Another part of a video series from Wordonfire.org. Bishop Barron will be commenting on subjects from modern day culture. For more visit www.wordonfire.org/
I’m a Protestant minister (church of the Nazarene), and I am very thankful for my Catholic (and Orthodox) brothers and sisters in Christ for teaching me more about Jesus and the church. Love these vids
@@casey8726 I can already tell there isnt going to be the tone for an actual discussion here, so I instead just pray God blesses you and that you trust He can work through anyone who calls upon His name. Anyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved, and so long as it’s Him I am listening to ultimately, I can find common ground with any Christian, so long as it doesn’t contradict Christ. Seriously.
Well friend, it's not "Fr. Barron's view." It's the view of the Catholic Church, which is to say, a living community of interpretation that has stretched across 2000 years and has included some of the greatest geniuses of the Western intellectual tradition, from Origen and Augustine, to Thomas Aquinas and John Henry Newman. It also has the guarantee of the Holy Spirit, which will, the Lord told us, "lead us into all truth." Not bad, say I.
The Catholic Church Does Believe the Bible. It is quoted at mass more than 60 times at each service. The Bible never tells us to have a personal relationship with Jesus to be saved
You're right: that's a great argument against Protestantism, with its tradition of private interpretation. It's an argument for the Catholicism that I represent.
What if a beginner picked up Hamlet for the first time, read it completely on his own, without benefit of the centuries-long interpretive tradition surrounding that text, would you take his interpretation that seriously? The Holy Spirit works through secondary causes, such as the Catholic tradition.
Yes, that person's interpretation of Hamlet should be taken seriously. The same is true for the Bible. There is no need for Holy Spirit to work strictly through the church. The Bible is sufficient for training any new Christian. The Holy Spirit is the final authority in the person's life. The Holy Spirit will not contradict the Bible. The Pope and the church has in history contradicted the Bible.
Bishop Robert Barron GOD’S word is not open to private interpretation . If the Bible says EXODUS 20:4,”YOU SHALT NOT MAKE UNTO YOU ANY GRAVEN IMAGE OF ANYTHING IN HEAVEN ON EARTH OR THE WATER UNDER THE EARTH,YOU SHALT NOT BOW DOWN TO THEM OR WORSHIO THEM” Catholics claim that GOD commanded two cherubs to be made for the ark of the covenant so Catholics can make statues,WRONG ! The ark is a representation of HIS HEAVENLY THRONE ,if Is not a license to make millions of statues to be worshipped and prayed to. I was a catholic for 27 years and yes the statues were prayed to ,we bowed and genuflected to them, Lit candles to them,and said prayers to them,asked them for intercession and favors. Catholics have the most convoluted logic imaginable. After 1700 years of praying to statues ,they deny praying to them. Bishop Barron how’s about we have a debate on catholic heresies,OK ?
@@rafaelwilks The Holy Spirit resides inside each Christian and was spent by Jesus for the purpose of being a guide among other things. The Holy Spirit is God and breathe the inspiration to men. We have the Holy Spirit to help guide us. We do not need the teachings of men nor their traditions. The analogy of the original post here is should we take seriously the claims of those that have not been in the faith as long and the answer is still yes. The truth is not bounded by time. The new person might have a new take on the information that is important. We should be evaluating for truth and not tradition.
@@rafaelwilks The one that is most true. The only reason there are different interpretations is someone is not following what the Bible says or is not listening to the Holy Spirit as they should. We follow God and not the traditions of man
@@rafaelwilks your laughter does not sound like you agree with that position. it is late where I am at. Please respond with you logic and I will get back to you. I also do not mind long responses, so please expand on what it is you think.
I'm delighted to hear that. Keep studying; take in what they have to tell you; but remain appropriately skeptical. And keep reading a wide variety of texts, not just the ones assigned to you. And know that I will pray for you.
We love you so so much Bishop Barron. We pray for the pope, bishops, priests, clergies, and religious and especially for you Bishop Barron. We ask God to please keep you safe and healthy so you can continue to do God's will. You have helped so many people to come back to church, to love God more, understand our faith, and the bible. You are such a great gift to the church. We are grateful to God to created you for our world. We need you desperately. We are also thank you Bishop Barron for gift of your vocation. You are priceless gift to the church and to the world. May our Beloved Lord and Savior bless you and your loved ones! We love you bishop!
I am speechless. Normally I read only the Gospels by Mathew, Mark, John and Luke and from time to time, not very often the letters by St. Paul. I always recommend beginners and ignorant people to read only the Gospels, but for being humble, I find myself lost and confused when I read the Old Testament. I like the Book of Wisdom and I bought the Bible by University of Navarra, which explains the content in perspective, just the way you do, nevertheless the historic overall framework you explain it is very didactic and much more interesting. You are not only a well bred and cultivated humanist, philosopher and theologist, but also a magnificent pedagogue. I never get tired to cultivate my intellect and my spirit with your friendly, astounding, clear and pragmatic teaching. I am a very big fan of you!
@archgin742000 Yes, you're wrong about this. Official revelation is closed. It ended with the death of the last apostle, that is to say, the last person to know Jesus Christ directly. All of Sacred Scripture tends toward Christ. Therefore, though God continues to speak in mitigated ways, official revelation is closed.
Father Barron, I'm a theology grad student at a rather liberal Catholic university, and I must say that your videos are a breath of fresh air! While I am studying the appropriate primary texts to become knowledgeable as a theologian, I often find myself fighting an uphill battle in class discussions as an orthodox Catholic. Your videos are a helpful supplement to the perspectives that I get in class, which I disagree with but cannot always precisely pinpoint how or why.
@Mystagogia87 Perhaps it was not in the sources available to Mark. Perhaps it didn't fit Mark's overall theological purpose. This is why the Church was wise to canonize four Gospels and not just one.
I had an excellent OT teacher who suggested that some Bible critics "atomize the text until it becomes irrelevant." I think it is good to ask all the hard questions, but also remember that reading the Bible is first and foremost an encounter with our Beloved Who loves us very much, and is drawing us into a deeper relationship with Him. I'm reading Pope Benedict's book now, and it is wonderful.
Father Barron: I found this video immensely helpful in pointing a way forward through some crucial questions with which I have been struggling. As in other videos, you communicate a sophisticated and nuanced approach that is much more satisfying to me than the flattened out fundamentalist Protestant hermeneutic or the dry, rationalistic method of the higher critical scholars, to say nothing of the irrelevant musings of liberal theologians who only echo the unbelief of the surrounding culture.
Watching this just after Judge ACB was confirmed on the Supreme Court. This same discussion is an important one for how we read and interpret the US Constitution.
I read the first Jesus of Nazareth but couldn't afford the other two. Finally a student of Bishop Barron became my pastor and he! loaned me the other two.
I have been so moved by PBXVI's introduction in Jesus of Nazareth, engagement with the historical critical method, Dei Verbum, etc, etc, I have been going to an Eastern Cath parish - I am now challenged by a deacon of the Church, PhD from an esteemed, mainstream Catholic university in Biblical Studies - whom I had overheard providing a layperson resources defending 1) the belief that dinosaurs and humans were coexistant, which assumes 2) a young-earth time scale & 3) validity of such reading.
@Maritoni79 ".It's our responsibility to grow spiritually but maybe the Church complicates it a bit" I would say it does indeed complicate it, but not in the way I think you mean. Being a member of local congregation is always messy, since it's the intersecting of many different lives, yet this is something to which we are called (Hebrews 10:25).
Because of the origin of the compiled bible. Though collections of sacred writings, varying in extent, existed in the various local Churches of Christendom, the canon or official list of Scripture was only compiled by the Church toward the end of the fourth century-at Hippo in 393, Carthage in 397, whence it was sent to Rome for confirmation in 419. The Bible may be called the notebook of the Church, and she has always claimed to be the guardian, exponent, and interpreter of it. . .
No, I'm arguing that it is counter-productive to read the Bible outside of a disciplined and ancient interpretive tradition. And yes, I do think there are lots of deeply inadequate readings of the Bible.
