What Timeline Is Savitar From? - The Flash Season 3 Future Flash Explained
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Nice Video Bro
Oh my god! Thanks dude means so much that you watched the video
The Flash 4K I wish someone like you watched my vidio
FLASH 4k!!!! I love your trailers! and mini clips!
Let's talk about this boy's messed up head i mean come on
Night Renegade Yeah what happen to his face?
So barry is the fastest man alive
FINALLY
This was the worst reveal yet. I hate this formula: Speedster villain, turns out to be someone Barry knows, Barry defeats the villian.
Akilah ikr so boring after a while🔄🔄🔄
Eobard Thawne whoa calm down bro
eobard do you forget that you screamed who is the villain now!! in episode 1???
you Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough to See Yourself become the villain
I agree :)
carolyn wayua this comment is getting so annoying
carolyn wayua i know right, this is the 11th time ive seen it
Nice copy paste
spot spamming this non sense from every flash s3e20 episode reveal
You remember All of IT. You remember Being me. IF he is remembers his life he cant be from another timeline flashpoint
Exactly! I was thinking the same thing.
Nora Georgieva He is the from the night when he stopped season 1 Barry but season 3 Barry saved her which made the Barry who stopped season 1 barry go to the speedforce, that's my theory, he can also be the time remnant
Future Barry on that night had everything, Iris, joe , and all that, that's why on the paper(Reverse flash paper) it says Flash disappeared after a fight with RF
Gamma, exactly. He has to have lived in season 3 aswell, we saw last episode he told KF everything present Barry whould say.
I also believe that he's from the night when he stopped season 1 Barry from saving his mom.
Season 1 Flash goes back in time to save his mom -> Future Flash stops him then grabs and runs young Barry out of there -> After saving his younger self he runs back into the speed force (returning back to the future) -> Season 3 Flash comes and saves his mom from Reverse Flash, season 1 Flash disappears, so you can safely assume that Future Flash also disappears while he was in the speed force running back to his time, but with the speed force protecting him from disappearing it trapped him in the speed force instead.
My theory right there.
barry as savitar is from the future of s1 and s2 timeline if barry hadnt created FP...i.e the timeline thawne created after he killed nora thats why thawne never mentioned savitar its possible that in that timeline in some future of it barry after losing his father loses his mind after 2024 event and travels back in time to become first ever speedster using the stone (if he might have lost his powers and travelled using time machine or just went back to enhance it ) then he went back from his time to face his own version before the 2024 event to kill him or make his life miserable who defeated him w/o proabably knowing his identity because the tech to trap a speedster in speedforce was available till then but the version of barry who trapped him didnt knwo it was his own future self.but then the same version of barry but from the present had a different thought because all the decisions depend on him rest are just a future predictions or probabilities he created FP which gave evil barry way to escape via wally because wally had been chosen as speedforce compatible by speedforce itself in an alternate timeline which proves that evil barry didnt have
or know wally as kid flash before so he turned wally into kid flash after barry reset the timeline manipulated all the events using julian who might have been a part of team flash in the future of pre FP timeline so he knew that sooner or later he will be again in the team after that when he came to the post FP timeline he began to have all the memories of his own post FP present version so whatever bary did or thinks of savitar gets the knowledge as his memories as if he lived it because his past self was there and because he was in speedforce he was protected from being erased when barry created FP and reset it . so he got another chance to confront his more younger self and due to present barry being more young and immature his probability of success increased by killing iris and creating a version of future which we saw in e19 where barry is sad on losing iris but he trapped him as soon as tech was invented in 2020 but killing iris might be evil barrys plan to turn the emo barry into savitar one day so thie future of post FP timeline would become like pre FP timeline but then present barry went to gets answers fro emo bary and came back with plan to created the trap even earlier thus changing savitars memories and he got to know what present barry is planning now and sent killer frost after them ............also this theory is backed as how . jay garrick knew about saviatr because after becoming savitar he might have travelled to different earths and conquered them ( and because that version of barry was from future of pre FP even after that timeline being altered after creation of FP his journey accross multiverse might have remained unchanged) and when he was trapped in speedforce all speedsters who had access might have learned it from speedforce myths about savitar and his travels accross time and dimensions because no matter what e3 and other earths arent effected by barrys travels and timeline changes within e1 except if his evils version travelled accrossed dimensions and time so they might have knwn about him..................... (niether did black flash exist before because perhaps in original timeline barry never faced zoom or even if he did face him that might have been much later and he might have stopped him some other way without turning him into black flash because the time reverse killed nora black flash didnt exist other wise revrse might have known about it too)
I think that he is from the present timeline we are watching because it clearly says he lived every moment leading up to iris's, death, a future barry/savitar wouldn't know how much iris ment to barry and all the moments leading up to it if he was from a different timeline other than flashpoint.
