Making LPVO's Great Again - Antimatter ScopeSwitch
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The Antimatter ScopeSwitch is a unique new product that adds useful functionality to most any LPVO optic.
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Bring back the gauntlet!
Forget the gauntlet, those exposed wires are gonna get hung up on any number of things going thru the brush. Hard pass.
I just circumvented this issue and accepted the con of a fixed power prism, 3x on my carbine will reasonably enable me to do anything I need too.
Why not use a basic 3-12x scope then
@@jason200912 Weight
I got a ACOG with red dot on top. 1X and 4X should get me through 99%
Rumor has it is Macgyver was in charge of the R&D on this product. Mac you also forgot to mention that it comes with a field repair kit that includes 2 packages of bubble gum and some zip ties.
Love the idea it just needs to be perfected
I swear they took that out of my 1973 Mustang AM/FM analog radio tuner. Seriously though, it’s genius really, people have forgotten about cable driven things. Thanks for spotlighting this 👍
huge fan of it, I've heard plenty of people say they are just afraid of "another thing to go wrong" but if the wire breaks you can always manually adjust the optic anyways. Plus backup irons exist for a reason/red top on top or canted. This makes the lvpo so much faster to get on target and adjust on the fly
Honestly, never understood a canted backup dot. Too much work, too much time to get on target when its canted. Easier to just lift your head and call it a day rather than twist your rifle and hope you twist it perfectly and don't fumble it.
You validated the argument of "another thing to go wrong." If the wire snaps then I can adjust manually.
So if the cable breaks and you’re back to manually manipulating the optic, why not just stick with manually manipulating the optic? 🤷♂️
@@ronsorrentino6207 because the scope switch is faster....I'm trying to understand your point here, man.
@@ronsorrentino6207 Exactly. I said the same thing but you said it better. LOL
Hey it's only gen 1 and I definitely see improvements being made in the future. Obviously it gives another possibility of failure but something mechanical over electrical can be a good thing in a lot of situations.
Happy surprise! Thanks MAC
Brass facts broke one with no effort. Watch his video
I love Brass Facts and hoplopfheil because of how critical and honest their are in their product reviews
New tech always has problems in the beginning. Look at the Space X reusable rockets. Blew up a few times before they got it right.
@@Wade-1 Us gun owners shouldn't be the beta testers for companies.
If it breaks its same as it used to be, just adjust the zoom manually. Aside from cost weight and snap there's no downside
@@merlin704 A perfect (innovative) product isn't going to be made on the first go around. Rarely is this so. Costs would be astronomical and unfeasible for many products if this was the case for many innovations.
Cool idea, but the almost $400 price tag is a cost I myself find is prohibitive. The other thing is, the more you complicate things, the more likely they will malfunction or just outright break. Keep us posted though on what your results in testing show as far as the long term use, it will be interesting how it works out.
Good GEN 1 product. I can’t wait for a GEN 2 version where there’s not the wires showing and it makes the installation easier.
I think this is a solution looking for a problem. I feel like the benefit in having the ability to quickly adjust your magnification to engage multiple targets at different distances isn't worth the added weight.
Back in 97, The Golden Eye 007 days, you could adjust the sights by holding down the shoulder buttons.
Underrated comment.
Cool product...hefty price for something like this though...not necessarily my cup of tea, but I like the innovation!
Seems backwards? The more zoomed you have your scope the further away you want your support hand for stabilizing. Maby there is a way to hook it up to run the other way?
Yes it's reversible
I was thinking the same thing
Hand forward for more c clamp operation where it helps you switch targets faster
Love this idea
Seen one like this about a year ago but it was electrical driven. Just a press of a button made it move. Just a fyi if your into stuff like this.
Sounds even heavier and relying on a battery
would've like to see you run a quick little course engaging targets at varying ranges both with and without the scope switch. the idea of the product being that this product will allow you to stay behind the glass while switching magnification more easily.
Gimmick that will save u a millisecond at most and probably break or stop the user from manually switching magnification
Cool concept for certain applications.
They are making a electronic one
The whole point of a top-mounted red dot is so that you can quickly acquire your target, then move your eye down to the scope to take the shot. Why did they even include the picatinny scope ring if it completely undermines the product? 😂
Feels like it would be better for the magnified setting to be when you hand is farther out on the forend. More stable - less wiggle when magnified. Pull it in - less stable but you are focused closer where it matters less. However maybe that motion feels counterintuitive. Super neat concept.
That’s been a popular opinion that I definitely agree with. Just seems more intuitive that way.
That might just be how he prefers it or how he set it up during install. Almost positive you can just change the wire lengths and it'll change which positions the hand is at vs magnification.
