Sennheiser HD560S vs Fidelio X2HR Comparison
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couldnt decide, bought both of em. 560s are just so detailled with awesome imaging und good soundstage. Fidelio X2HR are fun and awesome for playing casual shooter, watching movies are listening to electronic music or hip hop.
do you use an amplifier or just plug them on pc, my old x2hr is broken and people are suggesting me for a hd560s
That brief recap at the beginning had me cackling. It was also the perfect synopsis: given that I love listening to Meshuggah while working I got the fidelios. Thank you!
dude, I got the fidelio's on their way from Amazon and i'm so glad to hear that music like Meshuggah sound great on them. I bought another pair of cans that I couldn't get to play well with metal so I sold them off. Can't wait to for these to arrive even more now.
You have a great presentation of the material. Great humor. Great voice. It is very pleasant to listen and watch.
You helped alright. I have X2HRs, 58Xs, Beyer Custom One Pros and was considering getting one HD560s but I guess I'm not missing much.
Wow. You are amazing. Found the video I wanted. Thanks.
Everyone talks about how clampy the 560S is but I find it to be like 60% as clampy as the 6xx or 58x. I also find the earpads to be perfectly comfortable. They should never change them again.
Edit: just wanted to add that the x2hr is absolutely incredible for classic rock. I can listen to Fleetwood Mac on the x2hr for hours.
Amazing review my g
Great Comparison Video 👌🏼. I can't wait to see yo comparison of the Fidelio X2 against the Fidelio X3.
Thanks! Not sure if that'll happen soon, the negative reception kinda has me second-guessing that move lol. Definitely possible though
I totally understand and that's why I wanna hear it from the horse's mouth so to speak. As always, I appreciate the awesome videos 👊🏽
Love the videos keep up the great work!
Just got the X2HR to replace my 7 year old falling apart HD681. It's a beautifully build and looking device and without having the break in period, it already sounds a lot better. The only authority the Superlux has is the insane and silly air movement in the sub low end. The Fidelio is less sharp and finally I have mids, better detail and presence overall. I do recommend driving them differently , especially for the sub low end. For instance, when listening to youtube, they behave very different if you set the youtube volume to
Agree on the fun-factor of the Fidelios, keep coming back to them and their punch and wiiiiiide soundstage. Can especially recommend for (well recorded) live performances. They keep their place next to my Sennheiser HD600's (which I love as well, but for different genres and with a slight bass-boost) and DT770 pros (when it needs to be closed back). Very good review, thx!
@Bushviking Funny coincidence, I have exactly the same trio; Sennheiser HD600, Beyerdynamic DT770-80 ohm (closed back for studio recording) and recently purchased at an excellent price the Philips Fidelio X2HR and I am very satisfied with the complementarity that these three provide.Before I bought the Sennheiser HD600 I compared back and forward with the 560s and found them anemic, boring and didn’t enjoy the kind of neutrality they reproduce.The 600 are from another league, much better cans from my point of view, more resolution, kind of neutrality, instruments separation, etc. I have the same opinion regarding the HD650 that are very warm, dark and sometimes boring.With their defects and virtues the HD600 are the Swiss Army knife of headphones under € 350.00.I was lucky and bought mine for less money.Returning to the Fidelio x2HR, I think they are really excellent headphones especially at this moment where we can find them sometimes for € 130.00 or less. In a very simplistic attempt to define the sound of the Philips Fidelio x2, to me they sound like the HD600 with more bass and treble and more open space good for listening to music in general with pleasure, comfort and fun.
@@Joaonunokendall Im long time HD650 listener and also have HD600 for brighter version of loved music but since a week I bought Hifiman Sundara and in first moments I felt that is my end game. Outstanding pair. Im considering to sell HD600 and keep only HD650 and Sundara but it depends on coming new amplifiers.
@@HiFiMaan I understand. It makes perfect sense this new duet.I have heard a lot of praise for the Hifiman Sundaras.I had borrowed the Sennheiser hd650 from a friend for about a month and I liked them in the studio with good amplification.The choice was very difficult and I ended up choosing the ones (HD600) that seemed most useful as a work tool in the studio while editing and mixing.I almost bought both (600and 650) but it didn’t seem reasonable since they are similar and both excellent.Congratulations on the Sundaras and good auditions!
An excellent, concise review. I have the X2HR and HD 599 not 560. But in any case your impressions very much matched up with mine. I guess the hd599 is just a somewhat cheaper and less refined version of the hd560. It too can be a bit over forward in mid-range vocals but otherwise very well behaved and never sibilant. I find the x2hr to be garishly sibilant and requiring a huge amount of EQ. Once you do that all the fine qualities you mention are revealed. Nevertheless it remains a bit too sharp for vocals in the upper regions, giving them an odd kind of reedy quality sometimes while strings and guitars have the most wonderful crunchyness that can make the Sennheiser sound rather bland and thin on the instrumentals. I still haven't decided which to keep...
What is EQ?
