PD Simplified | Larger tyres for your motorcycle
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- čas přidán 31. 10. 2021
- You’ve thought about it, no? The idea of having a giant, fat tyre at the back of the motorcycle, just like you see on the big bikes is a universal aspiration. There are also those amongst you who think that more rubber equals more grip, more confidence and a better riding experience. But does that add up? Are the manufacturers sticking skinny tyres on your bike just for the cost? Shumi has the answers
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Hey #PDArmy, we hope this helps you with your upsizing doubts! Hit that Like button if you loved the video, and let us know below what more we should cover.
Yes it was helpful
Can you do a video on rev matching and shifting gears more quickly
Can you tell us why the tyres get a bump in them??
Can't we put a dominar 400 rear tyre to the dominar 250? They are literally same for the rims and stuff?..... What do you say?
My karizma zmr v2 had a stock tyre of 120 at back and 80 at front. My rear tyre used to slip on heavy rains even in 40 to 50 kmph, but i upsized it to 130 and used the interceptor tyres by ceat and now that my rear end got grippier my front with 80 section tyres started slipping on roads or atleast i noticed it only when the rear got better. What tyre should i upgrade it to? The bike really picks up speed but the front tyre is scary. Should i upsize it and if yes pls suggest a good tyre for me. Note that the rim diameter is 18 inches and not the usual 17s and there are a few options.
That's the content I pay my internet bills for.. Great video as always PD.. SHUBAMA OP..😀
Thank you AR!
@@shu_mar Is there an issue if the upgraded size is just the next size from stock ? for eg. from 130mm stock to 140mm ?
@@shu_mar Thank You as well sir.. ♥️
@@iam_grisel9775 Yes.
@@shu_mar Thank you 😇
Thank you PowerDrift and Shumi. These videos have definitely changed my perspective as a rider.
It is 12:30 am here in LA but I am still watching now instead of waiting till the morning! Thats how interesting these videos are! Keep it up Shumi bro!
Oh yeah! Glad to hear #PDArmy got a man in LA too! ;) Now you can spread the word there!
12:30am childsplay😆
@@shahan484 for you maybe who have nothing to do and get tired..
'If you want to look at motorcycles, there are motorcycle museums for it. We buy motorcycle to ride it..'
Best line in today's video!
Disagree max. It's the chicken strips and friends laughing at you part ! 😂
@@svr4922 and that too!
I made a mistake when I upsized my Hero Impulse rear tyre to a 120/90-17 which is a Himalayan rear tyre.
The original is 110/90-17, it looked cool, however I could never go beyond 65kmph..
Originally the 150cc is underpowered and it made matters worse.
Shumi is 100% right, dont change your tyres
Oh no! That sucks really bad!
Now you know what to no do in the future! ;)
I also used the 120/90-17 on the Impulse. But it worked great, even clocked 120+ speeds.
Oh, I also had a ZMR engine swapped in the bike
But a 150 michellin tyre is far better than an old 140 Mrf revz.... Personally used it in my old fz and it improved handling and performance
😂@@GaadiGhoda
I downsized my fz rear tyre from 140 to 130, bike became quick, easy to corner and slight increase in mileage.
130/70/17 is it?
@@user-cy1jn7zf8u yes
Did you had to change the rim for downsizing the tyre ?
@@biswarajkarmakar9650 no rim size remains 17, tyre wall has increased but it became little skinny.
actually I'm planning to doing the same , can you suggest me the tyre company or a perticular type ? thank you .
That bit about the tyres in relation to skill and execution around corners hits me hard. Love from the Philippines
I'd love to know about different suspension set up like preload, compression and rebound adjustments
Check the shop manual video on this by ari henning (revzilla)
@@svr4922 thanks man 💯
The timings couldn't have been bang on, I was thinking of upsizing my scooter tyres, the idea has been dropped for now. Love your vids always Shumi sir, keep up the good work... 👍👍
Thank for covering this topic team PD and dear shumi
This format of vids are such a boon thank you!
Always happy to make them for you! Cheers! :D
got it, when you said if you want to look go to museum...superb shumi sir...!
Shumi sir be clearing all of the facts so good 🔥
Some Diwali clearing! :P
Motor inc sumi is a different person now 💀👀
Thanks a lot. I knew most of these but coming from you guys made me change my mind. I was planning to put 150/60 on my CBR250R but will now stick to the stock 140/70 size.
