This Is The BEST Class To Play In Enshrouded
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I spent many many hours testing and trying out different classes and builds in Enshrouded so that I can tell you whats good and what's bad. So in this video I'll be showing you what I think is the best class to play.
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00:00 Intro
00:28 Sword and Shield
01:31 Bow and Arrow
03:04 2 Handed Weapon
04:52 Wands and Staff
07:57 Outro - Hry
What playstyle are you guys currently playing?
Trying diff builds only lvl17 atm. Any chanse u could do a gear/skill tree progression video? Thanks
Ranger Beastmaster for me is pretty fun having wilbeasts help me fight the shroud...This game is so much fun😁
I'm a battlemage/healer. Though the beast master looks interesting.
ranger beast master are all around goods mage is O.P but hp is to low .
2h mace, jump attack, evasive strike, blink strike, water aura and fire aura.
A fast paced way to play with 2 handers. Jump attack to push the enemies, blink in, evasive strike, blink out, repeat.
Ring of Rapacity, which is obviously broken right now, gives almost endless mana if I need to whip out my staff and throw some fireballs, but the combined mana regen from mana leech that maces get and other talents give enough of it back anyways, so it'll work even after the ring is fixed.
So I guess it's a 2 handed paladin, or a battlemage build?
If you could turn wood logs into sticks at the sawmill, it would be 1000x more fun being an archer.
And have “bird houses” for feathers!
@andrefisker I mean, you can make beehives so birdhouses would make sense. Maybe stock them with seeds or something?
THIS I agree with. Should be a way to make sticks out of logs.
@JM-db8ez if you haven't done it yet I just tried making the "shrubs" on the seed bed. 1 fiber gets you 5 seedlings (you don't need water) and each seedling grows to give you 2 fiber and 1 stick every time. I set up 4 seed beds and put 25 fiber in each of them. 2 hours later I planted 500 plants and got 500 sticks. It's nice on a rented server because time progresses even if you aren't on, on a solo server you would just do this in between missions and farming other materials I guess. It was easier than looking for nests for sure.
Bird houses and stick recipe for sure! Or just let us make endless quivers like you can do for spell projectiles, or at least quivers that give chance to not consume arrows when shooting.
I'm playing as Ranger, You have to have a bow that has 'brutal' perk (+20% crit dam), my head shots hit for 500+ at level 23. It does require more gathering/farming than any other class. It's not terrible if you're vigilant, I'll note my method. I have a seed planter going at the base 24/7 make shrub seedlings, sitting on like 1,000+ seeds in no time. I spend about 5mins planting 200 bushes on my farm, before i go out on an adventure, returns 200 twigs, (about 2mins to collect) which makes 500 arrows. For iron I glide from the far eastern tower straight down to the Iron Mine, you don't have to kill the root and fight the scythe boss each time, but it give you a gap in the shroud (takes 1min). I mine until I break the pick (7mins) you get enough ore to make like 60 bars which makes 1,500 arrows. Total farm time is 17mins or so, and i do this every few hours of play. Feathers are by far the biggest blocker, you will need 5 per 50 arrows, so i just try to always kill the dragon birds and chickens during the adventure time.
Meanwhile the level 35 staff spits out fireballs that do 900+ and are an AOE and don't need any gathering. They really need to add some kind of magic infinite arrows, even if it's just wood quality.
there are explosive arrows, and talents to make them chain react, but i haven't tried those yet.
I play to 30 with wood arrows 😂😂
Yeah you can do that or you can just go up to the workbench repair your gear and go back out and play the game, but yeah i did personaly enjoy the ranger playstyle alot more then the mage playstyle so im do aggree with you on that point. And considering its a early access game i am pretty sure they will make arrows easyer to come by with a upcomming patch, and then ill play ranger all day baby =)
@@xoth2306 they could easily adjust it by changing the 50 to like 250 when making arrows.
We should be able to retrieve arrows if we hit the target.
Yes!
Absolutely!
I'm playing Mage, there's a "Ring of Rapacity" that you can farm that gives you 20% mana regen each. With two of those equipped you legitimately have infinite mana. Even makes gliding with the "Updraft" perk a blast. I was always going to play a Mage, but the fact it's so strong makes this game so fun to play for me. I was missing that option in something like Valheim (which I've heard is possible in the late game)
Thats awesome I'll have to look out for that ring.
@@stillsolo It spawns in Willow Crush, southwest of Revelwood fast travel, right when you cross the bridge (over the shroud) There's a big round structure and there's some rubble on the ground you can dig. I'm pretty sure the corpse you loot it off has a red glow similar to the lore books. Then you can just reload the game and grab another
It's getting nerfed so enjoy the cheese while you can.
