Scenic 2006 Electronic Parking Brake not working. R2 strikes again... Fault finding and repair.
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This Scenic came to me with the electric parking brake not working... I could however, communicate with the module correctly...
While working on on the car, noticed that the rear electric windows were also not working...
And was like a Dejávu.... R2 strikes again...lol
Follow me on this video to find out what was the problem and how to resolve it...
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Like always, thank you for watching! - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Very valuable effort having shown this to owners ! Thank you LM Auto Repairs !
Usually the root cause is the drain outlets at the back of the engine compartment (below the ventilation inlet beneath the windscreen. The pipes are supposed to drain rain water out into the front fenders.
When those drain outlets get clogged by dirt, leaves, and what else then in rainy weather (or car washing!) the water will overflow into the passenger compartment behind the floor mats until it reaches the area under the seat.. And this damages the cable connections and socket you illustrated. So if you have got a Scenic 2 that is still working properly
then a cood precaution is to spend some time cleaning up those drain outlet pipes. Flush them with. pressure water. It can save the car for years to come. Provided that you ever use it in rainy weather or wash it a lot !
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Man respect ,i know so many garages that could not fix this prob,they even made customer buy ney hand brake motor,expensive, as i used to be an ex Renault techical advisor ,we at dealer level knows this issue, so with the iring diagram and controls, and most scenic ,do get water penetration ,so witha bit of patience like you did bro, problems always solved,respect agan.u have the fighting spirit ,just not give up and tell customer take ur car,probably ur uch is gone take it to dealer,this is response u get from garages (not qualified elecrician or electronics, BRAvo hats off keept the fire burning
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Great patience and having a feel for the possible moisture problem.. Some people would send the car to the breakers for less than this challenge.
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It is a common problem in this model. Just last week I repaired one. It also had the parking brake button faulty.
Thanks for the video Luis.
Common indeed!
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Yep me too, done fair few of these! Soon as I saw the title I though the passenger seat is going to be out :)
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How much would this roughly cost? Mine has gone 🤦🏻♂️
Takes a few hours to repair... depends obviously how bad it is...
Can be costly if you are paying garage rates...
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That plug looked nasty indeed 🤢😊... great diagnosis as always Luis and was nice to see the measurements from the switch very handy 👍👍👍 cheers
Thanks Igor!
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Hi crazy man, I always now check r2 if problems rear of Renault scenic,I’ve had so many scenic with water ingress,ie blocked scuttle drains,enjoyed video,well done.
Thanks!
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A right mess under the bonnet and great detective work checking the windows and looking under the seat. That car needs sealing. The plug & socket were really bad....they may not need replacing now you have joined all the wires. Another interesting video, Luis, thanks.
Hope ur laptop is fixed now...I have just made a clone of my main laptop HDD just in case the hard drive goes down , even though I make several backups of my files.
Indeed... backups are always good...
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Dear sir.a most superb video.
So methodical.analytical.
And accurate.this will help me fix my friends Renault scenic 2005 1.6
Keep up the excellent videos and work sir.great respect.very professional.well done.
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Hope you get it sorted!
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Nevex solder is the best haha ;-)
Thanks for your videos and for sharing your knowledge Luis.
Thanks Fábio!
For watching and for your comment!
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Hi, Thank you for the video a notification from this channel is like a gift.
I wish I had the opportunity to work with you and teach me some of those stuff.
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Very good job again thanks for your sharing and I will be waiting for more . 💪🤛
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More one the way...😉
The front drains are blocked (Bonnet up N/s drain needs unblocking) Temics are a common fault on scenics when windows fail. I used Clip for fault finding, and after spending a fortune on never ending problems with it i got rid.
شكراً لك. المشكل معروف دائماً في رونو scenic
Hehe! History repeats itself isn't it Luis???? Well done sir.
Absolutely! Lol
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It happened to me with a Rover 620 1996 .. its ecu and tcm was diving under water .. first i thought it was the immobilizer issues because the engine was cranking but no spark and no fuel .. i worked with out a scan tool but we fixed it ..the rain water is so dangerous to our cars we should check the draining lines always .. really your video was helpful and you are very good thx 😁😁
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Very patient ,good work.