Agree
Savitar said he is before Flashpoint
I wish episode 21 was on right now.
jamie fletcher 20 still isn't even out here I've had a major spoiler
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TheDCTVshow mad reveals The way they did it was sick
It was sooo good!
TheDCTVshow yeh personally I think it's the best reveal on flash so far, The way they did it was mad
its hard to say we don't have alot to go off
ur wrong because in the new trailer they show us hes from the future because they erase barry's memories and that affects savitar soooo yea just from the future.
nah bro hes prob a version of barry that time traveled back to flashpoint from the future when flashpoint (for those three months) existed and followed our barry back to the timeline they are in now
So here is what i think:
-Savitar version of Barry is from the Flashpoint timeline
-normally he cant remember our Barry's timeline
BUT
-he has the philosopher's stone which enables him to override the characters from our Barry's timeline with their 'selves' from the flashpoint timeline. So with that stone you can access the memories of your Flashpoint self.
-since Savitar has now the stone and knows how to use it, he can access our Barry's memories without completely overriding his own character..
and that is how he knows what is to come..
ALSO
we thought that we left the flashpoint behind in the beginning of the season, that there was only some cleaning up to do after the flashpoint mess.. but it is not correct.. because the villain of the season has been a production of the timeline all along..
AND
well, technically there is not enough time left in this season now to come up with a completely independent BG story to Savitar.. he must have to have originated in Flashpoint..
That makes alot of sense. One thing people aren't taking into consideration is: If Savitar actually IS barry from the future, no one has that good of a memory to remember the exact thing he said 7 years ago.
Youssef Maged speedsters remeber things differently.
Youssef Maged he would remember how his past self was like and know exactly what he would do, also savitar is the BIGGEST enemy flash has had, said by abrakadabra, so flash would remember battling his greatest enemy
Savitar can't be from a different timeline because then he won't have the memories of the Barry from the flashpoint timeline. Like if you understand what I'm sayin
Savitar is before Flashpoint
But what he's saying is if Savitar is from pre-Flashpoint, then how does he have the same memories as this post-Flashpoint Flash? Cause remember in the episode we see Killer Frost repeating Barry word for word, and tells the whole group that 'this is all history to him'... so how can Savitar (aka pre-Flashpoint Barry) have those exact same memories as our Barry (post-Flashpoint Barry)?
GR Oblivions yep
GR Oblivions. He could, he might have been in the speed force from that timeline and magically ended up there. Then he could see the past, present, future of himself. Or he could have seen as history being rewriting itself.
Savitar was made when our Barry went to 2024 to ask emo Barry who about Savitar. He made emo barry become the Flash again and in time (April 25 like the newspaper said, this was weeks away when Barry travelled) he lost everyone he cared about, Joe, Cisco, etc.. This forced him to blame our barry for making him become
The flash ('you took everything from me'). Savitars motives is 1 of 2 things, Kill Iris so this barry suffers and go through a similar pain he did, or I think maybe he he has to kill Iris so our barry goes through the same cycle, Iris dies > traps savitar > becomes emo > becomes the flash because of past barry > loses everyone > blames past barry > Goes back to kill Iris and so on.
