I was testing one with the 450 last spring and at about 25 hours it really loosened up and was able to pull 92.9mph before turning her back in. Not Bullet fast, but it is also a much bigger, more comfortable boat too.
@@gwagb27 I doubt it that hull design struggles push over 90 with 450r. Ballistic 223 same length and beam does 92 with 300r, With 5 blade clever it almost does 100mph
@@5.7hemi79 yessir 1980 15 Evinrude I love old 2 strokes hasn't gave me a problem and Runs strong! 26.4 mph was my fastest! Nothing done with Boat or nothing all stock with my gear
Great looking and running Cats. Very nice video that has actual real use information about the performance. Looks sweet running. I know what a nice running bass boat looks like, I have a bullet.
Holy moly, thats one hell of a boat, I have a 80's17 foot alumacraft with a 402 merc, tops at about 24 with 4 people and fishing gear, it is a good first boat though.
@@andrewdavies9237 Would love to bring you to Neptune, and I will show you the roughest water....don't forget you have to be fully vaccinated to travel here!
@@boogerwelder Yep I imagine not on that heavy beast. But in regards to the Bullet the OP was speaking of, (I'm speaking of the 20XD Bullet), they did!
@@nickfountain8420 My 20XD Bullet with my Mercury 225 sports XS with sportsmaster lower unit does 84 gps, I’m not joking! I can cruise with out airing everything out hydraulic jack plate trim etc at 75
Nothing better than pulling up to one of these boats with a super charged PWC and walking away from them at 1/3 the cost. As to ride, my Cobalt is so smooth it appears the bow doesn’t move in videos on white cap days. You can clearly see chine walking in these videos.
I assume theres LOTS of room for more speed with getting it dialed in (props, engine height, setback). Darn good numbers for a heavy bassboat on a new powerhead! everyone here seems to think this is "all" it has LOL.
@@rossmotorsports2206 you bet. a low water pickup and 29'' SRX or Mazco round-ear chopper might be your ticket, but of course this isn't a race setup. enjoy and congrats!
Many tournament trails around East Texas do not have a HP restriction for their tournaments. You will more commonly see HP restrictions in your much larger tournaments!
Bullets on the Chicamauga run in the mid 80's with 250 Yammies. I would expect that 400 would be a mid 90's boat possibly a hundo. I know Bass Cats aren't known for speed haul but damn 400hp??
Very nice boats and running good, i thought there would be a bit bigger difference between them. One thing i have to ask and it is not regarding you guys specifically. When you are talking boat speeds (mph) is that car mph or is it "knots" (i meen nautical miles per hour) like we do in the rest of the world when one talks about boat speed and i guess air speed. This is something i always wondering when i´m looking at all these boat movie clips, it´s just so i know, so i can recalculate to nm/h or knots which is the only measurement we use in Scandinavia and the rest of Europe when it comes to boat speed. Plus it is far more impressing if it is 83 knots, and and that was around my guess of the Jaguars speed but with the Merc 450R. Really i do not dissing the boat, i love the Bass cat and the Jaguar is the model that would suit the bigger waters i often fish in, but it is a very big investment so i think i´d have to settle for like a 300 Merc if i ever get the funds to import one. Keep on making great movie clips guys! Greetings from Sweden!
We use miles per hour as a standard to measure distance over time, or speed! We always can use knots but not everyone understands the difference and or conversion.
Talking about stability, how are the Bass Cat’s stability with bigger guy’s? Im 6’-6” 375 LBS and wonder how the ride would be with me only in the boat, would the boats lean or sag much to the driver’s side? Or how would the stability be with me in the front casting deck, standing on the sides casting?
Gorgeous boats but I'm kind of under impressed by the speeds. My 88 Ranger 374V with a 150hp, 27p prop on it hits 64mph by myself with a tournament load. I ran into ventilation issues with the prop when carrying 2 people so I dropped to a 23p prop and top out at 59mph with 2 people with a tournament load. I'm lookin for a new boat and saw this video but I gotta say, with a 250hp only hittin like 67mph is super disappointing to me. I'm sure it's the weight difference from my smaller 18ft boat to these but I guess I'd rather stay with a 18ft boat that will burn 6 gallons of gas on a tournament day and only lose a few mph to these brand new boats. Anyone know if mid 60's is normal for a 250hp with a 20-21ft boat? Can't believe 100hp more would only get me like 6-7mph more and I'm sure would burn through way more gas. Thanks.
I seriously doubt your Ranger does 64. I have a 90 361V with a 150 Mariner magnum 2 with the small lower unit and mine MIGHT hit 54 if I don't eat breakfast that morning.