@@JM-db8ez Link? Or just your prediction?
@JM-db8ez what's getting nerfed, the ring?
I play as a spell sword, like I do in Skyrim (perhaps it's called a battlemage?). I use the wand as my projectile weapon until the mobs get closer. Then I switch to one-handed and shield, which, when combined with the Jump Attack perk (which isn't limited to barbarian), makes this game a total blast to play. Although it either needs a horse, or a way to use the grappling hook in way more places, or a way to climb/traverse vertically, a la Zelda.
battlemage is pretty cool
I'm doing exactly the same xD, I haven't had too many problems, I just enhanced my armor each time I can to have the power to face the enemies
Go down and take the blood mage perk, then into healer tree and take the healing aura.
You'll have unlimited mana and be pretty tough to kill.
Hi I just started playing the game, what is the blood mage perk?
Thanks for sharing that. I really haven't figured out what play style I wanna run. After watching your video I would say I'm more like a mage. I use the wand most of the time but I do use Nova or the Noble blade up close. Subscribed for more quality tips :)
Probably one of the best informative videos ive watched out of a lot when it comes to combat, thanks bro
Glad it helped
I've been doing a mixed build with melee adding in some backstab perks. basically dodge roll behind enemies and do an extra 50% damage. its pretty fun, and keeps the momentum and mobility up with a few extra stam regen clothes/food. Just wait for them to go into attack animation or parry, then roll behind em and slay. Its pretty fun with faster swings as well.
Good information, but anyone watching should know that there's no chance acid bite isn't in for a nerf, and probably pretty soon.
Even without Acid bite at all, even if completely removed from game, Magic build is still much much stronger than either bow or melee by far. It's just broken on every level.
I usually go with a wand but I also use a shield so I still have the option to block when needed. Definitely helps me stay alive longer in those big fights!
If you keep holding block and attack with a wand the wand animation is interrupted and you may even attack as fast as with bunnyhopping
@@reljamrkic2663 I'll have to give that a try! Thanks for the tip :)
@@On3lasttim3 only works with a shield tho, not with mage shield afaik. So if you're OK with being a mage with a kite shield, roleplay wise, try it.
@@reljamrkic2663 No it works with both, any shield or ward.
I haven’t picked the game up yet, but this is cool information because I was always going to be playing a mage. It’s nice to know that it’s a good way to go because many games kinda make magic too weak because they’re scared about balance or something but go too hard on it lol
Just started this game Sunday. So far ive tried to do a bow/sword n shield hybrid. But now I'm thinking makin another char and play wiz. Great vid
Archer Class, The blue armor headpiece and gloves for the crit and ranged damage. The Gloom Monarch chest, legs, and feet for the health boost in case you make mistakes or run out of arrows and need to get up close and personal. Plus is gives off a decent heavy archer type look and is forgiving when you do accidentally glide into the middle of a group and need to make a quick escape. Double jump perk helps with that as well.
I play Wizzard with Wands, Fire aura, Heal aura, double jump but i wear tank armor.
The small adds like bugs just die to my aura, i can focus with wand on the big guys, heal and tank armor aura helps
me survive my mistakes :)
Also, we play in duo and booth auras stuck, so ... double heal double burn :)
Do heal auras still stack in the latest patch?
@@lul6124 don'T know, havent played for a while
I do play with 1h melee and shield, and bunch of Life Leech, and good stamina and life regen food. It's just annoying to deal with some enemies that have one shot mechanics, otherwise it's pretty fun to play around. And the Leech makes me heal fully very easily with a few weapon swings, so I can tank most of the stuff.
The only thing I felt lackluster is there's no way to deal with the flying mage mobs, since you cannot melee hit them, and you need to use a wand or bow to deal with them.
Great video, I agree with a lot of your input and as a staff mage user I’ll admit it’s the strongest but I also lean a little away from the “Broken” class so I’m a hybrid lol wiz/healer. Another thing is that archer is very strong BUT is the investment in farming 70% of the time just to play 30% not worth and yea no 2H sword is nuts lol I think they need to do dual wielding specifically when you have a role called “Assassin” lol
I usually like playing melee. But, in Portal Knights, i enjoyed the mage the best. So, the build you talked about is the build I've veen working toward.
Didnt know about the wand that already had +1 projectile. I'll keep my eye out for that!
Nice video. I'm not that far into the game but have been playing a mage type character from the start. Seems very clear already the wand is super OP. I don't have an acid staff yet because I'm still only 13 and only unlocked the eternal frost spell so sticking to frost for now even though fire does more damage. The wand does as much or more damage than the staff but the staff has a huge range so I can kill things like those plants without them even attacking and other mobs are dead before they reach me..if not dead after 1 or 2 staff hits I can switch to the wand to finish them off. The wand can also replenish mana so seems like they work well together.
