I just bought those Bora WTO wheels (not the Bora Ultra) for 2250 euro. They are superb and as long as Campagnolo builds some of the best and most durable wheels out there, the ship isn't going to sink any time soon. People pay 3000+ euro for ENVE SES hookless... Happily pumping water out of the ship so it stays afloat!
@@ThePaulKat I never said they SANK. I said they keep having enough time to rebuild ANOTHER boat. That, right there means they a 'FLOATING' the high seas
They’re making some bizarre business decisions lately. Why they’re doing all this and still haven’t produced a wireless electronic Ekar groupset is beyond me.
@@PathLessPedaledTV so you're complaining that their 2000+ euro powermeter crank doesn't come in 165 because it's the latest fashion and you were going to buy this, yes?
@@PathLessPedaledTV If you believe in a 'one cranklength fits all' approach, you're watching too many youtube 'influencers'. And you have your 165mm in the non-Campa powered version. As if you were in the market for that powermeter... Complaining about something you can't even afford. Go back to your 4iii.
I wish we had 2011 again, when a new group brought 1 additional gear (11-speed) and the weight was less. Nowadays we get a lot of fancy technology, that we can barely maintain, we have to remember to charge it a night before we spontaneously want to ride and the weight is getting to the same level as a late nightlies aluminum bike. The only good thing is braking in wet got better and rims last nearly for ever now that they are no breaking surface anymore, at least until we get a massiv puncture. But the worst of all, all of the before mentioned cost unbelievable more money. As someone who started riding in the 90ies I feel a little, little bit fooled, not just by Campagnolo.
There's still one team that use Campagnolo. The question is why do the other teams don't use it? It could be down to marketing budget of the components manufacturers.
I don´t care about the powermeter. Campagnolo soul make a electronic version of Ear. I have the normal version and love using it. They should also come with wireless for Record and Chorus to get more customers in. Shamal with deeper profile could be good. So they do have some catching up to do.
Any chance you'll be doing a review of the Magene PES 505 power meters anytime soon? By far they seem like thee most value for money power meters available on the market today.
They really need a Chorus-level wireless groupset priced to compete with Ultegra. Leave an Uber-groupset for gentleman cyclists and dentists, and a cheaper group sufficiently removed price- and perception-wise so people won’t cross-shop between the two. And keep a Record-level mechanical/rim brake groupset for the luddites who want the best for their beloved Colnago that gets ridden a few sunny days/year
Prob has a special battery that needs a specific connector and a subscription app. And a special tool priced at €200euros to access the battery. Surely its cheaper to go to power meter pedals. No doubt the cassette is £100s
I remember my 9 speed record being fantastic. It lasted 7 years. Year after year the price went up, my last 2 sets have been mid range Shimano di2. They lost a fan boy here
The only good thing about that power meter is the CULT bearings which are long lasting and spin forever. The rest is overpriced heavy and difficult to find a shop who will know how to work on it properly
The only people in the road scene where I live that even care about Campagnolo anymore are 50+ dudes. Everyone 40's and younger pays zero attention to them and that is not going to change, it's all Dura Ace and Red.
As with most things you get what you pay for. The Shimano power meter is absolutely worthless junk while their standard cranks catastrophically fail for fun. Credit where credit is due Sram are superb at dealing with their inevitable product recalls. That leaves Campagnolo and the premium that comes with it, however unlike the other offerings you do indeed get a premium product. Very soon Shimano & Sram will loose a significant share of their OEM market to the emerging Chinese groupset manufacturers, this will leave them scrabbling with mid tier upgrades as they won’t be able to compete with the Chinese at the lower end or Campagnolo at the premium end.
TBH this gen campy SR is the ugliest campy groupset I have ever seen since I started riding, and it takes away some of my holy imagination about campy groupsets. This is also the first time since I started riding, I wanted an order version of groupsets. No hates, just personal feelings. Please bring back thumb shifters and slim looking derailleur
Better use Chinese crap ypourself. A friend of mine has changed a third Chinese electronic rear deraileur in half a year. They keep on failing. Poor design and quality controll. I would avoid those by a mile.
Campagnolo is like that huge ship that's sinking. But so slowly, you have enough time to build another ship!
Then Super Record is the flag-ship! 🤦♂
@@wouterdobbelaere super wreck hoard
I just bought those Bora WTO wheels (not the Bora Ultra) for 2250 euro. They are superb and as long as Campagnolo builds some of the best and most durable wheels out there, the ship isn't going to sink any time soon. People pay 3000+ euro for ENVE SES hookless...
Happily pumping water out of the ship so it stays afloat!
Obviously you haven't seen their profits then. They are very buoyant.
@@ThePaulKat I never said they SANK. I said they keep having enough time to rebuild ANOTHER boat. That, right there means they a 'FLOATING' the high seas
I love Campagnolo but these prices are ridiculous same with the group set.. I’ll stick with mechanical and power meter pedals 😊 Pete 🚴🏻👍
They’re making some bizarre business decisions lately. Why they’re doing all this and still haven’t produced a wireless electronic Ekar groupset is beyond me.
