I just got the 000-28 and I love it soooo much!!! The shorter scale makes it so comfortable to play!!! The sound is incredible!! I never want to put the guitar down!!! Way to go Martin!!!
Both instruments sound amazing. I’ve had a 000-28 for close to 30 years and it’s always sounded bright and balanced. The OM ramps it up just a notch. I’d love to play one to compare.
Quinton does such a nice job. I have actually come to appreciate his reviews more than Tonys(no offense to Tony)- mainly because I can just concentrate on the sweetness of his playing I do miss Mike Gurzi's lessons- they were some of the best on youtube
Both are great. I have a D-18 and I thought my next guitar would be a om 28 for a couple of years, but hearing them now I think the 000 28 covers more of the sonic palette that I do not currently have. You get that extra "zing." From the scale lenght in the I'm, but I kind of have that in my D-18. I feel like the 000 is slightly more soft and mellow.
Hi - you guys are great! I recently bought a new 00028 and was really wondering what the actual difference between the two was. Loving my 00028 - thanks for joining in to let us know guys! And Quentin - thanks so much for that lovely version of Thick as a Brick - gorgeous!
Quinton's outfit is on point, as always, and it's so good MV invested the time and care into these videos. It is paying off tenfold now with some of the best demos, great comparisons, and some happy banter. I've always felt the shorter scale led to a deeper (not necessarily bassier) tone and sweeter (less strident) trebles. Adds another wrinkle with the (perhaps more important) bracing difference.
Love the videos! Wondering if in future videos you guys could leave the guitar name bottom banner that pops up for the whole bit it’s playing? I find myself rewinding after turning away for a moment. Yes, I know the pickguards are different...not a guitar expert here.
Actually, a dreadnaught would probably be best for a singer/song writer. These are mid-heavy which is the range for your voice. They are probably best for finger picking and music where the acoustic is on top of the mix.
I was a bit surprised to find I liked the 000 a little better than the OM. But then, any given guitar will sound a little different - kind of like "on any given Sunday".
The 000 seems to have more resistance and tightness in the attack, even though you'd think the long scale OM should. The OM seems looser and more forgiving in the attack. Quinton's initial reaction to the OM feeling "Iooser" may be justified in this case. I have a Larrivee OM which plays like a dream, and any tightness that may be attributed the long scale is certainly not an issue.
I'll take the 000, myself, feel it has punchier bass and a more soulful sound, but to each his own. I currently own an Eastman E8-OM. Having owned their Adi topped guitars, I've come to prefer the Sitka, even though Adi is supposed to be an "upgrade." My dream guitar would the the Martin 000, sort of like the difference between Seiko and Rolex. Seiko makes an incredible watch, but Rolex is more than a watch; it's a brand! That said, I played a D-18 with the new neck profile a while back, and I did NOT like it. I prefer the chunky neck of the Eastman, so it's a conundrum. Love the Martin cashet and soul, think the Eastman is killer value and prefer the neck profile. Plus, I already own the Eastman and love it (I'm rambling). BTW, love Quinton's playing and vibe. He sounds like a real dunce in terms of education, however:)
To my ears the 000 sounds a little looser, sweeter and produces more pleasing overtones; the OM is a little more tighter and focused. Can't tell the volume difference by this video, but I know Martin introduced the OM style w/longer scale length to add volume. I think the finger picks he is using would work better with the OM, as here. I'm a finger-style player who doesn't use finger picks and I expect I'd go with the 000. A flat picker would likely favor the OM.
6th, 5th strings sounded muted. Maybe it was the capo, maybe the thumb pick, the strings, maybe a lot of things, even me but, when compared to a larger body like the J-40.
The guitars are superb, but I really don't like toner. My 000-28 has a natural Sitka top which has mellowed in daylight over the last 15 or so years. Is that impatience on behalf of owners or salesmen? That said I've just bought a CEO-7 with a sunburst top! Go figure eh? Different strokes for different folks. 'Playing' like that in the discussion really doesn't show the guitars at their best.