You did a way better video explaining the classes then a lot of other videos that I watched.
Thanks!
Since this is still early access I imagine lots of this will change, I just hope they don’t nerf the mage builds to hard.
they should mages are for clowns
@@doomslayerforever2858 Ah yes the mages who are known for their intelligence and study of the elements oppose to melee "me hit thing with other thing and then it stop moving" and the melee fighter has still not figured out what death is, they just know the thing they hit stopped moving.
@@doomslayerforever2858 And we all know what u are playing in any MMO.... An Berserker... Mainly 2H with overpowered Dmg and Tankyness XD And btw, no, i dont play mage normally, i play assassin ^^ Yes, Mage needs a nerf in this game, but like always you guys dont consider the fact that an mage must lorewise have the highest dmg in any game. Hes a fking mage........
The mage builds feel like what I want them to feel like. What needs to happen is the other classes need to come up to be as satisfying as mage. Tanks take too much damage and stagger too easily, even with good armor. They need to improve the ability of armor and shield to have stagger resist, because getting stunlocked by a pack of mobs feels terrible when you're rocking the maximum defenses possible. Weapon arts would help, let onehand swords get a slash-wave magic attack that covers a frontal cone. Let two-handed barbs have a straight line charge that does fat damage along its path. There are ways to make other things good without nerfing the one fun combat style.
I agree that mage should do the most damage but being able to melt end game bosses in 3 seconds is ridiculous when the others take almost 1 min +@@mandu191
I hope they add more to the talent trees for each class later on. For instance adding weapon enchantments for the battle mage class or blood knight being able to increase dmg by using hp but gaining it back in some way. Or expand on trickster and assassin class to be more viable like a ninja or use tools or traps. If this is only the early access that means it’s still wide open to increase the FUN for each of the play styles. 🙏
We're in the early game, but my buddy is playing a "Ranger" and I am playing a sword and board "tank".
I see what you mean where they could be underwhelming if running solo, but as a duo we seem pretty capable. Granted, some enemies I just hold my shield while my buddy rains arrows, then when I lose aggro I back stab until I regain it and then hold my shield, which I suppose could be boring to some.
We went into the game with the mindset of "I'll be a tank if you want to be a damage dealer", though.
So happy the magic build is viable. I saw a video talk about how bad wands were, but I immediately saw it as my favorite option. I'm early-game, though., so we'll see how things progress. First points went into shroud time.
I have spent about 30 hours at lvl 25 and have all "end-game" items. After lots of testing, this is my tier list.
S+: Wizard
A+: Ranger
B: 2-hand melee, Wand (Battlemage)
C: 1-hand melee
I shared this on Reddit and they roasted me about putting 1-hand melee at the bottom. I went back and tested it another 5-10 hours and found the same result as you. Damage is good and the playstyle is fun, it just takes far far far more damage than other other builds. Regarding bow, universally, everyone agrees arrows are a problem. We need an eternal arrow and each craft should make 500 arrow, not 50. Assuming that is fixed, I have Ranger in the perfect spot. Great risk vs reward playstyle. I don't know exactly how my build differs from your, but my arrows do 700 damage per headshot (skillshot). With that much damage, it makes short work of all level 30 enemies. Wizard is overtuned right now. I'm a firm believer Wand and healing should scale with int, whereas staff damage should scale with spirit. At current, Wizard can pick up Damage, Earth Aura, and Water Aura. This build does everything well with no downsides. By changing staff damage to spirit, Wizard won't be able to get healing and defense. As such, it will play much like the Ranger. High damage at the cost of survivability.
4:13 - PSA, never turn your back to enemies. They get a guaranteed crit and backstab. You will notice their normal attacks did about 100 damage, but once your turned your back to them they did a hit of 420.
You bring up some really good points thanks for sharing! I do want to go back and mess around with explosive arrows on the ranger I feel like it has a lot of potential but crafting those arrows is a ton of farming
acid spray is basically Hoarfrost stomp in Elden Ring pre-nerf. Love it, it's so good.
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The dmg output on that spell when you first get it, is crazy.
Great video! Any chanse u could do a quick build/gear video (progression tree) and so forth. Thanks again love it!
Thanks for the idea!
I found your estimation of the Warrior/Tank builds to be my own experience! kinda sluggish hitting, kinda too hectic to stay alive especially at the higher levels. The Battlemage/Wizard build I also agree with you on, it is more ... not so hectic I think, and was more fun to play overall. High speed play is wearing, particularly when we get past level 15 its challenging but also tiring... With the caster build I find I have more time to effect my tactics and strategy with the mobs. Maybe thats just me too, so I get it when someone says "Paladin" build All the Way dudette!! ... lol... So, I do agree with you 100% on Battlemage/Wizard being the build for me!