Wait....doesnt the cbr 250 r use 150 section from factory?
@@rohanalias9053 No. It is 140/70/R17
@@RRP1992 damn...my bad then
Thanks a lot for generalizing the thing for motorcycles & scooters too. I am a scooter guy & love to know about every single thing that can make it totally the best to ride without tampering it. So, thanks a gazillion for generalizing the thing.
Meanwhile, the series is fabulous & pretty sure it is never ending.
Very informative, I was looking for this information as I was about to change the tyres on my bike, thought of going to large section Tyres, but now nope.
Thank you.
Glad we could help you Nikhil! :D
What about under sizing from 130 to 120 and getting dual purpose tyres to do some trails... Will it affect negatively in any way??
Thank You Shumi,Just I'm On The Way To Upsize My Shine Tyre Today,But Your Info Make Sense About Tyres.
Awesome explanation. Thanks a lot
This very very informative videos you make every day.. I would like to thanks to PD team who does hard work and sharing great info to us.😊👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Great video!! Clear cut & honest information. Loved it!! ❣️
Informative as always. Thank you Shumi sir!
When I bought my dominar 250 2months back, I was really eager to upsize the tyre to 110&150section as like its upper sibling the domi400.. but as days went by I really got used to the 130section tyre and now I really doubt whether it's worth spending that extra 10k money. I would better use that money for fuel and other expenses.
Buy same tyre with better compound, Metzeler, Pirelli, Michelin
Well when the tyre wears out, it's upto you if you want a tyre size up. Because the rim size and everything is same between the 250&400.
@@anchit44 yup .. its possible
The swingarm is both motorcycles different.. D400 aluminum nd D250 box type sing arm.. Buy same size tyre good brand Michelin, Metzler, pirelli. Etc..
@rajeshmb6745 My mt 15 front tyre is 100/80 and rear 140/70 both R17. What tyre would you recommend? Rear is radial
Loving this series!
Initially it was a bit harsh but afterwards he is actually right 👍👍 actual knowledge addition thanks man
Schumi 👏👏👏
Really simplified, no bakwaas!
Keep it rolling.
Cheers
1st of All.... Thanx for providing all the useful information about tyres.
My Question is.... Can a 150/70 R 17 Rear Tyre of Honda CB 350 RS be fitted in My Dominar 400 which has a stock 150/60 R 17 Rear Tyre ?
I want a higher side profile of the rear tyre.
Will it increase the ground clearance of the Dominar which is 157 mm with the stock tyre ?
Also please tell what good/bad effects will it have on the ride, handling & overall performance of my bike.
I'm sticking with the oem size on my M109. Thanks for your info. it help my buying decision.
Please make a video on effects of using different brand tyres on front and rear. Example: front metzeler tourance, rear michin anakee. And as always.. great video and information. Thanks Shumi and PD!
Straight to the point no nonsense 👍
Was thinking to go with 150/60 for my R15v4 which has 140 at rear. I've listened to people who done that with their v3..no negative feedback till now.
Once again, great, great and very comprehensive video.
Thank you for this helpful video.
Spot on. Tyres these days are so so good. Unless you are as skilled as MotoGP riders you can't extract performance from wider or expensive tyres. We'll be lucky to even extract 10% of that performance.
Great content and simplifying about upsizing tyres. Could you please give us the same kind of content for downsizing the tyres.
"That's why museums are for." 😜 nice play of words, Shumi Sir. 🥰🥰
Thanks for this video
Great video. I have a 120 in the front and a 160 in the rear of my 2023 Honda CB750 Hornet. I prefer the look of a 180, nevertheless the bike performs so well I don't want to compromise its integrity. Cheers. Mike.
You are just awesome shumi 🔥👍
Best of PD video. Same thing I told the my friends but they really don't care.
My r15 v2 comes with mrf zapper 90/80 17 front and 130/70 17 rear. So after 17000km of use i changed the tyre with MRF Masseater 90/90 17 front and 140/70 17 rear. Perfect Size for my bike better handling and breaking control than stock.. fully satisfied 💯✊💥
Good you didn't change the width on the front. 10mm increase in rear is alright.
