Jason Hickel: ‘Our addiction to economic growth is killing us’ - Viewsnight
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- In this Viewsnight, anthropologist Jason Hickel asks if economic growth really makes our lives better. He is the author of The Divide: A Brief Guide to Global Inequality and its Solutions. Viewsnight is BBC Newsnight's place for ideas and opinion. More on the Viewsnight playlist • Viewsnight
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Shout out to my fellow students watching this for GSTS :>
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Not all heroes wear capes hahahaha
I can imagine... Yack.
Absolutely agree.
Still got your smartphone?
Jason’s words about degrowth are not only for critical understanding and adherence but he also warns us of the urgency to do it. He is the truest ecologist and humanist of the modern world.
Truth is BEAUTIFUL! Thank you for sharing this, BBC! 😘
Truth is beautiful, but the degrowth idea is based on lies, which is very very ugly, with very very ugly outcomes.
Incredible how such simple logic confounds us all
... Is pulling the wool over our eyes, you mean.
If you let him.
Look around you, people want more and more, they demand things immeadiately, everything has to be 24/7, faster and quicker, more greed and more selfish. And I don't see people becoming any happier. I don't see people becoming more content. We need to slow down, appreciate what we have got and be more humble. What we want and what we need, have been confused.
Right on point.
Yep its called Regenerism
Jason i am sooooo much glad to see this upload as atleast some group of people have been realise this truth. Thanks a lot and keep sharing every human being on planet should understand this important situation. Even must teach in school, college. Thats why some rich people after knowing this turned to minimalistic lifestyle,stress free and natural life with nature and family. Economy and science are big tools we have need to use very wisely for next generation and to preserve our mom planet.
Humanity's greatest resource is ingenuity. When a resource becomes too scarce, we change what we do or how we do it. We don't need certain resources. We need certain things - food, heat, water, transportation, etc. How we accomplish these is up to us. We can decouple growth from materials.
Love his books
There has been a fair degree of understanding about this since the 1970s.. (e.g. "The Limits to Growth" (1973) Donella H. Meadows, Dennis L. Meadows, Jørgen Randers, and William W. Behrens III). Climate change was already a concern since the 1960s and initially observed in early 1900s. This message still needs to be said and this particular message has been expressed very clearly.
Agree. However, realistic models for alternative economies need to emerge from a new sociopolitical and economic system. They cannot be imposed. Such viable alternatives need to be spelled out in terms that are accessible to the common people so that increased awareness may finally push back against the repressive global 'free markets' of today.
Mother Nature doesn't 'impose' - it's for our world to understand.
What really troubles me is that we are really bad at rationale and good at intuition that is killing us.
Try to explain a psychpath compation.
Every 6th of CEOs is one of them.
Plenty material on internet to coroborate that sad fact.
Yep exactly...its called Regenerism...wow why didn't I think of this......yahoo
There is no "model". If you interfere in voluntary interaction all you will do is piss everyone off.
"Try to explain a psychpath compation.
Every 6th of CEOs is one of them."
Haha F you. Every 99 out of 100 leftists' is.
We created a system that is fairly competent in climbing the mountain wall of growth, yet we have never determined what is on top of this wall and when or how we might reach it.
You gaze at the mountain, Children of Terra, you see its snow-capped peak and the clouds upon its slopes. You dream of reaching that pinnacle and drinking the cold waters. But who dreams of the road that ascends the mountain side? The road to the peak is hard and murderous. It has broken countless Children of Terra upon its rocks. Their splintered bones lie scattered upon it, paving the way to the mountain top. At every step you will hear the bones crumbling under foot, and maybe you shall hear the wind-blown voices of the dead - guiding you forward or leading you to your doom. Yes, my children, the way to the mountain is cruel and unforgiving. And of those who struggle their long lives, spending their energy and vigour in the climb, who then can taste the melt-water of the summit and say, 'Yes... yes it was worthwhile?'