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I like your troubleshooting method thanks
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U are the Auto Doctor. :)
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Solved one today with this problem thanks!! But still have a problem with the radio it won’t turn on or work every time! Sometimes it works but only the steering wheel buttons work and the arm rest buttons for the navigation, the others in the radio won’t even get backlight just the power button
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@@LMAutoRepairs got another this week but this one is getting complicated... First i fixed the r2 connection because both rear windows and epb stopped working.. and just after i plugged the scan and discovered the 5162 error and i ordered a new relay and replaceced the old one... but just after that didnt work i check the motor inside the motor... and guess what ? the brushes turned in to dust!!!! new motor installed and still the 5162 error... at this point i think i should have choose to buy a second hand unit.... any tips? TIA
Many thanks for a rapid reply, Yes it drives, everything works except for the intermittent front N/S central door locking (not often), I will watch supplied link, any suggestion for testing to get the central locking on front door working?
Difficult without checking...
Perhaps the loom on the hinge... just a suggestion...
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Hi Luis
Thanks for v good video as usual
I am curious about who was trying to repair the car previously
Was it the customer or a mechanic friend?
And where was the water coming from?
Thanks again
Look forward to next one
I don't have a clue who tried to fix it before...
The drains block and the water gets in through the air vents...
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Nice diag good old Renault's never disappoint 's
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True... great source for video material...
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@@LMAutoRepairs my pleasure keep them coming
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Very precise too
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😁😁😁 boas amigo ja apanhei um pincel desses mas normalmente meço os switches diretamente na placa que eles teem de fazer a comutação entre os três terminais mas sim senhor muito bom trabalho grande abraço ca do tuga 💪💪💪💪💪
Obrigado!
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I admire your work.... great job!
Thanks!
Hey Luis awesome video as usual bit of a nosey question. Do you charge per hr plus parts or just decide on a figure you feel is fair for the task
Majority of the times, the last one...
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March 15 2019. You must have a good back catalogue of videos
I had a head stratch with a laguna to be traced back to a corroded wire which is posted on one of my videos to others
I hate these electronic handbrake why reinvent the wheel when normal cables will do
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Yes... I have a few videos upfront...
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nice work..
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Good work! Like!
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Thanks mate found the same on a 2008 😂
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Hi there, I have a friend that has the same car, and he has a problem with the permanent 12V going to the stereo, the ignition 12v for the stereo work fine tho, anyway, I have not been able to fined where this wire is going, checked all the fuses but could not find anything. Do you think you could help me with this, I do not understand how this car is wired and if everything is going through some control unit or not.
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Now off to the body shop to fix the leaks lol.
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Great video but scary for a novice like me!😉
Where did you get off wiring diagrams? What OBDII/ computer reader do you use? Could You do a video on how to use it?
Your obvious expertise made me realise how little chance there is for me to find what the actual problem is because I don't have any prior experience, I don't have any wiring diagrams and don't know where to source them, and I don't have a computer OBDII reader.
I saw a great video from a garage in Wales on how to remove the auto brake unit, open it up and source and replace the motor. I did this and the removed motor brushes were corroded and broken. Lots of carbonised grit and copper came out when I tapped it, so I know the motor was u/s and I reassembled everything and put it all back. But...
...Disappointment.. the renewed parking brake still doesn't work and there is no light on the driver's release switch.
I heard that auto brake motor failure is common round about 60-75k, and I only bought the car for £400 as spares and repair because it was in good condition with only 70k on an 06 plate and the reason it was cheap the brake didn't work. Having refurbished and 're-installed the brake module I'm not sure how to proceed. I have already taken the brake switch out, cleaned all the connection with contact cleaner but there is still no light and no power going to the brake module. No evidence of any water ingress in the cabin anywhere so could the problem be fused or still under the passenger seat?
Renault repair is out of the question due to costing probably twice what I paid for the car. Can't PX it, can't sell it, the engine purrs lovely but MOT due in October. I've SORNed it. Hate to scrap it because it's a lovely motor if only the damned brake would work.
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Diagrams, Google is your best friend...😉
The water ingress and the corroded R2 plug is a common issue...
Worth to remove the passenger seat and check it...
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Hiyaa, where are you located? I have a 2005 1.1 206 HFX that has no spark, an auto electrician is baffled as are plenty of other people, so far it's had the whole engine wiring loom replaced, continuity between the coil and the ECU, 2 coil packs, an ECU and BSI, BCM and still no luck, it has Fuel pump priming and injectors firing, Just no spark.. the only codes within pp2000 are No spark cylinder 1,2,3,4 P0351, P0352! any info would be amazing and thankyou very much!
I would like to hear how you started and your work experience journey to becoming this good. do you work for yourself only.
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I am self thought...
I do this as a part time and this is not or have nothing to do with my main job....
I am just an enthusiastic which like to fix stuff...