Why? Because we would find out that actually what RCC is teaching is wrong? How can you be so dishonest, when you know that what Bible says on ALOT of things so obviously contradicts RC traditions. All of you who have studied under roman catholic church know that that's the case, you are selling this to people who haven't read properly the Bible ever. You mustb be aware that lying to people is a sin in God's eyes. How can you sleep at night? May Holy Spirit, the true Spirit of Jesus Christ lead you to confession of the truth. May the Lord be with you so you stop lying to poor people like you did for centuries. A true wolf in the skin of a sheep
Dear Bishop Barron: You speak fluent English and German, so this may interest you: The entire (Protestant) Bible is now available in Pennsylvania Dutch with King James English on every page in the margin. It's called "Die Heilich Shrift [sic]." The New Testament in PD, called "Es Nei Teshtament" with the Psalms and Proverbs has been available since the 1990s. Danke fuer Ihre Videos. 14.05.17
Father Barron, Can you recommend first, your preferred Bible translation and second, the study Bibles you recommend. I currently have the RSV2CE and the Ignatius study Bible and am thinking about picking up the Navarre series as well. I am new to the Faith (just confirmed this Easter) and want to be sure I am getting good orthodox Catholic teaching but also something meaningful and spiritual. God Bless you and the work you are doing! Jason
@BeingItself Ever heard of the Gospels? Plus, other parts of the New Testament may have been written by people other than the Apostles, however these people were disciples of the Apostles and wrote their letters during their lifetime and therefore were among what is direct revelation. What Father Barron is saying is that when the last Apostle died, direct revelation was closed. Nothing confusing about that.
It's delightful to find such a wise video about Bible reading. I've started to take a free short course online about the Bible from the historical perspective, but the scholars (apparently well known christians) were saying things such as: "the apostles had SOME EXPERIENCE of Jesus after his death", "Jesus was a healer through faith", "the virgin birth maybe was written just to emphasize the importance of Jesus" and that just didn't seem right to me. I mean, I'm only starting, so I don't know much about historical interpretation, whether this is consensus or not, but I'm almost sure these claims are arguable
Fr, you are absolutely correct. In fact the higher criticism of the 19th century protestants was condemned for being too rationalistic. In that sense, the Church will always manage to see the teachings in the Holy Bible in light of contemporary issues, without forgetting obviously the context in which they are put.
Hi Bishop Barron. Can you please do a video on the Apocryphal and Deutocanical books of the bible please, and if Catholics accept or reject them. Thank you
Father, do you have any opinion on The Great Adventure bible? both the bible itself and the concept of the timeline. I saw many reviews from lay people, but none from a clergy.
The Bible has two authors: the human, which makes a literal interpretation possible, and the divine, which makes a spiritual interpretation necessary. The Gospel of Matthew and the Letter to the Hebrews give a spiritual interpretation to many of the texts of the Old Testament (Hebrew Bible).
@wordonfirevideo Is it possible, though, that if and when (please God), the Eastern and Western Churches achieve complete unity, that some of the larger Orthodox canons might be accpeted? Or, to put it another way, is the canon as defined at Trent a positive canon that simply tells us which books we *must* accept as Scripture, or is it a negative canon, in which all the books not listed are definitively *excluded* from the canon?
@wordonfirevideo Immediately, 2 Tim 3:16 came to mind while watching. This verse is often used to defend the "bible-alone" position. I regularly reply that St. Paul was referring to the Old Testament since he didn't know that his writings were going to be a part of any future collection (New Testament). He was also refuting the popular theory du jour that the OT was useless for believers of the new "Way." Is this a good example where the historical, critical method is the way to go?
You're so smart. How many ways can you show how Pope Benedict at whatever stage in his writing life points to one thing and one thing only, God! Lately, frustrated with the Catholics lack of impact on the abortion crisis, I think, as you said, we let other people tell our story. We fight with their fire. They say a collection of cells we say it is not. How about we say yes, it is a collection of cells and it is also Gods love, his gift to us and his thought. We leave God out and so we fail.
@Maritoni79 "...maybe the Church complicates it a bit" Also, being part of the Catholic Church also makes things more complicated because I can no longer pick and choose which bits of the faith I'm going to follow. At the same time, however, this makes things considerably simpler. Without the Church, it is just me trying to interpret Scripture on my own. How do I know I've got the right interpretation? Fortunately, I have an authoritative Church (1 Tim 3:15) to teach me.
Amen! That is what brought me back to Catholicism. I repented of my arrogance in thinking I could figure it all out, and humbled myself to accept the teachings of the Apostles' students (the Early Church Fathers), and their successors.
My neighbor claims that reading the Bible everyday is the only thing you need to do in order to be saved from going to hell, he has probably read it 1000 times from start to finish, BUT the problem is that he does everything opposite of what the Bible teaches, he claims that it doesn't matter what you do, the only salvation is to read the bible everyday. He once told me that one day he was asked many Bible questions and was ridiculed by a Pastor because he couldn't answer them, starting that day he swore that he would memorize the Bible and learn every scripture just to get revenge and ridicule others especially Catholics by asking them and quizzing them on Bible knowledge just like that pastor did to him. And now he loves to confront and challenge the jehova witnesses that knock on his door and loves to ridicule them. I think my neighbor is nuts, but he has read the Bible. I don't know what you guys think, comment below. Thanks
pray for him, and ask the Holy Spirit to use the humble wisdom, knowledge, and understanding he has been given for the greater glory of God. As for you, love your neighbor as yourself.
brain residue - thank you, I truly appreciate and welcome your advise feedback. You are a very wise person, I will do that, you might think I am crazy , but sometimes I can feel the presence of Satan possessing my neighbor's body when he goes nuts attacking others with the Bible, later he acts like a very nice, compelling human being as if nothing happened, its like as if he is bipolar.
The unknown authors wrote about their belief in God, it’s not until the later addition of the Epistle of Timothy, that the belief of “divinely inspired” crept in after the first three gospels.
In one of your previous videos (I can't find it now, or I would be commenting there) you mentioned that the Bible is a library that mixes symbolical and historical. My question is, if Genesis 1is symbolical (which modern science strongly implies), then how is original sin real (or how do we know it's real)?
How do we know original sin real? Isn't it apparent from your life that it's real? We all, even the heretics and atheists, have a strong sense that there is a way the world *ought to be*, and we can all equally see that people are naturally inclined to do the opposite. Particularly amidst modernity you should see it in rampant obesity, vanity, materialism, and vitriol. If you are humble you will see it in yourself every day, when in a thousand small ways you are taken to hatred rather than pity, sloth rather than duty, despair rather than hope, or indulgence rather than prudence.
@wordonfirevideo Forgive my lack of knowledge, I haven't read the bible since I was a child. Paulus wrote a great deal of the New Testament, but if memory serves he never met Jesus. He also got people to start evangelize, but didn't Jesus say specifically that he was there for the people of Israel? Anyway, how does Paulus relate to the official stance regarding the last people to know Jesus Christus *directly*? I'm probably wrong, but no harm in saying something...
I read some of the NJBC by Brown once and his approach of only using the historical-critical method leads him to deny things like the visitation even happened. Even more unsettling is how it essentially treats the infancy narrative as fiction.
Father Barron: Your remarks on Pope Benedict's method of reading Scripture are urgently relevant to me. I have been reading "The Human Faces of God" by Thom Stark. This book addresses some very legitimate historical-critical concerns, but thus far (I have not quite finished the book) has not salvaged the value of the Bible as divine revelation, as a unified whole. It seems to me that historical-critical theologians are prone to set themselves as judges over the Bible. Without the Church, what?
@addictedkoala This is the problem that I am having. I have that same commentary but as a brand new Catholic, I definitely do not need Bible study that is pulling me away from the teaching of the Church. If someone was going to be an advanced Bible scholar I can see the use of such critical methods of investigation but I am not there as of yet.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:09 📖 Pope Benedict's study focuses on Jesus' life, passion, death, and resurrection, with an approach rooted in a theological hermeneutic. 00:37 🧐 The historical-critical method seeks to uncover human authors' intentions within their historical context, considering literary forms, cultural anthropology, and history. 02:53 🌍 The method's value lies in revealing the historical dimension of scripture and clearing misinterpretations, but it may overlook the vertical dimension of divine authorship. 04:46 🔍 The historical-critical method might isolate the Bible in its historical context, hindering its applicability and relevance for contemporary readers. 06:21 🔍 A theological hermeneutic complements the historical-critical approach, interpreting scripture with attention to divine authorship and the Church's theological tradition. Made with HARPA AI
The reason I've ultimately abandoned the historical critical method (even though I remain sola scriptura) is not merely that it's not how it's been traditionally interpreted (including the first protestants); it's not even how the apostles did it. When Paul read the OT as a Jew it lead him to slaughter Christians. It was only after he saw Christ that the true meaning of scripture revealed itself
You said there is a "unity of purpose". Have you never considered that the apparent structure and unity in the bible is simply a result of the First Council of Nicaea? Which, in a sense, makes the bible one of most, if not the most, edited and censured books of all time. If you remove things considered to be confusing, unknown or above all contradictory, then you do get a sense of structure and purpose, no matter the subject.