Which did you keep? I have the X2HR but am considering sending it back because it's a bit too piercing sometimes. I might order the hd599 and try both to see which I like best
Which one did you keep? Just ordered both to compare
I went from $30-$50 skullcandy earbuds to Philips Fidelio X2 back in like 2015 and had them for years before accidently stepping and breaking the headband :( Then I think by then they had the X2HR version and I heard the Hype about Sennheiser and people said its better for the genres I listen to and ended up getting the HD 600 58x Jubilee Hifiman 400SE Dekoni Audio Blue Fostex Sony MDR7506 and Grado SR80e and none sounded as "fun" as the Philips Fidelio X2 but I had them only for years and then went about a year with just crappy earbuds before I started buying different headphones. Right now honestly my favorite are the 58x even with any DAC/AMP I try and EQ and all that custom profiles auto EQ Qudelix-5K and Hiby R3 and other USB DACs. 2nd are probably the HD 600 and then the Hifiman 400SE. I can't stand the Grado SR80e no matter what I try. I listen to 80s-90s heavy metal too that's really treble focused and guitar shredding and I don't know if I just remember the Philips Fidelio X2 being so good for me and fun because I had nothing to compare it too or if they really were. Other people have recommended the Sundara and Berdynamic Headphones but I don't know. I might try some with good return policies or even a little restocking fee and accepting returns. I love mid-high range singing with tons of 5th octave notes but many are shitty recorded demos or very small record labels albums with bad mixing. Its almost nothing you would hear on the radio or see on youtube. I scour metal archive sites and just mass listen to thousands of thousands of songs and like what I like. Only kind of known bands I listen to are Fates Warning pre mid 90s Crimson Glory first 2 albums some Savatage and Helstar first 4 albums. Mainly heavy/power/prog metal and some hard rock a couple of AOR songs and no pop rap hip hop electronic dubstep or anything like that. Even in terms of metal only Heavy/Melodic/Power/Progressive and some Thrash but not aggressive vocals more like Toxik or old Flotsam and Jetsam first 2 album vocals. And when people think power metal they usually think of new power metal all about rainbows dragons and ponies and nothing like that. Mainly late 80s and 90s power metal way before it turned into mostly what it is today. Not even newer metal really either except a very few songs. Can't stand Nu-Metal Black Metal Death Metal some doom metal is alright but more so heavy or progressive doom metal with higher vocals hate Metal-Core ect. I know what I like and even genres I like its like a 1/1000 chance I will like the song sadly. Mainly up until mid 2000s and then to me the sound drastically changed even after the early 90s the sound changed a lot and many bands I listen to I like their late 80s early 90s stuff but can't stand anything past that. I'm the type with no favorite band and only like certain songs on certain albums and I can't think of even 1 album where I've liked every song. Even genres I like its like less than a 1% chance that I will like the song even in the time periods I like the most :( I've listened to easily over 100 thousand songs not in their entirety of course but skipping around and know if I like it or not very quickly. I have to with dealing with thousands of songs at a time sometimes over 50GB. Basically none ever have reissues are were limited on release to like 500 copies and you have to spend a fortune just for the CD usually $50+. There is a site metal archives with probably 500 thousand bands listed on it. I have heard many of those over around a 8 year period 2k songs here and there type of thing and some channels that have thousands of songs uploaded. Sorry I went on way too long about random stuff I just wanna have that fun factor again with good sound too if its possible.
Nice detailed review , here's a like substance and everything
I recently got my X2HR and they are great! However while listening to symphonic metal with REALLY rich sound and female vocals, like Within Temptation, sometimes vocals feel a bit farther away and orchestra with drums needs a bit more clarity. I'm a newbie to this audiophile rabbit-hole, so what should I be looking for? Is it the nature of V-shape or is it because of recordings or am I just asking 500$ specs from a 150$ headphones? They are hooked up to FiiO K3.
leaving comment just in case anyone answers
Mmm, you may be right about that. The X2HR definitely punch above their price point, but I wouldn't say they punch all the way up to $500 either.
Great question Agnis cus I also listen to Hi-Res audio tracks of Movie Soundtracks like L.O.T.R and The Martian; so I'd ask the exact same question!😁👍
Hey. Didn't you encounter the same problem with other headphones. It just feels as if it was recorded this way? Idk
Great review man, I really liked it! is the first review I watch with this kind of tone in your voice jeje, good for that.
I want to buy my first pair of headphones, I am very interested in analytic ones but I think I will start with a fun and more musical ones like this Fidelio X2, V Shaped. Peace out!
Ordered the X2HR.
After watching this, I don't think I'll purchase the 560s. Seems more like side-grade to my currently owned x2hr. Do you think the hd800s is a direct upgrade of the x2hr instead, technicalities and sound signature wise?
Mmm, not quite. The HD800s although somewhat treble-forward, aren't exactly v-shaped. They're more neutral by comparison.
I haven't heard them myself, but Zeos was raving about the Klipsch Heritage HP-3, which I believe have a V-shaped sound signature. Maybe try those.
I'm glad this comparison helped you out lol
A bit late but how does the X2HR compete with the he400se? Which one should I get if I can get the x2 for €70 and the he400se for €140?
Nice 👍 listening through my IEMs CCA CA16 👽🎶🥁🎤🎧
A completely random comment not directly related to your video, but your voice sounds a lot like the English narrator's voice from Catherine: Full Body video game. :)
Interesting
I got the Fidelio X2HR for $115 after Sennheiser screwed me on a warranty repair. The X2HR gives me no reason to consider Sennheiser again.
Interesting
How did you get screwed? just curious.
@@lostandfound6501 I purchased a set of headphones directly from their website in Dec. 2019. There was an issue with the volume in one ear being lower than the other. I know it wasn't the cable since I had an extra one. After a few months of procrastination I sent it back for a warranty repair. They mailed them back unfixed without any explanation. When I called, they said they no longer made the model and couldn't fix them. After much back and forth they offered to send a different headphone (which i really didn't want) as a replacement. The replacement never showed up, and I was tired of dealing with them. They lost a long time customer.
@@GetOffMyyLawn WOW!
@@GetOffMyyLawnexactly opposite to the types of experience I’ve had with Sennheiser. They’ve been wonderful
Thanks for the in - depth soundscape review on both of these headphones. Imagine these 2 with a Creative Labs Sound Blaster Crystallizer Clear audio on 100% and the extension of the V-Shape without EQ will blow your mind. :D
🤣 at that “Frosty” image and the reference…
Hello there ! I'm kinda new to this whole audiophile-hi-fi thing so i apologize if i say something stupid or idiotic, i have the Sennheiser HD 599 for two years, and I'm planning on getting something new either Fidelio X2HR which in my country (Greece) right now they cost about 131 euros, or the Sennheiser HD 560s which they cost 190 euros. Which one would you recommend me ? I mostly enjoy pop (k-pop) and rnb music than classical. If i understood correctly the HD 560's are more accurate and natural sounding (and in a way a bit tad boring ?), whereas Fidelio's are more exciting while losing the accuracy and the neutral sound of the 560's. Is it possible to make HD 560's more exciting and less boring than stock with Eq by only changing the lower frequencies? Will this affect negatively for the mids and highs ? Thank you for your time and for your great video !
