for their emergency radio system. It happened to coincide with the day they ran their monthly generator test and transfer system. I do not know the size of these two large Cat generators but you could not go into the building unless you wore double ear protection. Just standing in the doorway with both generators running, one could feel the thumping in one’s chest as these things were producing full power. The techs were limited to 5 minutes of sound exposure every hour inside the generator room itself. The control room was ok since it had decent sound protection.
That’s pretty neat on the oil. I believe these units it take like 108 gallons. That’s crazy. The recycling system sounds like a great idea. I appreciate you watching and commenting… thanks
The data center I worked at previously ran 4 of these generators and had 6 detroit diesel generators set up inside the building all fed by underground fuel tanks. Their utility bill was phenomenal, I can't imagine what their gas bill would be.
that crazy. -- think of computer power and air conditioning that requires more than 14 megawatts of power. - unreal. thanks for watching
@@ParkerSystemsI've seen spec sheets for datacenter campuses with 100 megawatts of available power. Also got to tour a large dc for it's opening, they had even larger generators indoors with massive air louvers to let air in when they needed to fire up, that stuff all tends to run at distribution voltage, 12-14kv phase to phase, the massive ups systems tend to run 480 volt, then come the final step down transformers to 120/208 after the ups, those ups systems can be similarly physically large and powerful, up to a few megawatts each, and everything is redundant, I think you'd like seeing the guts of a facility like that, redundant chillers, redundant air handlers, both with redundant power, including generator backup, redundant generators, all main IT loads fed by multiple feeds coming off different panels fed by different ups's, redundant network links, redundant pathways for external connectivity entering different cable vault rooms, the redundancy and uptime specs get pretty nuts, but when max allowable downtime for power/network/cooling is 5 minutes a year and so e facilities advertise on how in a number of years since opening they have no downtime it's a matter of nothing being left to chance. It's been awhile and I imagine it was smaller generators but I'm pretty sure I've seen a facility with over 20 generators, I've seen multi hundred thousand gallon emergency water tanks, connections to multiple water mains, multi hundred thousand gallon buffer tanks for chilled water, typical fuel on-site is at least 48-96 hours at full load, so tens of thousands of gallons.
Had 3 of these 3516 units permanently installed at a water plant where I retired from. Ours were set up to provide 13.2 kv.. each unit weighs 80,000 pounds. Had 300 gallon day tanks fed from a 24,000 gallon main tank. Each unit used 150 gallons per hour under full load. We could sync all 3 together and also parallel the utility if needed.
That’s crazy. That’s a ton of power in one place. That most have been a huge water company. Thanks for watching.
I worked at a broadcast facility that had four of these. They only needed 2 at a time but because they needed absolute redundancy, if they lost power, all four fired up, and after thirty minutes, the SCADA system would start dropping off gensets to match load. The gensets fed two redundant UPS systems that took their AC to DC and charged batteries and then had inverters that took the DC back to AC. They could also back feed the utility power if need be and did on several occasions when the local utility asked them to feed power from the two “extra” gensets back to the grid. Diesel wasn’t as expensive then.
Worked in Swiss datacenter they put 6 of these in the basement and had busbars for 2000amps running to upper floors with servers. Insane how big motors they are.
wow -- thanks crazy --- thats a ton of power in one place. -- thanks for commenting -- crazy 12 megawatts
Go ahead and take my money! I want one of them, don't need quite that big, but everything is bigger in Texas! 🤠👍
Thanks for watching …. You are right about Texas. These gensets would fit right in…. Everything in Texas already seems to be the biggest.
awesome video sir
Thanks for watching. We appreciate your comments
Pretty cool to see the diesel tanks I make at United Alloy be in this trailer gen set, might have welded on this one
wow that pretty cool - those tanks are pretty special -- when add the complexity of weight DOT regs and double walls they are pretty special engineered containers --- thanks for your comment -- its cool when people watch and share their expertise --- thanks
Let’s see you fire it up!
we have a video coming out that demonstrates a cold start, good old youtube classics
Now that’s badass 😎
They are pretty cool. 2 million watts. That’s a lot. Thanks for watching
I installed the baby brother of these. A 1MW genset as a temp while the hospital I work at is replacing one of their permanent generators. Hooked up with parallel 400mm^2 flex cables.
That cool. Is 400mm^2 is like 750 mcm cable. We use gauge then jump to mcm or kcmil …. Some people call it million. I guess 1,000 x 100. In any case that’s big cable. Did it have connectors or just lug to lug. Thanks for watching.
@@ParkerSystems Yes they are hefty cables for sure. I used lugs, had to hire a large 60 tonne hydraulic crimper.
For those "loading dock" installations, you should issue lanyards to your employees. That way, if someone of a slight build gets sucked up onto an intake, they don't lose their radio, and can still call for help.
