Rural/Off Grid Internet Solution | Mofi 4500 & Visible Wireless
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- Rural internet options are horribly limited and it can be hard to find reliable fast connections where you live.
The Mofi 4500 router paired with the unlimited un-throttled wireless plan by Visible might be the solution for you!
Be sure to activate the visible SIM card in a phone to activate before using in the router.
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Thank you! Moving to rural west Georgia in a few weeks. Trying to get ahead of moving in and being annoyed on day 1 with little to no internet. Subscribed.
We have been watching your channel since you started building. We love your home. Congrats on your career change.
We will be moving to “the woods” shortly. Have seen the mofi 4500. But not the visible SIM card Much thanks.
Thank you for your kind words and support!
I'm a country girl and my husband is a city boy... so finding a way to live to keep us both happy is a challenge. Good internet is definitely a must for both of us! Thanks so much for the review!
I hear that! Thanks for watching!
Thanks a lot for this video! My husband and I are in IT, and plan to move out of the city in a few years. He is a network administrator, and this will help get us going!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Check out starlink as well by the end of 2021
50 mb down and 150 mb up is what they plan to get to
@@nathantschappler9191 I signed up for beta but haven't been selected. Crossing my fingers it'll be available by the time we are outside our small city.
Nice to see someone confirm visible works on the mofi4500 router, thanks!
You’re welcome!
We just went with BOIP out of Richmond and we live in Tidewater VA. Our internet sucked using Verizon WiFi hotspots and the throttling and data cap woes. I can't believe how great the setup is you describe in this video. They do the setup for a pretty penny, but it is sooo worth it to get the speeds we get now. Especially for a CZcamsr/Influencer running a channel like us. Great Video by the way. You got a subscribe from me.
Thank you, I appreciate it! We are still tweaking our setup as we go but it’s way better than satellite. 🙂
When I first started watching you, I thought wow this dude is in Montana or something... Nope in the sticks of the DMV. Who knew !! Still close to the city when you need to be.
Hahaha yup! 🙂
Great info! It's great to see a fellow Virginian on here!! Best wishes and better days ahead!
Thank you! 🙂
I believe the key to not having the wireless carrier suspend your account is using an LTE modem with the ability to set custom time to live (TTL) settings. The Mofi is one of the few devices out there that allows this. If TTL is set to 65 if I'm not mistaken, this tricks the carrier into thinking that the data usage is all streaming data from a smartphone and not tethered data from a LTE modem device, which most carriers are usually stricter about.
Especially when that plan you are using, doesn't approve use in a dedicated hotspot device (not a data/hotspot only plan).
I recommend instead to use/activate a phone w/ a signal booster if needed to use as a home phone (as either way you are paying for unlimited calls/texts, and gives you a nice alternative number to hand out), and hotspot straight off that. Even hot-spotting to a mobile router that then shares on a secondary network is less risky.
@@MasicoreLord That's a good point. I came up with a loophole solution that works well with Visible. I bought a Teltonika RUT240 LTE modem/router for home failover internet when my cable goes out. It functions as a WIFI router, but also has the ability to act as a wireless station to pull its WAN connection from another access point. Visible wireless allows unlimited tethered data from a smartphone's hotspot, but the bandwidth is capped at 5 MB/s and only 1 device may be connected at a time. To get around the 1 device limit, if I connect the RUT240's wireless station to my phone's hotspot, and then connect all devices in my home to the RUT240's LAN, I am able to share my phone's hotspot with everything if my main cable internet goes out.
@@cosmiclawnmower9818 It depends on your phone if you can connect more than once device. I use iPhone and I've had up to three devices connected at one time but only used one device at a time. For example my laptop and Smart TV and Firestick. Reports are some Android phones you can connect more than once device.
@@gamingwithstand6886 that's all fine and dandy but using three devices on a hotspot will slow you down slower than a snail on a dying deathbed.
I am in rural VA as well. I use the mofi 4500 with spint/tmobile I used it with the Surecall Fusion4Home cellular booster with an omni directional antenna. I have been able to get signal strength at 44dBm and speeds in the double digits ...... mind you I have a cell tower less than a mile away though 😀
It is definitely a great way to get 4glte internet in the house.
does this use your hotspot data?