Just get a slightly warm portable dac/amp and the 560's will be perfect. Once you go entry level audiophile you never look back. The world is full of V shaped cans, you need to move forward.
@@sandydennylives1392 Thank you for your advice! I ended up buying the HD 650's and i just received them today. They sound so much better at least to my ears than the 599's. However, i might need a good headphone dac/amplifier to get the most out of it. For now i have them connected with the 6.3mm front jack of my 5.1 home cinema amplifier which outputs via rca to 3.5mm cable to the headphones jack of my ae-5 SoundBlaster. So yeah... maybe not the best equipment for theses? I'm thinking on getting the Fiio K5Pro, do you think that this will be enough to handle them? If not what would you advice me?
@@vaggelisvasileiou3126 The 650's are a fine choice. I have a Sony dap/amp attached to my Walkman with a thick elastic band for my 560's, but it's not made anymore. Dependent on your budget, iFi are a good brand and do a portable for £138 or thereabouts. You need a dac/amp to bring the body of Senn 'phones to life, a Dap isn't enough on it's own, unless you go high end with A&K.
@@sandydennylives1392 Hmm i see.. Thank you once again sir!
@@vaggelisvasileiou3126 It's either iFi or the other way around. Glad to help. Get your 650's hummin'.
What did you drive these with? I may have missed it, but I didn’t see any DAC/AMP mentioned. The 560S needs far more juice. I love my X2HR, but I gotta give it to the 560S. It produces AMAZING sub bass and bass when driven well. The X2HR can be driven by my iPad or phone easily.
The HD560S is truly amazing. So clear, and without the veil that some Sennheiser cans have.
the THX AAA 789 amp, and the SMSL SU-8 DAC
hi i looking for open back headphones for laptop with out amplifier , under usd 300. i use multi type music movie gaming The sound I like is mainly to be clear and have bass, but the bass should not be too heavy, because too heavy bass will cause the sound to be distorted, and it is not good if there is no bass.
which one you recommend? senheiser, beyer , hifiman , philips, AKG ? and what model ? thanks
Just getting into headphones of a higher quality. Any good free EQ software out there you recommend? Oh, and let me throw another curve ball into the mix. One with less graphics. :) Totally blind here and the more graphic something is the less chance my program that reads the screen will cooperate. Any suggestions appreciated. BTW, I have both of these cans. I think I agree with you about all aspects, except that I don't have the discomfort issues with the 560s. I did at first, but they seem to have loosened up just enough. Still, overall, I find myself reaching for the X2s more often. Again, great review.
Try out EqualizerAPO and the PEACE GUI. Here's the link to install them: czcams.com/video/doAjkiLIkKA/video.html
@@chuckolatte600 Thanks. I'll give this a try.
I had the 560s. I couldn't find one thing to like about them compared to my AKG 712 Pro. They have more bass then 712 but at the wrong place. They still have the infamous Sennheiser veil. Maybe a little bit better vocals. For the rest: details, timbre, sound stage, positioning etc, the 712 is waaay better (and very eq-able). Got rid of the 560s after 2 days
Hi, great review👏👏👏. I have a question. I read a review where a buyer complained that the left/right channels were unbalanced in volume. Have you experienced this problem?
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HEYA! Nope, haven't experienced that myself
The only explanation to difference of opinion about the headphones is that our ears got set into different sound signatures over the years because of our listening preferences.So i think we can never review a headphone with neutrality of reference.
For Pink Floyd, musics like shine on, Dire Straits, Genesis prog rock of the 70s, Jarre, Vangelis and Pop. What you recomend, The X2HR/00 are at 94 € at Amazon and the 560S at 144€, and I'm on a PC with a ALC1200 audio and an old Creative Inspire 6700 speakers with 3.5mm exit, they have have power enough for my sony 3080 speakers of 100W.
Just bought the Fidelio X2HR, fantastic sound, strong build it would last another 20 years. Also bought a cheap dac for my tV, and a 5m extension (same kind of cable, better than rubber) cable for my bedroom to connect to the dac and my bed.
94€ is really steal deal. I'm still waiting for a sale on Amazon France.
Got a few days ago the Sennheiser hd 560s for 160 euros, sending them back right now as I'm buying the Fidelios for only 85 euros, do you think it's a good choice?
If I had to pick only one for myself, I'd prefer the HD560S. So no, I'd say spend now and don't look back. But maybe you prefer the v-shaped sound of the X2HR so who's to say?
The fact that a lot of reviewers have pointed out just how "budget" the 560s build quality is really shows just how inexperienced I am in this world. Coming from the top tier "gaming" headphones my entire life, I really thought my 560s's were amazing. They sound fantastic, sound even better when hooked up to my amp and dac, and feel great to me. I guess there is a lot more out there I need to experience.
It's less so that they feel "budget" and moreso they dont feel as durable as other options. Reviewers usually bend the hand band in all directions to show the viewer it wont break and as you probably already know, you cant do that with these at all lmao. I honestly feel like the HD560s could break in half if I stepped on them the wrong way accidently lol. You can see with the Fidellios in this vid: its not that they spend more money on the material necessarily overall, its just smartly designed with the thin metal skeleton, covering, and band over your head thats stretchy and adds some comfort. The pads on the HD560s almost definitely cost more and might feel a little more cozy even, but the frame is less durable
Well it's true there are a lot more HPs out there that sound noticeably better than the HD560s. However, the HD560s are an excellent HP and a great "stopping point" if you'd rather keep them for a few years while you save money for a more "summit-fi" HP like an Audeze or an HD800s.