Then the armor comes way too late in game stage. Every armor upgrade comes 3-5 lvls after it was usefull, so against any dangerous enemy you end up getting 2-3 hit. What is the point of giving me armor and block when I need to be a dodge tank anyways?
The agro mechanic is great though.
thanks for sharing,, at the moment ,, I try to use bomb on larger groups,, and bow as much possible from high up... and one hand weapons.. ... going to try and build a mage later.. Battle Mage is more for me... when playing magic character.. at the moment.. doing ok for my play.. only had the game 3 days at the moment.. .
I've seen other players talking about the tedious task of gathering resources (mostly twigs) for arrow crafting. I've been playing a archer from the start and when I'm out and about I make sure to pick up anything that gives me twigs, and I'm rarely below 200 arrows at any given moment. I swap between scrap and copper arrows, depending on that I'm fighting, and I do good enough damage to seldom have to resort to melee them when they get to close. I'm loving the archer playstyle.
The twig part isnt an issue. Its the higher lvl arrows that require tons of materials.
just wait until you get to the arrows that need feathers....and god forbit you want to make explosive arrows.
I was amazed by how much more powerful magic is from the get go, especially wands compared to bows
As a Dark Souls fanboy I have really been enjoying brutal melee style. But I notice it's really easy to get overwhelmed by the sheer amount of enemies sometimes. Definitely going to take a different approach on my next playthrough, maybe sneak and ranger type. I love this game though, i really haven't had this much fun in a game for years.
It's easy to get staggered, even for a dedicated tank build which is crazy. This shouldn't be the case
i totally agree, mage is the best way to have fun in this game, and i want to add something, at some point i don't remember where i found a ring (the ring or rapacity) that give -20% mana but +20% mana regen, with this ring equipped and the capacity of some staffs to give you back 5% of damage as mana, mana really isn't an issue anymore, with the right perks and firebolt you sometime deal around 500~800 dmg to all enemies within the explosion, as the mana refund work with every damage you deal one fireball is sometime enough to completely refill your mana (fun things it also work with destroyable furnitures, so if you're in an enemy camp you basically have unlimited power)
For the spells it does take some time to gather the materials to craft the unlimited ones, but they are so worth it, the ice bolt is great to slow down very aggressive enemies like the ones with two poisoned cleavers, the fire bolt is super fun to clear out large groups of enemies and destroy every pieces of furnitures you see very quickly, and the acid bite just melt through bosses like you showed
And i've found another fun thing to do as long as you get an insane mana regen like i do (aka found the ring of rapacity) and the updraft skill, this skill basically let you gain some height once while flying at the cost of mana, but if you cancel the flight animation with rmb and start it immediately again, you can use the updraft once more, and you can repeat that indefinitely, giving you free flight until you run out of stamina, it work with every weapons but i like to do this with staffs or bows since their animation on rmb is very short if you just click it, imo this is going to be patched at some point, but it's very fun to do to travel long distances
Bind your cancel to another bind. I use c for example. Its faster and lets you weave in and out of the flying animation
That sounds really fun!
I think you can find the Ring of Rapacity at Willow Crush.
Crafting arrows is the nature of the beast, ranged in this style of game is for folks who don't mind farming up for the ammo.
I think you meant to say that "ranged in this style of game IS for folks who don't mind farming up for the ammo."
@@BaritoneUkeBeast4Life correct, I was replying while dozing off in bed. Haha
Is that why there is that disparity between sorcerer and ranger in which sorcerers can find ammo that never runs out, but rangers can't find an ever-full quiver?
@@Daskard at least it's still early access, so there is potential even if they give a more efficient crafting method down the line. Mind you some of the arrows are REEEEAAALLLY good, especially when combined with certain bows
My only issue is how much it lags behind overall currently. I dont mind farming, but there has to be a good output from it in response, and magic among other things are just so much easier to work with or are vastly better. When the game possibly buffs ranger builds and makes it easier to make arrows, I think itll probably shine!
With the game being early access, I can understand some balancing issues. But this video summed up very well what's doing great, and what isn't. I think mage is good where it's at, the acid bite needs to be tuned down though. And every other playstyle needs to be tuned way up, with arrows having their material cost reduced or a way for arrows to be used less when fired. Especially when using multi shot.
Quick tip for farming twigs. Boar caves are lined with twigs that are mineable with the pickaxe.
Twig bushes are the easiest plant to grow, you don't even need to plant them in farming soil. I plant them all around my base, can farm 100 twigs within 2 mins, use the plant fiber to make more plants in the seedbed.