I started our with Verizon prepay till they shut off the data on the account. Then I tried Page+ till they necked down my speeds every three weeks. Then I tried out Visible and it works great! Some days I get up to 25-30s on downloads, but usually I am 10-15 for downloads. I am just using the antennas with the MoFi at a window in the house that is facing the cell tower about 6 miles away. I also turned off the WiFi on the MoFi and use a NightHawk router to manage the WiFi in the house.
Great intel - appreciate the review. Looks like a killer router/antenna setup. How is it with video streaming? I noticed you were streaming 2 videos at once. Visible's website states that streaming is at 480p. Is that throttling noticeable? Also, do you use a Chromecast for streaming shows or CZcams? If so, how well does it work? Thanks!
To keep visible from shutting u down, did u change the time to live time?
You get twice the speed I do on a DSL line (CenturyLink) at less than half the price. Good for you.
Thanks 🙂
See that little white spot in southwest NH? That tiny little speck of no Verizon service (or anyone else for that matter?) Yea, that's us.
Great video. Should help a lot of folks.
Aw man I see it! Dang that sucks! How do people even you cell phones in that area?!
@@LittleMountainLife You have them connected to the wifi in your house.
And we have a landline.
Gotcha
I used to live in one of those dead zones... I moved 5 miles up the road! lol Except my dead zone had no cell reception, no internet anything and no landline... mailbox was half a mile away and trash pickup was 2 miles down the road. But had electricity! lol
That was a good bit of information. And all that good stuff
I live in rural KY and I've had luck using cricket/at&t with USB tethering/Hotspot thru an app. I have good coverage and lately even tested 5G which works surprisingly well. The one thing I wonder is, will an antenna such as grid or the others help lower my latency? That's the one thing I could use for gaming if it would significantly help.
BTW I tried Visible but I guess I have bad Verizon coverage. I didn't get a signal till I was 5-10 miles closer to the city lol. Oh well worth a try.
Thank you!
You're welcome!
I just checked visible cell range coverage and it says i have 5g. So what would i need to do? I buy a phone from them and use that as a "hot spot"?
I had issues not staying connected to pageplus after implementing band lock on a band and found the reboot initiated through the software interface doesn't apparently clear out something. Once I physically power off then back on the Mofi4500 SIM7 stayed connected and I am running on 2 days straight with no issues. I am up to 36GB on their unlimited $55/month plan that states it could be throttled when I hit 60GB. Some state that as long as you stay under 200GB your ok.
I can't get mine to go past 3Mpbs . I have the Night-Hawk router but it should bet better than that . Any suggestion would help
For sure one thing the city life is good for is super fast internet 😄
True story. 🙂
That router is over priced.
What was your configuration for visible in the Mofi set up
Aw shit. I been complaining about my 180 mbps and 10 ping 😭😭😭 I'm sorry you're going thru this. Shoutout to all my rural people living that way of life!
Dude I just had 120 mbps down in the city. Moved to the mountains and I have to scrounge for 20 mbps at an insane price and there is a cap 🤦♂️🤦♂️
lol my last speed test during the slowest part of the day was 0.5 mbps. of course, its verizon
Hi. I have a mofi and was wondering if it can be tethered when using visible? From a different video i gathered that you couldn't although I'm not sure if I'm understanding this all very well.
Not sure about tethering. All I know is that you can put a sim in the router for internet.
After six minutes of this video he finally gets to the point. Why do all these CZcamsrs feel they need to blah blah blah blah blah blah it’s not about you all the time guys
So sorry to disappoint you, James.
We know fast forwarding is difficult and being forced to watch a video is the worst thing ever. I’ll strive to be a better man when I wake up tomorrow because of your feedback.
We watched this video, got the same set up and decently happy with what we can get on our rural homestead.
We've got the Antenna up about 25 or 27', a uni-directional yagi type.
My question is can we put a bi-directional amplifier in the circuit between the Mofi and the outside antenna?
Anyone have a recommendation?
with the mofi4500, you can change the ttl from 64 to 65, letting the internet companies think all the data is coming from phone, not hotspot
That's what I've been wanting to do nd probably just end up switching between the two
Thank you
Welcome!
