Springbok No. 8 Legends | Spies VS Vermeulen | Who would you pick?

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  • čas přidán 18. 03. 2024
  • Springbok legends Duane Vermeulen and Pierre Spies were very similar number 8’s, both big, strong, imposing ball carriers.
    Duane Vermeulen spent a large amount of his playing career in South Africa representing local franchises, Cheetahs, Stormers and the Blue Bulls but also ventured overseas and enjoyed stints with Toulon in France, Kubota Spears in Japan and Ulster in Ireland.
    Spies remained loyal to the Blue Bulls whilst he played in South Africa, racking up well over 100 caps for his club side before venturing to France in 2016 and signing for Montpellier, where Spies would see out the remainder of his professional career.
    Both incredible athletes from different rugby eras but who would you pick in your starting 15.
    Let us know in the comments section.
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Komentáře • 57

  • @wernerfolscher6909
    @wernerfolscher6909 Před 4 měsíci +11

    If both in their prime you start Vermeulen and Spies is in the bomb squad

  • @stefannieuwoudt4782
    @stefannieuwoudt4782 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Spies was good but Duane is a legend. I believe they both played for the Boks at the right time. I don’t think Spies beats Duane in the past 2 world cups because of the type of game we played which was quite more defensive. Sure if we were running all the time, Spies… but that just wasn’t the game we played and getting a ton of high balls back where we were dependant on rock solid defence, turnovers and limited mistakes - Duane’s the man.

  • @GlitchedVoid57
    @GlitchedVoid57 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Spies was a genetic freak of an athlete. He was a Wing in the body of an 8. Duane was the perfect 8. Strong, big, imposing ball carrier, mobile and agile. Duane was the better 8, SPies was a better athlete. However, I pick Duane at 8, and you can put Spies on the bench or somewhere like Centre.

  • @skibbitybopmdada
    @skibbitybopmdada Před 4 měsíci +7

    Thor is the ultimate package, the mold for the modern eight man. Spies is a next level athlete.

    • @RugbyNow_
      @RugbyNow_  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Who you starting and who you benching though?

    • @reinhardthuman3565
      @reinhardthuman3565 Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah man totally agree 👍

    • @ntsikandamase
      @ntsikandamase Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@RugbyNow_Duane starts, beats people up, tenderize them, steals balls and Spies comes when everyone is tired and runs the show

  • @craigmorgan4676
    @craigmorgan4676 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Difficult but probably Spies an absolute unit,serious ball carrier!👌💪🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🏈🏈🏈🏈💯💯💯💯

  • @silentlocal
    @silentlocal Před 4 měsíci +5

    Spies was fast, Vermeulen was powerful.

  • @rudierasmus8162
    @rudierasmus8162 Před 4 měsíci +2

    im always going to pick Spies

  • @christiaandutoit1094
    @christiaandutoit1094 Před 4 měsíci +3

    both magnificent

  • @gravyfish4684
    @gravyfish4684 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Spies for impact Vermeulen for consistency.

  • @khayasontsele8984
    @khayasontsele8984 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Vermeulen is a more traditional Number 8, and better suited to the position. Spies was an unusual physical specimen for the position. Both were great Springboks. Vermeulen just shades Spies. Spies would have been devastating with Rassie as coach, particularly in the Bomb Squad running at tired bodies.

    • @RugbyNow_
      @RugbyNow_  Před 3 měsíci

      Love these thoughts. Thank you 🙏

  • @richardshort2387
    @richardshort2387 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Pierre Spies

  • @akhonabukula7622
    @akhonabukula7622 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Vermeulen was very powerful and smart, he could bulldoze a defense line and still be able to offload while being tackled, dangerous 8. Spies was 3x because he was powerful, very smart, he could read the field just like a backline player and he could easily gain ground because of his fast pace, you could put him at number 12 or 13 he would do the job. Spies was ❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥

  • @markbruce7674
    @markbruce7674 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Spies..perfect no 8

  • @noyonuls6521
    @noyonuls6521 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Spies

  • @jonathanfurno9004
    @jonathanfurno9004 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Piere Spies!!!💯🎉💪🤝

  • @zanekessler9628
    @zanekessler9628 Před 4 měsíci

    Both, 1 for bomb squad and one for starting

  • @mountainman9145
    @mountainman9145 Před 4 měsíci

    Vermuelen is the answer to this question. The best Bok 8 of the professional era.

  • @robsargent8801
    @robsargent8801 Před 4 měsíci +1

    DVM NR8 - Spies NR14 (Spies could have prolonged his career at wing and would have been right up there with Lumo as one on the greatest ever) - dont get me wrong he was a awesome 8 but I think at wing he would have unstopable

    • @parabat
      @parabat Před 4 měsíci +1

      Spies and Kwagga in a Bomb squad of 7.