Was gonna throw that out there. Every lpvo runs different directions for magnification, so would setting it up “backwards” for the direction you have make it that way? Where zoomed out is hand forward. I’d bet so probably.
But also like said above, human intuitiveness is a thing. Brain thinks “bring the image in closer”, and correlates that to bringing in your hand closer. Like your hand is physically doing the work. It’s hard to overcome those sort of things, mentally and takes alot of practice to do so without real thought. i.e… a high stress situation.
@@gavincline209 that’s true. I bet you could just swap the wire connectors or start with the slider and optic in whichever position you prefer and rig it up to zoom either way.
I’d like to see a follow up video to see how dirt or sand might affect it. I’m also curious - what if water gets into it and freezes?
I like it but I think it fits more along the lines of competitive shooting when you need to zoom in and out faster. Also extra railing means extra weight up front and you got the wires not sure how durable they will be over time
The weight seems balanced towards the center of the gun
I saw this and knew exactly how it worked! That is a neat and quick device to use, imo. I would be concerned about functionality over time, but the wiring could be fixed as needed, just keep up with the equipment and try to keep it as clean as possible. It'd be great to see another video, if you wouldn't mind, as you suggested, to see how durable it is. Admittedly, I generally use certain magnifications 1, 3 or 4 and 6; but, the concept is great, also a good 1st gen attempt, as you said! I see an upgrade, already...
This is why I run an offset dot. If you get the HOB exactly the same between your dot and lpvo, you can use the dot to find your target, then roll the gun right onto what you are looking at with 10 x power or whatever and be right on target. It is way faster.
Exactly. Plus, you have redundancy.
I remember when this first came out and I thought it was battery-powered or something, and wasn't too impressed. Then I found out it was just wires and pulleys, and I was impressed. Very impressed. If it holds up to abuse, it's a great idea.
I'm pretty sure they make a battery powered model also
Tactical Jank. Gun shop shelf gold.
It's a prototype
Another (probably better) solution is a set of 45 degree offset irons zeroed for a specific distance, or an offset RMR mount. Gives you redundancy as a bonus.
This is a really cool invention!
Next to follow up is some engineer creating LPVO optimized for scope switch like operation.
LPVOs are out of my price range great content personally I use a Holo with a magnifier
I went with monster tactical.
I think the one I got was $129 with a 1to 6. I plan on getting 1 to
10 power. The one I got was a 1 to 6 I love it. On my 556.the 1 to 10 runs around 200 with mount.
I grabbed a Sig Sauer Tango MSR 1-6x when they came out for like $250. They are $279 at Palmetto State Armory right now and they come with everything you need (Cantilever mount, throw lever, scope caps, battery, etc...). I wasn't expecting too much from it but it is outstanding LPVO for the money, which is less than a Romeo/Juliet Optic/Magnifier combo for ~$300. Now Sig Sauer makes a 1-8x and a 1-10x Tango MSR.
Primary Arms 1-6 for $400 all day!
It's a neat idea, for sure. But I'm not a race gunner. Nor am I some kind of operator. Let's be honest, If I ever find myself in a situation where I might have a need to rapidly bounce between ranges, I'm probably going to have a really, really bad day. Good chance it may be my last day. Probably better off finding someplace else to be in a big damn hurry. But I do like LPVOs. I'd love to use red dots. Oh Lord, would I ever. But with the astigmatism I have, even the finest dot just looks like a big spikey mess.
But it is a really neat idea. And REALLY appreciate the one size fits all setup that doesn't require a proprietary scope or whatnot. Quite a cool bit of kit.
I’m excited for the electric version, I believe it was announced at Shot Show last year
I have a PA LPVO and the magnification is very stiff, even with the lever. How powerful is this thing?
There was a similar concept to this I saw a few years ago called RAZAR or RAZR i think. It was based on a different method of magnification and irt was electrically controlled by a button
Just another point of possible breakage. I'd rather run canted irons, or a red dot for close work.
Get back to me when it's powered with a push button like a light or Lazer.. right now it looks goofy and restricts you to a goofy tactacool c clamp grip not to mention forces you to readjust shooting position/grip and interference with any add ones to the gun.
The sceptic in me sees numerous nooks & crannies to be kept cleaned and lubed!
Cool maybe for a hunting rig. But honestly I’d prefer if a company just put a button that goes back to 1. As fast as a flippy thingy…
They can make a thumb planetary gear mechanism to minimize the throw/slide
I seen something like this before, is this the same company? They were having durability issues.
I can see an improvement for the cable mounting and interfacing, rather than having the cut ends at the scope. Could begin to fray and be an injury hazard.
Having the ends be under the mount/grip area, and using a ball ferrule type securing interface on the scope adjuster mount. Ball ferrules and a corresponding slot, are a common method of preventing slipping on a rotating control surface for cables like this.