If the arrow on your map is pointing at your house, you are directly north of me by just a few miles! Harrisonburg is 40 minutes from my house. I am in the same boat as you. Work from home and got sick of DSL. I've had the Mofi 4500 for a couple of years now. But, had an outside company handling the sim card portion. They were charging me $140 a month. It was using AT&T with speeds of 32d and 5u. At&t shut off all of the cards. I dumped them but kept the mofi, as I generally paid for it for two years...lol... Anyway, trying to shop for sim cards and ran across your video. I have the 4500 sim7 model. Verizon confirmed that it would work with them, but of course they don't offer unlimited data. Spring/T-mobile tower is 5G but too far away from me and won't get good signal. I looked up my EMEI with Visible, but it says not compatible. This is not fun. You or anyone else have any other carrier that seems to work?
Thank you!
I’ll actually need it for work, I usually at home i connect directly to my wifi but when I travel (to the city 😂) I will love this option, for me not to depend on the hotel/Airbnb/camping wifi
If it’s for the city will you still recomend this router ?
Or another one in the cheaper side
This router will probably still work well in the city, you just shouldn't need the upgraded antennas.
Can you watch multiple devices at one time if I use my Visible hot spot I can only use it on one device?
Thank you. We already have a couple extra Visible Sim Cards used for extra phones. Do you know if this router will accept these sim cards for internet only use? Thanks!
Thanks for watching
Not sure about the comparability now since we switched back to T-Mobile
will keep in mind if I move to rural home that I am currently working toward!
Great! Thanks for watching!
I use visible. But I had to set up my phone to use their service. Does the router not have to be setup at all to recognize the provider???
Can you share the technical settings of your router? Did you do a plug-n-play? I am having a hard time setting it up.
Check out this video for help with settings. czcams.com/video/U-jmPfOzdKo/video.html
how do you change the nat type on the mofi 4500
Can you do a step by step to set up because I have no idea what I am doing or how to start?
How long to upload a 20 min. video to CZcams in 4K? I’d need to actually upload 1 hour 10GB (sometimes 15GB) video files to Vimeo, you have an estimate of how long that would take? I know the upload speed and actually uploading a video can be quite different. Thanks !
Usually around 30 minutes.
@@LittleMountainLife that ain’t bad at all! Thanks for the reply!
What do you mean by unthrottled speeds? They only allow 5mbs on hotspot
Excellent video - do you livestream btw? I'm curious how you find the latency on this sort of connection. Thanks!
Thanks!
We do livestream and have video calls weekly and the connection is fine. But we no longer use Visible and instead have been using T-Mobile
@@LittleMountainLife Why did you switch away from Visible and start using T-Mobile? Do you know if Visible will still work with the Mofi router?
@@DHD- T-Mobile upgraded the local towers and had faster speeds. It’s easier to deal with them since we have T-Mobile cell service
I’m about to pull the trigger on a MOFI 4500 and a Visible plan, few questions....so when choosing a “bring your own phone” on visible so they send me a SIM does it matter what phone I choose since the SIM will be put into the MOFI right from the start and only be used in that device and never really be put in a phone? Secondly, will I need to activate it somehow to where they will then know what device it is getting put into? Lastly, is this considered a post laid plan with preferred late service or a pre paid plan? Thanks so much!!
I don't know if it'll make a difference which phone you pick. I simply activated in my iphone and then put the sim in the mofi. I believe it's considered post paid. Check out this video for setting details. czcams.com/video/U-jmPfOzdKo/video.html
Do you have any problem with multiple devices tethered at the same time? We have been using Verizon phones on hotspot and the plan throttles us down very quickly. Does the network see this system as a phone that is being used as a hotspot?
The router makes the data appear as a hotspot with the right settings.
No issue with multiple devices.
Bro I know you’ve seen my vids on this. Why haven’t you gotten a parabolic grid? Their on amazon for 249$. The sim 7 is good but the sim 4 combo is great due to CA. So.. a parabolic is going to pretty much double or triple what you are already getting man. It’s 26 dB vs a Yagi which is 9. Keep one Yagi as a secondary antenna and use the parabolic for primary. It’s super directional but will blow your mind. Another thing that will blow your mind is it you tether a gaming router or any AC router to the mofi and use it as your source of WIFI through the mofi you’ll see a dramatic increase in speeds! I’ve obsessed for 2 years on this tried every setup and antenna possible lol. Best of luck good job explaining it and visible! 👍🏻. Just go on my channel I have dozens of vids on this stuff!