Excatly. lol. Thanks for watching
At the Cat dealer I work for we have a few of those. We have a large customer that has 400 of the 3516 stationary units and 6 portable unit. 3 of those we bought from Ring Power and only had 12-15 hours on them. Basically look just like yours.
Wow. 40 in one place. That’s crazy. How did they do the fuel. Diesel or nat gas.
@@ParkerSystems 400 divided into 3 campuses. All diesel.
I have pictures of a 1-1.5 MW gen set with sunk landing gear. The guy who worked for the fueling company started fueling it up, as he was fueling it, is when it started sinking. I do wish I could make videos about some of the stuff I run across, it’s a customer & company policy deal there.
That’s easy to do with a regular landing gear. Let alone when you pile another 8,000 lbs of fuel on an already heavy trailer.
Walmart owns about a dozen of them for powering stores during extended outages as well as the dcs
Yes, I have seen these deployed in the past for those guys - thanks for watching
We have a stationary 2000kw Perkins genset at a hospital complex.
Build a complete new transfomer and low voltage distribution building for them. 3x 1250kva transformers, HV side is 10kv, 400v 3 phase on the LV side, filled two rooms with Siemens Sivacon power distribution cabinets for the LV distribution. The SF6 10kv switchgear was also supplied by Siemens.
State of the art installation. They wanted it new, reliable and only the best of the best.
We have as much redundancy as possible in the system.
The LV feed is divided into 3 "units" which can be freely coupled or decoupled, the transformers feed into unit 1 which is the least important while unit 2 and 3 are fed by unit 1 and also directly coupled to the generator. Unit 2 and 3 feed the critical infrastructure of the hospital like elevators, operating rooms, the ER, etc...
In case of an outage it will take around 15 seconds until the power is back on via the Generator.
I would have liked a CAT or MTU genset more than the Perkins though.
That is an impressive setup. I have another video coming out that touches on paralleling and transfer switches, dead bus arbitration, etc. I really appreciate you taking the time share you installation, that is impressive. I am curious with all those transformers and possible some vfds on your HVAC and other systems was circular neutral currents from harmonics engineered or studied for your final design or install. Do you know the pitch of the genset head on that Perkins unit?
Thanks for watching and sharing your install with the community
Beyond emergency response due to a natural disasters, or supporting critical infrastructure while replacing an electrical substation, what kind of situations would mandate this much portable power?
Rigged up 16 of these in parallel for a Chevron Gas Plant construction in Australia for Energy Power Systems Australia.. (the Australian branch of rental CAT power).. all running Comap control. 3x 60'000L fuel tanks with a common line to feed thr day tanks..
Wow that’s amazing. That has to be crazy. That’s a lot of power in one place. I appreciate the comment and you sharing your experiences…. Did the day tanks auto fill or did you have to go thru and manually do it. Thanks for watching
How fast will it charge my iPhone ?
lol what’s crazy is most people agree it can take up to 20 watts to charge an iPhone. But they will obviously charge at lower say 5-10 watts. That’s means we could charge at max rate 100,000 iPhones at the same time. But you could realistically charge like 250,000 at the same time. That is crazy. Thanks for watching
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From a rental perspective what type of application do you usually see this used in?
We see them in oil and gas, pipelines, industrial applications, commercial shutdowns, hurricanes on large retail and medical facitlites - - thanks for watching
WM always rents 4 or more of these when there's even a slight chance of a hurricane to keep their perishable warehouses up
That's not the largest portable genset. The company I work for has almost 200 2.5MW generators that use Cat 3520's and we're building some 3.3MW generators that use Jenbacher engines.
That's cool.... I stand corrected. Are they built on a similar platform? -- while I know there are many larger gensets, by portable I meant transportable with normal trucking -- I am aware there are many larger units that can moved with special permits. Thanks for watching is there a website or a youtube where we can take a look at these units, what are these units used for? ... thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@@ParkerSystems they are on a similar platform. 4 axle trailers. We move them every couple weeks. They are used for electric fracing mostly but we also have grid back up and data center contracts. VoltaGrid is the name of the company.
czcams.com/video/E4xAz3JD5zU/video.htmlfeature=shared
This doesn't get indepth but it shows our first gen units on a frac site.
I need to grow weed with these
I think we can get the voltage back to 420 volts -- thanks for watching
What's the rough monthly rental fee for this? Like $60K?
You are all over the rate of course it varies … standby …. Single shift …. Triple shift …. 24/7 everyone has different ways to lease them. Etc. Thanks for watching.
@@ParkerSystems Yeah, it can be hard to estimate. We are currently renting 3 35-ton chiller trailers and that's running us around $25K a month. Expensive.
I want one
They are amazing….
At CAT we always talked about those being hydrostatic driven like the earth moving equipment?
That would be cool. I guess they are connected with a flex plate? I bet the hydrostatic method would work well also would provide a mechanical decouple ….
how did you get into this business?
started doing disaster recovery after working with Motorola during the 96 Olympics --- thanks for watching.