@@chuckolatte600 Yeah I just got my HD560s yesterday and so far Im really really liking them lol, theyre comfy for my head too. Was considering on using them on my ps5/xbox series x console, do you have any usb amp recommendations?
@@PantsaBear The durability "feel" is definitely just a misguided feel. Because no matter how they "feel" they ARE durable. I often see reviewers that bend them in impossible ways and they never break, they are elastic. Metal would be meaningless, it would just make them pointlessly heavier.
Similarly, headphones that "feel" durable because of the metal like Audeze weigh like 700+ grams, are less comfortable, and far less durable if they take a fall due to the massive weight.
The paradox!
People in this hobby are used to the highest profit margins imaginable. They'll spend two grand on a single pair of headphones, but there's a lot of diminishing returns at those price points.
Wondering if the Fidelios would be better in gaming vs the Sennhauser?
Hello,
Im considering to buy one of these for my gaming purpose.
Mostly single player games like Witcher, hollow knight etc. to enjoy music and sound effects on pc/ps5/Xbox.
And also mmo games like world of Warcraft. Not FPS games where positioning is important.
What do you think would be best to buy of these two?
Want to enjoy sound, music, sometimes talk with friends and discord and enjoy every aspect of time with headphones.
Thank you for reply.
Seems like you don't care about accuracy as much as you do about the "wow factor" So I'd say you'll enjoy the X2HR a little more
@@chuckolatte600 thanks, bought X2hr ☺️
@@chuckolatte600 👆🏻 Just like @spekku said, even I'm looking for a pair of OPEN-BACK headphones which is best for all the requirements he mentioned:
*(Single player/story-based gaming which includes genres like horror and open-world + best sound for movies and music + looking for the "wow" factor + don't give a shit about competitive/multiplayer games)*
The X2HR is unavailable in my country right now, could you please suggest me any other headphones with a similar (or better) performance as X2HR??
Good comparison. Really want to try Sennheiser's but here they are way too expensive. Got the X2HR second for a steal which was $400 cheaper than the 560S(new) so can't complain.
The 560s can be found new for under 200. How can the X2HR you bought be $400 cheaper lmao
Which is better for single player video games like the last of us and fod of war? I have no intention playing competitive online games or be serious about them.
what mic are you using, it sounds like asmr! your voice feels like you're inside my head!
Just my Galaxy s9+'s mic a jazz hand away from my mouth haha
@@chuckolatte600 my s10+ mic doesnt sound as good tho, what is this sorcery!
@@octoglazed3693 Great question, but yeah I use a gooseneck to position the phone a jazz hand away from my mouth, right in front of me hehe
Okay so I got a question about these headphones. I'm new to the Hifi audio world, and finally decided to get a pair of X2HR's. They're absolutely amazing and now I want more. Now, I've got a relatively cheap (around $250) Yamaha amp/receiver which I use for home listening. On my phone I'm using a cheap ($10?) usb-c to jack adapter. I know the fidelios are easy to drive, but am I missing out on anything?
I feel like I am. Because while the audio is very good on all fronts, I barely hear a difference between Spotify, Tidal or Vinyl. Phone or amp also barely makes a difference, except for volume. Do I just need to train my ears, or is there a bottleneck in this setup?
Just a little bit. They're mostly great using a dongle but they do get a little something extra by using them with an actual DAC/amp setup
Coming from a competitive gaming standpoint (I’m not sure if you game, and if so what games you do play) which would you recommend?
560s becuase of better imaging, but i have the x2hr and its still really good for gaming. Dont expect them to do the job for you if you think buying any of these headphones would automataccly make you Apex Predator in Apex or whatever competative games you play. They will help you but you still have to put in the effort and time to get to know the games. Once you get good enough, you only need to react and not think to much making you react a lot faster when you do hear those sound que's coming left from right.
@@xevus2959 agreed on putting time in. I mainly play Warzone and consider myself fairly good. I’ve just always had garbage headphones. I recently was gifted a pair of SHP 9500s and I definitely have improved in just environmental awareness and where people are. I wouldn’t say it drastically improved my gameplay, but I’m more focused and aware of what’s going on for sure. Thank you for answering my question btw!
@@gingi_swagg9304 a good headphone beats any "gaming headset" any day, and of course beats lol
Heya! I used to play Overwatch a lot a few years ago, now I don't really do competitive gaming anymore hehe. Nowadays I mostly play story-driven games like Yakuza, God of War, Cyberpunk 2077, etc. Like xevus mentioned, I'd go with the HD560S for competitive gaming for that excellent imaging.
man, i had commited on a used deal for the fidelio x2s but then i aborted due to some bad reviews i read. and now i feel like i might've made a mistake. price was real good. i 'd love to see a comparison of the fidelio and the DT 990 and DT 880 and maybe other headphones known for sound stage. i'm new to this and i'm trying to find out, if there is a true towards neutral headphone out there that also has nice and wide sound stage and immersion. so far it often seems like these kind of HPs lack in terms of mids. is that because bass gets hyped to compensate for openess? i wish there was an easy way to just A/B all of them without having to order them all goddamnit :D
Haha, hopefully I can get my hands on some Beyers pretty soon. All I can say is this: I kept the X2hr as a flavor to choose from. It was a great choice!
I would love to get the dt770s but I really wanted detachable cable. I'm leaning towards the x 2 HRS they are on sale for 123 right now
Yeah I mean there's going to be negative reviews on every existing consumer tech product... Especially when it comes to audio which is so personal and subjective
@@michaelcorcoran8768 Well, the X2HRs also have a detachable cable FYI. And get them--THEY'RE WORTH IT
I currently own the Philips fidelio X2's and I gotta say, these are super comfy. It's like they're hugging your head. I sometimes keep them on to warm my ears when watching TV. They also helped me fix my neck posture a bit since you can really feel the weight of these things if you stick your head out but otherwise great comfort and weight distribution.