Haha I’ve watched all of your videos twice in the last 6 days! I’ve got the gaming router coming in the mail tomorrow and will definitely get the parabolic if that doesn’t get us above 25 mbps down. 👍🙂
John
How do I hook up the gaming router to my mofi ?
I’m on both visible and T-Mobile
@@harrishawker1 check out his channel. He breaks it down. 🙂
Finally someone who does their homework!! Well done and thank you 🤙
Nice
I live in Lincoln county West Virginia a few years ago we didn't even have a cell phone tower we do now just one one lonely tower I couldn't find these videos whenever I was hooking up my device I destroyed two devices trying to hook mine up but then I finally figured it out on the third I'm getting some of those antennas on Wednesday they're not exactly the ones you got but I did buy on my Amazon the cheaper ones and long process but I have been figuring it out glad these videos are probably popped up here cuz I didn't look for them hey I could not find are you my phone service is mint mobile 30 bucks a month for unlimited everything and it's cheaper to more months you buy think about $180 for 3 months
I think it's insane the we still have areas that can't get a network signal. I'm living in one of those areas now & it's preventing me from working so I'm desperate to find a solution. Thinking I'll try this router with Visible's SIM card & the Yagi antenna 🤷🏼♀️
Yeah it’s crazy.
Definitely worth trying out, especially if you have Verizon coverage in your area.
With visible, I only get about 4-5Mbps I do have TTL 65 enabled, which I thought would bypass the limit. I have very good signal, with my phone I get about 50Mbps. Do you know a fix for this? Both phone and mofi are on band 13, the only band in my area.
Hmmm not sure. Sorry
Attempted to use Visible SIM but can't seem to get connected. Error message stating modem disabled during setup, instruction manual says error is usually because of a locked SIM. Anyone have any ideas?
is there a specific reason you chose yagi? Do you have any other antennas you'd recommend? and your running 2 of them correct?
It's just what I saw others using. Yeah, using two of them.
Is it reasonable to transfer the sim back and forth from phone to router when using? Unlimited plans on some carriers are pricey as it is. Anyone do that or is it problematic?
You can do that. You just need to change your carrier settings and channels each time.
So I have a question.
Do you know if the Visible SIM card will work in my iPad. The iPad was a promo gift when we purchased a phone But now the warning I receive is. “SIM card expired purchase a new plan”. Free. Ha. I don’t think so. Thanks
Not 100% sure, but I would think it works fine in the ipad.
You can check if your device is compatible on their website via imei. My iPad is not going to work with their service unfortunately.
We have an AT&T chip out of a broken phone that is still a line on plan. So need a box but live in Biloxi can we use that sims card?
Yes, that should work fine.
It might work for a little bit but they will suspend your plan it just happen to me 4 days ago because they know what that sims card goes to. I have sims card for an iPad and lasted a year then they shut it off, good luck.
what tmobile plan you have,, or you have to buy does expensive 139 unlimited plans..
The unlimited tablet plan. But that might be an old grandfathered in plan at this point.
I live on a mountain in NW Arkansas. I have NO broadcast TV and phone service is with Verizon. Verizon service, if you want to call it that, is very poor on a good day. I finally got internet via the land line company DSL. It's so much better than Verizon internet. Still no TV except by DISH and Direct and both of them are very unreliable and expensive. Unfortunately I have zero understanding of all this stuff which doesn't help me out much. I watched this video twice and I'm just totally confused about it all. I feel your pain though being way out in the country.
Would you know if visible has a way of knowing what a visible customer is trying to do with the router.? My speed is always 5mb
It's very possible. We no longer use visible but have had got luck with tmobile pre-paid.
Can you confirm if the service has not been canceled yet from Visible Wireless? I am interested in the same setup... but I understand that in some modems it recognizes it and they cancel the service for not being used in a cell phone. Thank you!
Still working today! 🙂
@@LittleMountainLife thank you!!!
Just switched to visible from sprint terrible service in dc for the past two years I sleep much better at night knowing I’m not being overcharged.