I'm reading the Old Testament for Lent. I'm in the middle of Leviticus, and must admit this book confuses me. It appears to be a book of very specific rules and regulations God set for dealing with certain conditions. While I find some of it interesting, I wonder why God felt compelled to give such highly detailed instructions to Moses? How does it fit with the rest of the Bible?
There is a lot of relevant material in Leviticus; you just have to think and look for it. Leviticus 7, for instance, has instruction for peace offering made with thanksgiving. The Greek word for thanksgiving is Eucharist. It's the only offering I know of in which all participants can join the priests in consuming the flesh of the offered animal, so long as those participants are 'clean.'
Many years ago, I decided to read the Bible from cover to cover. I didn't make it very far in the Old Testament, to say the least. I thought the whole Bible was like that, so I gave up. Now, I stick mostly with the New Testament.
@wordonfirevideo What does 'official' mean? 'Public' ok, 'Necessary for Salvation', ok, although everyone accepts there can be private revelation. Since the CHURCH (God+Man) wrote scripture don't really see why the Church couldn't add to it. Let's say I'm on vacation in Turkey and find the letter to the Laodiceans (Colossians 4:16) Wouldn't we just add it to our bibles? PS: Liked your article on the Libyan war.
I would be surprised if any thinking christian had not at least been aware of the 'historical-critical' method. I use it to read the Bible but not alone. I am guided by Church in my use of this method, since an abuse of the 'historical-critical' method can lead to one denying the resurrection and the miracles of Jesus as one is aware of with Bultmann. As Father Barron says one should always be aware the Holy Spirit is the author of the Bible and further it's the inerrant Word of God.
I have a question: In the Catechism of the Catholic Church is a passage about faith and science. In this passage is written that there can't be a real contradiction between faith and science. I have a scientific world view, but I'm also catholic. I believe (mostly) in the things science and history discover. Where there's no contradiction between science and the Bible, that's the point from which I start to consider that what's written in the Bible is literally true. So, I am absolutely for science, but not 'scientism'. I really think that Jesus was resurected and all these things that doesn't contradict science and history. Is this a valid way of reading the Bible, if I'm catholic? Thank you for your replies!
This is exactly how we read Scripture as Catholics. One way the Catechism puts it quite bluntly is, "Truth can never contradict truth." There is great wisdom in that saying, meaning that any authentic and real scientific truth can only help our understanding of who God is. The Creator - and the order of the mind of the Creator - is revealed in our ever-developing understanding of His creation. And inasmuch as science, with its rational theories and methodical proofs, teaches us about the universe and how it functions, it is teaching us about the One who created all of it. Now, in those moments when science can appear to contradict the Bible, it is important to understand what the Bible is, and what it isn't. That's why it is so essential to not be blindly reading scripture apart from the community, the Church, who alone is the arbiter of authentic interpretation. Your point about science vs. scientism is extremely prescient.
I am sorry but this left me a little confused. I am new to the Bible and Christianity. I am not very intelligent but am wanting to know more about jesus in a manner that is easy to understand. Any suggestions?
You may want to try looking into an RCIA (Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults) class in a parish nearby. Tell them what you are struggling with. They might recommend you with sources you may be comfortable trying. CZcams has a series every weekday at 2:00 PM called Call to Communion you can search and follow. EWTN is a Catholic website with many sources. You should definitely stay away from the heavy hitters like St. Thomas Aquinas. I myself couldn't get into it. I'm not that smart. The writings of St. Therese of Lisieux are approachable I hear. My personal suggestion is to learn about Judaism, their history, their festivals. Then learn about typology. That is how the New Testament parallels the Old Testament as its fulfillment. Blessings and good luck. 🙏
Now that bishop barron is a member of the usccb, perhaps he can influence the usccb to fix the nabre and its notes which are so heavily influenced by the historical-critical method and so lacking in the theological method.
This as been a very informative background to studying the Biblical texts. I thought the broader inclusion at moving from the " horizontal" to the "Vertical" view of scripture. The BBC presentation in this Lenten period of "hidden secrets in the Bible" by a Dr Francesca Stavrakopoulou fits exactly the latter with error. This has been very disconcerting (poor theology) but unfortunately dressed as important treatises of merit. It is archived but should hold a warning
haha I understand. Mine is around 130. I have the same experience watching his videos though. He is irrefutably intelligent. Also, he is one of the most well spoken and articulate speakers I've ever listened too.
@TheEvolvedMind "Have you never considered that the apparent structure and unity in the bible is simply a result of the First Council of Nicaea?" Are you trying to assert that the Bible was compiled at Nicea? I'm afraid that this is a common assumption but has absolutely no basis. "...makes the bible one of most, if not the most, edited and censured books of all time" Do you have any evidence to back up this claim?
So I'm having problems with my mom.I told her i didn't want to be catholic anymore and i don't want to be confirmed in the confirmation.Then she goes crying and getting angry saying i have to because it runs in the family.I want to know your opinion does someone have to be forced to do the confirmation and violate the first amendment or do you follow the first amendment freedom of religion and understand their opinion?
once you are baptized in the Catholic Church, you are catholic for life. no man-made laws can sever the graces of God brought upon by the sacrament of baptism. right now, you are just one confused catholic. and perhaps, your mom is also confused for saying, "it runs in the family". you will return to the Church, like the prodigal son, when you are older...just like many of us...
analgesic i mean I'm no confused person i know this is not my path,and i know for a fact god isn't real which is why i stopped believing it's called religion for a reason it's just an opinion meaning it's just fake
First thing: the First Amendment doesn't protect you from your mom. The First Amendment prevents the government from forcing you to practice or not practice a religion, but holds no sway over your mother, who is a power ever more terrible and absolute. What you can hope for is that she at least is listening to you. That doesn't mean she is going to think you are right. You have to remember, understanding someone isn't the same as agreeing with them. Try to understand her as well. That's something we owe to everyone we love. My next question is how did you come to this decision? From the way you write, plus the fact that the one video on your channel is a Minecraft video, you strike me as being pretty young. I'm 25 now; I remember at 14 or 15 I was very confident in my own opinions, and in hindsight was also very ignorant and thoughtless. This isn't to say that you can't make decisions; instead, your ability to do that is emerging and developing, so I urge you to pause and consider this with some patience and humility. See if you can take some time to talk to a priest or youth group leader about your doubts. Those folks should know their stuff, and if they're any good at their job, they'll listen to what you have to say. From your other comment below, it sounds like you have some intellectual objections to christianity. Explore them. What/Who/How do you think God is? Do you know the arguments that aim to demonstrate His existence? Do they satisfy you or not, and why? Bishop Barron has some solid videos on the subject; I recommend "Why Do We Believe in God?" to start. CS Lewis is also worth reading. You'll more than likely find Mere Christianity at the library. These questions are important, so it is good for you to explore them. I was confirmed last year. I remember as I was waiting for Mass to begin, I began to pray the Hail Mary, which is my go to prayer for those times when I feel lost and uncertain. Before I was even halfway done, I felt like I was stopped, as if someone had laid a hand on my shoulder (the feeling, not the physical sensation). Do not be afraid, you are right where you belong. Not with a voice, not in that precise phrasing, but I knew then that I was where I needed to be. Hope this turns out right for you. Hit me with any thoughts/questions you have.
I figured that out from one of your other comments. That's why I brought it up in the first place. What I'm curious about is what convinced you that God doesn't exist.
I read a catholic blogger who suggested that the Bible wasn’t written for us and that it is selfish to think that the Bible would be or should be applicable to our modern lives. How silly to think Jesus at the market would teach us a lesson about amazon prime day. It’s not what God intended, she explained. But when we read the Bible we should stop asking “what is the Bible trying to say to me?” And start asking “what is the Bible saying about God.” I haven’t picked up a Bible in 15 years. I don’t know why I went out and got one. Curious as to what it’ll say to me now. If it speaks at all. I live my life wholesome and righteous without any threat or belief I’ll go to hell if I don’t. And I should clarify that what I call wholesome and righteous is based on what I perceive Christ to be. I love and cherish my gay daughter. I am on my second marriage. I held my other daughters hand after her abortion. I don’t feel any part of my life as a darkness. I only ever felt I was filthy and unworthy of Gods love when I was in the Protestant Church. Maybe a Catholic Church would’ve done the same. I don’t know. I would like to ask a simple humble question. Why, given that I’m a happy peaceful, daughter mother, wife and sister, would I NEED to read the scriptures again. I read a few verses and I’m unmoved.