  • @fibbernatchie
    @fibbernatchie Před 4 měsíci +4

    if only Spies had Thors mongrel

  • @JulianaZito
    @JulianaZito Před měsícem

    In terms of defense and aggression Vermeluan but offense and speed Spies. Spies at 111kg ran 10.75s in 100m

  • @Mostlycars888
    @Mostlycars888 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Thor every single day of the week!!

  • @kristian762
    @kristian762 Před 4 měsíci

    Spies is a Legend, but I'd take Duane. I think he brings more to a team

    • @RugbyNow_
      @RugbyNow_  Před 4 měsíci

      Has the leadership aspect as well

  • @kihara4244
    @kihara4244 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Thor all day, every day for the full 80. Spies should have been converted to a 12, although his defensive abilities might have counted against him

    • @bottomeyeview2767
      @bottomeyeview2767 Před 4 měsíci

      Spies was a deadly 8th man. Powerful, exlosive, fast. He started playing 8 late but still was one of the best on form. And nothing wrong with his defense.

  • @dewaldcarstenstimberfoxfir7604
    @dewaldcarstenstimberfoxfir7604 Před 4 měsíci +1

    As jy Vermeulen in Spies se lyf sit, is hy stukkend binne 2 minute...

  • @davidevan3956
    @davidevan3956 Před 4 měsíci

    Both good ,and truly legends

  • @stevenbennett9756
    @stevenbennett9756 Před 4 měsíci

    For me Vermeulen, just more consistent

  • @C9-mu4wr
    @C9-mu4wr Před 4 měsíci +1

    Who else thinks Duane for the best No.8 of all time though??

    • @RugbyNow_
      @RugbyNow_  Před 4 měsíci +1

      He did have it all, power on attack, lethal on defence and a great leader as well.

  • @jacoetsebeth150
    @jacoetsebeth150 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thor!!!!

  • @johanriekert3462
    @johanriekert3462 Před 4 měsíci

    DVM highlights are all in test matches. Spies highlights are club games.....in the big test matches Duane is the better player.

  • @PeterDuval
    @PeterDuval Před 4 měsíci +4

    Forget your sentiments. On the evidence of this video, Pierre all the way. He is way more difficult to stop and he makes more meters.

    • @robsargent8801
      @robsargent8801 Před 4 měsíci

      turnovers by DVM won many tests something Spies was not good at

  • @rugbywhisperer-coachkane3038

    Vermeulen easily... Spies was just a long range ball carrier and at times cover defender. Vermeulen was way better at Breakdown steals, high ball management, in a world cup final he's the best. Spies was a Super Rugby Player

  • @johannesfourie8552
    @johannesfourie8552 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thor 10/10 Spies 7/10
    Thor had a much longer in SA than Spies.

  • @jpgous675
    @jpgous675 Před 4 měsíci

    Spies was a absolute beast and definitely amongst the best of the best 8s. But Duane... he was called Thor for a reason... that man had godlike 8 qualities.

  • @johanterblans8266
    @johanterblans8266 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Once Spies juice wore off and he could not refill, he was just average!
    Vermeulen all the way!

  • @mtnstrand2819
    @mtnstrand2819 Před 4 měsíci +1

    They were both excellent nr 8's. Vermeulen slightly the better of the two imho.

  • @stefwessels955
    @stefwessels955 Před 4 měsíci

    Duane for sure💪 our best

  • @TFARM56
    @TFARM56 Před 4 měsíci

    Just like eben has now passed bakkies BOTHA the original first generation enforcer ..thor has done the same.........

  • @LockedDownSpectator
    @LockedDownSpectator Před 4 měsíci

    People forget how, towards the end of his carrier, Pierre Spies was now a punching bag for how he was soft and did not have the testicular fortitude for his position.

  • @docarw
    @docarw Před 4 měsíci

    Duanne every time

  • @martinvermeulen5858
    @martinvermeulen5858 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Duane any day and twice on Sundays!👍👍

  • @christophdykman9364
    @christophdykman9364 Před 4 měsíci

    Daymani is like spies strong and fast

  • @user-yy8tf5sr9g
    @user-yy8tf5sr9g Před 4 měsíci

    Hands Downs Duan Vermeulin .

  • @sollyferreira7352
    @sollyferreira7352 Před 4 měsíci

    Gary Teichman

  • @user-bv9pj9co4p
    @user-bv9pj9co4p Před 4 měsíci

    If u truly believe spies was better than thor then quit watching rugby

  • @QuinMighty
    @QuinMighty Před 4 měsíci

    Spies was highly overrated. Lazy at the breakdown and scared of contact. Vermeulen the obvious choice.

  • @kevinowen4824
    @kevinowen4824 Před 4 měsíci

    Spies steroids. He will remain forever tainted as a result

  • @chud1290
    @chud1290 Před 4 měsíci

    😂😂😂😂😂 spies? The ruck inspector.
    Softest nr8 we have ever had