Brooks Hyperion Max 2 Review: Redesigned for a Super-Smooth, Unbelievably-Comfortable Ride
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
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Brooks Hyperion Max
26/34/8mm
Brooks Hyperion Max2
32/38/6mm
Forefoot stack increased by 6mm / heel stack increased by 4mm.
Offset changed from 8mm -> 6mm.
Weight: Max1(213g) -> Max2(258g)
Increased by 45g.
The midsole has been changed to DNA FLASH v2, and the cushioning has improved.
As the height increased, the bounce also improved.
The 45g weight increase is very disappointing
Because of the plate
Weight is not everything. Look at the prime x strung 2. It weighs more but is propulsive don’t judge things by weight alone.
Been waiting for these. Thanks for an awesome review.
I love the max 1s I’ll try these when they get less expensive
A similar shoe that excites me even more and is more budget friendly is the Topo Spector 2 coming out in August. Same type of geometry as the Max 2 but with no plate. The midsole is 100% pebax. 37/32 stack with a 5mm drop which is similar to the Max 2, but way lighter at only 7.6 oz. in a size 9. Retail is only $165. This is a more cushion long run version of the Topo Cyclone 2 and the Cyclone 2 in its category which includes the Brooks Hyperion imo shreds the competition.
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How does the cyclone 2 feel in terms of stability? I seem to do poorly with shoes with high or soft midsoles. I currently run with a Mizuno Wave Rider 25 and Saucony Triumph 20, and even though I like the energy return of the Triumph 20 midsole I seem to run better with the firmer and more stable Wave Rider. I’ve also got a Puma Velocity Nitro 2 and to me the midsole feels pretty dead and the heel feels mushy and a bit unstable. Great Puma Grip outsole though makes it a good trail shoe.
@@iakona23
I supinate or underpronate so I'm not the best person to ask when it comes to stability. However, I can compare them to the Puma Volocity Nitro 2 because I own them as well. Their polar opposites. The Cyclone 2 is much more minimalistic more like the Puma Nitro Liberate but with a wider toebox. Unlike the Volocity 2, the Cyclone 2 is very flexable and has a late stage rocker for added toe spring. The all peba midsole is more responsive than the Nitro injected midsole of the PNV2. It also has much more ground feel where the more effort you put into the shoe the more your rewarded. Topo gives a 30 day trial period where you can't lose. Return them used if your unsatisfied for a full refund. They run long so go down a half size.
@@jefreywith1f924 Thank you. Fantastic reply. I think I will give the Cyclone 2 a try. For whatever reason I don’t seem to do as well with shoes with high stack height or very soft midsoles. I also did well with the On Running Cloudstratus 2, but that shoe was rather firm and stable. Believe it or not, I can actually run in a Vivobarefoot Primus shoe by adding a Peba insole (Boomerang footbed) for some needed cushioning.
@@jefreywith1f924 the midsole on the Velocity Nitro 2 is pretty dead feeling on hard pavement. It reminds me a bit of the ASICS Cumulus 23 except with a less stable heel . But it feels ok on dirt trails and it’s helped by the excellent Pumagrip outsole.
Just picked up a pair of these. Coming out of the Saucony Kinvara Pro and I’m looking forward to seeing how these stack up
At $180, Brooks could have brought the weight down to something more respectable and more responsive by using Pebax foam instead of EVA foam. The Saucony Endorphin Speed has a plastic plate and uses Pebax and retails for $10 less and is much lighter. Plus, Pebax performs a lot better in cold and hot weather than EVA.
Exactly
Great review, I found the Hyperion Max 1 a bit long and narrow in the toebox... Is V2 wider in the toebox and midfoot?
Hyperion 2 becomes the successor of Hyperion Max v1
No. Not exactly. The geometries are different. If it's like its predecessor, Hyperion 2 will have a more traditional flat type more geometry with some flex compared to the more rigid curvature rocker geometry that rolls you forward that's found on the Max 1.
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@@jefreywith1f924 H2 will increase its stack to be nearly the same as HM1 and likely having the same drop tho.
@DarkPa1adin
Yes, Hyperion 2 will have nearly the same stack height and drop as the Hyperion Max 1, but the distinctive difference is that very pronounced rocker the HM1 has that the H2 doesn't have as far as the previews suggest.For me, as a forefoot striker who lands on the balls of my feet, the rocker is situated perfectly in a spot where I am able to roll quickly onto my toes as I push off. It's all good because now I can buy more of the HM1 at a substantial discount.
@@jefreywith1f924 So you're saying the rocker is a different shape? I haven't the H2 in person yet but it does seem exactly the same as Max1 at a glance.
How does it compare to the Saucony Speed 4? Looks like a interesting shoe.
How do you think is the arch support compared with other brands like Asics and Adidas? Thanks.
Do you feel plate at all? 2mm isn't very much extra foam, usually the plated shoes have more stack. How would it compare to Endorphin Speed 4 with it's nylon plate?
They need a GTS version of this for us stability people
The first version felt weird when walking I guess due to the rocker at the back of the shoe It felt like I was rolling backwards. Does the new version feel the same ?
When are you going to sell these in men’s size 15?
Do you know if it’s coming in wide width?
Which Brooks would you recommend for high arch
What is the europe release date?
Did you get these stack heights from Brooks? It seems low I thought it was 36/30
Yep! Directly from their spec sheet. I am assuming it doesnt include the insert and outsole.
"The final synopsis is my own" where was it? it's just not the same🦋👣
Looks narrow in th forefoot. Is it?
wish they had different colorways
can you confirm if the 30-24mm stack height is the total stack (outsole + midsole + insole) or only the midsole?
The 30/24 is not the total stack height. Brooks measures only the midsole height to calculate stack height. Outsole height is not added. Not sure if insole height is added. The true total stack height for the Max 2 is 36/30.
@@jefreywith1f924 yeah, I guess that's right. Insoles are usually 3-5mm, and outsole rubber thickness for road shoes are about 2-3mm..
So most likely insole 4mm and outsole 2mm.
@@aristodiga82
The 36/30 was confirmed by a Brooks rep. who verified it on another channel.
Neither the stacks heights are the ones mentioned nor the plate is made of plastic....
It looks like the glycerin.
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Terrible midsole
Have you worn it? I kind of doubt it since it's not on sale yet.