Hopefully you respond to what God calls you to do when He calls you to do it. Maybe one day that will be to read the Bible he created. Have you ever had a saying that your family or friends taught you, maybe a quote that you've read you often live by? Many do this with the scriptures, the Living Word of God, who is also Jesus Christ Himself. He revealed Himself to the authors of the New and Old testament's, in order that His Gospel would be handed down to us. I've had experiences where God has spoken directly through scripture to ME personally. The Word is an an infinite well spring of life just waiting to be drawn from. May God Bless you and your family always, and lead you to eternal life.
Aj Jingco, the bible is way to complex to understand as a high school student. There are people who have dedicated their lives to the study of scripture, and they still don't understand it.
I was "amening" all the way until the end at the part about church tradition helping to interpret the scriptures. All interpretation can be taken care of by the historical critical method, and then there's the question of what does that mean for us today. That's important to wrestle with and maybe church tradition can help. But I would be concerned if church tradition today tries to apply the Bible in as drastically different ways then what was originally intended, as the Apostles did with the OT scripture because of the coming of Jesus. They saw everything pointing to Jesus, seemingly even more than the OT authors themselves. But I think we are more bound to the historical critical view then they were. I probably think that because I'm Protestant and believe that they were the Apostles that the church was founded on, rather than apostolic succession.
church tradition upholds the truths of the bible. the catholic church compiled the bible. of course scripture should not be misused but can individuals say what is misuse? Jesus established His Church to be the pillar of truth.
Fr. Barron, one of the big obstacles to faith in our time--as you call it a heresy--is people going "oh yeah? if you don't take it all literally, how do you know which parts are and which parts aren't literal." It's all over your comments. You should do a video on that and the heretics will be like whoa
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I thought in Catholicism only their priests, bishops, cardinals and the pope actually read the Bible. Everyone else just follows along in their missals (?) during Sunday mass and responds in unison…not actually reading the Bible very much. Is this not true?
Bishop Barron What answer can you give to a muslim preacher ,that says why we say "God's begotten Son " when he said .. begotten means having a intimate relation with your wife and God doesnt have intimate relation and no wife ..I know it means something else in the bible..but I dont like nobody trying to confuse others with this type of statements.
It is impossible for man to have a son not having a wife. But is it impossible for God? We are talking about the real God. How can He be limited as human beings? Doesn't make any sense..
I must ask. I am reading the bible specifically Genesis. Why does it portray God as an angry vindictive god. It talks about destroying the world, destroying cities. Refer to Genisis 19.
The Bible cannot be read like a compendium of tax legislation...this can lead to reductionism and the overall coherence is vital...no significant Christian scholar relies on this method alone to my mind.
I didn't vote. I couldn't chose between the two evils. But you seem to have all the statics so you tel me why did 54% of Catholic voters vote of Obama. If you don't have the exact data give a guess other than they are hypocrites. The word hypocrite does not really come in in politics. So give me a political reason.
@angelamariapreuss If you’re asking in a general way-I mean, not in a data based way-I think that almost all voters who voted for Mr. Obama did so because they saw him as a proof of change figure. His election meant that the United States had ‘outgrown’, ‘overcome’, the biases that marked our earlier history. Mr. Obama represented, to those voters, a new social direction. This attitude was marked by ‘supporters’ fainting, and screaming out, at his speeches, in his presence-just as teens do in the presence of Rock Stars. This attitude is also reflected in the decision of the mass media not to allow him to fail as a president-except for a few, more conservative outlets, nothing he did was criticized. I think that that thinking underlay the need, of intellectuals, to present him with a “Nobel Peace Prize” before he had done anything to bring about ‘peace’-whatever that word means. We are still arguing over whether his treaties accomplished anything good in the world. Anyway, I think that’s the reason 54% of Catholics voted for Mr. Obama. I think that those are the reasons voting for a pro abortionist took precedence over such Catholic beliefs as anti abortion. The result, in so far as I can tell, is that, instead of a more united population, we have degenerated into a population based in numerous identity groups, each one seeking benefits (power) for itself at the expense of all the others. The only groups that everyone else can legitimately hate, and suppress, are White, Straight, male, Catholics. We are not in a good place since the election of Mr. Obama.
How do you know for sure, that the bible is not literal? how do you for which parts are literal and others are not? there is no way to tell, if you say something things are not literal, then maybe god, is not literal.... answer please..
I'm not a bible scholar or anything but the bible is often viewed as one books when its mainly books. The books are made up of different genres of writing some which might have literal text and other books which include text which are considered figurative.
The Bible is not secular history. The Bible is an allegory whose fictitious characters have meaning, but man, unfortunately, has mistaken the personifications for persons and the instrument which conveyed the instruction for the instruction. The Bible is not secular history, but the history of salvation. It has nothing to do with any land, but it is all about you who walk the lands of the earth. Always remember that all the characters of Scripture are states of consciousness personified. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, none of these forefathers of Jesus appear in any Near Eastern work whatsoever. They do not appear either as individuals or as tribes. Appearing only in Scripture, they are eternal states through which God passes as he unfolds his purpose in you. And his purpose is to give himself to you as though there were no other, just God and you, and finally only you, for you are He. The name "Isaac" means "he laughs." Isaac was Abraham's promised son. He is the sign the shepherds were told to find as a child wrapped in swaddling clothes. You will see this sign, and as you take that child in your arms he laughs. The word "Moses" means, "to be born." Moses could not enter the promised land because he had not yet been born. It is Moses who leads you up to the one being who is yourself. I have seen that one being and I know he contains the entire universe. From a distance he appeared as one man, but as I approached I saw he contained a multitude of nations, races, and people. Now I know that all that I behold, though it appears without it is within my imagination, of which this world of mortality is but a shadow. Truly the world is nothing more than yourself pushed out. And in the end you come out to discover you are that one Man who contains eternity - the one Being spoken of as the Lord Jesus Christ. GL bro :)
You understand the genre of each book in the Bible. Your question is like asking; how do we know that the Aeneid is not literal? It's a silly question. It's a poem, and so we read it like a poem.
Jesus established the Catholic Church as the teaching authority. That's why Christianity cannot be "bible alone." The Church is the authority Jesus left us with and the Church wrote and compiled the Bible (New Testament) and is therefore the only qualified authority to teach it. That's why you need the authority of the Church. Otherwise it's just everyone's personal opinion against everyone else's personal opinion which equals chaos and confusion, i.e., protestantism.
@wordonfirevideo What? It seems as if you are under the impression that the writers of the NT actually knew Jesus personally. But, as any educated person knows, that's just false. Using your criteria, the whole NT is not "sacred scripture". LOL.
I’m not a catholic, but I have to say I learn a lot about theology, philosophy, and the scripture in general from Bishop Barron.
I’m a Protestant minister (church of the Nazarene), and I am very thankful for my Catholic (and Orthodox) brothers and sisters in Christ for teaching me more about Jesus and the church. Love these vids
You are no Protestant you are just lost
Learning more about Jesus from the catholics? And you call yourself a minister.
Jesus loves you, anyway. Jesus died for your sins, too.
@@casey8726 I can already tell there isnt going to be the tone for an actual discussion here, so I instead just pray God blesses you and that you trust He can work through anyone who calls upon His name. Anyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved, and so long as it’s Him I am listening to ultimately, I can find common ground with any Christian, so long as it doesn’t contradict Christ.
Seriously.
Well friend, it's not "Fr. Barron's view." It's the view of the Catholic Church, which is to say, a living community of interpretation that has stretched across 2000 years and has included some of the greatest geniuses of the Western intellectual tradition, from Origen and Augustine, to Thomas Aquinas and John Henry Newman. It also has the guarantee of the Holy Spirit, which will, the Lord told us, "lead us into all truth." Not bad, say I.
And i will pray for you too God Bless + + +
I can never leave the the true presence of Christ in the Holy Mass
The Catholic Church Does Believe the Bible. It is quoted at mass more than 60 times at each service. The Bible never tells us to have a personal relationship with Jesus to be saved
@@JoshFost you are the apostate, therefore.
You're right: that's a great argument against Protestantism, with its tradition of private interpretation. It's an argument for the Catholicism that I represent.
What if a beginner picked up Hamlet for the first time, read it completely on his own, without benefit of the centuries-long interpretive tradition surrounding that text, would you take his interpretation that seriously? The Holy Spirit works through secondary causes, such as the Catholic tradition.
Yes, that person's interpretation of Hamlet should be taken seriously. The same is true for the Bible. There is no need for Holy Spirit to work strictly through the church. The Bible is sufficient for training any new Christian. The Holy Spirit is the final authority in the person's life. The Holy Spirit will not contradict the Bible. The Pope and the church has in history contradicted the Bible.
Bishop Robert Barron GOD’S word is not open to private interpretation .