I also don't see myself as that good...😊
But thank you for your comment, and for watching the video!
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By the way have u done laguna 3 electric parking brake issue ,parking will not disengaged when u drive,it does come on automatically when parked,but when passing gear to take off it wont disengaged, multiplex error, clutch position sensor switch,well do u have any idea.i got 2 lag3 with same issues. the motor does work, its only disengaging.Any ideas welcome.as i work alone i dont have much time to go and control xyz places, if an idea will be great. clutch position sensor????
Loved the video, I have the same problem with my Renault Laguna Petrol Automatic 2005. Parking brake warning on dash and switch not working, car is driving okay so what can be wrong with it. Any help would be welcome. thanks Tom
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Difficult to say...
Scan the car, check live data and go from there...
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Hallo, i have Golf 5 tdi , speedometer ( Cluster ) it is total failure. Can you send it to me the pin occupancy. Which fuse is responsible for the speedometer.? Tanks
The window modules suffer from moisture too. They're really cheap to replace. (Less then 20 euros)
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Needs a few holes drilling in the floor to let the water out! I bet it smells nice & mouldy.
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Does anyone know if the plug from 28:15 does exist on the megane 2 also? i have some braking fault, abs,etc problems and i want to
check that one out too
Greetings and thanks for your videos, as you invite questions could you please help. I have a Citroen C4 (B7) 2015 1.6 hdi and garage diagnostic reveals code B1624 Central power switch positive relay status fault, on the supplies protection & management system. Also battery not charging fault (it iis) and service light is always on, also cars own
diag. says electrical problem. Also Calibration down loading fault (ridiculous code P0300) to low. The car was in for service , these faults were revealed but they dont do these repairs (do not know where it is?). These faults were caused (they say) by poor AMG battery, replaced and faults persist. Any ideas? Thanks again for very detailed and explanatory videos!!!
Does the car runs?
Have you checked this:
czcams.com/video/_j48mO-1JBE/video.html
No saying at all that that is your problem... but you need to start somewhere...
Something like that, is very tricky to give any reliable advice...
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Hi I have Renault scenic. It doesn't want to start and the handbake doesn't want to release, what could be the problem please help.
very useful video. I wanted to ask you something. I have a Megane 2 2003 with factory xenon, I did the automatic leveling, so after 5 sec it lowers the headlight level. The beam of light falls low. So sometimes the headlight leveling is raised by itself, is that maybe up to that connector R2? and sometimes the trunk opens on its own.
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Never had this issue on a Megane, not even sure if is has the same R2 plug...
But worth check if there is any plugs and/or corrosion...
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Question, you said before about low battery voltage and module damage,. What should we do and how do we change a battery on a modern car safely?
The problem is not voltage off ( battery disconnected), voltage on (battery connected)... is low voltage, there is a difference...
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hi do you ever give advice. I have a Renault Zoe that is a cash repair i have an earth problem, the codes are many, but the problem is the auto lights and lock side of things. Does the reader you use help identify the problems. Thanks
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The Autel can read modules stored faults etc... should help you go in the right direction...
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@@LMAutoRepairs hi were are you in the uk?
df052 12v relay df019both left and right headlight indicators short to ground. i know its between the upc etc any pointers?
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Hi again, I'm learning a lot from your videos, but simetimes i see you a dealing with isues , that I'm allready faced couple time, like this one. So you can hit me up sometimes, maybe i will save you some working time. :)
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Please hellp me how i find sensor pdc moduels in my car talisman 2018
I've got one I'm cars and it says parking brake failure what could it be anyone can help
Can someone tell me how to release faulty handbrake on a 2009 model?
which version of maxi sys do you prefer and afordable >>
I have the IM608, and the MS908P...
The MK models are more affordable...
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@@LMAutoRepairs i saw you using the Autel maxi im , such a high price for a high tech tool , enjoy it , and thanks alot
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@@LMAutoRepairs does the mk line has the ability to actuate ??
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Are you used a wire with resistor checked multimeter
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@@LMAutoRepairs are you switch checked multimeter for use two wire with resistor
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I think I know now what you mean... yes it is...
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Hi where are you based?
Let me know how I can book my Renault espace with you. Thanks!
Hy what is the problem? Do you have same on dashboard P and service. O have this after I changed the front and rear pads,and now the brake is veri soft and pedal goes to the ground, however the epb is worki g fine just the P and service on the dashboard. Can you tell me what is your issue or you fix it?
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where did you find the diagram for Renault?