@@brandonhebert5485 lmfao. Well it doesn't matter what you doubt or believe...check out my youtube video...I believe it's my 2nd video that shows me on GPS doing 58mph with my current 23p prop and as you can see in my videos I'm a big guy, doubt you're bigger than me so your boat has issues then or mine is just super awesome. Now I realize that's not 64mph but you can see my boat doing 58mph while being a few hundred rpms under WOT with my current 23p prop...not the 27p when my boat would hit 64mph. If I had a hydraulic jack plate I'd go back to the 27p to get back up to 64mph. I can hit 60mph on a glass surface WOT with her trimmed up on my 23p, next time I'm out on glass I'll make sure to get WOT on GPS and hit 60mph for you and video it. I'm out every week but the lake i fish is rarely glass but anyone can figure out if I'm hittin 60mph with a 23p I can hit 64mph with a 27p. I just had to get rid of the 27p prop due to ventilation/cavitation issues on the hole shot like I said when I'd get a 2nd person with all their gear in the boat. I'll find the video and reply to this reply with the time and link of 58mph.
@@brandonhebert5485 Yup, my 2nd video 20 seconds in...like I said I wasn't trying to prove I could hit 60mph on a 23p I just thought the speedometer on my video was cool so I threw it on there. You have issues with your boat if you're only goin 54mph. czcams.com/video/hszAPN_658g/video.html
Man, I can get 68 mph on mines with 2 guys at 220 lbs plus, full tournament load, 5 31series agm batteries, and full tank. This is on my heavy astro 19ft with a 175hp xri
I was thinking it was a 21 and was a little disappointed with the speed. I just got one of the older 21 foot tritons with a 225 Merc EFI and it hits 73 with a 4 blade fury. The same setup is supposed to do around 75 fully loaded or 78 light loaded with a tempest. But with my 4 blade fury it gets out of the hole faster than my skeeter zx185 with a 175 Yamaha did
I used to have a 21' triton with a mercury racing 250 that would push 80 fully loaded with 2 people and with one passanger with a lighter load I had it up to 85. Those older tritons sure do like to chine walk until you learn it.
@@masonkaye5 I have a 00 model tr20 with 200 opti that I’ve gotten 70 out of. Not really sure how much more I could get. But I only try it on special occasions
I think both of those are fantastic. Bigger engines to make it more fun but I don't know of any fishing tournaments that allow anything bigger than the 250. I could be wrong I don't know the rules for every tournament that's out there. Also there's got to be something different in the way they make the boat with the bigger engine. Every boat has a coast guard sticker that tells you horsepower ratings and weight limits and I don't see how a boat with a 250 that used to have a horsepower maximum of 300 is now a maximum of 400 but nothing within the frame or shape of the boat changed? I did enjoy the videos do not get me wrong it's just I have questions on how they can say both boats are the same. The only way that I know of that you can do that is to have an x in the serial number and that would stand for experimental and then you don't have to go by the Coast guard rating. Up until a few weeks ago I was getting ready to order another Ranger boat. All I'm waiting on is doctor's approval so I know if I can travel fishing or have to stay close to home for treatment. My friends know I'm itching to get back on the water and one of them sent me information on this exact boat. After doing research and reading up on it I honestly believe this will be my next boat when I'm able to get back out there. I'm still thinking to go ahead and pull the trigger and just stay in my home waters of the Chesapeake. As anyone who lives in this area who has ever fished in this area know for a fact there's a lot of places for bass fishing on the Chesapeake. We even have a few pretty good lakes nothing's spectacular but good enough to be able to spend a few hours out if I could and still be close to home. Thanks for giving out all the information on these two boats for this evening more videos on both of them.
@@jacoblovell748 nothing us off, the boat has not been fully broken in in this video. Bass Cat and Mercury fully expect this boat to be a high 80s low 90s boat.
Challenge accepted my friend! The boat has not been fully broken in in this video. Bass Cat and Mercury fully expect this boat to be a high 80s low 90s boat.
I truly feel that the jag w a 450 should run upwards of 100mph my Phoenix 21’6 inch with a 250 sho run about 72-74 tournament 2 people possibly not enough break in ?
after the break in period of the 400hp Merc Verado you see a increase in speed. Bass Cat and Mercury have both said this will be a high 80s low 90s boat.
@@rossmotorsports2206 Don’t believe them, it’s cause that boat is big and heavy like the motor, but your boat is a awesome boat! I actually like all the brands, I’ve actually bought a brand new Bass Cat, it was my first boat at 19 years old! I own my 20ft Bullet w 225 XS and my 18ft Ranger w 150 Optimax! I also owned a Skeeter, I don’t like the waySkeeters look now, back in the 80s and 90s they were bad ass and had their own bad ass look!