Great concept, I noticed in the box it has spare wires.
Verbal command scopes that are patterned to your voice for your scope.
My only concern is the cable breaking or binding. That said it seems like a very solid gen 1 design.
Should be renamed the Gimmick Switch! 😂
This would be good for a competitive shooter.
Are those bike cables? Kind of the opposite of my idea for using a Picatinny setup for a modular system for fitting accessories to bike frames!!
I could see a use for it in a DMR or Sniper Support rifle. I really like LPVOs, and prism sights. I'm kind of "late on the bus" for dot sights, though. 😂
I guess that the picatinny rail has to run perfectly continuously from the upper to the handguard to make this work, right?
Or is there an intermediate part that can be shortened?
I was thinking that also. None of the light weight, top rail cut down in the middle types would work. Unless they have already made up a fix for that issue.
Seems like they would and market it as weight savings help. Use the lighter hand guard to offset additional weight added.
@@gavincline209 Some AR manufacturers do provide the continuous rail. However, as for me - I got a SIG716 with an LPVO. The rail does not run continuously into the handguard in a perfect manner. So there would have to be an intermediate part that can be filed down to make this device match. All in all, I think it's a cool solution though.
Its cool but it just seems like 1 more thing to go wrong
I hear you. Call me old school but back up irons still work and I'm finding the prism optics of today are on the leading edge of close to mid uses. Obviously there's a need for lpvos and hpvos but it just depends on the practical use.
@@Shep01 he has the wieght in the video
Most people only use 1x and the top magnification setting anyways… I expect a comeback of the Elcan type optics so an operator can easily switch between those two specific magnifications
Already watched brass facts break this looking at it wrong.
If they made one for the Vcog that would be cool. Would have to b durable and strong enough to turn the zoom knob.
I like the concept of an LPVO. I just can't get past the weight. And it seems like they're most often used at 1x and full magnification. On my SFAR I went with a Primary Arms Micro 5x and one of their offset red dot mounts with a Holosun SCS. The whole setup weighs about 11oz. Very happy with it. I did do a video on it if curious. But this is a neat concept!
Wire needs to be stronger and shielded.
Eh I really have my doubts that you arent breaking your grip/sight picture the same way. Yes I saw what you showed, but you didnt have a traditional grip when doing that. I did some testing on two of my firearms, moving my hand back and forth and up and adjusting a sight. They both did change my sight picture to some level most of the time. Maybe its different with the actual product but my thoughts.
I for one would like to see a torture test of this slider mechanism before buying it as the scope is less than the slider mechanism and even though I have to break my grip to adjust the power of my Tango MSR, I rarely change the power setting as I usually leave it at 3-4x.
This looks neat
What's up with the quality of the video?? Pixelated/blurred?
The zoom should be the inverse, as it would be easier to stabilize for long shots.
400$? I’ll just do it the old fashioned way. Pretty brilliant though
Cool but that’s a lot of moving parts and rail space being used
pretty cool
I’ve seen this before and just have not seen any real testing on it. I’d love to see the torture test on it so I can know how reliable it. Call me cheap but I don’t like question money on stuff that may not work. I wonder if they could do one with a roller on it to where it takes up less space. Like a contrasting knob.
Good luck finding them in stock.
Is it really the same gun when it's in a different calibre? Maybe it took the market to tell the people "Hey the 9mm is going to be the best calibre for most if not all shooters no matter age or disability, That was when Glock began with the different generations. How many generations have they made on the .45 line of pistols?
I’m all for new ideas. New innovations. I just don’t see this as one I need. That’s just me. But won’t get me wrong, I like this. And I guess in today’s world, the price point isn’t bad either. Though you can get a pretty decent LPVO for what it costs.
Now when they come out with one that, and I most definitely won’t be alive when they do, but if I am, I couldn’t afford it anyways, but when they come with one that I can move with just thinking it, hell, sign me up and if I can afford it, here, take my money. lol
I hope they continue to improve their product, great idea. JMO, the slide should increase the magnification in the optic by moving forward instead of rearward. the movement direction may vary with different scope mfgs, not sure....
Maybe a scope manufacturer needs to put a small electric motor inside the scope itself to move the magnificaton mechanism. Just spit balling...
Cute for a competition gun/range toy. Not what I'd want on my duty rifle. No desire to create additional failure points.
Very innovated. I like it. I've seen the auto version from shot show coverage. I'd stick with the slide model.
Run it and the spear throught the Gauntlet
Interesting and innovative product. My money will not be buying one. Best of luck to anyone who does buy one.