If the Bible says EXODUS 20:4,”YOU SHALT NOT MAKE UNTO YOU ANY GRAVEN IMAGE OF ANYTHING IN HEAVEN ON EARTH OR THE WATER UNDER THE EARTH,YOU SHALT NOT BOW DOWN TO THEM OR WORSHIO THEM”
Catholics claim that GOD commanded two cherubs to be made for the ark of the covenant so Catholics can make statues,WRONG !
The ark is a representation of HIS HEAVENLY THRONE ,if Is not a license to make millions of statues to be worshipped and prayed to.
I was a catholic for 27 years and yes the statues were prayed to ,we bowed and genuflected to them,
Lit candles to them,and said prayers to them,asked them for intercession and favors.
Catholics have the most convoluted logic imaginable.
After 1700 years of praying to statues ,they deny praying to them.
Bishop Barron how’s about we have a debate on catholic heresies,OK ?
@@rafaelwilks The Holy Spirit resides inside each Christian and was spent by Jesus for the purpose of being a guide among other things. The Holy Spirit is God and breathe the inspiration to men. We have the Holy Spirit to help guide us. We do not need the teachings of men nor their traditions. The analogy of the original post here is should we take seriously the claims of those that have not been in the faith as long and the answer is still yes. The truth is not bounded by time. The new person might have a new take on the information that is important. We should be evaluating for truth and not tradition.
@@rafaelwilks The one that is most true. The only reason there are different interpretations is someone is not following what the Bible says or is not listening to the Holy Spirit as they should. We follow God and not the traditions of man
@@rafaelwilks your laughter does not sound like you agree with that position. it is late where I am at. Please respond with you logic and I will get back to you. I also do not mind long responses, so please expand on what it is you think.
I'm delighted to hear that. Keep studying; take in what they have to tell you; but remain appropriately skeptical. And keep reading a wide variety of texts, not just the ones assigned to you. And know that I will pray for you.
I just found this today and this was uploaded 10 years ago.
and its still helping every curious mind.
Thank you Bishop and Word on Fire Thank you.
We love you so so much Bishop Barron. We pray for the pope, bishops, priests, clergies, and religious and especially for you Bishop Barron. We ask God to please keep you safe and healthy so you can continue to do God's will. You have helped so many people to come back to church, to love God more, understand our faith, and the bible. You are such a great gift to the church. We are grateful to God to created you for our world. We need you desperately. We are also thank you Bishop Barron for gift of your vocation. You are priceless gift to the church and to the world. May our Beloved Lord and Savior bless you and your loved ones! We love you bishop!
I am speechless. Normally I read only the Gospels by Mathew, Mark, John and Luke and from time to time, not very often the letters by St. Paul. I always recommend beginners and ignorant people to read only the Gospels, but for being humble, I find myself lost and confused when I read the Old Testament. I like the Book of Wisdom and I bought the Bible by University of Navarra, which explains the content in perspective, just the way you do, nevertheless the historic overall framework you explain it is very didactic and much more interesting. You are not only a well bred and cultivated humanist, philosopher and theologist, but also a magnificent pedagogue. I never get tired to cultivate my intellect and my spirit with your friendly, astounding, clear and pragmatic teaching. I am a very big fan of you!
Thank you Bishop for this teaching!!
Thank God for the gift of this man and true shepherd of souls.
This video is excellent! A great encapsulation of such important ideas. Thank you for doing God's work, Father Barron!
So useful, God bless you Father
Thank you Bishop Barron!
I like your question. I've asked it myself a few times. I like Fathers response of course and this video. It all makes sense.
@archgin742000 Yes, you're wrong about this. Official revelation is closed. It ended with the death of the last apostle, that is to say, the last person to know Jesus Christ directly. All of Sacred Scripture tends toward Christ. Therefore, though God continues to speak in mitigated ways, official revelation is closed.
Father Barron, I'm a theology grad student at a rather liberal Catholic university, and I must say that your videos are a breath of fresh air! While I am studying the appropriate primary texts to become knowledgeable as a theologian, I often find myself fighting an uphill battle in class discussions as an orthodox Catholic. Your videos are a helpful supplement to the perspectives that I get in class, which I disagree with but cannot always precisely pinpoint how or why.
Felt the same as you. Was at a liberal Catholic University (Loras College) had to fight an uphill battle in defending Church Doctrine and Dogma.
@Mystagogia87 Perhaps it was not in the sources available to Mark. Perhaps it didn't fit Mark's overall theological purpose. This is why the Church was wise to canonize four Gospels and not just one.
2 January 2023- thank you for your insight
With your eyes and heart.
I had an excellent OT teacher who suggested that some Bible critics "atomize the text until it becomes irrelevant." I think it is good to ask all the hard questions, but also remember that reading the Bible is first and foremost an encounter with our Beloved Who loves us very much, and is drawing us into a deeper relationship with Him. I'm reading Pope Benedict's book now, and it is wonderful.
Well that's just a tad smug, don't you think? You might be kind enough to point out precisely where you think I'm mischaracterizing Spinoza.
Thank you so much--likewise!
Father Barron: I found this video immensely helpful in pointing a way forward through some crucial questions with which I have been struggling. As in other videos, you communicate a sophisticated and nuanced approach that is much more satisfying to me than the flattened out fundamentalist Protestant hermeneutic or the dry, rationalistic method of the higher critical scholars, to say nothing of the irrelevant musings of liberal theologians who only echo the unbelief of the surrounding culture.
Watching this just after Judge ACB was confirmed on the Supreme Court. This same discussion is an important one for how we read and interpret the US Constitution.
I read the first Jesus of Nazareth but couldn't afford the other two. Finally a student of Bishop Barron became my pastor and he! loaned me the other two.
Who’s your pastor?
@@BishopBarron Father Luis Tinajero.
I have been so moved by PBXVI's introduction in Jesus of Nazareth, engagement with the historical critical method, Dei Verbum, etc, etc, I have been going to an Eastern Cath parish - I am now challenged by a deacon of the Church, PhD from an esteemed, mainstream Catholic university in Biblical Studies - whom I had overheard providing a layperson resources defending 1) the belief that dinosaurs and humans were coexistant, which assumes 2) a young-earth time scale & 3) validity of such reading.
Could not agree with you more, Bishop Barron.
@Maritoni79 ".It's our responsibility to grow spiritually but maybe the Church complicates it a bit"
I would say it does indeed complicate it, but not in the way I think you mean. Being a member of local congregation is always messy, since it's the intersecting of many different lives, yet this is something to which we are called (Hebrews 10:25).
This should be interesting! Nothing better than watching a bishop Barron video with only 2600 views! It must be a video only for chosen people! ❤❤
Because of the origin of the compiled bible. Though collections of sacred writings, varying in extent, existed in the various local Churches of Christendom, the canon or official list of Scripture was only compiled by the Church toward the end of the fourth century-at Hippo in 393, Carthage in 397, whence it was sent to Rome for confirmation in 419. The Bible may be called the notebook of the Church, and she has always claimed to be the guardian, exponent, and interpreter of it. . .
No, I'm arguing that it is counter-productive to read the Bible outside of a disciplined and ancient interpretive tradition. And yes, I do think there are lots of deeply inadequate readings of the Bible.
Why? Because we would find out that actually what RCC is teaching is wrong? How can you be so dishonest, when you know that what Bible says on ALOT of things so obviously contradicts RC traditions. All of you who have studied under roman catholic church know that that's the case, you are selling this to people who haven't read properly the Bible ever. You mustb be aware that lying to people is a sin in God's eyes. How can you sleep at night? May Holy Spirit, the true Spirit of Jesus Christ lead you to confession of the truth. May the Lord be with you so you stop lying to poor people like you did for centuries. A true wolf in the skin of a sheep
The Bible can tell you anything that you want to know!
How deeply intellectual.
Dear Bishop Barron: You speak fluent English and German, so this may interest you: The entire (Protestant) Bible is now available in Pennsylvania Dutch with King James English on every page in the margin. It's called "Die Heilich Shrift [sic]." The New Testament in PD, called "Es Nei Teshtament" with the Psalms and Proverbs has been available since the 1990s. Danke fuer Ihre Videos.
14.05.17
Father Barron,
Can you recommend first, your preferred Bible translation and second, the study Bibles you recommend. I currently have the RSV2CE and the Ignatius study Bible and am thinking about picking up the Navarre series as well. I am new to the Faith (just confirmed this Easter) and want to be sure I am getting good orthodox Catholic teaching but also something meaningful and spiritual. God Bless you and the work you are doing!
Jason
Epic, Love the Bible much indeed!!!