One word.... Starlink
I am sure you already researched and it is more expensive but it is crazy fast
A fantastic option! It is only just now available for pre order here in VA.
So I am some what understand the difference between a WIFI router and Cellphone access And I'm hopeful the MOFI 4500 will take care of my lack of wifi but if I only have sometimes 1 bar to "no service" on my cell Does the MOFI 4500 increase the cell coverage as well Fingers crossed Thanks John
You only need one bar of LTE in most cases. You’ll likely need to do what we did and swap out the smaller 4G antennas for larger ones outside.
So do you have to have a phone with visible to work? To get an account with them it says you need phone so Iam not site how to do this
I bought just the sim and used my iPhone to activate it before putting it in the router.
what if you live somewhere that doesnt get cell service? on any plan? would it still work?
You’ll need at least spotty coverage. No coverage at all won’t work.
When I purchase visible do I just select being my own phone and have them send me the SIM card?
Yes that’s what we did but that was a while ago now.
Can i connect the mofi to a public wifi network i was thinking of installing this into a van
not sure
did you have to activate the sim card in a visible supported phone, before you installed into the mofi ?
I activated it in my iPhone first 👍
So are you still using this daily? I used a mofi for a couple years, but since built my own device. Was using a Sprint plan, that T-mobile is shutting off my grandfathered sim June 01, 2022. The replacement sim I got from T-mobile totally sucks, was looking for alternatives like Visable maybe?
Only using it with T-Mobile as secondary internet.
@@LittleMountainLife Thanks for the reply
Would it be possible to place the Visible SIM in an old Samsung 📲 I have and broadcast a Hotspot? I live in a very small area (not prison lol) but would love to save money. Building a new safe area for dogs to roam and 8 foot high barrier fencing gets pricey.
I think that would work but haven’t tried it myself.
@@LittleMountainLife been following btw and appreciate you leading the way for us forest folk!
Thank you! Appreciate you watching!
We have the Mofi, but haven't used it yet.
It’s a fantastic router. This guy has tons of great info on it.
czcams.com/video/JdeoauVIXOE/video.html
does it slow down the internet speed after a specific GB amount? for example my hotspot slows down significantly after i reach 15gbs of data used
Visable hotspot is capped at 5mbps but is fully unlimited this method he shows will get you faster speeds but they can cancel your service if they find out
@@ethanlawrence8132 thanks boss
Do I still need a modem? I have a mofi and getting set up with visible now.
The mofi will broadcast wifi but a lot of folks run a cable to a better quality router and turn off the less efficient wifi on the mofi.
The mofi will broadcast wifi but a lot of folks run a cable to a better quality router and turn off the less efficient wifi on the mofi.
Great vid.. Does it still work for ya?
I have verizon hotspot where I live but only one bar and is very slow. would visible work for me?
possibly. It doesn't take much and external antennas really help
This still working well? I have a Mofi 4500 and been using another service for unlimited net. However, it is $110.00/m and getting Visible for $25/m on Party Pay sounds super enticing.
We actually went back to using our T-Mobile SIM card after they upgraded a local tower for faster speeds. Still using the mofi though
What kind of up and down speeds you getting now with the t-mobile sim?
@@turbofarviknugnnick5540 25 down 10 up on average
They say on their website the hotspot only streams up to 5mbps, do you have a different experience?
We've honestly been averaging around 10 up and down lately but are transitioning back to tmobile after some recent cell tower improvements.
I'm getting limited to around 5mbps too download (10+ mbps upload however), using the mofi...I've hit a few high numbers, but nothing constant. Also, on ch. 13 I'm getting an 80% signal with a -96 and it's not registering internet at all....looking for any kind of feedback on this. My NoMad internet (at&t) gets on average 22-25+ mbps
Why are you using two antennas? especially orthogonal to each other?
Bump
I just signed up with Visible $62 and change that's with the cheapest phone and the MOFI is on it's way
How’s it been for you?
Yeah im curious too
Anyone else use visible? It’s asking me to confirm my device’s compatibility by typing in an IMEI. not sure where to go from here
Do I have to activate the sim card in an unlocked cell phone first before inserting the sim into the mofi4500
Yes that’s what we did.