WOW 🤩 beautiful and SEXY boat..... 😃 awesome colors . Now that’s a RUSH . That Cat got attitude guys....... I’m going to say after fully breaking in 88.2 mph all day long..... and also beautiful stance on full top end..... Nice job guys 👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌👀👀👀👀😍😍😍😍 I am lost for anymore words
If your going to go 400R might as well go 450R and let her fly...Anything over 20ft is unlimited HP. Basscat is typically a fast hull, set up must not have been far enough back and propped wrong..easily should have been in 90s
No boat brand can keep up with the Phoenix’s. Fastest I’ve had my 920 with a 2 stroke merc 250 is 83, and 77 with a full tournament load, 3 people, full gas, and full live wells
Was gonna say the same man among the big names in bass fishing like Skeeter, ranger, nitro, triton, Phoenix, Phoenix has em all beat right now ofc you’ll have the Allison’s and bullets but they don’t ride half as good and the fishabiliry in them is no where near
I thought that 400 would be a lot faster! My 2014 ranger z521 loaded by myself full of fuel 50 gallons will do 71 mph all day long. Was thinking about getting a cat not sure now. I’ll subscribe to ur channel and see if u can sell me on this rig some more. Mine is a 2014 evinrude e tech
After talking with Bass Cat as well as Mercury and we got the same message back from both companies! After the break in period the motor will loosen up and we fully expect to see an additional 3 to 5 mph out of the boat! We have already seen 86 out of this boat from the owner and with a skilled driver and good conditions we will see high 80s out of thus boat! If you have any more questions please feel free to give Andrew Y’Barbo our #1 Bass Cat sales men a call! (936)-465-5551
@@peteuk1988 I don’t doubt any of the numbers, this boat weighs over 1000 pounds more than my 20ft Bullet, and the motor weighs at least 150 to 200 pounds more than my 225! It’s all heavy!
This is the single most stable riding boat any of us at Ross Motorsports have ever been in. In the video with we get into flyby runs you can see the boat hit a boat weak at a 45 degree angle and it never skipped a beat. Any boat hitting a wake surfing or cabin cruiser wake can be ejected at any speed over idol. So yes you would be in for a bumpy ride but those are not normal conditions.
83mph with a 400 racing that boat has to weigh 3000lbs my old girl with 1 225 Pro XS 89MPH on gps full load two anglers oh I forgot to mention it was a competition haul Bullet 20XD
Don’t get me wrong this boat looks really good, but the designs for the actual hull just look extremely dated. Another thing is that these boats are so heavy that you need to spend over 15k in motor just to have it run 80.
after the break in period of the 400hp Merc Verado you see a increase in speed. Bass Cat and Mercury have both said this will be a high 80s low 90s boat. The Jaguar with the 450hp Mercury has an unknown top speed.
Yeah it looks like a very nice boat but my question is can you catch a fish going 80 miles an hour most of y’all would rather play with your toys then fish anyway
would totally get a fast as fuck bass boat. if i didnt live close to lake erie and have multi 9.9 restricted lakes near me. walleye boats are really my only choice
I fish Bfl’s been in about every well known bass boat around and I always seen a certain cat I absolutely loved the looks of of well I ended up getting drawn to fish with the guy and I’m here to tell ya the worst riding boat I’ve ever been I’ve never actually hurt in a bass boat but about mid day I was askin him could he take it easy hate those boats
The ride of any boat is also dependent on the driver. These are high performance boats that have a learning curve. Jumping into a Bass Cat with out some direction on how to drive them to lead to poor performance! Give us a call at (936)-465-5551 so we can clear the air on how these boats really ride! Thank you.
I've gotten old enough that a better ride and 75 works for me....having said that, I'd like to just see what a 300xs on the back of my 21hp would do. Great video guys!
I also own a 18ft Ranger with a 150 Optimax, I bought brand new in 08, only has 32 hours and mint! The gel coat is cracking I’m 😡 about it! What quality ? My mint 08 Bullet has zero cracking! My Ranger is also wider than my Bullet, and my Ranger rides like shit compared to my Bullet! Rangers 👎
60 to 80 mph max with a 400? really? my allison does that with a L6 tower of power 150 with carbs and a old distributor ignition system. sounds like these new 400 really has 200 at the prop from your performance tests.
We used GoPros that have a wide view setting. This causes 1) a better view of the surroundings, 2) exaggerated movements. We are definitely taking all of this into consideration and taking note for future videos. I can personally say after riding in that boat all day that it is hands down the best rough water riding boat on the market! Even better than a Champion 210!! Give Andrew Y’Barbo a call if you have any other questions! (936)-465-5551
83 miles per hour with a 400 doesn't seem as fast as I would have expected. That is fast but I expected more.
I was testing one with the 450 last spring and at about 25 hours it really loosened up and was able to pull 92.9mph before turning her back in. Not Bullet fast, but it is also a much bigger, more comfortable boat too.