@@australienski6687 So you could make an awesome hedge around your base with them lol.
The wolf dens early on are also twig, you can get easily over 100 from farming them
@@On3lasttim3 this is the way
@@kateferguson7705 I can see it now....making mazes out of twigg bushes lol
wands are cool but I wanna die in GLORIOUS MELEE COMBAT
Melee is once again riding the struggle bus. The green cleaver guy and the ranged mobs make melee very unenjoyable.
Strong disagree. Evasion Attack, parry, and attack. Throw a couple of dodges in there for flavor and rinse repeat. Put them down quickly without ever being hit back.
nahhh...i went full into overpower and doing merciless attacks after overpowering is great. massive damage.
Feels like the parry window is impossible unless you have a shield b it I hate the shield aesthetic lol trynna “git Gud “ but it’s hard when your 30 😂
I recently picked up some acid spray charges and tried it on a new boss.... the boss didn't even know what was attacking it before it lost half its health. I agree that wands and staffs are the way to go until they rebalance the choices. I still like to keep bow and arrows on me since well placed headshots do really well but I'm only at mid game.
I have a solo build. The damage is split between physical one hand and a magical wand. Both use a shield, and I have points invested in health regen.
Your video nails it: While the 1H/Tank class deals as little damage as the archer, the mage devastates everything in sight.
Since the game is still in development, I would suggest that particularly powerful spells, especially in the endgame with endless casting, should require a longer cast time to maintain balance. Hopefully, such adjustments will be implemented.
Personally, I prefer playing a 1H/2H combo in single-player because I like to steer clear of the mainstream and seek my own challenges.
Even with solo mode available i guess it does try to push you more towards playing with people. Like a different range of classes.
It would be cool in solo to maybe recruit npc with different fight styles to fighg with you.
Game looks awesome so far and ive enjoyed watching people play
Would be cool if the 2H weapons had some ability like a whirlwind. For example if you double click attack and on second click hold it starts a charge up whirlwind you can move and aoe with.
I went for full mage build with elder set. Luminous wand, shroud weaver are my main weapons. 0 constitution, 22 intelligence (including food) with 9 spirit. I dont really need spirit since i have 2 ring of rapacity. I also have double jump and updraft. Super easy to far.
I quite like the one handed weapons, i tried both one and two handed but as you said, two handed is just to slow, i had a couple moments id get killed before the animation ended so im sticking to one handed for now. I quite like the wands though for only taking the one slot and giving reliable ranged damage.
Trickster adds a nice stun to the wand - which is great for the green assassins who are super fast.
Good call!
I am very new to the game and use the sword and shield. But have been goin down the wizard tree to see if it is viable. Great tip to go down battlemage tree for some extra damage!
Glad I could help
I'm still experimenting, but we certainly have different definitions of "best" as all I care about is how satisfying combat can be, so if I'm not struggling I'm not having fun. Wands I find to be broken, if they had much less autoaim and a bit more range I'd be a lot more happy with them. Inversely, the staffs are nice, but the way you need to fire them while in "tank control" mode is frustrating. I avoid bows for the same reason, especially since I don't want to grind for ammo. I also find the two-handed weapons slow, so I'm of course playing the tank build. My main spec I care about is parry, but I don't just block. Many attacks can be interrupted or dodged by baiting then strafing slight rather than a full dodge. Pulling that off feels amazing. The green bois and groups are still a menace, but I think I might be able to respec something nice soon
With all those skills you can actually use Eternal Fireball to clear out houses and stuff without even getting inside, just shoot it somewhere near and the sick AoE hits at least half of its full damage. Without that range and AoE size I would preffer Fireball over Acid. Also those berserk butchers can be stunned by some certain melee skills if you can time it, not sure how but my party member manages to stun them each time they raise to attack, my best guess is some kind of parry function can be used with animation cancelling effect.
yeah just nueck em
You're supposed to equip the staff and just use wand in the active weapon slot and then press Q to cast with it, so you'll have the wands mana regen.
i'm really enjoying the Tank/fighter/athlete build i got going, but i got to admit i can't take that acid and dog summoner boss like you can, but i play with a healer/wizard, and a straight up wizard like you got
Primary sword and board here with a wand and staff at the ready and a bow....Having a fair mix of all is really the best thing IMO. Switch as the situation needs.
Jack of all trades= meh at everything. I'd be more inclined to agree if you mixed 2 things not 3+.
@@insertnamehere4419 definitely would agree for hollowed halls. Had a hell of a time till I went full melee and tank. Whew. Great new dungeons though.