I would love to try out the Sennheiser 560s but unfortunately there are no stores that have them available to try on in my country.
P.S
Seems like you really enjoy the X2HR's.
I’m considering getting the fidelios but is the sound leak bad? Will sound also leak in? I live with quite a few ppl in a small area so this would be great to know. Thanks
@@yuliusjrt9917 Yeah, it's an open-back headphone and the sound leak is quite noticeable, but If you listen on very low volumes (10-15%) people probably won't hear it until they sit right next to you. I listen on about 50-70% though. And yes the sound does leak in as well. You can hear everything normally around you as if you don't have anything covering your ears.
@@jirapatthaenphromrat2910 ah ok, I may have to consider that then. Thanks a lot for answering my question
I do enjoy the X2HR. These things are crazy...but in a good way lol
@@chuckolatte600 would they be good for a first time pair of open back headphones?
Thanks )
I have fidelio x3
What is the best for fps gaming ?
Last week I bought the X2HR and after 30 mins testing I already requested to return it. The build quality and comfort are superb, but it's so strong V-shaped it's absolutely disappointing! And in the end the sound is all that matters. I miss the mids so much, specially in other sounds then music, it's totally useless for me. I bought it because I read in most reviews it should have so great sound and be neutral. Well it's definitely not. Great video though, thx.
Yeah I wasn't a big fan of that sound signature either. That's why I don't own them anymore haha
....I love My X2HR Over 1 Year Aftwr Purchase ....
I love the x2hr.
If the sound quality of the sennheiser is not world's better, is it worth the upgrade?
Mmm it's more of a sound/comfort preference. I prefer the HD560S sound-wise because I prefer a more neutral sound signature but YMMV. So for me it would be worth the upgrade, or it would be worth keeping both
В начале обзора прозвучала музыка ! И я думал , что в конце обзора будет какое-то музыкальное сравнение этих наушников . Говорить о звуке и не слушая его - это не правильно . Долгожданное звучание я так и не услышал ...жаль
Yo I will lay back my beloved X2HR for my new Sennheiser 560S. The sound of X2 sounds a bit foggy and way not neutral enough and the base of 560S is more clear and punchy!
single player games and music X2hr or Hd560s ?? i wnat to buy a Fiio k3 or k5 to use with one of them
that's tough. For gaming I'd go with the X2HR, but for music I'd rather pick the 560S
The hd560s is great for competitive games where doorsteps need to be accurate and pinpoint imaging of the space of the game. The x2hr won’t give you accurate sound. I know you asked about single player games but Spiderman Miles Morales on the ps5 is so amazing with the 560s it’s like your there. The x2hr will do but it’s not as involving as a gaming headphones. For music the 560s is by far the better headphones with songs with vocals. I’m not of a fan of distance vocals from headphones. The 560s is like having the singer in your room. The the x2hr is like someone down the hallway from your room singing.
Man, which one would you recommend for a hip hop and jazz listener?
I'd go with the 560S for jazz, but the X2HR for hip hop.
@@stephenr2434 what would you recommend The Hi-Fi Men sandara or both of those?
I'm pretty new to the audio game and I am mulling how to introduce myself into this guy hobby. So far I've grabbed a few popular IEMs, But I haven't yet bought premium wired audio.
@@michaelcorcoran8768 what did you buy
Best for films?
Is this Cable (Red) for X2HR change anything? Better than oryginal?
It can be. I just found a decent replacement cable for you all, in case you don't like the thickness/stiffness of the X2HR's stock cable
I just got both of them...I think I'm gonna keep the HD560S.... I was gonna keep the X2HR... until I tried the Sennheiser.... yes the Phillips has funky and rich sound... but Sennheiser has more detail and clarity ( at the same volume and probably because of 30 ohms vs 120 ohms) ... you can tell right away that those couple of tens of dollars make the difference... Of course Fidelio has a bit bigger sound stage...but only if you increase the volume.... ) The biggest, in my opinion, downside of the Fidelio is their size ( I hate the arch over your head) and compared to the HD560S they are not that comfortable....and you feel their presence on your head .... whereas with Sennheiser...it's like they were designed for your head.
Now I'm comparing HD560S with Beyerdynamic DT770 250 ohm .... in a couple of days I'm getting thg ifi zen dac v2 .... that think will decide which of this 2 or 3 pairs of headphones I'm keeping...
So how did it go?
@@princesmith8008 I decided to keep the Sennheiser..they are just more musical...more crisp and easier to listen to.
Are they good for gaming too??
I'm actually looking for a pair of open-back headphones with great bass for single player/story-based games and watching movies.
Got any recommendations?
@@princesmith8008 I haven't played a video game in at least 15 years...so I cannot really tell.... movie watching ... didn't really tried them for this purpose. I got them exclusively for music listening ( vinyl records directly from the amplifier headphones output and digital streaming through ifi zen dac signature)
@@vitalie787 Ohh okay, no problem.
But tell me, how's the bass in HD 560s and all the other headphones you mentioned in your original comment??
which one would u chooese between the dt990 and the fidelios?
I've never tried the DT990 but based on what I've heard, I don't think I'd enjoy the Beyer's more pronounced v-shaped signature
what should i get, the hd560s or x2hr? i like playing games and listening to music and im confuse which should i get?
x2hr have a wider soundstage and have a more "exciting" sound. But it all depends on whether you prefer a more neutral sound or action-y
@@chuckolatte600 can help me find a bass heavy headset for me maybe 40-100$, i want to try thr hs60 haptic if it is any good
@@haythamkenway2110 All I can think of is the monoprice retros. They're not super fantastic or anything but a pair of those and some aftermarket pads make them a decent choice: czcams.com/video/tMp3s1H5eHs/video.html
So are the HD599 headphones the best for gaming in terms of affordable sound quality and soundstage? I play on Xbox so I need something that can be powered by my Wolverine TE controller.