Mr Google...😉
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My Renault is currently in the garage, the have changed the hand break unit (EPB) and my passenger side caliper, however even with a new module the hand break isn't working at all, as in its doing nothing, I don't suppose anyone has any idea what could be wrong? The mechanics are scratching their heads atm not knowing what the issue could be. Thanks for any advice
With all the respect, take it to someone that knows what they are doing...
Have they checked power and grounds at the module?
Have they checked communication lines?
Why was the module replaced, which codes were set?
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@@LMAutoRepairs its at my local garage, I've just called and they have said I may need to take it to a Renault garage for diagnostics which is a pain as we don't have one local, he said him and his team have tried everything. It's driving me mad as I have been without a car since Sunday evening. The car will run perfectly just no hand break. Thank for your reply
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I understand, but as I said, there a few things they need to check... otherwise they will never find the problem...
Replacing parts in the hope that fixes it, is never the right way...
Tell the owner to scrap it, i had exactly the same problem with my sister's car, an absolute waste of time and money fixing those things. Bloody Renault terrible motors.
It's not so much the engine but the engineering and electronics
Where are you based roughly?? As my BSI is broken.
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What you mean is broken?
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@@LMAutoRepairs My car has a none communication BCU or BSI. None of the lights come on, on the dash and the engine wont start.
I have had an auto electrician come out and comfirm it is the BCU. As the is power getting to the unit, however the electrician cant communicate with the unit.
I happend when I plugged it a climate control unit from a 206 into my car thinking in is the same unit, however nothing now works.
I dont know if this BCU can be repaired or I need to replace the BCU.
Also the BCU was replaced about 4 years ago, however after a year fuse 18 started to melt.
Any help will be great.
Regards Seb
However central locking, the side lights seems to come on all the time until you lock it and the electric roof all work.
@@LMAutoRepairs My car has a none communication BCU or BSI. None of the lights come on, on the dash and the engine wont start.
I have had an auto electrician come out and comfirm it is the BCU. As the is power getting to the unit, however the electrician cant communicate with the unit.
It happend when I plugged it a climate control unit from a peugeot 206 into my car thinking in is the same unit, however nothing now works on the dashboard. However I still have windows and sun roof.
I dont know if this BCU can be repaired or I need to replace the BCU.
Also the BCU was replaced about 4 years ago, however after a year fuse 18 started to melt.
Any help will be great.
Regards Seb
@@LMAutoRepairs However central locking, the side lights seems to come on all the time until you lock it and the electric roof all work.
Hi, I need help with my parking brake. I have Grand Scenic II 2007 2,0dci with automatic transmission and i have this problem: Parking brake works, but LED on parking brake lever is not working and so it is throwing error on dashboard and i can read with diagnostic this error codes: DF016(Warning Light Circuit) and DF045 (Redundant brake switch). I tried to change lever but it didnt help. Did someone encounter this before ? It is quite annoying to see everytime error when i pull parking brake.
So i have found out that connector beneath drivers seat (left side version, on right side version it is beneath passanger seat) was rotting, so i had to remade it, every cabel one by one and now it is working. Hope it will help someone :)
Common problem...
Is in this video... and I have some more on the same issue...
Make sure you unblock the drains that cause the water to get in there in first place...
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@@LMAutoRepairs Is it shown somewhere in the video where to unblock drains ? Couse i cant figure out what do you mean, guess my english isnt too good.
@@LMAutoRepairs Also, maybe you encountered this problem, i was doing particle filter regeneration on my car with Can Clip, and after it was finished, i run after regeneration program, then went out from injection section and when i tried to enter it again, page was blank, it looked like injection computer was gone, and when i go to Consult VIN codes tab there isnt any VIN code written next to injection, all other computers like radio, instrument, parking brake does have VIN code next to it, just injection one is gone. Is there anything i can do about it ?
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Must have been a coincidence...
Is the car still starting ok?
How does the water get into the car
Me too. How did the water get there?
Scuttle panel drains are / were clogged. The water can't be drained normally and finds it way through the air vents / air system into the car.
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The blocked scuttle panel drains can be seen from the bottom if you remove the rear half of the black plastic inner wheelhouse liners left and right. It helps if you remove both front wheels. Cut the black rubber drain tube off where it exits the frame above it (rearwards of the suspension springs). Do not attempt to unblock it, it will clog again soon. just cut it off there, that is ok
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I think, the renault engineers must be fired.
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CHARGE THE IGNORENT ONES.........
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It's usually the motor. Horrid idea
Had a few with the motor issue... slightly different this time... 😋
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