I really hope eventually the devs add more depth to combat. I would love for them to straight up copy Souls games like Elden Ring where we can 1-hand or 2-hand any weapon for different animations. Especially for the current set of 1-handed weapons like swords which swing fast. I'd love to put the shield on the back & 2-hand a sword for stronger, slower more deliberate attacks.
Thanks 👍 honest review
My pleasure 😊
Also you mentioned farming Iron Arrows is slow. A tip for farming them: you can loop the Sun Temple by rebooting the game over & over again with a home setup. You do a 1min loop breaking pots, each time collecting 25-35 arrows. So in 10 minutes you have over 300 Iron arrows without farming any Mats.
yeah its pretty easy to farm most ammos like this
But problem is you have do farm over an over. We need infinate arrow
In a pinch that might work but Ive found I burn though 50 arrows in like 2 min in this game so that is kinda pointless. I think the best option would be to just dedicate a few hours and do a mass farming run for materials.
I think it’s odd you don’t recover any arrows whenever you loot the enemies you’ve killed. Recovering atleast some arrows is standard I thought?
300 arrows is definitely an insignificant amount, as I can play for a short period of farming but when you use 1-3 arrows per pull if you have multishot, and some enemies take upwards of 50 arrows to down you're going to run out fast.
Oh boy, they really need to do some more balancing. But thanks for the great video!
Sword&board here and while it isn't killing things in one hit like mages do, I can tank pretty much everything while hitting back and not dying in a few hits.
Although I do need two hp regen rings to become a true wall
For me the best build is the build I feel is fun. 450+hrs playtime and found out a mix of Survivor/Beastmaster/Ranger/Assassin/Warrior/Barbarian/Tank does it for me, but keep in mind I don't mind gathering/scavenging/looting kinda the main reason I love openworld survival games like this as anyone is able to find his/her own nichy. Great video anyway's because I like/love to see how my fellow gamers enjoy games.
I kinda went mostly towards sword and shield until I had most stamina based skills unlocked and I never had any problems even with bigger enemy hordes. The parry mechanic is so easy it's almost impossible to miss the parry. Sure, one handed swords aren't very effective, so I used axe more until I found a good sword.
and for the staff you have to farm, and I think more than for the arrows... what is the use of the workstations (sawmill, forge, smelter, etc.) if you don't farm?If there was no "wand" in the game, few people would play magic.I personally play one handed warrior tank, but it's a bit challenging
My main class is Healer with survivalist stats. Very good mobility. I tried rander and OMG crafting the arrows was nuts lol.
Lets not pretend that acid splashes interaction with large bosses isnt the most broken thing in the game right now.
Aditionally the wand and staff perks are just generally stronger than that for melee and ranged.
Also the tnak build gets waaaaay better with the healing on crit perk which you didnt have in your clip. You can usually just heal through most damage you take.
I'm a melee warrior build, that heal on crit perk saved my ass in every boss fight since I got it
@@Psycorde Best skill for melee build. He also didn't use it in this video which I think makes the tank build better than he thinks.
I have tried all of the different types of weapons. I prefer wand/bow/1 handed melee build. It tailors the best to how I play games which is to adapt to whoever I'm fighting. Wands do a good amount of damage without having to get in enemies faces. Bows allow for ranged sneak attacks and close range melee and wands too depending on the enemy are good for those using these bomb things that blast you especially early game.
I have not fought any of the bigger bosses yet though I'm still so early but those are the weapon classes I personally like. I don't like using the staffs. They take too long to charge. I don't like using the 2 handed weapons cause they take too long to attack in general and its slower than anything else.
i started with bows and basicly came to the same conclusion
now i play a magebuild with all the goodstuff from it like half time to cast ,double projectile ,necromancer ,firedmg to brut ,healing aura ,teleport ect
but also diped in doublejump ,gliderstuff ,farming and even the 10%dmg reduction from tank
i use a fire wand and staff and jump atack with a 2 hander for most dmg (86weapon dmg upgraded) mostly for bugswarms and the green guys
i dont use any mage armor beside this one mana ring
the rest is lifeleech ring and a mix of armorparts that work for me
darkmonarch helm and chest
falcon pants and gloves
eagel boots
I played what I called a Paladin build. Tank and Healer. I held enemies on me and kept my friends healed while my friends killed stuff. Very fun coop build.
Currently the most OP build is the OOM (Out Of Mana) Wand build. Makes your wand do 10x damage, for instance if your wand hits for 250, it will hit for 2,500. Essentially you avoid as much spirit as you can in the talent trees, avoid any mana/mana regen gear. The goal is to be Out Of Mana as fast as possible. What you do is Equip your staff but don't put it on your hotbar.