@BeingItself
Ever heard of the Gospels?
Plus, other parts of the New Testament may have been written by people other than the Apostles, however these people were disciples of the Apostles and wrote their letters during their lifetime and therefore were among what is direct revelation. What Father Barron is saying is that when the last Apostle died, direct revelation was closed. Nothing confusing about that.
It's delightful to find such a wise video about Bible reading. I've started to take a free short course online about the Bible from the historical perspective, but the scholars (apparently well known christians) were saying things such as: "the apostles had SOME EXPERIENCE of Jesus after his death", "Jesus was a healer through faith", "the virgin birth maybe was written just to emphasize the importance of Jesus" and that just didn't seem right to me. I mean, I'm only starting, so I don't know much about historical interpretation, whether this is consensus or not, but I'm almost sure these claims are arguable
Fr, you are absolutely correct. In fact the higher criticism of the 19th century protestants was condemned for being too rationalistic. In that sense, the Church will always manage to see the teachings in the Holy Bible in light of contemporary issues, without forgetting obviously the context in which they are put.
Hi Bishop Barron. Can you please do a video on the Apocryphal and Deutocanical books of the bible please, and if Catholics accept or reject them. Thank you
Father, do you have any opinion on The Great Adventure bible? both the bible itself and the concept of the timeline. I saw many reviews from lay people, but none from a clergy.
the scriptures are unchangeable yet alive.
@Splatterviz You seem like you are very educated biblical scholar.
@Splatterviz 'call em like you see em' isn't really the best way to study scripture. You need to looknat the context and overall message .
agree❤👍😊
The Bible has two authors: the human, which makes a literal interpretation possible, and the divine, which makes a spiritual interpretation necessary. The Gospel of Matthew and the Letter to the Hebrews give a spiritual interpretation to many of the texts of the Old Testament (Hebrew Bible).
@wordonfirevideo Is it possible, though, that if and when (please God), the Eastern and Western Churches achieve complete unity, that some of the larger Orthodox canons might be accpeted? Or, to put it another way, is the canon as defined at Trent a positive canon that simply tells us which books we *must* accept as Scripture, or is it a negative canon, in which all the books not listed are definitively *excluded* from the canon?
@wordonfirevideo
Immediately, 2 Tim 3:16 came to mind while watching. This verse is often used to defend the "bible-alone" position. I regularly reply that St. Paul was referring to the Old Testament since he didn't know that his writings were going to be a part of any future collection (New Testament). He was also refuting the popular theory du jour that the OT was useless for believers of the new "Way." Is this a good example where the historical, critical method is the way to go?
You're so smart. How many ways can you show how Pope Benedict at whatever stage in his writing life points to one thing and one thing only, God! Lately, frustrated with the Catholics lack of impact on the abortion crisis, I think, as you said, we let other people tell our story. We fight with their fire. They say a collection of cells we say it is not. How about we say yes, it is a collection of cells and it is also Gods love, his gift to us and his thought. We leave God out and so we fail.
@Maritoni79 "...maybe the Church complicates it a bit"
Also, being part of the Catholic Church also makes things more complicated because I can no longer pick and choose which bits of the faith I'm going to follow. At the same time, however, this makes things considerably simpler. Without the Church, it is just me trying to interpret Scripture on my own. How do I know I've got the right interpretation? Fortunately, I have an authoritative Church (1 Tim 3:15) to teach me.
Amen! That is what brought me back to Catholicism. I repented of my arrogance in thinking I could figure it all out, and humbled myself to accept the teachings of the Apostles' students (the Early Church Fathers), and their successors.
@wordonfirevideo What are some of the possible sources that were available to Mark?
Bishop Barron for Pope please. 😊
My neighbor claims that reading the Bible everyday is the only thing you need to do in order to be saved from going to hell, he has probably read it 1000 times from start to finish, BUT the problem is that he does everything opposite of what the Bible teaches, he claims that it doesn't matter what you do, the only salvation is to read the bible everyday. He once told me that one day he was asked many Bible questions and was ridiculed by a Pastor because he couldn't answer them, starting that day he swore that he would memorize the Bible and learn every scripture just to get revenge and ridicule others especially Catholics by asking them and quizzing them on Bible knowledge just like that pastor did to him. And now he loves to confront and challenge the jehova witnesses that knock on his door and loves to ridicule them. I think my neighbor is nuts, but he has read the Bible. I don't know what you guys think, comment below. Thanks
pray for him, and ask the Holy Spirit to use the humble wisdom, knowledge, and understanding he has been given for the greater glory of God. As for you, love your neighbor as yourself.
brain residue - thank you, I truly appreciate and welcome your advise feedback. You are a very wise person, I will do that, you might think I am crazy , but sometimes I can feel the presence of Satan possessing my neighbor's body when he goes nuts attacking others with the Bible, later he acts like a very nice, compelling human being as if nothing happened, its like as if he is bipolar.
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The unknown authors wrote about their belief in God, it’s not until the later addition of the Epistle of Timothy, that the belief of “divinely inspired” crept in after the first three gospels.
In one of your previous videos (I can't find it now, or I would be commenting there) you mentioned that the Bible is a library that mixes symbolical and historical. My question is, if Genesis 1is symbolical (which modern science strongly implies), then how is original sin real (or how do we know it's real)?
How do we know original sin real? Isn't it apparent from your life that it's real?
We all, even the heretics and atheists, have a strong sense that there is a way the world *ought to be*, and we can all equally see that people are naturally inclined to do the opposite. Particularly amidst modernity you should see it in rampant obesity, vanity, materialism, and vitriol.
If you are humble you will see it in yourself every day, when in a thousand small ways you are taken to hatred rather than pity, sloth rather than duty, despair rather than hope, or indulgence rather than prudence.
@wordonfirevideo Forgive my lack of knowledge, I haven't read the bible since I was a child. Paulus wrote a great deal of the New Testament, but if memory serves he never met Jesus. He also got people to start evangelize, but didn't Jesus say specifically that he was there for the people of Israel? Anyway, how does Paulus relate to the official stance regarding the last people to know Jesus Christus *directly*? I'm probably wrong, but no harm in saying something...
I read some of the NJBC by Brown once and his approach of only using the historical-critical method leads him to deny things like the visitation even happened. Even more unsettling is how it essentially treats the infancy narrative as fiction.
Father Barron: Your remarks on Pope Benedict's method of reading Scripture are urgently relevant to me. I have been reading "The Human Faces of God" by Thom Stark. This book addresses some very legitimate historical-critical concerns, but thus far (I have not quite finished the book) has not salvaged the value of the Bible as divine revelation, as a unified whole. It seems to me that historical-critical theologians are prone to set themselves as judges over the Bible. Without the Church, what?
why is everyone arguing i'm just watching this for school lmao
tru dat
same bruh
youth evangelization 2k17!
Arguing over what
sammee 4 years later
@wordonfirevideo And another way of saying "official revelation is closed" is to say revelation has already occurred.
I absolutely love the Catholic faith!
Bishop what does the Catholic Church belief in Fallen Angels? Angels that has intimate relations with women from earth? What’s the stance on Nephalim?
Hi Bishop Barron, is there a Bible commentary series that you would recommend?
Hi I'm not Bishop Barron but you should buy his first volume of the series "Word On Fire Bible: The Gospels"
@@johnericpamintuan4800 thanks!
@addictedkoala This is the problem that I am having. I have that same commentary but as a brand new Catholic, I definitely do not need Bible study that is pulling me away from the teaching of the Church. If someone was going to be an advanced Bible scholar I can see the use of such critical methods of investigation but I am not there as of yet.
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00:09 📖 Pope Benedict's study focuses on Jesus' life, passion, death, and resurrection, with an approach rooted in a theological hermeneutic.
00:37 🧐 The historical-critical method seeks to uncover human authors' intentions within their historical context, considering literary forms, cultural anthropology, and history.
02:53 🌍 The method's value lies in revealing the historical dimension of scripture and clearing misinterpretations, but it may overlook the vertical dimension of divine authorship.
04:46 🔍 The historical-critical method might isolate the Bible in its historical context, hindering its applicability and relevance for contemporary readers.
06:21 🔍 A theological hermeneutic complements the historical-critical approach, interpreting scripture with attention to divine authorship and the Church's theological tradition.
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The reason I've ultimately abandoned the historical critical method (even though I remain sola scriptura) is not merely that it's not how it's been traditionally interpreted (including the first protestants); it's not even how the apostles did it. When Paul read the OT as a Jew it lead him to slaughter Christians. It was only after he saw Christ that the true meaning of scripture revealed itself
You said there is a "unity of purpose". Have you never considered that the apparent structure and unity in the bible is simply a result of the First Council of Nicaea? Which, in a sense, makes the bible one of most, if not the most, edited and censured books of all time. If you remove things considered to be confusing, unknown or above all contradictory, then you do get a sense of structure and purpose, no matter the subject.