2 deep 4 me
Yup!
Socialists are the only ones obsessed with the imagined idea of "growth" and "capitalism" (a socialist term). Voluntary economic interaction is only everyone's attempt to accomplish their current desires. It is not necessarily the same as "growth". But it is the only thing that improves lives. Not threatening people and centrally planning every petty thing.
I strongly agree
we should think of the consequences.....
Everyone needs to understand this.
This is a circle jerk.
Hi sa mga gumagawa ng essay para sa STS activity, HAHAHAHAHA!
Nice
Online class brought me here. 😂
Am trying to get James O'Brien on LBC to underpin all his socio economic nonsense to assimilating these wise words from Dr. Hickel so we can all survive and thrive past 2030...We need an action plan of brainstorming all 8 billion of us to assimilate and act the antidote to economic (and not political) capitalism. Hey ho and off we go.....
I agree❣️
GSTS?
Well, plenty of people suggest new systems, but are they even feasible to implement? It is easy to create a fantasy world. It is difficult to implement something into reality
That's why leftists resort to government force.
Why would deliberately not growing the economy be "unfeasible"? Why do we need to obey the so called laws of supply and demand? Within a free market economy, yes inflation and fiscal drag will immediately be an issue if we stop growth. We don't have to adhere to the free market however. The only solutions will/would be a merit based system of setting wages and price limits. Popularity of product and demand of skillset should not be the main factor that determines the income a business receives. I understand that it's not logical to subsidize all conceivable services that supposedly benefit society, if nobody benefits from the product in question. But we have to think more about matching wages to say difficulty, stress and risk involved, benefit to society; not this mindless race to maximize wealth, that only takes away wealth from the vast majority, depleting primary resources etc. It would be feasible to implement pacifically if enough people want this. If not, violence and unrest in one form or another is bound to grow.
you can't kill consumerism, people will sooner agree on making a playstation 5 free than agreeing on never making them
You don't need 31 flavors of deodorant.
-crazy old guy talks about petty things
Andito ako para sa essay namin huhuhuhuju
Haha same .
Likewise 😊
Mindfulness has nothing to do with politics and assumptions about how to fix society. Mindfulness is about the individual fixing the individual.
Agreed
Janson is talking about a real threat that is staring in our faces. He is right that a countries progress should not be meaured purely by GDP but by substrating the environmmental and social costs incurred in creating that GDP. If that is considered most developed economies will have a low GDP growth.
One is not suggesting that live in poverty. Live in comfort, but do not waste resources. Stick to needs and not conspicuous consumption.
There is a serious need now, more than ever before, to follow the teaachings of the Indian vedic texts and Upnishads and other literature that spell out how human beings should like in harmony with nature. They can live a comfortable life style without necessarily destroying nature. This, by adopting a life of spriutality, low desires and needs.
People can do all that if they want to. But if they don't, too bad.
Totally correct. Combine this with the anarchist one and we have a solution ;-)
Really? Looks like you and your camarades dont take into consideration HUMAN NATURE and big muscles effect.
We will change, just too late on
We need to stop creating so many overconsumers as well as overconsuming ourselves.
The economy is not a zero sum game.
But earth's resources is and our economy is based upon that. What you are talking about is really chrematistics and have nothing to do with economics at all.
My STS subject brought me here
The Venus Project has some ideas about how this can be done
Let's begin with them: downgrade their wages, close the faculty - which consumes a lot of resources. When they show us how happy they are with their new lifestyles, only then I will begin to consider that proposal.
Of course, it's the usual dream of the "vanguard of a new era" who wants to make social experiments with little people.
Well no, we'll have to keep the universities open. Otherwise this guy's livelihood will be a stake. And since he's the centre of the universe, we obviously don't want that.
I love you! I support you 100%.