Not sure, haven't heard the HD599...
Im in the same boat. Totally impossible to decide. 😁 Just impossible when there's so many different opinions on every damn headphone. I'm leaning towards sennheiser hd 599 SE though. I want the black version.
@@memorycard1000 what did you get
@@saboss None. 😁 I'll stick with my xcloud alpha for a while longer. My buying temptation has eased down. It took too long to decide.
I feel hd560s cleaner and better tonality than x2hr. What is your opinion?
Agreed! Mostly due to the fact that I prefer a flatter HP response though haha
Buy all the open backs from all manufacturers ! - one of them might just be actually for you - Just Hit-n-trial - the usual headphone story as the 'sound' interpretation is always very subjective varying from person to person , keep the one that worked and sell the others
perfect timing, i literally bought x2hr's a couple days ago and found out about the 560s yesterday. guess i'll have to grab a pair of those as well... how do they compare to the hd600 for reference purposes?
He has a video with 560s vs 600
Definitely HD600 as I have compared to HD560S directly too.
czcams.com/video/dzDlJ3-kcmw/video.html Here's the link to watch the comparison. Thanks for tuning in!
I bought the 600 for reference purposes.The 560s doesn’t have the resolution, instruments separation and the mids Sennheiser’s are famous for and the realistic well balanced treble sounding almost like near field speakers monitors.They lack a little low-end bass extension under 90 ~ 100 hz what doesn’t happen with the 560s and nothing that an equalizer does not solve.Vocals sounds amazing on the 600.
I own a Fidelio X2HR and a Sennheiser HD579 that is in the lower end of Sennheiser's audiophile targeted line. I really wanted to like more the Fidelio when comparing these two headphones but the HD579, at least to my ears, always seem to have a more richier and envolving sound. The Fidelio are competent but the Sennheiser HD579 brings life and brightness to the music. Becase of this, I use much more the HD579. Every time I pick the Fidelio hoping that this time they will sound better, the HD579 still blows them out of the water. This is sad, I had big hopes for the Fidelio X2HR but now I'm thinking about selling them.
Same here. However, after about 80hrs. of burn in, the Fidelio's sound much better.. Maybe let them break in a little?
I feel the exact opposite. The X2HR makes all my favourite music feel very alive, spacious and exciting. I guess it depends on the genre though. Hip hop, Electronic music and Classic rock sound amazing. Classical music sounds average on these headphones in my opinion. Guitars sound absolutely incredible, but pianos usually sound a little boring on this one
@@DuSeun I still keep my Fidelio X2HR, I come to like them more and they are very comfortable, I alternate between then and my HD600, but now I'm enjoying my 1More Triple Driver Trident and my Sivga Robin SV021 that I've purchased very recently. These are really fun to listen to, specially the Trident.
I think the he-400i 2020 the dt 990 pro an the Tygr are also good contenders .
Yeah I'll look into those relatively soon. Heard a lot of good things about them lol
I just had the X2HR, HE4xx, 880 600 ohm and 560s at my place to figure out which one is best. I liked them all over the X2HR by a mile. These two headphones should not even be compared to one another. The 560s are clear and accurate and the X2HRs are not. If you want a more entertaining 560s EQ more bass and more treble, the drivers can handle basically anything you throw at it while still sounding amazing. They are also half the weight and comfortable as heck...maybe I have a smaller head.
Beyond my disagreements good videos, cheers.
None of the headphones you mentioned could beat x2Hr sub-bass. imaging, and soundstage. Also, Senh HD560s is boring after listening for a while. It is not easy to find a perfect headphone. it depends on individual taste only. x2Hr is a more versatile headphone than any other you have mentioned.
@@yongye1122 I don't know but maybe I got a bad pair but they did not sound nearly as good, specifically on accuracy of musical notes. Sounded as it if reproduced different notes compared to the other 3. I am no expert that is just what I heard. As far as the 560s again just EQ it up if you want them to entertain. They can be bass monsters with ease.
@@dangerusdave44 You need to have a dac/amp to boost the sound.
@@yongye1122 Lol obviously. I already mentioned I was fuxin with the 600 ohm 880s, course I used a dac/amp. Even if I wasn't i compared 4 headphones and found them to be the least impressive so your comment is insanely useless.
@@dangerusdave44 It depends on individual tastes and applications. What I don't like about some reviews is that they have EQ the headphone sound output. It is difficult to tell the actual sound of the headphone. Many of us will make some silly mistakes by listening to these CZcams reviews.
Do you have any opinions on the DT 990 pros?
Nope, haven't heard them yet. Though I do plan on doing a Beyerdynamic Saga soon
@@chuckolatte600 Nice, currently trying to decide between the 560s and the 990 pros.
@@LaurusHG oof. that's a rough one since they are so different. would really depend on what you want to use them for. i'm a new audiophile/audio person but i can give you some impressions from having A/B-ed them for a bit. ended up with the HD 560s.
my goal was to find an allrounder for music production and consumption and for gaming. since i'm on a budget currently i needed one HP for all three. keep that in mind.
HD 560s
music: more neutral and "boring" but also more natural. more intimate in terms of soundstage but not closed in. just smaller in comparison.
gaming: due to more flat response they are way less fatiguing for both gaming and long music listening. they are immersive with their decent soundstage but less so than the beyers. yes shit hits the fan but you can tolerate it for long periods of time.