Has anyone made this work on PS4 or PS5? I never get more than 2.1 mbs down. And I use my consoles for watching CZcams and Netflix, but it buffers a lot.
Gonna have to look into this. I live on the backside of Staunton VA in the middle of a cow & cornfield. I can literally see 2 cell towers from my home but I cant get real internet 😫
Yeah, I'd look into finding the best cell provider and trying one of their SIMs
@@LittleMountainLife that would definitely be Verizon. I went to sprint because overall it was cheaper for an "unlimited" plan but im not happy with their quality. Verizon was expensive but their signal is no joke around here!
How did you get the SIM from them and activate it? I have been trying, but it does not seem they will send one without a phone
I just asked. But this was a while ago now.
You just need to complete the online form with the IMEI number of a phone. Phone you are using on another carrier is fine .
It will tell you if compatible with their network. And next day it arrives fed ex
It might not be an option right now, but StarLink is in beta. It is faster as I understand from the couple of videos on CZcams, though, I think it's like $100/month.
Yeah It's still only available north of us, but sounds awesome.
I don't want to pay $100 month for weekend property
What do i do if i cant bring my own phone do i order a phone take the sim card out the put it in my mofi when i get one and it should work? Because it says my phone cant be with them have to get one of there phones
I was able to order a SIM card without ordering a phone but they may have changed their policy since then.
talk to the customer service chat, they gave me a dummy imei, i said i wanted to order the card now and purchase a compatible phone another time at my own convenience. that should work
@@LittleMountainLife probably
@@namreg944 thanks
Does Visible throttle speeds? If so, what is the threshold?
I've hear they they've throttled for some users but we have not experienced it.
Have they figured out how to detect the Mofi4500 or does it still work well?
We stopped using visible and switched back to tmobile. It still works well
I am looking for internet beyond cell range
So you can just put the sim card in and nothing else? No putting in the IMEI number in?
Correct. I activated the card in my phone first, then inserted into the mofi modem.
Are you using the default mofi firmware still?
Yes
What's the difference between the mofi and netgear nighthawk m1?
Honestly not sure. We've just always used the Mofi
I think the mofi might add a lot more user control than the nighthawk, but I do not own the nighthawk - I also strayed from it because i need 24/7 use and heard that the nighthawk burnsout - like you have to take the battery out in order to avoid long term effects.
Could you do this with metro pc?
Not sure.
what about if you have only like 1 to 2 bars of service?
Yes it will help
is it possible to have internet in rural area with no electric power in area? anyone knw? tnks
Yes you can use solar or generator to power the router.
Loved your video and decided to do this. I am a verison customer. I did like you said and got a visible sim card. I activated the visible sim card. Now my phone doesn't work unless l have the visible sim card in my phone! Help! Thanks
I’m not someone I’d go to for carrier support. My best guess is that you might need to call Verizon and re activate the phone with your original SIM card.
@@LittleMountainLife l will do that! I just hope it won't deactivate my vissible...we will find out thanks! Love the videos!
My visible sim card doesn't fit in my mofi 4500
I have been using HughesNet for over ten years now. Obviously, it has it's issues or I wouldn't be looking for something else. All of these videos say "Super Fast" or "High Speed" for the solutions that you have come up with. In this video, you just said that satellite internet would be slower than what you just reported (13.68 Mbps down/4.68 Mbps up). I just ran a speed test on HughesNet and got 38.16 Mbs down/3.58 Mbps up. The kicker is the ping, or latency, which was at 875 ms. This causes some applications to not function well over satellite. As you said, it is expensive. Also, weather has a major impact on connectivity. I tried out Nomad internet and was very disappointed (~8 Mbps down/1 Mbps up). I'm not sure this solution will be better than what I have.
what if no electric? can u use internet with a generator or solar power?
Yes
What app can be used to test speeds ?
We just use a couple browser based apps online
does the Mofi unit need an SD card?
No. But it needs a sim card
Awesome
Thanks for watching and supporting!
Do you have to activate the sim in your phone then transfer to your mofi?
That’s what I did. 👍🙂
Does it mess anything up with your phone? Like when I go to put back my actual SIM card in my phone will everything still be there? Sorry I don’t know too much about this