Hi all, I'm looking for a soundhole cover for an OM28, do you have any suggestions? All the covers that I see in the shops, online stores, etc.. are for 10 cm soundholes and even if the size difference is very small they just don't fit in the OM28. Thank you!
The first guitar Quinton played is the OM. You can easily spot an OM because of the teardrop pickguard. The OM has a longer scale, as Paul mentioned. The 000 has the shorter scale... as Paul mentioned. Let us know if we can help with any other questions on these guitars. They're both really great, just different scale lengths. -Chad
These are great reviews, but one request -- please avoid capos when you can. Even if it is only mental, it makes be think the sound isn't as good as it could be. At the very least, play a section of a song without it. I want to hear it completely unrestricted, in the way it came from the factory! Thanks for the video, though.
000 every time. Tighter, warmer trebles, better midrange. Fantastic in every way. The guy doing the testing was horrible. Doesn't know how to properly A/B test a guitar.
@D Fulton - PhD, Montana State, Sr. Tech Mgr (with law degree, doctorate in molecular biology ... not very educated huh?). He also performs with Bozeman bands. I'm impressed ... for a PhD.
DRailroad - Thank you for answering. I’ve often wondered. He’s clearly extremely intelligent, but also quite likable. I really like the “new” Tony-less format.
And here I thought he was a working class dog like us! He's got degrees in BOTH law and molecular bio? That's nuts! Where is he Sr. Tech Mgr? Sorry to be nosy.
@ J Watson - as stated in my comments, Montana State U (MSU) Tech Link Dept (which I believe included defense). Not nosy at all. Oh, and forgot to mention, if you hear the man talk, he likes to think of himself as a working class stiff, like "just" one of the boys!
Acoustic Letter Thank you for the reply. I have read so much about these models. I'm told that the shorter scale makes bending the strings easier. But also that the OM is better for finger picking. The OM sounds brighter but the 000 has a beautiful earthy tone. What to do...
To play this game you have to have minimum $3,000. Then you throw the dice and pick one? Ok. I have a 30 yr old OM-28 (bought sight unseen new) that I would rather sell my children into slavery rather than part with (not really but you get the idea). That the "000" is better is hard to believe. But - maybe.
I just got the 000-28 and I love it soooo much!!! The shorter scale makes it so comfortable to play!!! The sound is incredible!! I never want to put the guitar down!!! Way to go Martin!!!
Chad Kelley - I have a shade top 000. Love the feel. The new necks are far more comfortable.
So far, this is the best comparison between these two guitars I found.
I'm very happy with my 2018 Martin 000-28.
Both instruments sound amazing. I’ve had a 000-28 for close to 30 years and it’s always sounded bright and balanced. The OM ramps it up just a notch. I’d love to play one to compare.
Loved that Jethro Tull passage at 4:27 , keep on with that on future reviews! That kind of acoustic pieces are great to test and compare guitars
diegoruizguitar I totally agree!
Quinton does such a nice job. I have actually come to appreciate his reviews more than Tonys(no offense to Tony)- mainly because I can just concentrate on the sweetness of his playing
I do miss Mike Gurzi's lessons- they were some of the best on youtube
Tony was a scientist, playing it the same way every time
4:58 What a beautiful piece man, that om surely sounds nice
Both sounds great in my opinion.
Both are great. I have a D-18 and I thought my next guitar would be a om 28 for a couple of years, but hearing them now I think the 000 28 covers more of the sonic palette that I do not currently have. You get that extra "zing." From the scale lenght in the I'm, but I kind of have that in my D-18. I feel like the 000 is slightly more soft and mellow.
Me new OM 28 it's a superb guitar ! Thanks Martin...
OM-28. 4:29
000-28. 4:43
OM-28. 4:57
000-28. 5:33
Hi - you guys are great! I recently bought a new 00028 and was really wondering what the actual difference between the two was.
Loving my 00028 - thanks for joining in to let us know guys!
And Quentin - thanks so much for that lovely version of Thick as a Brick - gorgeous!