I bought a knock off version to test the concept and it just didn't give enough 'throw' on the mag ring. The scope i was using it was a Vortex PST II 1-6. It could only go 1-3.5 or 2.5 to 6 depending on how it was set up. Quite disappointed but glad I didn't throw away 4 x as much on the real version.
I was pretty drawn to this but like most firearms & accessories I have been waiting for any teething issues to get sorted out. Like to see a shutter of some sort to seal off the operating areas of the slider. I am think a gear driven system would be better but it’s hard to achieve the mechanical advantage necessary to rotate the power lever.
It’s hard to improve upon a product this innovative unless they sell well. Hopefully they can sustain long enough to bring something closer to “bulletproof” than it currently is. Saw some drunks with one and of course the idiots broke it. I hope we see some more improvements in time rather than then trying to offer a model for every rifle and scope under the ☀️ prior to doing so.
Antimatter scopes are cool, but, my body double, in the Navy, whom I've met by the way, has a patent for
A reality distorting particle beam, which uses antimatter to destroy, and create. They can be antimatter weapons, or welding tools, on a different setting.
I also have a patent through him for the TR3B "Black Manta," and other associated technologies that comprise it.
Of course, I also custom-make vehicles, and have things I probably haven't had patented yet, that are being researched, and when patented, and understood to be safe, they'll be at wal-mart someday. They still sell guns at Walmart, right? And electric scooters?
Did you say mud? Ummm yes! 😂
FYI This is a commercial not a review
An electric version would not be a good idea. The weight and complexity are not worth it. Plus there are other issues.
You need a way to set an end stop point for each direction, to keep the motor from wanting to keep turning, or attempt to, once the maximum rotation of the scope lever is reached.
Not having that would cause damage to the mechanism or motor, maybe even the scope.
Speed of adjustment is also a factor.
A fast motor would make it difficult to choose an intermediate magnification level in between minimum and maximum. It would also run a higher damage risk if there were no end stops to limit the mechanism.
A slow motor that allowed for you to be more precise in your chosen magnification level would be annoying to use, especially when you are in a hurry.
And you have the fact that almost certainly you would need gearing to make the motor do its job, and depending on how the gearing is setup, it could make it impossible to manually adjust the lever.
If you could manually adjust the lever, that would force drive the motor, which could damage the electrical components due to induced voltage.
An electric version is a bad idea all around.
Plus, on top of all that, you can use this manual version both more quickly and more precisely than an electric version would be able to manage. An electric version would be the inferior product.
Wow i just spent 2400$ on ACOG with red dot on top. If I had known about this I would’ve got the LPVO literally having to take hand off gun and adjust scope is what turned me off to it too.
Tim, great stuff. What silencer/suppressor do you recommend for your Sig there?
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Adding more moving parts just increases your odds of having a mechanical failure.
cool!
I think the height would make this useful for hunting AR'S as well. I have a good Vortex Scope on mine currently but see this as a need for it since game doesn't walk predicably to a known yardage and pose for a shot. I would like not necessarily a torture test, but more of a field test with fibe grain sand/playground sand and water poured on then rinsed as a person might experience out here in The mountains of Utah, Colorado and Wyoming.
I've seen videos of the electric one and that is the way I want to go. They are using an 18650 li-ion cell in it so it will have plenty of power.
That's gonna be a big ass battery. Like the size of the magazine.
@@jason200912 an 18650 is only 18mm diameter and 65mm long. It fits in the base of the mount between the rail and the rings.
It's a motorcycle throttle....
Basically. I expect the throttle cables for motorcycles are more robust and cheaper.
It wasn’t very long ago that LPVO scopes were used primarily for big game rifles or dangerous game rifles for African safaris. They didn’t cost anywhere close to what these multi thousand dollar ones cost today. In fact they were only around $300-$500 and these were the top tier brands.
Great gun with a great scope ❤️
Seems "nifty" - not bad, kind of "neat-o" but is it all that practical? Not in my opinion. You still have to adjust your shooting grip to change your zoom, and if you have accessories set up with a specific index point in mind, it really won't work with this. I'll stick to LPVO + offset red dot for fast transitions.
Thanks for sharing this information 😅
Interesting design.
I think it will be viable in another two or 3 versions
They have an electronic one now
Torture test it! Maybe 2nd generation will have a motor assist for those LPVOs with tough wheels.
No…
My question is this; Who can justify several hundred dollars for a magnification switch that's 2 second faster?
Exactly!
Looks like your Spear isn't running over gassed suppressed are you running the SLX or SLH my 16" with SRD762Ti is sending cases at the 1 o'clock I figure it is the increased back pressure due to "traditional baffle design" what do you think Mac? @Militaryarmschannel
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Let's gauntlet this thing!
Pretty sure I've seen them break easily