I was told with a more aggressive prop, they’ll do 100
@@gwagb27 I doubt it that hull design struggles push over 90 with 450r. Ballistic 223 same length and beam does 92 with 300r, With 5 blade clever it almost does 100mph
I think the Gambler is a faster boat
@@smokinbutts2 Bullet, Alison, and War Eagle
Well, if you can't catch any fish, at least you can outrun them.
83 mph, let off the throttle... 5 minutes later... 68mph. lol, Awesome video! That 400 is a face peeler.
try 99.8 fully loaded that'll make you grab the rails haha
Very nice boats but 83mph for a 400hp motor seems weak.
Damn it, nobody’s gonna say it, it’s because it’s heavy, the boat and the motor are heavy!
Yeah this is a heavy 22ft boat. Little different animal when rigged with the 450R
@@Basscater81 yea its a big boat for sure. I still wouldve thought it couldve gone faster. 83mph would still scare me on the water lol
I Like My 14 foot flatbottom with my 15 evinrude it runs 25 and takes rough water good so I am happy with it 😁
That's actually pretty fast. My boat is an xpress 1546 with a 25 Yamaha 2 stroke and it runs 28 empty running downcurrent.
@@5.7hemi79 25 mph 26 mph depends on how I am loaded matter of fact going this weekend
@@jeremiahbrumble3082 That's really good for a 15 hp. It's a 2 stroke right?
@@5.7hemi79 yessir 1980 15 Evinrude I love old 2 strokes hasn't gave me a problem and Runs strong! 26.4 mph was my fastest! Nothing done with Boat or nothing all stock with my gear
@@jeremiahbrumble3082 Nice!
nice ride !.....my 191 Champion DCB,200 Merc EFI...77 mph...thats certified
Great looking and running Cats. Very nice video that has actual real use information about the performance. Looks sweet running. I know what a nice running bass boat looks like, I have a bullet.
How do you like your bullet
@@jackwilliams8272 we got a bullet 20xd with a 285 racing motor and it runs 99.8 on gps fully loaded its scary fast haha
One floating log and your history
My alli goes 96 with 10 foot poles/force/ two livescopes and I’m just learning how to drive it.
Bass cats are great boats .
Top speed of 83 is pretty sad for a 400
Yes, it is
If you wanna go fast in a bass boat by a bullet end of story. I'll get on some day
@@jabberm249m4 nah gambler all day for me
Not when a boat weighs 5000 lbs
Bullet Allison Norris craft with a 250 would scare the hell outta them lol
Holy moly, thats one hell of a boat, I have a 80's17 foot alumacraft with a 402 merc, tops at about 24 with 4 people and fishing gear, it is a good first boat though.
I had my my old cougar ftd with the 250 XB RUNNING AT 83.14 MPH ON THE GPS WITH FULL GEAR AND LIVE WELLS FULL. NO EXAGGERATION
BCs are awesome boats.
Allison, if you really want to go fast comfortably, even in rough water.
Would love to see you bring these up to the St. Lawrence river and Lake Ontario...we'll show you what rough water is
Yes. It’s like the ocean at times.
Would love to bring you out to the Columbia river bar and the pacific ocean.. I'll show you what rough water is
@@andrewdavies9237 Would love to bring you to Neptune, and I will show you the roughest water....don't forget you have to be fully vaccinated to travel here!
@@nicks1137 Hahahaha you're hilarious
That's just mental, only 18 inches of keel in the water, the rest is all on prop. So much power.
Very good video my friend. Regretting my buddy convinced me to get a Charger, when I already had my Bass Cat picked out.
Beautiful boats. Not in the Allison or Bullet category but very nice. Rick and Ron ( before he passed) great guys. Quality builds.
Great work. Thanks. Wish every manufacturer would do a vid like this. Others boring
WOW !!! Awesome boat, totally enjoyed the video !!
I wanna see that 400 on a bullet boat. Those did 100mph with a 300
And a Gambler
They'd hit 110 with a Merc 2.5 offshore 2 stroke 25 years ago! And people want 4 strokes 🤣🤣
@@nickfountain8420 not on a 22' bass boat that weighs as much as a small truck they didn't .
@@boogerwelder Yep I imagine not on that heavy beast. But in regards to the Bullet the OP was speaking of, (I'm speaking of the 20XD Bullet), they did!
@@nickfountain8420 My 20XD Bullet with my Mercury 225 sports XS with sportsmaster lower unit does 84 gps, I’m not joking! I can cruise with out airing everything out hydraulic jack plate trim etc at 75
Good choice of music...😊 Mercury has come out with a 600 HP V12 outboard. I wonder how long it will be before Basscat puts one of them on a boat.
I’m sure Bass Cats coming out with a 25ft bass boat with the 600hp motor! That would be nuts!
Jimmy Cline and enough room in the boat to mount six 15” graphs! They prob spend more time jacking with the electronics than actually fishing.
Egggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggslent !! Thanx for sharing. I Love Love Love this boat. Hope to purchase one this year.
Nothing better than pulling up to one of these boats with a super charged PWC and walking away from them at 1/3 the cost. As to ride, my Cobalt is so smooth it appears the bow doesn’t
move in videos on white cap days. You can clearly see chine walking in these videos.
You're passing all the fish.
holy crap!... the topic should be about the clarity of that camera! what is it? that aint no gopro
Gopro hero 8😎
I assume theres LOTS of room for more speed with getting it dialed in (props, engine height, setback). Darn good numbers for a heavy bassboat on a new powerhead! everyone here seems to think this is "all" it has LOL.
Thank you for your input and compliments. There is no doubt this boat has more in her.
@@rossmotorsports2206 you bet. a low water pickup and 29'' SRX or Mazco round-ear chopper might be your ticket, but of course this isn't a race setup. enjoy and congrats!
I like the boat. This is a large investment. What tournament league will allow this boat to participate? I always see the 250 HP max.
Most tours allow 300's
Many tournament trails around East Texas do not have a HP restriction for their tournaments. You will more commonly see HP restrictions in your much larger tournaments!
Bullets on the Chicamauga run in the mid 80's with 250 Yammies. I would expect that 400 would be a mid 90's boat possibly a hundo. I know Bass Cats aren't known for speed haul but damn 400hp??
It’s a huge, wide boat. Not a bullet or Allison
All torque
Great video - Thanks guys.
Very nice boats and running good, i thought there would be a bit bigger difference between them. One thing i have to ask and it is not regarding you guys specifically. When you are talking boat speeds (mph) is that car mph or is it "knots" (i meen nautical miles per hour) like we do in the rest of the world when one talks about boat speed and i guess air speed. This is something i always wondering when i´m looking at all these boat movie clips, it´s just so i know, so i can recalculate to nm/h or knots which is the only measurement we use in Scandinavia and the rest of Europe when it comes to boat speed. Plus it is far more impressing if it is 83 knots, and and that was around my guess of the Jaguars speed but with the Merc 450R. Really i do not dissing the boat, i love the Bass cat and the Jaguar is the model that would suit the bigger waters i often fish in, but it is a very big investment so i think i´d have to settle for like a 300 Merc if i ever get the funds to import one. Keep on making great movie clips guys! Greetings from Sweden!
Gps=mph like a car
We use miles per hour as a standard to measure distance over time, or speed! We always can use knots but not everyone understands the difference and or conversion.
Bad ass! Great video
That boat is my dream boat, wish I had that kind of money to buy one
How much are they ?
@@osvaldogonzalez5095 with a 400 Verado over $100,000
My 18 ft procraft will run 68 with a 150
In South Africa we got plenty of bass boats with mercurys between 350 and 450
Cause y’all all rich
@@trentonclark9747 🤣🤣 na dude its not that easy here
Can't afford these .. but great video.
Skip to about 6:30 and avoid all the boredom. You’re welcome!
Dream boat🥵
Talking about stability, how are the Bass Cat’s stability with bigger guy’s? Im 6’-6” 375 LBS and wonder how the ride would be with me only in the boat, would the boats lean or sag much to the driver’s side? Or how would the stability be with me in the front casting deck, standing on the sides casting?
My 2000 Stratos 22 SS extreme with a 225 Evinrude 25 pitch Renegade SS prop Tournament Loaded and just me runs 70 mph GPS. JS
What is the slowest the boat can ride while staying on plane??
I love the boat, can an air ride seat be put in?
Had a Stratos 201 pro 21 ft 200hp Evenrude. It would do 70 all day long with 2 people.
Gorgeous boats but I'm kind of under impressed by the speeds. My 88 Ranger 374V with a 150hp, 27p prop on it hits 64mph by myself with a tournament load. I ran into ventilation issues with the prop when carrying 2 people so I dropped to a 23p prop and top out at 59mph with 2 people with a tournament load. I'm lookin for a new boat and saw this video but I gotta say, with a 250hp only hittin like 67mph is super disappointing to me. I'm sure it's the weight difference from my smaller 18ft boat to these but I guess I'd rather stay with a 18ft boat that will burn 6 gallons of gas on a tournament day and only lose a few mph to these brand new boats. Anyone know if mid 60's is normal for a 250hp with a 20-21ft boat? Can't believe 100hp more would only get me like 6-7mph more and I'm sure would burn through way more gas. Thanks.
I seriously doubt your Ranger does 64. I have a 90 361V with a 150 Mariner magnum 2 with the small lower unit and mine MIGHT hit 54 if I don't eat breakfast that morning.