Quinton am still waiting For lessons to learn beautiful melodious musical pieces you play .
Precious playing on previous guitars. I prefer OM28 for all the picking
Martin is the Apple of acoustic string guitar. Perfection insane.
Don’t forget the pick guard!
Quinton's outfit is on point, as always, and it's so good MV invested the time and care into these videos. It is paying off tenfold now with some of the best demos, great comparisons, and some happy banter. I've always felt the shorter scale led to a deeper (not necessarily bassier) tone and sweeter (less strident) trebles. Adds another wrinkle with the (perhaps more important) bracing difference.
Why doesn’t Martin make a Standard OM-18?
Quinton should do these reviews/comparisons blindfolded.
Love the videos! Wondering if in future videos you guys could leave the guitar name bottom banner that pops up for the whole bit it’s playing? I find myself rewinding after turning away for a moment. Yes, I know the pickguards are different...not a guitar expert here.
The missing review! Awesome job guys! Cheers!
I wouldn't complain with either, no sir, but if I had no choice it would be the OM. By the way nice playing Quinton.
seems like the OM would give you more tuning and capo options with its longer scale length
love the sound of that triple O!
Do the om 42 and the 000-42!!
000 for my taste
Actually, a dreadnaught would probably be best for a singer/song writer. These are mid-heavy which is the range for your voice. They are probably best for finger picking and music where the acoustic is on top of the mix.
I was a bit surprised to find I liked the 000 a little better than the OM. But then, any given guitar will sound a little different - kind of like "on any given Sunday".
ooo has a more top end sheen, but both guitars sound beautiful
its stupid to compare 000 vs OM using a capo
Lol... taking away the main difference right off the bat
No matter where you have the capo it is still a half inch shorter or longer.
… right?
The 000 seems to have more resistance and tightness in the attack, even though you'd think the long scale OM should. The OM seems looser and more forgiving in the attack. Quinton's initial reaction to the OM feeling "Iooser" may be justified in this case. I have a Larrivee OM which plays like a dream, and any tightness that may be attributed the long scale is certainly not an issue.
The last song sounded like streets of London? Either way both beautiful sounding guitars!
buddy loves the g chord
is there any other chord?? really?
I'll take the 000, myself, feel it has punchier bass and a more soulful sound, but to each his own. I currently own an Eastman E8-OM. Having owned their Adi topped guitars, I've come to prefer the Sitka, even though Adi is supposed to be an "upgrade." My dream guitar would the the Martin 000, sort of like the difference between Seiko and Rolex. Seiko makes an incredible watch, but Rolex is more than a watch; it's a brand! That said, I played a D-18 with the new neck profile a while back, and I did NOT like it. I prefer the chunky neck of the Eastman, so it's a conundrum. Love the Martin cashet and soul, think the Eastman is killer value and prefer the neck profile. Plus, I already own the Eastman and love it (I'm rambling). BTW, love Quinton's playing and vibe. He sounds like a real dunce in terms of education, however:)
Really like that descending pattern at 5:00! Sounds familiar.
Tim Davis country roads is what I thought
Sounds close to Streets of London but a tad different
OM for me!!!!!
To my ears the 000 sounds a little looser, sweeter and produces more pleasing overtones; the OM is a little more tighter and focused. Can't tell the volume difference by this video, but I know Martin introduced the OM style w/longer scale length to add volume. I think the finger picks he is using would work better with the OM, as here. I'm a finger-style player who doesn't use finger picks and I expect I'd go with the 000. A flat picker would likely favor the OM.
Anyone know the name of the song at 5 min on?
6th, 5th strings sounded muted. Maybe it was the capo, maybe the thumb pick, the strings, maybe a lot of things, even me but, when compared to a larger body like the J-40.
The guitars are superb, but I really don't like toner. My 000-28 has a natural Sitka top which has mellowed in daylight over the last 15 or so years. Is that impatience on behalf of owners or salesmen?
That said I've just bought a CEO-7 with a sunburst top! Go figure eh?
Different strokes for different folks.
