Slate AXT1800 Baseball and Football Distance Tested
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
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This is such a nice setup. I'm new to the Mevo world for streaming ball games but upgraded my setup to utilize the GL-MT3000 Beryl AX wireless router and Belkin USB-C to Ethernet adapter after my first 2 weekends just using a hot spot + wifi. The video quality, stream stability and "set and forget" was so much better with this setup. My VZN hotspot was able to feed the router w/ a tethered connection (and received power from the router itself on the same connection), the router and mevo were fed power by my 20kmAh battery (the mevo via the Belkin power/ethernet adapter) and the mevo received ethernet connection direct from the router with a short cat6 cable. Just absolutely great setup. I had full bar wireless to the corner outfield fence (325ft) and could walk around wherever I wanted while doing game changer. Thank you for all the work you put into testing and improving these setups, it helped me a ton.
Outstanding use of technology. Congrats on the successes!
Jason, you can scope the area and your relative signal strength using that APP I turned you on to, Just stand with your phone at the spot where your camera is and you can read your network's signal strength in dB broken down by device (hub, extender) and see all the other networks their selected channel and any conflicts. Then reconfigure your network's channel use to minimize any interference.
Awesome tests! While this may not be a feasible solution for baseball, your tests show that it is a solid solution for softball if someone is looking for the centerfield camera shot (200-220ft).
Yes, and makes tennis a breeze and football much easier. We’re gonna have to come up with a way to help our friends who stream from inside gymnasiums get past the signal blocking happening there tho.
Tested it on our softball field at 200 ft and it seemed to work well. Only drawback was that I could not zoom in more from multicam.
It’s a catch 22 to extend range so far and not be able to zoom to what you want to see.
There has to be a way to introduce optical zoom to the livestream especially using Mevo multicam
Fantastic test Jason!!! I appreciate the effort to educate us on how to bring our children's games and activities to our families. Keep doing the great stuff you do!
Thanks Leon! Glad to know its helpful.
Love your content Jason !! You have gotten better and better over time !! I just started running switcher studio again over my mevos.
Thanks for the compliment, very nice of you to say! What about SS does it for you?
@@JasonHoffmanYT Its IOS friendly, turning any IOS device into a camera you can pull into the software. Its REALLY slick. I need to make a few videos on it... It also runs chromakey awesome. I did a tutorial video here on it: czcams.com/video/oESmyK362_s/video.html
I tested it a while back. Pretty nice user experience.
@@JasonHoffmanYT I do wish they had a full purchase price and not the monthly subscription deal. I may try and see if I can get my mevos to work with it ..
Would love for you to do a video with everything laid out on the table reflecting the setup out at the field. Would love to see exactly how all parts work together and how everything is connected. i.e. what’s hard wired in with any adapters, what’s connected wirelessly, and then seeing you actually connect stuff through mevo multi cam app and routers.
Look for a video in the near future titled “From the Comments…”
@@JasonHoffmanYT awesome I’ll be on the look out. You’ve been a huge help in helping me “hit go live”. The problem I have is I go all in, easing into something hasn’t been my strong suit! 🤣
Jason, there are a couple of aspects to RF transmission/reception technology that you did not explore. First off is the height of your hub. Simply put it needs to be as high off the ground and/or related to the camera/nodes as possible. I have put "Cheesplates" on my hubs to allow them to be attached to 1/4"#20 devices such as light stands. Some of your glitching and ghosting are being caused by timing/data issues introduced by reflections off the ground (even people) which is why higher is better as it eliminates these aberrations. Extenders and relays also eliminate wind issues which can blow the signal creating timing issues and some of your glitching. So the phrase should be "higher is better but also shorter (distance) is better."
There is also the concept of "Ground plane" but this is another aspect that I also solve in my mounting technology. I also use WiFi relays or "Extenders" which are all DC powered and this further solves any signal problems.
You are lucky in that you are operating in the easiest environment (outdoors in the open) to work in but in my world, (as you know I am a "for hire" production service) it is the worst of conditions which are Wedding, political and music performance venues.
I can’t imagine trying to stream in changing venues where people are always obstructing line of sight. You’re right, sports streaming has this great advantage of being able to elevate to keep obstructions to a minimum. Thanks for sharing the wisdom!
@@JasonHoffmanYT Ha, ha, ha... I thrive on challenging engineering and production challenges and yes you are right about places where if there are 50 people in the club or church that are all on the house WiFi if there are 1500 people in the room then there are 1500 people on the house WiFi so there is a lot of RF just floating out there. Getting things high up is the real key and I sometimes use a laser to make sure that the cameras are in the line of sight with my hub or extenders.
I use the same hub as you are since it is terrific and also will run on a USB power bank that is the same as I run the cameras, it does lack some range which and again can be improved with better quality antennas as well as their placement.