The new Bora Ultra WTO 45's weigh 1325g. The previous model weighs 1425g.
165 is the new 170. Campag already 5 years behind.
How so? I've been riding 165 Campy cranks for the past 6 years.
@@colnagog6026 they’re new crankset isn’t offered in 165
@@PathLessPedaledTV so you're complaining that their 2000+ euro powermeter crank doesn't come in 165 because it's the latest fashion and you were going to buy this, yes?
@@l.d.t.6327 latest fashion? As in the most reasonable and beneficial change rather than adding more gears and motors. Yes.
@@PathLessPedaledTV If you believe in a 'one cranklength fits all' approach, you're watching too many youtube 'influencers'. And you have your 165mm in the non-Campa powered version. As if you were in the market for that powermeter... Complaining about something you can't even afford. Go back to your 4iii.
€2250 for a power meter? Why not 10K straight? Bike manufacturers are completely out of touch!
I wish we had 2011 again, when a new group brought 1 additional gear (11-speed) and the weight was less. Nowadays we get a lot of fancy technology, that we can barely maintain, we have to remember to charge it a night before we spontaneously want to ride and the weight is getting to the same level as a late nightlies aluminum bike. The only good thing is braking in wet got better and rims last nearly for ever now that they are no breaking surface anymore, at least until we get a massiv puncture.
But the worst of all, all of the before mentioned cost unbelievable more money. As someone who started riding in the 90ies I feel a little, little bit fooled, not just by Campagnolo.
If professional cycling team are no longer using Campagnolo, then who does?
There's still one team that use Campagnolo. The question is why do the other teams don't use it? It could be down to marketing budget of the components manufacturers.
Team boomers and team dentists are still with campag
Power meter of the people 😳
I don´t care about the powermeter.
Campagnolo soul make a electronic version of Ear.
I have the normal version and love using it.
They should also come with wireless for Record and Chorus to get more customers in.
Shamal with deeper profile could be good.
So they do have some catching up to do.
Any chance you'll be doing a review of the Magene PES 505 power meters anytime soon? By far they seem like thee most value for money power meters available on the market today.
They really need a Chorus-level wireless groupset priced to compete with Ultegra. Leave an Uber-groupset for gentleman cyclists and dentists, and a cheaper group sufficiently removed price- and perception-wise so people won’t cross-shop between the two. And keep a Record-level mechanical/rim brake groupset for the luddites who want the best for their beloved Colnago that gets ridden a few sunny days/year
Prob has a special battery that needs a specific connector and a subscription app. And a special tool priced at €200euros to access the battery. Surely its cheaper to go to power meter pedals. No doubt the cassette is £100s
I remember my 9 speed record being fantastic. It lasted 7 years. Year after year the price went up, my last 2 sets have been mid range Shimano di2. They lost a fan boy here
Beautiful ❤
Beyond pro level, this is dentist level.
The only good thing about that power meter is the CULT bearings which are long lasting and spin forever. The rest is overpriced heavy and difficult to find a shop who will know how to work on it properly
The only people in the road scene where I live that even care about Campagnolo anymore are 50+ dudes. Everyone 40's and younger pays zero attention to them and that is not going to change, it's all Dura Ace and Red.
As with most things you get what you pay for. The Shimano power meter is absolutely worthless junk while their standard cranks catastrophically fail for fun. Credit where credit is due Sram are superb at dealing with their inevitable product recalls.
That leaves Campagnolo and the premium that comes with it, however unlike the other offerings you do indeed get a premium product. Very soon Shimano & Sram will loose a significant share of their OEM market to the emerging Chinese groupset manufacturers, this will leave them scrabbling with mid tier upgrades as they won’t be able to compete with the Chinese at the lower end or Campagnolo at the premium end.
😂
@@nernsteinstien Shimano & Sram won't be laughing 😆
The power meter looks ok but that rear mech looks terrible. It looks like it has been bodged with a hanger extender.
TBH this gen campy SR is the ugliest campy groupset I have ever seen since I started riding, and it takes away some of my holy imagination about campy groupsets. This is also the first time since I started riding, I wanted an order version of groupsets. No hates, just personal feelings. Please bring back thumb shifters and slim looking derailleur
IT'S important to read your title again before posting
Imagine paying $2500 for a power meter 😂😂😂😂
Plenty do & have SRM for example
Over priced do we need it sorry I'm old school rim brakes and mercancal gearing
Looks like they're tired of being in business.... Bankruptcy and a buy out is the future for this brand. The name is worth more than the product.
Campy. Expensive for no reason and ugly to boot. How much long they got? Realistically?
For all the haters. Work more than maybe you can also buy a made in italy quality product 😂
If you're buying Campagnolo, you are a fool
🙄🤣🤣
Have fan with your 105😂
Just go for a power2max bulletproof they are
ELILEE X series cranks with any chinese spider based power meter rapes this rubbish for a fraction of the price
Better use Chinese crap ypourself. A friend of mine has changed a third Chinese electronic rear deraileur in half a year. They keep on failing. Poor design and quality controll. I would avoid those by a mile.