'Playing' like that in the discussion really doesn't show the guitars at their best.
Any idea why the 000-15 and 00-15 have the same scale length as the OM, i.e. 15.4in instead of the usual 14.9in?
That's a good question. I've wondered for years why Martin chose that scale on these guitars.
@@TheAcousticLetter probabky felt the longer scale was needed for the hog top as its harder than spruce & needs to be moved more vigorously...
Hi all, I'm looking for a soundhole cover for an OM28, do you have any suggestions? All the covers that I see in the shops, online stores, etc.. are for 10 cm soundholes and even if the size difference is very small they just don't fit in the OM28. Thank you!
Capo to demo a guitar’s sound?
Quinton Man How Do You Get To Play So Many Beautiful Musical Pieces In One lifetime ?
put capo on the first fret of OM and you get your 000, but you can't make OM from 000
I love martin 000-28♬
I think I'd rather hear the OM by itself, but I'd rather sing along with the 000
I didn't know Woody Allen could play the Guitar!!!
Is Quinton a golf pro at a course up there in Montana?
Paul - you had the scale lengths reversed. The OOO is the shorter scale. Quinton's hands were correct.
duffster88 that’s what he said
The first guitar Quinton played is the OM. You can easily spot an OM because of the teardrop pickguard. The OM has a longer scale, as Paul mentioned. The 000 has the shorter scale... as Paul mentioned. Let us know if we can help with any other questions on these guitars. They're both really great, just different scale lengths. -Chad
Trippel 0 all the way!
Shorter strings - less tension, duh.
No difference if you are strong on strumming or picking
These are great reviews, but one request -- please avoid capos when you can. Even if it is only mental, it makes be think the sound isn't as good as it could be. At the very least, play a section of a song without it. I want to hear it completely unrestricted, in the way it came from the factory! Thanks for the video, though.
OM more balanced.
M&M Motorsports id agree
000 every time. Tighter, warmer trebles, better midrange. Fantastic in every way. The guy doing the testing was horrible. Doesn't know how to properly A/B test a guitar.
jethro tull should by played on parlor :)
Nice a bit of Thick as A Brick....
What does this guy do for a living that he has to come by on his lunch break? Is he not a working musician?
@D Fulton - PhD, Montana State, Sr. Tech Mgr (with law degree, doctorate in molecular biology ... not very educated huh?). He also performs with Bozeman bands. I'm impressed ... for a PhD.
DRailroad - Thank you for answering. I’ve often wondered. He’s clearly extremely intelligent, but also quite likable. I really like the “new” Tony-less format.
Wow! Smart and talented. Awesome!!
And here I thought he was a working class dog like us! He's got degrees in BOTH law and molecular bio? That's nuts! Where is he Sr. Tech Mgr? Sorry to be nosy.
@ J Watson - as stated in my comments, Montana State U (MSU) Tech Link Dept (which I believe included defense). Not nosy at all.
Oh, and forgot to mention, if you hear the man talk, he likes to think of himself as a working class stiff, like "just" one of the boys!
Why do hats annoy people?
Which do you guys recommend for acoustic blues?
Both would work great... really just depends on your specific style and comfort with the long scale vs short scale....
Acoustic Letter Thank you for the reply. I have read so much about these models. I'm told that the shorter scale makes bending the strings easier. But also that the OM is better for finger picking. The OM sounds brighter but the 000 has a beautiful earthy tone. What to do...
So Bilbo Baggins makes guitar review videos
Way too much talking especially when switching. We can’t hear the nuanced differences.
To play this game you have to have minimum $3,000. Then you throw the dice and pick one? Ok. I have a 30 yr old OM-28 (bought sight unseen new) that I would rather sell my children into slavery rather than part with (not really but you get the idea). That the "000" is better is hard to believe. But - maybe.
Less talky, more play
lose the pick.
YOU LOST ME ON THAT ONE. HAD POTENTIAL TO BE A TERRIFIC INFORMATIONAL VIDEO AND BECAME A LESSON ON CHARACTER DEFECTS.