Though Mankind is at the brink of this great apotheosis, you must be ever vigilant for the stillborn harbingers of this change. Where you seek the pure and strong, there too will you find the impure and weak. Where you find but one worthy of life, you will also find a million twisted, deformed monstrosities for whom death by your hand is a mercy. Therefore, look first for the mutant, for he may never hide his sin from you, and in his midst there will be revealed to you that which you seek. But be ever vigilant, for even should you find one with the gift, only one in a thousand liberals will be strong enough to resist the perils of the victimhood and be allowed to live.
Yep totally. As it has to be regenerative, lets go with REGENERISM
Nc
Watching here
#Ustp student
This guy surely has a tablet, an iPhone, a car, he is travelling long distances by plane, he dress fashionable cloth and lives in a city like London or so. De-growth for the others, not for me. His standard of living, beginning with the very fact that he is a native speaker of English and has had access to a great education, is out of reach for the majority of people of the emerging world.
He's actually from Swaziland.
He is talking about rich countries that have an unhealthy addiction to growth, not developing or under-developed ones.
@@simonstott6571Naive _and_ suicidal?
@@mk71b idk what this is about but i no longer agree with whatever the fuck i said 2 years ago
it should be down to a personal level, The guys that change their cars every two years, takes that job that is 50 miles away rather than 2 miles, Can not fix or repair a thing, Don't know when to quick the rat race because they need that Million bucks, Fly to Oz for a two weeks holiday when they have not seen their own country. etc etc.
yeah true, but you could also argue a state has a far greater potential capacity to create change
I'm doing my part by driving 100 miles every day. Blowme.
"a state has a far greater potential capacity to create change"
Indeed. All hale statism.
The reality is quite the opposite. Economic growth actually benefits the environment. If you look at the poorest nations in the world you will find environmentalism is at the very bottom of their list of priorities. Whereas concern for the environment is highest in the rich first world. Innovation and investment drives progress. Which is dependent on economic growth. And progress is what we need in order to find alternative sources of resources and energy.
Jason Hickel is an anthropologist. Anthropology is one of the 'social sciences'. A highly politicised section of the humanities. He has written on the need to move away from the capitalist system in order to eradicate 'inequality'. However, the problem still facing much of the world is not inequality. But poverty. And if you are looking for a system that best combats poverty, then look no further than capitalism.
And on a purely self interested basis, Jason Hickel should be careful what he wishes for. As the social sciences would be the first to lose their funding if society decided to cut out waste and the unnecessary allocation of resources.
I did watch the video, you fuckin moron. You want to measure economic growth by 'GPI'? Well, ok then. India's infant mortality rate has been dropping steadily since the sixties. It is now a quarter of what is was 50 years ago. That's real progress. While it's GDP per capita has massively increased. As has life expectancy. Sorry if that doesn't sound good news to you. But I'm pretty sure it is to your average Indian.
I see. So high infant mortality rates and early death are no big deal. Because smog levels are the true measure of GPI? You and he should re-evaluate your priorities.
What a complete pile of ideological shit. Be happy to call you on every single one of your points. This is nonsense on stilts.
you chose the wrong thing to comment. yeah blah blah blah greater industrialisation means greater ecological returns. lets be real, you see any of that shit happening? the richest countries in the world aren't doing enough
Why not immediately deploy a few dozen neutron bombs as the great 'equalizer'? That's even simpler. 😏
Wishful thinking!! Only Jesus Christ who cares & sacrifice for others. Looking forward to his return/ kingdom of God.
sorry to break it to you. but doesn't look like he's coming this year
hes right on one thing governments aiming for for just higher gdp and how they do it aint great, annual gdp is flows of money in one year nothing more, gdp per capita is flows of money divided between the population , gpd per capita is the best indicator to see if a population is better or worse of, the trouble every rising population has is if population rises 1 percent gdp must rise 1 percent or you are worse of lol , and nobody wants to be worse of! lol so environmentalist are probably not so helpful on this subject lol
You mean Capitalism!