DT990
music: more airy, more powerful in a way but more thin in a way also. hard to explain. i think it's the recessed mids. you get this airy wide feeling but it also sounds more sterile and artificial and things like guitars and voices seem a bit distant. it's a fascinating sound but it is definately "enhanced". i would sum it up as more 3d, more intense (treble and bass) but also less natural. cymbals can sound unnaturally sharp and in the foreground.
gaming: explosions are more powerful. treble is more pronounced. things are intense as fuck. but that makes it fatiguing (for me personally), and eventhough footsteps are way in the foreground because of the treble peak, the heavy bass is distracting which might neutralise that advantage overall. treble for both gaming and music is elevated to a level that makes things sound off a little bit sometimes. gunshots sound more metallic than usual for example. visceral in a futuristic cold-ish kind of way. i totally get what some people like about these.
i was put off by what i read about the veil with senn HPs but then i found the 560s. they even have this seemingly deeper bass than their siblings and it's a very clean bass. yes it doesnt boom your pants off but it's not just audible. it thumps too when the track makes it. these HP to me just sound true and i LOVE that they are basically bright non muddy sennheisers. i love them more and more. but i also realised that at some point i will need to also own airy HPs with a really wide sound stage. it's kind of a gimmick maybe but having heard it once i gotta say that it's a nice and immersive thing that i want to have access to in the future. remember the HD 560s have sound stage. it's just not an in your face feature.
excuse the wall of text but i thought i'd chime in since these were pretty much the choices i had. i will leave you with this: try the TYGR 300 r by beyerdynamic too. they are like "fixed" DT 990s in terms of treble. ignore their gaming branding. dt 990 drivers in dt 880 housing with treble dampening filter. you get something less crazy and more reasonable and you keep the nice strong but clean bass of the DT 990. and test them all gaming or just jamming for at least two hours. i thought i was a bass head until i did "field tests". intensity is nice for a moment but it has its price over time.
@@sebbo1496 I actually tried both too and ended up going with the 990 pros. The 560s were a bit too 'flat' and I guess as you said, boring. Love the 990s, great detail in the highs and surprisingly good bass for an open back, miss don't seem recessed at all but I can see why someone might think they are.
H560s are far more neutral and seem more suited to mixing or professional music production than casual listening and gaming.
The build quality is also far better on the 990s Id say, that and they're by far the most comfortable headphones I've ever worn.
Overall they're both fantastic headphones, but considering I could get the 990s for £30 less it was a no-brainer for me. Thanks for your response though!
for anyone who reads this in the future. i eventually settled for the he400i 2020. i can confidently recommend this as an amazing allrounder at the 200 and down range. only headphone i found that has no area in the frequency response that becomes annoying after a while. this thing just let's you get lost in the music without dampening/veiling anything.
HE4xx apparently same thing. just get any of them and never look back. enjoyable natural and musical frequency response. no gimmicks no distractions. fun without fatigue
I own the hd560s currently and have owned the fidelio x2hr in the past. In my opinion, the Sennheiser is the better headphone by far. It's not even close. It sounds far better to me but also, my fidelio broke within half a year. The cheap little connectors that hold the earcups to the yokes broke on me. I tried to contact Philips for a warranty claim but they make it damn near impossible to find help. It was disappointing considering how careful I am with my headphones. Either way, I prefer the Sennheiser sound anyway.
Interesting. Sorry to hear that but I'm glad you got yourself what you REALLY wanted after all lol
@@chuckolatte600 Yeah. I've had the hd560s for a couple months now. I like them. That being said, I also recently just purchased dt1990s and HD650s. I should receive them both Monday so I'm pretty excited. I have some dt990s and Amiron Homes already and I love both of them. Turns out I'm not very bothered by treble. I kind of prefer it actually. Too many headphones man. Too many headphones
@@jakew2037Do you think 990s are better that 560s for stage , imaging, detail??
@@Spyrozzz Soundstage I feel like it pretty similar between the two. I'd maybe actually give a slight edge to the DT990s in that regard. As for the imaging, I think the DT990 is clearly superior for that. I play a lot of Apex Legends and I can definitely find people a lot easier with the 990s. Detail is great on both, but the DT990 pushes it at you. The Sennheiser has all the same detail but it lets you look for it if you want it. In other words, the DT990 are more aggressive with detail and you really hear everything whether you want to or not and the Sennheiser is a little more forgiving in that regard.
@@jakew2037 XD I am playing apex at the moment ..so 990 pro is the way to go . I think 560s are a bit overpriced cause 990pro has also better build quality .Anyway thx for replying .
which one is better for rock genre ?
I'd go with the HD560S so that nothing gets buried behind another part of the frequency response
Wath about a comparison between X2HR vs monolith m1060
Perhaps in the future, though I don't have plans to compare those in the near future.
One comparision of elex vs 650 pleaseeeeee
Ayyyyyeeeuuhhh, got rid of the 6XX quite a few years ago now lol. Maybe in the future.
chapters would be much appreciated
Which of these headphones are better for listening to classical and orchestral music and watching movies?
HD560s for classical/orchestral music (neutral, natural presentation), X2HR for movies (hyped sound for exiting movies).
Surprised you don't tame that nasty 8750hz peak with the X2HR, this is were most sharpness comes from imo.
Yeah that whole area is just...yeah
@@chuckolatte600 What do you think about the following filters: 8Khz HS +2db Q0.71 and 9Khz PK -5db Q4.
Can anyone explain to me what 10:30 A.M & 11:30A.M MEAN!
The position of the dial is like a clock. So those times you'll have the dial pointing to northwest
@@chuckolatte600 thanx but wasn't referring to that; I was referring to what someone said on the amplifitude or marking on the dials.
Which one has more natural sounding voice? like real life voice?
HD560S
so the Fidelios are better for games?
yes, not competitive games, but single player ones with open world exploration. Their imaging isn't quite as good as other headphones.
@@jirapatthaenphromrat2910 what other headphones?