@@brandonhebert5485 lmfao. Well it doesn't matter what you doubt or believe...check out my youtube video...I believe it's my 2nd video that shows me on GPS doing 58mph with my current 23p prop and as you can see in my videos I'm a big guy, doubt you're bigger than me so your boat has issues then or mine is just super awesome. Now I realize that's not 64mph but you can see my boat doing 58mph while being a few hundred rpms under WOT with my current 23p prop...not the 27p when my boat would hit 64mph. If I had a hydraulic jack plate I'd go back to the 27p to get back up to 64mph. I can hit 60mph on a glass surface WOT with her trimmed up on my 23p, next time I'm out on glass I'll make sure to get WOT on GPS and hit 60mph for you and video it. I'm out every week but the lake i fish is rarely glass but anyone can figure out if I'm hittin 60mph with a 23p I can hit 64mph with a 27p. I just had to get rid of the 27p prop due to ventilation/cavitation issues on the hole shot like I said when I'd get a 2nd person with all their gear in the boat. I'll find the video and reply to this reply with the time and link of 58mph.
@@brandonhebert5485 Yup, my 2nd video 20 seconds in...like I said I wasn't trying to prove I could hit 60mph on a 23p I just thought the speedometer on my video was cool so I threw it on there. You have issues with your boat if you're only goin 54mph. czcams.com/video/hszAPN_658g/video.html
How much more do you have to pay to be able to go another 16 mph?
Man, I can get 68 mph on mines with 2 guys at 220 lbs plus, full tournament load, 5 31series agm batteries, and full tank. This is on my heavy astro 19ft with a 175hp xri
That's a fish tale if I ever heard it
I’m calling bull shit on this one!
Your probably going by that ancient speedo, now use your I phone, your actually doing 45mph! 😂
@Jerry Thao …. Probably 68 on your Speedo. Lmao
Excellent video!
I was thinking it was a 21 and was a little disappointed with the speed. I just got one of the older 21 foot tritons with a 225 Merc EFI and it hits 73 with a 4 blade fury. The same setup is supposed to do around 75 fully loaded or 78 light loaded with a tempest. But with my 4 blade fury it gets out of the hole faster than my skeeter zx185 with a 175 Yamaha did
the boat has not been fully broken in in this video. Bass Cat and Mercury fully expect this boat to be a high 80s low 90s boat.
I used to have a 21' triton with a mercury racing 250 that would push 80 fully loaded with 2 people and with one passanger with a lighter load I had it up to 85. Those older tritons sure do like to chine walk until you learn it.
@@masonkaye5 I have a 00 model tr20 with 200 opti that I’ve gotten 70 out of. Not really sure how much more I could get. But I only try it on special occasions
I think both of those are fantastic. Bigger engines to make it more fun but I don't know of any fishing tournaments that allow anything bigger than the 250. I could be wrong I don't know the rules for every tournament that's out there. Also there's got to be something different in the way they make the boat with the bigger engine. Every boat has a coast guard sticker that tells you horsepower ratings and weight limits and I don't see how a boat with a 250 that used to have a horsepower maximum of 300 is now a maximum of 400 but nothing within the frame or shape of the boat changed?
I did enjoy the videos do not get me wrong it's just I have questions on how they can say both boats are the same. The only way that I know of that you can do that is to have an x in the serial number and that would stand for experimental and then you don't have to go by the Coast guard rating.
Up until a few weeks ago I was getting ready to order another Ranger boat. All I'm waiting on is doctor's approval so I know if I can travel fishing or have to stay close to home for treatment. My friends know I'm itching to get back on the water and one of them sent me information on this exact boat. After doing research and reading up on it I honestly believe this will be my next boat when I'm able to get back out there. I'm still thinking to go ahead and pull the trigger and just stay in my home waters of the Chesapeake. As anyone who lives in this area who has ever fished in this area know for a fact there's a lot of places for bass fishing on the Chesapeake. We even have a few pretty good lakes nothing's spectacular but good enough to be able to spend a few hours out if I could and still be close to home.
Thanks for giving out all the information on these two boats for this evening more videos on both of them.
I’d love to see how much freeboard the stern has full of fuel and someone fishing back there
better hope the bilge pumps work!!
Bass Cat ride puts Ranger to shame.Ive owned and ran both.
My 20ft Bullet with 225 Mercury sports XS sportmaster lower unit, 84mph I think I can beat your 400R
You would drive off and leave it
that's what confuses me, I know multiple sub-250 hp motored boats thatll beat 82. somethings off with this setup
@@jacoblovell748 nothing us off, the boat has not been fully broken in in this video. Bass Cat and Mercury fully expect this boat to be a high 80s low 90s boat.