I'm reading the Old Testament for Lent. I'm in the middle of Leviticus, and must admit this book confuses me. It appears to be a book of very specific rules and regulations God set for dealing with certain conditions.
While I find some of it interesting, I wonder why God felt compelled to give such highly detailed instructions to Moses? How does it fit with the rest of the Bible?
There is a lot of relevant material in Leviticus; you just have to think and look for it. Leviticus 7, for instance, has instruction for peace offering made with thanksgiving. The Greek word for thanksgiving is Eucharist. It's the only offering I know of in which all participants can join the priests in consuming the flesh of the offered animal, so long as those participants are 'clean.'
Many years ago, I decided to read the Bible from cover to cover. I didn't make it very far in the Old Testament, to say the least. I thought the whole Bible was like that, so I gave up. Now, I stick mostly with the New Testament.
For you it must be easy, you read it, decide that is not what it says then lie to everyone about whey it REALLY says
@wordonfirevideo What does 'official' mean? 'Public' ok, 'Necessary for Salvation', ok, although everyone accepts there can be private revelation. Since the CHURCH (God+Man) wrote scripture don't really see why the Church couldn't add to it. Let's say I'm on vacation in Turkey and find the letter to the Laodiceans (Colossians 4:16) Wouldn't we just add it to our bibles?
PS: Liked your article on the Libyan war.
@wimsweden Paul never met Jesus? Who did he run into on the way to Damascus? Peter and the other Apostles certainly thought he ran into Jesus.
I would be surprised if any thinking christian had not at least been aware of the 'historical-critical' method. I use it to read the Bible but not alone. I am guided by Church in my use of this method, since an abuse of the 'historical-critical' method can lead to one denying the resurrection and the miracles of Jesus as one is aware of with Bultmann. As Father Barron says one should always be aware the Holy Spirit is the author of the Bible and further it's the inerrant Word of God.
Has this method invariably lead to the rise of humanism/secularism?
I have a question:
In the Catechism of the Catholic Church is a passage about faith and science. In this passage is written that there can't be a real contradiction between faith and science.
I have a scientific world view, but I'm also catholic. I believe (mostly) in the things science and history discover. Where there's no contradiction between science and the Bible, that's the point from which I start to consider that what's written in the Bible is literally true. So, I am absolutely for science, but not 'scientism'. I really think that Jesus was resurected and all these things that doesn't contradict science and history.
Is this a valid way of reading the Bible, if I'm catholic? Thank you for your replies!
Franz Müller bro you can’t be a christian and not believe in the resseruction. The resseruction is a historical fact.
This is exactly how we read Scripture as Catholics. One way the Catechism puts it quite bluntly is, "Truth can never contradict truth." There is great wisdom in that saying, meaning that any authentic and real scientific truth can only help our understanding of who God is. The Creator - and the order of the mind of the Creator - is revealed in our ever-developing understanding of His creation. And inasmuch as science, with its rational theories and methodical proofs, teaches us about the universe and how it functions, it is teaching us about the One who created all of it.
Now, in those moments when science can appear to contradict the Bible, it is important to understand what the Bible is, and what it isn't. That's why it is so essential to not be blindly reading scripture apart from the community, the Church, who alone is the arbiter of authentic interpretation.
Your point about science vs. scientism is extremely prescient.
I am sorry but this left me a little confused. I am new to the Bible and Christianity. I am not very intelligent but am wanting to know more about jesus in a manner that is easy to understand. Any suggestions?
You may want to try looking into an RCIA (Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults) class in a parish nearby. Tell them what you are struggling with. They might recommend you with sources you may be comfortable trying.
CZcams has a series every weekday at 2:00 PM called Call to Communion you can search and follow.
EWTN is a Catholic website with many sources.
You should definitely stay away from the heavy hitters like St. Thomas Aquinas. I myself couldn't get into it. I'm not that smart.
The writings of St. Therese of Lisieux are approachable I hear.
My personal suggestion is to learn about Judaism, their history, their festivals. Then learn about typology. That is how the New Testament parallels the Old Testament as its fulfillment.
Blessings and good luck. 🙏
@@luisaymerich9675 Thank you for taking the time to reply to me. May God bless you also.
Similar to the TIS movement
Now that bishop barron is a member of the usccb, perhaps he can influence the usccb to fix the nabre and its notes which are so heavily influenced by the historical-critical method and so lacking in the theological method.
This as been a very informative background to studying the Biblical texts. I thought the broader inclusion at moving from the " horizontal" to the "Vertical" view of scripture. The BBC presentation in this Lenten period of "hidden secrets in the Bible" by a Dr Francesca Stavrakopoulou fits exactly the latter with error. This has been very disconcerting (poor theology) but unfortunately dressed as important treatises of merit. It is archived but should hold a warning
My IQ is 135-40... His has got to be at least 145-150.. I think im an intelligent guy, but good gosh... Some people just smoke me.
Alex Romanov Congrats! Without Christ, you'll be one of the most intelligent man in hell.
That was genius. Haha
haha I understand. Mine is around 130. I have the same experience watching his videos though. He is irrefutably intelligent. Also, he is one of the most well spoken and articulate speakers I've ever listened too.
Any intelligent person would know I.Q testing is an outdated, primitive way to measure ones intellect.
@TheEvolvedMind "Have you never considered that the apparent structure and unity in the bible is simply a result of the First Council of Nicaea?"
Are you trying to assert that the Bible was compiled at Nicea? I'm afraid that this is a common assumption but has absolutely no basis.
"...makes the bible one of most, if not the most, edited and censured books of all time"
Do you have any evidence to back up this claim?
Shh
So I'm having problems with my mom.I told her i didn't want to be catholic anymore and i don't want to be confirmed in the confirmation.Then she goes crying and getting angry saying i have to because it runs in the family.I want to know your opinion does someone have to be forced to do the confirmation and violate the first amendment or do you follow the first amendment freedom of religion and understand their opinion?
once you are baptized in the Catholic Church, you are catholic for life. no man-made laws can sever the graces of God brought upon by the sacrament of baptism.
right now, you are just one confused catholic. and perhaps, your mom is also confused for saying, "it runs in the family".
you will return to the Church, like the prodigal son, when you are older...just like many of us...
analgesic i mean I'm no confused person i know this is not my path,and i know for a fact god isn't real which is why i stopped believing it's called religion for a reason it's just an opinion meaning it's just fake
First thing: the First Amendment doesn't protect you from your mom. The First Amendment prevents the government from forcing you to practice or not practice a religion, but holds no sway over your mother, who is a power ever more terrible and absolute. What you can hope for is that she at least is listening to you. That doesn't mean she is going to think you are right. You have to remember, understanding someone isn't the same as agreeing with them. Try to understand her as well. That's something we owe to everyone we love.
My next question is how did you come to this decision? From the way you write, plus the fact that the one video on your channel is a Minecraft video, you strike me as being pretty young. I'm 25 now; I remember at 14 or 15 I was very confident in my own opinions, and in hindsight was also very ignorant and thoughtless. This isn't to say that you can't make decisions; instead, your ability to do that is emerging and developing, so I urge you to pause and consider this with some patience and humility. See if you can take some time to talk to a priest or youth group leader about your doubts. Those folks should know their stuff, and if they're any good at their job, they'll listen to what you have to say. From your other comment below, it sounds like you have some intellectual objections to christianity. Explore them. What/Who/How do you think God is? Do you know the arguments that aim to demonstrate His existence? Do they satisfy you or not, and why? Bishop Barron has some solid videos on the subject; I recommend "Why Do We Believe in God?" to start. CS Lewis is also worth reading. You'll more than likely find Mere Christianity at the library. These questions are important, so it is good for you to explore them.
I was confirmed last year. I remember as I was waiting for Mass to begin, I began to pray the Hail Mary, which is my go to prayer for those times when I feel lost and uncertain. Before I was even halfway done, I felt like I was stopped, as if someone had laid a hand on my shoulder (the feeling, not the physical sensation). Do not be afraid, you are right where you belong. Not with a voice, not in that precise phrasing, but I knew then that I was where I needed to be.
Hope this turns out right for you. Hit me with any thoughts/questions you have.
Jack Bouchard so i see you took your time and wrote a whole book now here's the thing you ready?God isn't real which is why i stopped believing
I figured that out from one of your other comments. That's why I brought it up in the first place. What I'm curious about is what convinced you that God doesn't exist.