Most likely the answer
But the emo barry was also affected by Savitar killing his Iris, so Savitar has to be from a distant future event
MegaMalo Another Barry 'Savitar' a one further in the future than emo barry. Seems like an occurring cycle.
CDot no if you remember what he said to iris "it is you or me" savitar has to kill iris to have Barry become savitar or else he will not exist in the timeline anymore
Tornadospeed10 Yes that's what I mean
Tornadospeed10 He sets him on the path he did to become Savitar
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Awesome video!!!
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All the theories are great. Good job
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what if because of present barry creating flash point future barry looses everything. and maybe barry is so powerful in the future he remembers everything from other timelines. so barry becomes so angry he fades away from the flash and stays in comeplete solitude. it finally drives him crazy and his anger for present barry makes him turn into savitar and punish him. this makes sense in my head but idk if it will to you.
Wizard F/A lol I have the same theory
also he kills iris because she dies anyway in the future so it makes no difference to him
DILINEAN it makes sense to me. so many people are saying its barrys time remenant which wouldnt make sense as the time remenant was created to defeat savitar not to become him..
Wizard F/A I feel like its ore flash point barry and at the end our barry will go back to pre flash point
DILINEAN that probably wont happen because then a lot of charcters wont exist. julian, hr and tracy brand who is said to be in s4
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i think its the "future" barry that was the first one trying to save his mother, he saw barry let his mother die and now he wants him to pay back for that so he chooses to go for iris. He probably got trapped in that time thus giving him the ability to train as much as he wants
Speed force isn't the Hyperbolic time chamber :D
So guys I think I know why future Barry is savitar.FirstTimeline:for those of you who have watched DC legends remember the future message from Barry in 2056 when he said a war is coming.He also said that he did something terrible and don't trust him.Why he became savitar:maybe somewhere in the future one of his love one died and he reached his braking point so he decided to go in time to kill his loved one so that he won't feel pain also erasing any memory he have of them
So guys that just my theory,needs work but what do you guys think
Good theory man!!!
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Good video like your ideas
Great video
Nice video 😃
Good video bro
Awesome video....
Savitar I think was made when at the end of season 2 finale when the remmemant version of Barry from the past survived and the present Barry sacrificed himself thus destroying the magnatar creating a way into the speedforce where he was trapped
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that makes sense because if you think that is how savitar came to be, it would make sense why he remembers things because like Barry his memory slowly got rewritten
Nice theories! I can't wait to find out if you are right. :)
Savitar wants to kill Iris so he could create himself, aka Barry without Iris becomes Savitar. Probably in distant Future, after 2024 and even further.
Simple Jack and a Horse Barry creating Flashpoint created Savitar. Future Barry from the original timeline is Savitar.
So Flash's fate is to become the most evil/fastest speedster?
Simple Jack and a Horse barry from the original timeline ? he is barry from the original timeline 😐
damn so many theories about Savitar's identity.. at some point I thought I'd be revealed as Savitar..
flashpoint gave Savitar the ability to break free, which means as well as other parts that he is from the future after flashpoint when you add the fact Savitar has lives every moment up to the reveal point already.
I think evil Barry has the memories of our Barry is similar to what happened to our Barry in flashpoint! Our Barry in season 3 episode 1 was losing his memories and getting new ones. The same thing would've happened to 2020 original flash. But this also explains why it's so easy to kill Iris. Bc the original 2020 flash's mom want killed by Thawne and lived so he was never taken in by joe west and grew up with Iris. She's like a stranger or a small acquaintance to 2020 original flash
Yes I totally agree!
Jason McGrady You mean 2020 or 2024 Flash?
In the first youtube link I posted, Thawne straight up admits that he eliminated 2020 Original Flash, casting him into non existence but thawne was stuck in the past after Nora Allens death so in order to get back home, he created a NEW FLASH, the 2015 Flash.