@@premgajwani11 yes i did proper research and made my perfect decision.. and riding experience feedback is still 10 on 10 💯
@@HIGHONBIKE Do you recommend 140/70 17 for all motorcycles which have 130/70s as stock?
@@premgajwani11 yes ✌
2:59 Came here with this concern and I wanted to make sure of it.
I have a Bajaj Pulsar RS200. The stock tire sizes are 100/80 for the front and 130/70 for the back. I upsized 1 size for both tires (110 & 140) for "more stability and better cornering".
Noticed a decrease in fuel mileage and acceleration but I didn't care. However, I always noticed how the 140 tires always looked small on my bike, but noticeably bigger on other bikes with 250/300cc, until I inspected the rim width of my bike and compared it to theirs.
Turns out, the rim's horizontal width of my RS200 is noticeably less wide than other said 250/300cc motorcycles. That's when I knew that maybe I'm wasting my money and A LOT of potential power and acceleration in size that is basically going to waste, and it was only confirmed in this video. Thanks for the quality content.
Well I have CBR150R, width of back rim is 3.5" only & stock tire size is 130/70 which is skinny even for a small sportsbike.
Still I switched to 150/60 yesterday although it isn't that wide if attached to 4" rim width but it still looks better than 130/70.
Bike now handles better than stock tires tho. Sticks like glue to the road. Don't really care bout mpg etc. Lol.. At least I'm satisfied with my decision :)
@@amrmalik642
Hey man, thanks for stopping by.
Here's a little update:
I actually fitted a 130/70 rear tire and the acceleration and torque were crazy. The only catch? The top speed dropped hard. Used to get 150km/h before the redline with the bigger tire. Now it redlines at 140km/h. Also, I noticed that I was stuck at higher rpms more compared to when I had the bigger tire.
Also, the fuel mileage didn't change AT ALL lol.
Next thing I did was sell that 130 piece and fit a 140 one again. A 140 is probably the smallest good tire that can be fitted on a 150/200cc bike in my opinion.
@@asrdni Welcome! Might wanna change the sprocket too? lol.
Also do you wanna try 150/60 in the back? haha!
Btw my CBR150 engine only has 16hp (which is kinda weak lol). I just changed the rear sprocket size to 44T 2hrs ago, original was 45T. Front is 15T from the factory, changed it to 16T. Idk why I freakin' love taller gears.
BTW the 16-44 setup I have now is heaven! I don't mind if lose some acceleration or top speed, I just want the engine to "relax" at high speeds. Maybe I'll try the top speed later., kinda curious too with 150/60 tire and 44T setup 🤔
Great vid as always
That was very helpful thank you soo much pd
Excellent explanation
Hey Shumi, please make a video on retrofitting exhaust system in bikes and possible repercussions.
I was searching for this video
Boom and you uploaded ❤
Thank you veey much ❤💥
Softer tyres which can smoothens the ride should be choice
From my experience, one more demerit is that oversized tyres put a strain on the stock chain-sprocket. And one needs to replace the set more oftentimes.
What if I downgrade the size?
Again as every simplified videos teaches us to become a better rider with what u have...rather than complaining about things that u wish for.
BTW same goes with ur life as well. CHEERS!
My Svartpilen 250 has a rather chunky rear stock tyre but I wanted a better low end so I got the stock rear 42t sprocket swapped with a 47t and now it feels more alert
Right. Very relevant to this video
@@svr4922 l
@@svr4922 😂
I like a format which explicitly underlines
Both pros and cons
As usual well explained
Loved the video and the way he explained (last line was ❤️ -we buy motorcycles to ride them not to just look at them )
We need more of these episodes❤️❤️❤️
Ahh, this is the major topic for making the custom cafe racer and scrambler bikes.
mmp
Superb as always.
Very well explained 💯👌
This info make sense thanks man
3:42 nice tip imma go do it
Do a video on aftermarket exhausts
Couldn't have simplified it better ✌️
Is it alright to upsize by one size ? For my Yamaha YZF R3 I'm not being able to find any decent tyres for the stock 140/70 setup . So I'm having to get a 150/60 Apollo H1 alpha. Your advice would be highly appreciated.