I read a catholic blogger who suggested that the Bible wasn’t written for us and that it is selfish to think that the Bible would be or should be applicable to our modern lives. How silly to think Jesus at the market would teach us a lesson about amazon prime day. It’s not what God intended, she explained. But when we read the Bible we should stop asking “what is the Bible trying to say to me?” And start asking “what is the Bible saying about God.” I haven’t picked up a Bible in 15 years. I don’t know why I went out and got one. Curious as to what it’ll say to me now. If it speaks at all. I live my life wholesome and righteous without any threat or belief I’ll go to hell if I don’t. And I should clarify that what I call wholesome and righteous is based on what I perceive Christ to be. I love and cherish my gay daughter. I am on my second marriage. I held my other daughters hand after her abortion. I don’t feel any part of my life as a darkness. I only ever felt I was filthy and unworthy of Gods love when I was in the Protestant Church. Maybe a Catholic Church would’ve done the same. I don’t know. I would like to ask a simple humble question. Why, given that I’m a happy peaceful, daughter mother, wife and sister, would I NEED to read the scriptures again. I read a few verses and I’m unmoved.
Hopefully you respond to what God calls you to do when He calls you to do it. Maybe one day that will be to read the Bible he created. Have you ever had a saying that your family or friends taught you, maybe a quote that you've read you often live by? Many do this with the scriptures, the Living Word of God, who is also Jesus Christ Himself. He revealed Himself to the authors of the New and Old testament's, in order that His Gospel would be handed down to us. I've had experiences where God has spoken directly through scripture to ME personally. The Word is an an infinite well spring of life just waiting to be drawn from. May God Bless you and your family always, and lead you to eternal life.
@@iesumaria1743 God bless you
I don't understand the Bible at all, when I was reading it back on High School!
Aj Jingco, the bible is way to complex to understand as a high school student. There are people who have dedicated their lives to the study of scripture, and they still don't understand it.
I was "amening" all the way until the end at the part about church tradition helping to interpret the scriptures. All interpretation can be taken care of by the historical critical method, and then there's the question of what does that mean for us today. That's important to wrestle with and maybe church tradition can help. But I would be concerned if church tradition today tries to apply the Bible in as drastically different ways then what was originally intended, as the Apostles did with the OT scripture because of the coming of Jesus. They saw everything pointing to Jesus, seemingly even more than the OT authors themselves. But I think we are more bound to the historical critical view then they were. I probably think that because I'm Protestant and believe that they were the Apostles that the church was founded on, rather than apostolic succession.
church tradition upholds the truths of the bible. the catholic church compiled the bible. of course scripture should not be misused but can individuals say what is misuse? Jesus established His Church to be the pillar of truth.
who is it that he is talking to :D
That's my question too.
Fr. Barron, one of the big obstacles to faith in our time--as you call it a heresy--is people going "oh yeah? if you don't take it all literally, how do you know which parts are and which parts aren't literal." It's all over your comments. You should do a video on that and the heretics will be like whoa
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I thought in Catholicism only their priests, bishops, cardinals and the pope actually read the Bible. Everyone else just follows along in their missals (?) during Sunday mass and responds in unison…not actually reading the Bible very much. Is this not true?
Bishop Barron What answer can you give to a muslim preacher ,that says why we say "God's begotten Son " when he said .. begotten means having a intimate relation with your wife and God doesnt have intimate relation and no wife ..I know it means something else in the bible..but I dont like nobody trying to confuse others with this type of statements.
It is impossible for man to have a son not having a wife. But is it impossible for God? We are talking about the real God. How can He be limited as human beings? Doesn't make any sense..
Do catholics read the bible ?? Lay catholics..may be the priests do but 99 % of the Catholics i have met rarely read the bible.
Yes, actually we do read the Bible.
@@katherinecobing7059 when is the last time you read it cover to cover ??
I must ask. I am reading the bible specifically Genesis. Why does it portray God as an angry vindictive god. It talks about destroying the world, destroying cities. Refer to Genisis 19.
watch Bishop Barron video about vengefull God
Please don't mention Spinoza if you don't know what you're talking about.
Step 1: learn to read
Lol
The entire Bible, read as one book, points or leads to Christ.
CZcams is so annoying. I’m looking for a LITERAL explanation on how to read verse in the Bible, not some long-winded soliloquy. Ugh
The Bible cannot be read like a compendium of tax legislation...this can lead to reductionism and the overall coherence is vital...no significant Christian scholar relies on this method alone to my mind.
I didn't vote. I couldn't chose between the two evils. But you seem to have all the statics so you tel me why did 54% of Catholic voters vote of Obama. If you don't have the exact data give a guess other than they are hypocrites. The word hypocrite does not really come in in politics. So give me a political reason.
@angelamariapreuss If you’re asking in a general way-I mean, not in a data based way-I think that almost all voters who voted for Mr. Obama did so because they saw him as a proof of change figure. His election meant that the United States had ‘outgrown’, ‘overcome’, the biases that marked our earlier history. Mr. Obama represented, to those voters, a new social direction.
This attitude was marked by ‘supporters’ fainting, and screaming out, at his speeches, in his presence-just as teens do in the presence of Rock Stars. This attitude is also reflected in the decision of the mass media not to allow him to fail as a president-except for a few, more conservative outlets, nothing he did was criticized.
I think that that thinking underlay the need, of intellectuals, to present him with a “Nobel Peace Prize” before he had done anything to bring about ‘peace’-whatever that word means. We are still arguing over whether his treaties accomplished anything good in the world.
Anyway, I think that’s the reason 54% of Catholics voted for Mr. Obama. I think that those are the reasons voting for a pro abortionist took precedence over such Catholic beliefs as anti abortion.
The result, in so far as I can tell, is that, instead of a more united population, we have degenerated into a population based in numerous identity groups, each one seeking benefits (power) for itself at the expense of all the others. The only groups that everyone else can legitimately hate, and suppress, are White, Straight, male, Catholics. We are not in a good place since the election of Mr. Obama.
How do you know for sure, that the bible is not literal? how do you for which parts are literal and others are not? there is no way to tell, if you say something things are not literal, then maybe god, is not literal.... answer please..
I'm not a bible scholar or anything but the bible is often viewed as one books when its mainly books. The books are made up of different genres of writing some which might have literal text and other books which include text which are considered figurative.
The Bible is not secular history. The Bible is an allegory whose fictitious characters have meaning, but man, unfortunately, has mistaken the personifications for persons and the instrument which conveyed the instruction for the instruction.
The Bible is not secular history, but the history of salvation. It has nothing to do with any land, but it is all about you who walk the lands of the earth. Always remember that all the characters of Scripture are states of consciousness personified. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, none of these forefathers of Jesus appear in any Near Eastern work whatsoever. They do not appear either as individuals or as tribes. Appearing only in Scripture, they are eternal states through which God passes as he unfolds his purpose in you. And his purpose is to give himself to you as though there were no other, just God and you, and finally only you, for you are He.
The name "Isaac" means "he laughs." Isaac was Abraham's promised son. He is the sign the shepherds were told to find as a child wrapped in swaddling clothes. You will see this sign, and as you take that child in your arms he laughs.
The word "Moses" means, "to be born." Moses could not enter the promised land because he had not yet been born. It is Moses who leads you up to the one being who is yourself. I have seen that one being and I know he contains the entire universe. From a distance he appeared as one man, but as I approached I saw he contained a multitude of nations, races, and people.
Now I know that all that I behold, though it appears without it is within my imagination, of which this world of mortality is but a shadow. Truly the world is nothing more than yourself pushed out. And in the end you come out to discover you are that one Man who contains eternity - the one Being spoken of as the Lord Jesus Christ.
GL bro :)
You understand the genre of each book in the Bible. Your question is like asking; how do we know that the Aeneid is not literal? It's a silly question. It's a poem, and so we read it like a poem.
+Michael D.Weller I am confused by the bible because there are verses and chapters between verses!
Jesus established the Catholic Church as the teaching authority. That's why Christianity cannot be "bible alone." The Church is the authority Jesus left us with and the Church wrote and compiled the Bible (New Testament) and is therefore the only qualified authority to teach it. That's why you need the authority of the Church. Otherwise it's just everyone's personal opinion against everyone else's personal opinion which equals chaos and confusion, i.e., protestantism.
@wordonfirevideo
What? It seems as if you are under the impression that the writers of the NT actually knew Jesus personally. But, as any educated person knows, that's just false.
Using your criteria, the whole NT is not "sacred scripture". LOL.
Read the Bible, Mr. Barron. Read Ephesians chapter 2 verses 8 and 9. Faith not works