I use Netgear relay/extenders since their antennas are removable (there may be other brands too) so you can put extensions on the antenna and tape the antennas to hang from the ceilings of rooms. A 25 ft extension will let you put the base on the floor and tape the antennas high up. I also use a specially polarized (horizontal or verticle) antenna which are cheap and puts your signal transmission out of phase with the rest of all the guests/fans.crowd/etc in the area. A couple of links are below. The most common WiFi bands are 2.4 GHz, 5 GHz, and 6 GHz so the 2.4-5.8 GHz RC antennas are perfect. The bottom line is that for very little you can substantially improve the signal you have as the antennas from the factory hub and extenders are made to meet a product price and not optimize performance. You will also gain 3-9 dB in signal strength and since all Hubs and so forth are made to meet FCC specs they are all the same so antennas are the only way to "supercharge" your system.
From my phase testing the cameras are using unidirectional antennas and if your system is vertical it will be 180 degrees out of phase with the house WiFi and the MEVO system will be more solid signal-wise. I would also think about using some small "horn" or Yagi directional antennas which might help your more distant cameras. In any case, it is all worth testing. I think you may have a wind issue(s) in your application too and some 240-degree pad antennas might be the ticket for you. The key is to think of your production area as a drum and to saturate that drum with your signal as well as alter it as opposed to the signals in that box.
Circular polarized 9 dB antenna
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Yagi antenna
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@The Wildcat Show Hi,
I am working on a video tour of my 8-camera system which is just chock full of little tricks and such, such as 6 reverse stands, camera heat sinks, stand extensions, and more. It's pretty intense, especially since it all fits in one carry-on overhead bag!
Thanks
Good tests Jason; I agree with Superb Media Content Creator on the "higher is better" thought. I am sure you will give us your real world results as they develop.
Agreed, and Riki is a master at the details of a live stream. The great benefit of sports streaming is you can almost always elevate to ensure line of sight stays unobstructed. Thanks B!
Given that the flint is supported by smoothwan, I wonder if there is more gain with that router to get better distance. I don't need distance in my setup, but it would be an interesting test. One other thing you forgot...interference. I tested my Hollyland Mars Pro distance for an ultimate frisbee livestream. Then, everybody showed up and the players showed up, and it was unusable. I had to use high gain antennas to get it to work.
A great feature for the mevo multicam would be audio EQ processing. My atem mini extreme allows me to do this and I can cut out the wind by minimizing those low frequency sounds.
The Flint is the full sized version of this one? Same processor and such?
@@JasonHoffmanYT I'm not certain the difference in hardware. I should look into that.
Thank you sir!
Great tutorial Jason ! Quick question are you using the AXT1800 Travel Router as a repeater or tethering mode . I just ordered the travel router myself using your link. Im hoping it will be a great addition to my streaming setup this spring for baseball. Thanks - Dustin
I rewatched your review of the router and found the answer using wan from your mifi . Which makes sense . Thanks again Jason for the tutorials and help.
Glad you found the answer. I was obviously impressed with the distance we got our of a Mevo setup with this router. Thanks!
Yup this is the video what I need to buy it!!!! thanks a lot Jason!!! nothing better to test in the field, can you use two of them?
Second one to ask about two of them today! Not yet but hopefully I can add a second one soon.
Greetings Jason, any higher recommendations for a larger baseball park than the one illustrated in this video.
You can run two of these, the second in repeater mode to cover greater distance. Ubiquiti may be an option for portable mesh network but I havent had my hands on it.
Jason, just wondering if you have done (will do) this kind of test using a phone-hotspot tethered to the Slate router? The reason I ask - I live in western Canada and stream baseball and hockey. My telcom provider's mifi hotspots only support 4G but I sometimes use my iPhone as a hotspot tethered to a laptop. That way, I can often get a 5G connection and good speeds that allow me to stream 1080 60 fps. I'm curious if a phone hotspot will give you the same sort of stable connection with the Slate as your mifi. And, thanks for all of the incredibly informative videos you produce! - Rob
Well it’s on the list now! Thanks for the idea.
Just came across this whilst looking at GL.inet travel routers. It's great to get some idea of useable range which, I suppose, you can only find out through experience. I just want to set up two pc's with a wifi link at a distance of up to about 130 ft. It sounds like the MT3000 Beryl might be a bit better than the MT1300 Beryl but maybe either will do. Thanks, Louise
How do you get this router thing to work I connect it to my computer and then it starts crashing
Hey Jason! Thanks for the test! How are you integrating Speedify? I’m having problems with it blocking out access for my iPad communicating with my Mevo’s.
I’m actually running a custom firmware on the router called SmoothWAN that integrates Speedify. Eric Gulbrandsen did a video walkthrough detailing how to install it. I like it so far.