Motorcycle manufacturer recommended tyre size is best for the bikes because they have r&d it a lot than us
For bullet electra owners there was always a default upsizing for the rear from 3.25 to 3.5 and I believe that was a good upgrade as it improved the grip and enhanced confidence
Hi Rahul. I have upgraded my bullet es rear tyre to MRF meteor 110/90/19. I feel I have lost the original comfort. Any inputs on this?
Hello sir, i just wanted know, is installing dual purpose tyre ideal on the motorcycle which has road tyres as stock. Say for eg duke 200. Will it effect the balance of the motorcycle?
Yep...this is more important than my work
Because motorcycles are importanter.
Yet another quality content shared. 🙌🙌🙌🙌 Awesome 👍👍👍
Hiiii PowerDrift....... Appreciate your efforts!!!!!!!
Front tyre upsize? Would 100 section front tyre make difference compared to 90 section?
Excellent video
One question Sir⁉️
Do we have to Accelerate when down shifting the gear for smother way⁉️⁉️
Next video on best tyres in market ✌️
My CBR 150r came with tvs tyres which were trash, the stock size was 100/80-17 and 130/70-17. Since there were no good radial tyres at these sizes especially the front, i had to upsize them by 10mm. (110/60-17, 140/70-17) Have been running michelin pilot street radials since then. Recently replaced them with apollo alpha h1. I do have to lean them a bit more, but the bike feels better than ever before, top speed in each gear increased a bit too.
But you dont get alpha H1 in 140 section, if you put 140, are those alpha s1?
Hi Schumi, you could want to touch on what an oversized tyre will do to the ABS system and traction/wheelie control .
My favorite series in current is the PDS
Oh yeah! Thank you Rahul! We hope you have hit that Like button!
Glad that PD had bought Very important aspects of motorcycling to the forum, I don't know how many of us watch Moto3 (250 cc) racing and check out it's tyre size and mind you it is capable to hit almost 220kmph and the tyre size probably thinner than what mfgs are giving right now in India for same capacity of Motorcycle . Meanwhile most important thing to choose the right compound and grip pattern for road / track use . Michelin, Metzeler or Pirelli offers slightly softer compound for road use. 99% of time mfgs are giving optimum tyre size.
Hey..! Shumi i have a FZ v1. Recently i replaced my stock rear section tyre which was 140/60 to 140/70. What about changes in tyre hight...? The only difference i noticed it increases my motorcycle's ground clearance.
Please make one video about changing exhaust also please.
Like always you r the best
Love from Uttarakhand Haldwani (Nainital) ❤️❤️❤️❤️🥺🥺
Much love, Anant!
thanks sir, u r d best one
Love your sarcasm 😂
What about undersizing
people laughing on F250's 130 tyre
this video is for you
Well said.
To add to it
Tyre Rubber quality has more impact than size.
So invest in better rubber rather than just oversizing.
Just the perfect information
Glad you think so!
@@powerdriftofficial So far whatever I have learnt is keep you bike as much stock as you can, cz we won't be able to out perform the stock machine so easily.
What are Shine front tyre upsize options?, looking for better grip. Thanks
Change rear tyre of shine sp by one size and you wont regrete it.
Top shelf video
Make a video on pillion riding , please
Having doubt abt wheelbase whats the right amount of wheel base for the right purpose of bikes???
Hi . I own an Interceptor 650 and that comes with 18 inch tyres ,both front and the rear.Even though RE has brought 18” inch alloys to the new models l would like to go for 17” wheels. There are few people who have used the 17” wheel of the Meteor on the rear ( direct fit and no mods required) and Dominar’s alloy wheel on the front( with certain modifications). Can you please suggest if this is a good idea?
Good information from powerdrift as always🤟🤟🤟❤️❤️❤️
Thanks a ton Kesavdas!
Shumi, please make a video on chasis type, benefits etc and how it translates to rider in terms of feedback. One area I have not understood well
Shumi what about going to a round profile tyre from a square profile within same section say 110, will it improve feel/feedback in corners?
Is it ok to change the front 100 section tyre to 110 section on Gixxer 150??
Very nice information good thank you🙂
Hi PD, I own FZS v3 150cc which runs on thicker 100 & 140 section tyres. I am curious to know if i could downsize to thinner ones and what difference will it make as it is underpowered bike?
See. That's how simple it is! 👌👌
Exactly