Hit me up to learn how to equalize audio on the audit. This experience is rough.
thanks for the help -- that video was filmed outside, the industrial background noise makes the audio a bit challenging -- We did two independant close microphone one wireless and one wired.. the background ambient presented us with several issues -- we really try to maintain a high quality audio -- speech intelligibility is important to us, we know that impacts the enjoyment of the video -- thanks for watching, even with the audio challenges
@@ParkerSystems love you guys! But this audio issue was known at the beginning of filming. Hit me up if you want help!
CAT best in the buisness
Hard to beat CAT engines and their engineering …. I am a fan. We have lots of cat equipment .
Wow, big enough to charge a Tesla Semi. Didn't he say charged in 30 minutes? One megawatt-hour battery, charged in 30 minutes = two megawatt of supply. Every trucking company can just buy one of those two MW Cats to charge their trucks while they wait to get their 2,000KVA electric service LMAO.
On a more serious note, have you used them to power a facility with a bunch of rectification or 6 pulse VFDs? How well do they handle the harmonics? Do you also have rental transformers?
I loved the Telsa semi analogy …. Right on point …. VFDs and battery chargers harmonic creators …. These are 2/3 pitched genset, so based on your question you are very knowledgeable, so I don’t have to tell you that in theory they don’t create the third order harmonic, and I don’t have to tell you that the lowest harmonics are the most destructive, but with that said we would have to monitor for circular issues on the neutral buss, especially when considering how messy the waveforms get when you move into the vfd and rectifier world ….
We have access to lost of transformers, I have purchased a couple and I’m in the process of making them transportable and getting in the stock the testing and high voltage cables for the outputs. 13.8 - 15kv
Thanks for watching … great comment
1 tanker of fuel each day?
If ran both units at capacity. You would burn 6,000 gallon of fuel. That’s 2/3 of the tanker capacity
ive used two units like this for bruce springsteen consert
I would have like to see a stage that needs 2 - 4 meg genset that’s crazy. Thanks for your comment and following along
@@ParkerSystems New zealand different voltage second unit was redundancy
its basically a locomotive without traction motor
For sure -- I wonder what the HP is on a typical locomotive I would guess 3-8 thousand HP ? I think the older units used DC gneset with a smaller engine making like 500 KW at 480 AC -- but new locomotives may be AC with drives running the drive motors -- I have heard of railroad companies parking locomotives in a town and powering the town in the event of a power outage - - thanks for watching
9200 gallons of fuel? That sounds a bit high for five axles.
You right. You might be a little heavy. Fuel is 6.2 trailer is 10k truck is 18k fuel 56k … so about 84k. …. During a hurricane you would be okay. In ga we operate under a 100k permit.
How many football fields is that? It's 2 megawatt, just like 2 million pennies is $20000.
That pretty good -- everybody compares everything to a football field -- so we could park 3 wide on a field and 30 rows -- so 90 will fit on one football field. -- I guess 100 if we use feet instead of yards -- lol.
thanks for watching
30,000hrs?? No way. We do heads at 10-15,000 depending on valve recession, crank and rod bearings at 30,000hrs. Pistons and liners at 60,000hrs. And a lot of our engines have over 200,000hrs in island power plant applications. If you follow oil analysis properly and don’t wipe out a crankshaft you never need to lift the block off the oil pan for the life of the unit.
Wow. That’s crazy that’s over 20 years. 20+ years running continuously … that’s what we love about making these videos …. We get to talk with people that do cool things and have great experiences. Thanks for watching and commenting. We appreciate your taking your time to give us your insight. Thanks for the comment.
Those motors were great for MARINE APPLICATIONS
Oh yeah. I have found several on line. I bet they make ton of horse power when they have an entire ocean to keep them cool. Thanks for watching
Maybe they can find a way to keep the doors open 😂
they need to keep the doors closed to control air flow around and thru the electrical side of the gensets as well as to send the noise up where it is considerably less noticeable. most of the large rental power units need to be quiet enough to be put in a communication or medical center where noise is a real concern.
thanks for watching --- I guess I should have reshot that part - they actually have door brace bracket that will keep that door from blowing close -- thanks for watching
thanks for the comment -- I think the commenter was making fun of me getting wacked in the head when the wind blew the door -- thanks for watching -- your points are correct.
30000 hours? That's nothing. I worked on natural gas 3520 & 3516 gensets where the counters stopped counting at 99000 hours. I would estimate an inframe rebuild would be every18000 to 27000 hours depending on detonation factor. 8760 hours aprox a year practically non stop full load. Those Cats are incredibly durable when properly maintained.
Thanks for taking the time to enlighten us on this, I also had another guy comment and speak about hours that you suggest -- what a durable machine -- those numbers are crazy -- he was mentioning numbers over 200,000 hours as well -- thanks amazing. -- thanks for watching