@@JasonHoffmanYT Gotcha, I did the same thing and will be testing that more for myself here soon. It looked like in one of the screens you showed that you were running Speedify on your iPad.
@@thebenbeckner Good eye. That part of the testing was recorded before I got SmoothWAN installed.
Sir do you have a video how to put the specify software onto a new slate axt 1800 router?
Hi Jason, may I ask why you hard wire via Ethernet cable your dugout camera and ipad? Why not just wire together the hotspot to the router and then operate everything else wirelessly? Trying to learn here and your knowledge shared is very much appreciated.
If it’s close and convenient I hard wire whatever I can to minimize the amount of wireless data needing to be transferred by the router.
Hi! Is there any tutorial how did you connect an iPad to a router wired? Thank you!
It’s as simple as usb-c to ethernet adapter>ethernet cable>usb-c to ethernet adapter. At least that’s the way I do it. Two usb-c to ethernet adapters on either end of an ethernet cable.
@@JasonHoffmanYT thank you!
Been waiting on this video! I got my AXT1800 and tested it at our softball stadium last week. I was able to get a good feed from a Mevo in Right Center Field 200' to home plate and then probably another 20 feet or so to where I had the router and hotspot set up. Used multicam app on iPad & output to Streamlabs OBS on my laptop. It works but portability may become an issue, so I have decided to go with SidelineHD and multicam on just the iPad. A problem that I am running into is output quality. Multicam is only allowing me to stream at 480p. I would like to at least get that to 720p. Any suggestions? Upload is steady off the hotspot at 6-8 Mbps so I know it's possible. Still need to test running SidelineHD and Multicam at the same time. Multicam stopped streaming once I switched windows on the iPad. Most likely user error on my part and need a little help there if anyone can. Here's my test stream that I did on the laptop using the router. czcams.com/video/IRnu9NC4AQ0/video.html
It’s odd you can’t get over 480 with Multicam. I do know Multicam has to be the front window (or in the active set if using Stage Manager). I’ve run SLHD and Multicam. They work well together.
Another great video. I recently bought the 3 pack and plan to do camp cooking vids. No streaming, just recording. On tests at home using the Mevo as hot spot it has to be on standard latency even for close distances (10-15 feet). Will this router enable lower latency at similar distance and maybe further?
If you’re running Multicam (w/Mevo as hot spot) your control device will have a lot to do with latency. That being said, the slate is a whole lot cheaper than a new tablet.
Yes it would allow the router to handle the data load and should allow better latency+distance.
@@JasonHoffmanYT well my tablet is new but I think the issue is the ability of the Mevo as hot spot handling all the data stream from all 3 cameras to my tablet? Hoping the router performs better. Another question. How did you power the router? Since it's 5v (?) Hoping I can use my Jackery power bank with USB cable (?). Using your link for router once I decide. 😀
@@TinCupChef I’m powering it with an Elecjet graphene power bank. Thanks!
@@JasonHoffmanYT Plugging into a 110v outlet on your power bank or USB 5v? Sorry, Last question.
Oh its usb 5v. Should have included this in my answer.
Do you have a video (I can't find) showing how to change connection from camera as source TO using a router? I am just recording to device and ordered that travel router. In testing at my home router, I find no way of having app stop current connection and then connect to my local wifi.
BTW, I did order a router using your link r (the newest version) but you should still get credit. 😀
In the regular Mevo app (not mulitcam), when the camera is powered on and the app starts up it should give a window stating a Mevo is available. Should be a 'change connection type' to tap on there. I don't have one in front of me to double check but I think so.
Thanks!!
Jason, I have a question. When your running the mevo through the router. What is your Latency and Resolution set at? I notice that if I have it to high it will drop or suggest changing to a lower resolution. Do you run into any issues with this while live streaming at the ball park. Also, do you notice a slow down in the router when there’s a lot of people at the ball park?
So my testing with the router has been with high, default and low. I havent seen a difference in the ability to stream at 1080 with these settings. Of course the ability to actually stream at 1080 is dependent on your upload speeds.
@@JasonHoffmanYT thank you sir. Will look into purchasing that slate router. Think my Mobil hotspot will make it run?
@@cryptokid21 As far as I know, all hotspot units with usb-c have data out at said port. So if you adapt from it to ethernet you should be good.
How do you connect your iPad to ethernet sir?
Usb-c to Ethernet adapter. Should be a link in the video description
It is almost the same use of the GL.iNet GL-AXT1800 (Slate AX) and a Netgear Nighthawk AX12 12-Stream Wi-Fi 6 Router of $449.? My plan is to have the best router possible for livestream on location.
Do you use 5ghz or 2.4ghz?
I always used 5ghz prior to this router. Much testing with 2.4 has shown great success.
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