Challenge accepted my friend! The boat has not been fully broken in in this video. Bass Cat and Mercury fully expect this boat to be a high 80s low 90s boat.
we got a bullet 20xd with a 285 racing motor and it runs 99.8 on gps fully loaded, there's always someone faster haha
Nice boat and it could be the camera but it kind a looks like you’re getting tossed around a little bit there
we used GoPro Hero 8 series cameras for the in the boat running shots. the always tent to show more movement than there really is!
I truly feel that the jag w a 450 should run upwards of 100mph my Phoenix 21’6 inch with a 250 sho run about 72-74 tournament 2 people possibly not enough break in ?
Its a 400 but yea
At that speed i bet its hard for the graphs to view the bass that your passing?
Wow, I expected close to 80 on the other rig.
after the break in period of the 400hp Merc Verado you see a increase in speed. Bass Cat and Mercury have both said this will be a high 80s low 90s boat.
@@rossmotorsports2206 Don’t believe them, it’s cause that boat is big and heavy like the motor, but your boat is a awesome boat! I actually like all the brands, I’ve actually bought a brand new Bass Cat, it was my first boat at 19 years old! I own my 20ft Bullet w 225 XS and my 18ft Ranger w 150 Optimax! I also owned a Skeeter, I don’t like the waySkeeters look now, back in the 80s and 90s they were bad ass and had their own bad ass look!
WOW 🤩 beautiful and SEXY boat..... 😃 awesome colors . Now that’s a RUSH . That Cat got attitude guys....... I’m going to say after fully breaking in 88.2 mph all day long..... and also beautiful stance on full top end..... Nice job guys 👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌👀👀👀👀😍😍😍😍 I am lost for anymore words
I want!!!! 🤤
That thing looks badddd
7:22 Look mom, no hands!! 8:25 What is top sleed?
If your going to go 400R might as well go 450R and let her fly...Anything over 20ft is unlimited HP. Basscat is typically a fast hull, set up must not have been far enough back and propped wrong..easily should have been in 90s
My 20ft Bullet is unlimited , it would be very scary putting a 450r on it! Would I ? Yes 👍, but way too expensive!
Are they fishing or racing
What prop on the 400?
That big old motor needs a max 5 st or a clever!
Video stats at 2:00
No boat brand can keep up with the Phoenix’s. Fastest I’ve had my 920 with a 2 stroke merc 250 is 83, and 77 with a full tournament load, 3 people, full gas, and full live wells
Bullet
@@fbi1069 i was gonna say Allison or Bullet. they did over 86mph in an Allison back in the early 90's with a 150 looper Evinrude!
My 21xd bullet with same motor tournament load and two guys will walk away from that Phoenix pal.
I have a stroker boat with a 300 six cylinder two cycle it will out run this boat.jeff from k.c.
Was gonna say the same man among the big names in bass fishing like Skeeter, ranger, nitro, triton, Phoenix, Phoenix has em all beat right now ofc you’ll have the Allison’s and bullets but they don’t ride half as good and the fishabiliry in them is no where near
I thought that 400 would be a lot faster! My 2014 ranger z521 loaded by myself full of fuel 50 gallons will do 71 mph all day long. Was thinking about getting a cat not sure now. I’ll subscribe to ur channel and see if u can sell me on this rig some more. Mine is a 2014 evinrude e tech
I completely agree.... I was thinking it would be a lot faster too. Not impressed. My old 929 loaded runs 71 with a 250 pro xs and it ain't light
Doubt your numbers, I just saying.
Seeing is believing. Come on up for a ride. No charge
After talking with Bass Cat as well as Mercury and we got the same message back from both companies! After the break in period the motor will loosen up and we fully expect to see an additional 3 to 5 mph out of the boat! We have already seen 86 out of this boat from the owner and with a skilled driver and good conditions we will see high 80s out of thus boat! If you have any more questions please feel free to give Andrew Y’Barbo our #1 Bass Cat sales men a call! (936)-465-5551
@@peteuk1988 I don’t doubt any of the numbers, this boat weighs over 1000 pounds more than my 20ft Bullet, and the motor weighs at least 150 to 200 pounds more than my 225! It’s all heavy!
150hp more for 10-15mph gain???
What am I missing here? I thought the cats were a mid 70mph boat.
i think it's because it's a 22 footer.
I get that, but an extra foot shouldn't be a huge difference, 150hp is alot of power, i was expecting high 80's to low 90's.
Something is off here.
@@mikesaelee834 yeah i'm not paying 100k for that when you can get a bullet with a 250 that goes near 100
it weighs 2250 lbs 22ft. other boats are in the 1750-1950 lb range
@@mikesaelee834 but your not going to take a bullet out on the Great Lakes like you could with this Jaguar.
Wait until you hit a wakesurfers wake in this going 80. You wont be around much longer after that!