Yes, it was possible evil Barry is from another time line, but our Barry says "you remember when you were me". Savitar did say "flashpoint gave me the means for my return". So what's true??
First theory I see that take in account the creation of Flashpoint, which is the main plot device of this season. Nice!
Dying to hear "I'm guessing you wanna know how we got these scars."
this makes so much sense
Good Theory. Definitely Flashpoint scenario makes sense 👏👍🌐
I like the idea of him being from flashpoint or even the original timeline but he does remember everything this Barry went through. And he knew exactly what he would do/say, so he has to be the future of this Barry. How Barry becomes him, and also becomes the other future self to stop Savitar is gonna be a complete mind fuck for me though.
this was a really good video you are a great youtuber
I think he is a time remnant that is yet to be created. The is no way he can be from another time line or flashpoint because he remembers the conversation with Killerfrost.
I think that savitar is a mix of the flash point berry and the time remnant as you see there is two sides of his faces and his eyes are different.
I think the obvious answer was the Philosopher's Stone, which was the mcguffin for this season. Remember that it can restore memories from alternate timelines. Savitar used it to bring back the Rival. Edward Clarris had a normal life in the fixed timeline, and with the philosophers stone, he remembered Barry getting him killed in flashpoint.
So I think that Future Barry got in contact with the stone, got his memories of a life from an erased timeline, then got pissed off at himself for fucking up his old life.
holy crap ur first theory makes so much sense i bet thats what it is
I have to say I had it spoiled before I saw the episode. That being said the scene was still completely awesome when I saw it.
I kinda thought that since history isn't set in stone (as explained in LOT), Savitar could go back and change events without it effecting him. In the comics they explain that speedsters are outside space and time, that's how things like Blue flash(Barry from 20 years from now) and Reverse Flash can exist. they can become paradoxes.
your theory makes sense
what's the song playing at the end of this video? shazam isn't helping me...
nice theory but because savitar has the philosophers stone it doesn't matter from which timeline he comes from. because he can give people powers from other timelines it's possible that he knows things from other timelines.
I'm thinking it's Barry 's time remnant that he used to trap Zoom in the speed force. The remnant lost everything by doing that for him and was supposed to be erased from time but got stuck in the speed force instead. That would be a decent story versus just being a future Barry.
I'm like future flash when I go to burger king.
minimum wage worker: what do you want from us?
me: *EVERYTHING!*
this was uploaded on my b-day
It's barry time remunant from when he created this version of him to kill zoom explains the scars on he's face too but looks like possible he survived in the speed force and become evil some how. and to take back revenge he's future self for doin this to him. watch this vid where even Julian dorn even said Barry did this to him.
savitar is Barry Allen from flashpoint. he wants everything that Barry took from him, meaning his mom and dad that Barry allowed reverse flash to kill his mother thus "restoring" the time line. there are 2 things that are odd however, first Barry changed the future already because future Barry from "the once and future flash" doesn't know who savitar is, but present Barry does. second, if Barry from flashpoint never becomes the flash, but wants revenge on Barry, it would make sense that perhaps he uses and has perfected velocity 9 to gain speed hence the bluish lightning that savitar gives off
I love your videos and in ep 19 Future barry (2024) said "you will create Time Remanents and he will kill MOST of them." Key word MOST he must of let go the time remanent which was him.
This could be a test from the speed force for Barry and how he gained green then turned blue lightning.
the flashpoint that Cisco vibed to was a different flashpoint an alternate one
Flashpoint Barry makes sense. He didn't have Iris or Joe or Cisco so none of those matter to him, but he had both of his parents until the original timeline Barry became him, causing him to no longer have them. Then, before giving Flashpoint Barry control of his life back, he made it so that the timeline didn't exist, thereby ripping away from Flashpoint Barry everything he loved. Which also makes sense why he wanted everyone to be back as they were in Flashpoint before those lives were taken from those people, too.
does anybody thinks that if savitar is from another timeline he wouldn't know exactly all the events that barry from this timeline will do
I found out why This flashpoint does not appear to the Legends it's because Barry invented the very machine they're using for detecting changes. In other words Savitar like I said messed with the machine for timeline altering alerts
Thank you nice video,and they are the same person so!!!!!
what is the name of the song at the end of all of your videos?