That leaves it so you can use it by holding Q. Then you select your wand on the hotbar, HOLD Q and cast a spell until you are OOM. Then when you keep holding Q while attempting to cast, it will default to your wand. . . but if you are OOM then your wand will do 10X damage. Literally.
It'll get fixed eventually though ;) It clearly counts as backstab damage when they stand in it, not just when they get hit with it from behind. - Also higher up, there are a lot of flying enemies, they are hard to hit with acid.
With bow and arrow it helps a lot to enhance backstab damage in both places and aim the head...always.
As of the patch the acid spell got gutted but it’s still strong. I one shot the drake boss with it and two shot most of the others. Wand staff combo was great to replenish mana. My bow is still insane damage if you get the headshot bonus. One handed I agree with. The self healing is cool but there is so little stagger on it it’s just not effective and is slow except against those annoying beetles
ok switiching my build from bow im convinced , now do you have a video on the best gear //wand//build for this wand mage ?
I dont but I will come up with one soon
I feel like staffs have the same issues as bow til late game, you gotta farm some to get a reliable amount of spells, but they make up for it in sheer damage, plus you can get eternal spells so you dont have to worry about farming
I’m playing melee. Not sure what my ranged will be, was thinking bow but might switch to the and for ranged.
If you're going to have an ammunition mechanic, the damage had better be worth it, especially if it's a build that kind of insists on skill, because you're not doing bow and arrow right if you're not going for those criticals. In the early/mid game, it just isn't good damage compared to most other things you can do. All I find myself doing with arrows is sniping off one or two enemies, maybe blowing some explosive barrels, and then its wand/kite time.
exactly
Indeed, I carry 1 bow, 200 arrows, and 4 wands, lol, and enough stone/string/wood to make a fast travel/workbench to repair the wands as needed.
Hey bro, are you aware that you can equip the staff without having to have it on your bar, just in your inventory? You can do the same with bows, then use a key bind to instantly equip it. It's great! Also, this game is great, and yes, wand/staff is the only way to go IMO.
Yes but I like having it on my hotbar because if you just quip it you have to press "Q" to use it which I dont like. I prefer to just select it and hold right click to charge it up.
i am playing mixed art, have some points in 1 handed, have some points to ranged weapons .... and using acid bite, like a high lv magician without investing any points ... so far so good, i like MY Playstile, because its works .... i also use 2 handed weapons, but only for breaking the whole world :D
wow no joke about the acid. doing a range/sword & shield. but yeah mage seems to be the way to go. maybe my next play through.
solution to arrows is being able to pick them back up from the target when they are dead. as in some other games.
How do you get the eternal staves? I've been playing ranged build but the eternal poison one looks fun to try out.
You have to craft the eternal spell from the alchemist NPC
When you do a tank build, go down the gasket tree and get the passive healing. Makes you almost unkillable.
sneaky/ranger i love stealth and hope theres going to be cloaks that make you invis in the future im not that far in the game so idk if its anygood
I use staff and wand. Staff is great for CC at a distance and the wand is a ranged weapon that you can combine with a shield! That makes it perfect to kill the green guys. Waiting for the mage to get nerfed now...
How is the survivability of going wand/staff? My only fear is I won't survive long enough to reap the benefits of it. I would say I am prob not a good or quick player, so dodging around is prob not going to go well. Would melee allow me to face tank albeit at a slower kill speed?
Gotta kite a lot with large groups of enemies.
just go tank build + healer + wand its harder to die
Well i am going with a mix of bow and 1h Weapons + Shield setup. lvl 25 and it works absolutely fine... around 600 damage with bow and 150 with 1h. I also have plenty of stamina and health. Alround build i would say
Good overview, that poison spray is going to get nerfed lol way too OP
I play a mix between tank (one handed and shield) and mage and a little bit bow. But mainly meele and it works great. Esp when i have the heal self with critical hit, regen armor, enemiesctake dmg when dmg u and that thing that dmg enemies nearby every second. Shields are rly op against averege enemies and some bosses. Not the demento lookin things tho, u gt dodge those
I’m currently using a tank/warrior build and I’m not having the same issues. I’m able to take on multiple enemies with no issues. I use different foods to boost my DPS, and I have a Noble Sword.
Never got really good weapons, but I'm at max level now and always focused and getting the most out of consumables, that helped
@@Psycorde I really hope they add a larger variants of player made weapons, because when I was lower levels like 10-15 I was really struggling with the DPS. So I feel like in its current state player experience relies too much on RNG. As soon as I found the Noble Sword I was having way more fun. Not asking for OP weapons just stuff that can merge the gaps when going into new areas.
After around 50hrs playing only bow i agree with everything regarding that topic.
The twigs. My god the twigs alone drive me crazy...if they buffed twigs recieved from one shrub by 10x i would change my opinion. Or if they made the single target damge higher because of ammo cost, its a better compromise.