This is the single most stable riding boat any of us at Ross Motorsports have ever been in. In the video with we get into flyby runs you can see the boat hit a boat weak at a 45 degree angle and it never skipped a beat. Any boat hitting a wake surfing or cabin cruiser wake can be ejected at any speed over idol. So yes you would be in for a bumpy ride but those are not normal conditions.
I’m sorry but 83 is weak! My Phoenix 721 runs 85.6 with 300xs turning a 27 Fury, and runs 79-80 all day loaded with a 28.5 Bravo…
83mph with a 400 racing that boat has to weigh 3000lbs my old girl with 1 225 Pro XS 89MPH on gps full load two anglers oh I forgot to mention it was a competition haul Bullet 20XD
we got a bullet 20xd with a 285 racing motor and it runs 99.8 on gps its scary fast haha
The motorcycle helmet 😂😂
Don’t get me wrong this boat looks really good, but the designs for the actual hull just look extremely dated. Another thing is that these boats are so heavy that you need to spend over 15k in motor just to have it run 80.
The boat has bow lift just sitting there, it sits in the water like a cork. Not good
That’s how all 20ft and up bass boats sit! Low in back, higher in front, just sitting in water!
you need a better set up this should be a 100 + boat
after the break in period of the 400hp Merc Verado you see a increase in speed. Bass Cat and Mercury have both said this will be a high 80s low 90s boat.
The Jaguar with the 450hp Mercury has an unknown top speed.
bullet boats are where the speed comes in haha we got a bullet 20xd with a 285 racing motor and it runs 99.8 on gps fully loaded its scary fast haha
My center console is almost as fast, what gives with so much power and only 83 on a BASS BOAT?!
Note to self, don't buy a Bass Cat if you want to go fast.
That thing at rest is motor heavy
6:50
Yeah it looks like a very nice boat but my question is can you catch a fish going 80 miles an hour most of y’all would rather play with your toys then fish anyway
yup, you cant fish at 80mph, its all about , hey look at me shit
Stupid comment!
Can you catch a fish a fish at 40mph? 20? Its not built for guys like you then 😆
would totally get a fast as fuck bass boat. if i didnt live close to lake erie and have multi 9.9 restricted lakes near me. walleye boats are really my only choice
400hp and only 83. A Ballistic will run over 100 with a 400
Apples to oranges
I fish Bfl’s been in about every well known bass boat around and I always seen a certain cat I absolutely loved the looks of of well I ended up getting drawn to fish with the guy and I’m here to tell ya the worst riding boat I’ve ever been I’ve never actually hurt in a bass boat but about mid day I was askin him could he take it easy hate those boats
The ride of any boat is also dependent on the driver. These are high performance boats that have a learning curve. Jumping into a Bass Cat with out some direction on how to drive them to lead to poor performance! Give us a call at (936)-465-5551 so we can clear the air on how these boats really ride! Thank you.
I had the same rough ride in a Bass cat on the Harris Chain in a tournament. I thought my kidneys were going to fall out.
BASS tourneys should go back to 150 HP MAX... no LIVE SCOPE or side imaging... allowed....
wow....i bet you outfish all others dont you?
ehhh Eric Simmons builds alot faster, longer bay boats
That's terrible I do 81 with a 225 Mercury on a 21-ft gambler. And with a 400hp your only doing 83 that's pretty bad nothing to brag about.
When they build them better than a Ranger let me know!!
What’s better about a ranger? Real question looking at getting a new boat wanna know
always past ranger in quality more so now with JM owning them
@@mikethetoolman8776 Bass pro dealer mechanic network 👎 I'd rather get a prostate exam @ a camping world 👎
I've gotten old enough that a better ride and 75 works for me....having said that, I'd like to just see what a 300xs on the back of my 21hp would do. Great video guys!
I also own a 18ft Ranger with a 150 Optimax, I bought brand new in 08, only has 32 hours and mint! The gel coat is cracking I’m 😡 about it! What quality ? My mint 08 Bullet has zero cracking! My Ranger is also wider than my Bullet, and my Ranger rides like shit compared to my Bullet! Rangers 👎
Sorry but 400 HP on a bass boat is just out right stupid. Just stop already.
83mph 😂😂😂 change the music bub that ain’t fast
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60 to 80 mph max with a 400? really? my allison does that with a L6 tower of power 150 with carbs and a old distributor ignition system. sounds like these new 400 really has 200 at the prop from your performance tests.
Dont look like they ride good
We used GoPros that have a wide view setting. This causes 1) a better view of the surroundings, 2) exaggerated movements. We are definitely taking all of this into consideration and taking note for future videos. I can personally say after riding in that boat all day that it is hands down the best rough water riding boat on the market! Even better than a Champion 210!! Give Andrew Y’Barbo a call if you have any other questions! (936)-465-5551
Sold them not good workmanship front end sets high off the water and very noisy plus ugly
Overrated and overrated review