@@danterikxx I haven't personally tested this myself, but people on r/audiophile says that the Audio Technica ADx series are pretty good for competitive games. Especially the Ath AD900x or the AD2000x. The Beyerdynamic 1990 or the TGR300 is also a popular choice over the X2hr. Though they are considerably more pricey.
competitve games id go with the hd560s
even comp games the fidelios are good
Hi, I am a movie person. Which you should I buy for great movie sound experience
I think the X2HR would be better for impactful sound (the wow factor)
My ass paid $400 for the original Fidelio X2hr... son of $^%%@
I ended up returning my X2HRs in favor of the 560S. Don't get me wrong the X2HRs are a blast to listen to but they will also blast away from your skull if you just move your eyes. In my opinion the X2HRs have the worst clamping force I have ever experienced on a pair of headphones, because of how unbalanced and uneven it is. I think the suspension style headband is way too weak and stretchy, it feels like the headphones are playing trampoline with my skull. meanwhile the earcups love to press a lot on my skull. It's too low and too high at the same time. I especially noticed this that when I started moving my head to the tunes, the headband would slide up and down my head until they inevitably fall off while the super high clamping force of the earcups keep them on my head, no matter where my headband is. If they weren't so heavy, I could wear them like a stethoscope.
I've had 3 pairs of X2HR and each one had different clamping forces and even the headband on one of them was more egg shaped than the rest which made them bounce up and down on my head. The pair I have now sit nearly perfectly so I can listen to metal and enjoy the music while bobbing my head away. I've had the 560s too but my ears are too big and the protruding block used for the swivel cups smashed into my ear causing discomfort after 30 minutes of use sadly disqualifying it as a daily headphone, even though I enjoyed the sound.
X2HR vs X3?
Good question, haven't heard the X3 yet. Though they really haven't gotten positive reviews...
I know you have to pay a considerable amount more for the X3 which is why I'm leaning towards the x 2 Hrs
The X2HR with Dekoni leather pads (about $50 US) sound really close to the X3 and still are almost $100 less. Also with those pads they have quickly become one of the most comfortable headphones to wear for long periods of time.
the Fidelio have zero bass i mean none, and distort so quickly
You must have one weird head for the X2s to be more comfortable for you than the 560s. I owned the X2s and they are HEAVY and the pads rested on my ears too much due to the headband.
I do agree that Senns are clampy at first, but you can loosen them if you don't want to wait and they are the most comfy thing in the world. The pads don't touch my ears in any spot whatsoever.
Strange. I've had the HD560s for about 5 months now and they haven't gotten any better...
@@chuckolatte600 You mentioned that you have a large head. Now, I don't know exactly how large that is but I think this is the first time I heard someone saying that a 500 series style headphone is uncomfortable.
Even with HD 600 I had to add a slight mod for my ears to not touch anything inside the cup since they are not as roomy. Usually pretty much any headphone is uncomfortable for me for more than 1 hour.
But these 500 series can basically be almost permanent on my head due to the low weight, clamp (after breaking in) and roomy cups.
@@Leonhart_93 you have te weird head, everyone says these are comfortable
@@gamesmaster1060 Objectively they would be less comfortable when they are 2x as heavy and smaller space for ears compared to something from HD 500 series.
it's just that or me they are about 10x less comfortable (as in I can keep them on the head 10x less time than normal).
X2 is not comfortable at all lol
That headband looks awful
the x2hr? it really is. I have them
I've owned both of these headphones and almost all of what you said is inaccurate. Lol
It's almost as if sound is subjective
@@michaelcorcoran8768 some of what he describes is objective. The imaging on the x2hr is complete dog poo. And the 560s are far and away more detailed and accurate then the x2hr. The bass in those headphones are bloated boomy and floppy even when driven correctly with headroom. I know we all have subjective opinions, but I don't think he listened to either of them a week before he did this comparison. Lol
@@dustindavidson9139 the imaging is fine wtf
@@dustindavidson9139 sounds like a fanboy
@@gamesmaster1060 compared to other products the imaging on the x2hr's is absolutely dog poo. Three blob effect.
HD560S are nice headphones but I think they will not have success in the market. Sound class is high but quality materials and price they make not best bang for buck not even in TOP of 1000 models ;) There are many better headphones in that price range and people who is doing pro mixing will not buy so crappy looking pair.
Yeah, I also think the few things that make them unique aren't quite enough to make them competitive...
Oh the materials are EXACTLY what they should be. They are made so to be the lightest possible. I guarantee you that their plastic is more expensive than any cheap piece of steel. Try to bend them as you like than they won't break. I don't think there are others ways to make them more perfectly light and comfortable while being drable.
Point in case, I have like 4 models of 500 series for a while now and none of them ever broke anything.
It is not easy to finde flat, neutral sounding open back headphones made by reputable brand, how many do you know?
Very misleading review again, definitely not inline with my own experience and other reviews out there. B.Q in this video is bs, you can't judge it based if it is metal or plastic.
Comfort wise quite hard to believe in your opinion since 240 grams HP vs 380 grams HP is a significant difference to begin with. I'll end up here, no point in continuing this discussion.
You make some decent points, but comfort is subjective. I mean, it’s like if one person had a big Charlie Brown punkin head vs a pencil necked geek. And then there’s the ears- if they’re calling you Wombat
like they did Ross Perot, we’ll then…
also, HD600 is mehhhhhhhh....but HD660s is good, I prefer nano ananda, it is close to HD 800,i"m an audiophile last 40 y & I know what I talking about! Also if you, young generations need a good DAC/AMP for your HP& mobile phone, Fiio Q11 is perfect for money,& I still believe in the wire than Bluetooth for reasonable sound!!
FIDELIO IS MUCH BETTER THAN HD560S, BUT I MUST SAY HD800 RULL.........PERFECT HP!!
you dont have ears