But around mid game i started mixing bow with INT for elemental damage (fire) after discovering how OP mage is in the game.
Having said that, the explosive arrow cost is too insane to be sustainable.
Mage is basically the meta untill they rebalance cost to reward.
Did you guys Know that the Dens where the Pigs/boars live is TWIGS! :) I love going to Diadwyn to loot the Chest, Waterwell and Farm the 2 Pig dens there for Twigs :) Log out n rinse repeat :)
@@JohnLee-bd6rv indeed that is useful.
By end game i want to use iron and explosive arrows.
But explosive arrows are basically multiple lengthy steps and resources that make me jealous of the other classes just getting to left click for free
The wolf dens early on have twigs in them too, you just have to mine them up :)
Have you seen what you need to craft explosive arrows? its nuts
Yeah i've been farming it over the last few days just to stock up when new content comes out. For now i switched to broken Mage class to farm the last remaining lego items.
Just hit level 23 and haven't accessed the last zone by what I can tell but at this point for me: melee < bow < mage
I started melee as mage seemed like crap at low levels but switched to bow after lvl 10 or so and it got tons better. Now that I have enough skill points and spells unlocked I'm finding mage better than bow.
I understand that magic is supposed to be powerful but not like meta lol still loving this game a lot and hope to see them add more stuff and builds. No way we are not getting a two handed sword lol that would be criminal.
Love the arrow build but the farming is insane, I think that like the staff has Eternal lightning, fire etc then arrow should be like that. you find an endless Quiver for each type. I'm not saying make it easy to find.
The thing with staves using spells like a bow uses arrows is a bit off putting for me. Especially since each cast takes so much mana! I think if I'm going to be using up charges then the skill should cost almost no mana. Or if it's going to cost me a full bar of mana, then it shouldn't use a charge
I am building my skill tree through battlemage and wizard but I'm early on level 5 and I'm still hitting enemies with my axe and shield a lot until I get my wands built up. I fall back on my sword and shield as needed.
Would you update it with the newest patch that made arrows only cost 2 twigs instead of 10?
Mana is not an issue with 2x ring of rapacity (-20% mana, +20% mana regen and it stacks). You can pretty much spam any spells like this. Combine this with eternal acid bite and the shroudweaver staff and you have a very strong setup at your disposal. It's actually too good imho. I should not be able to melt a level 30 boss in a few seconds. This is with flask/scroll/best food, but without the 12% staff damage gloves or optimised skills.
The main issue with the staff is the cast time. It's mainly used for ranged mobs or as an opener.
yeah the cast time even with the 50% talent is still a little slow
To be fair; I feel like this video applies really nicely to the "Early Access", but it's a mistake to assume that the combat won't change and become a little more balanced after some time of community feedback much like this video. So, for now, this is great information and brought to us with good logic - however, I would reckon the devs are already in the works of finding balance changes to make most or all options of combat viable. They (the devs) did say that they would like for this game to be played with friends in a sort of DnD-esque party where players can take up needed roles and maximize the lanes as a unit, but have acknowledged the solo playing community which leads me to believe that in some of the upcoming patches there will most likely be those buffs/debuffs etc.
I use both frost and fire wands, got some bow and some arrows but rarely ever have to grab that thing, and that boss at the Pike was owning my ass until I found the Acid Spray, which nukes anything and everything. I rarely dodge, I just jump. Im at level 22 or something and really hope they uncap the level and perhaps scale the difficulty in the future, because right now I'm a god and nothing can really stand a chance at me...
I really hope they tune the other specs to be as good as the caster specs, but I fear they'll just nerf the caster specs to be as bad as the others.
My buddy really wanted to do a tank build but found the same problem that you were having. It needs to be balanced a bit more to be viable.
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Few more observations after i completed the game.
- You shouldn't build around a playstyle, you should have ranged and melee/midrange options for any build.
- You should build around weapons not playstyle, coz all weapons are different in what they can do.
- Going for Dex+Int or Str+Int for ranged/melee characters results in the best DPS, so hybrid builds will be on top, compared to pure builds. Also worth nothing that increasing your Flame level results in all stats increase, so you can figure things out from this point.
- There is no gear i found or crafted that benefits Two-Handed damage and on top of that Two-Handed weapons have highest parry rating in the game, so devs see tanks with Two-Handers, not with Sword and Board.
- Food buffs are crucial to every build, raising up stats or recovering HP.
- You should look for Fire/Lightning weapons, reason for that is that most-to-all enemies in game have no resistance to Lightning and other are vulnerable to Fire. On top of that you have most magic perks related to those two elements and increasing damage with those elements and thee work on each other.