Maybe he's from flash point or the reality reverse flash created with the spear of destiny or maybe even the timeline where vandal savage takes over in the future. I'd like to see this be a Barry from the legends reverse flash timeline maybe after getting the spear reverse flash kept Barry alive and tortured him and killed his love ones and maybe even driven him insane then let him escape or he escaped found the philosophers stone became crazy and trapped himself in the speed force by accident fighting reverse flash then flashpoint freed him but he saw a worse future then what he saw and the only way to save the world is if he becomes savitar and gains that power earlier and savitars real goal is to creat himself earlier and better.
My theory : reverse flash was supposed to kill original barry who was sent by savitar but , instead of barry he killed his mom that let original barry become the flash in 2020 instead of 2014 by the particles , so barry decided to create flash point to save his mother but it created an alternate time line which was weird.. so barry fixed flash point and he got back to his original time line where he became the flash and everything was weird which happened and barry didn’t erase the previous flash point universe.. so it made a time remnant which has gone crazy and came to the original universe and tried to kill iris
The time remnant that died in season 2 finale? Or the one of them that Future Barry referenced
"He kills most of them"
Though that line stood out a bit.
are the scars anything to with with the whole "missing flash" thing that eobard used to always look at in season 1? Meaning hes from then
The video is good and you make some good points but remember they said savitar was the first person to get speed if flashpoint flash got his speed in 2020 then that would make him not the first
What I think is that Barry replaced jay Garrick in the speed force and he stayed there for a long time and that is probably why savitar said from Julian that he trapped him there -I mean who knows
Savitar has to be a version of this Barry as he has lived all this so far
I wonder if its not just Barry from another timeline but from another universe? In the Forever Evil story arch the crime syndicate knew information vital to taking down the Justice League. So could this be Johnny Quick, who lived a mirror version of this event in his universe?
its the barry from flashpoint mix with the future flash thats why he have barry memories and the flashpoint is destroyed soo he seek revenge to barry and he can remember his memories from the flaspoint when he got his powers when he hold the gem thingi
Just an opinion what if the time reminamt who was supposingly suppose to be dead is actually the original copy of Barry? Who got trap in the speed force? And the time reminant is the one who is living Barry's life? By running back in time to save his mother he created flash point and allowing the original Barry who was trap in the speed force escape to the future?...... Just a thought
Yeah so I had similar thoughts to the second theory because eobard thawne said that if it wasn't for Barry he never would of got his powers(whether or not that's saviar or the flash???????) but maybe thawne was trying to stop Barry originally so he didn't become savitar before he couldn't run through time and instead made a time line were Barry didn't become savitar but then the flashpoint happened and corrected the timeline but as you said have no emotional attachment to iris so there's no problem killing her
The Flash Is Getting Good
Maybe its the Barry Allen that 2017 Barry saw in the future. That newspaper that's in the time fault says that The Flash goes missing during a crisis. The date of that paper is April 25th. When Barry goes to the future in the episode Once And The Future Flash the date in the paper is sometime in February I believe. So maybe something happens between the time from February to April when he gets Team Flash back together again and might lose them all which would tear him apart. Also like someone mentioned earlier that any other version of Barry Allen other than the one we're watching now would have had to actually be there to tell Caitlin exactly what Barry would say in the episode I Know Who You Are and that Cisco was up in the rafters. I dont know what's going on but I love seeing everyone's theories and love the show.
The part where u said he never loved iris in flashpoint so he didnt mind killing her off made sense to me
hell of a theory
I thought it was pretty apparent he was from the same timeline as Barry. He literally is Barry. That's why any new memory Barry makes, savitar will have. He also lived through the same things Barry is now. He's clearly from the same timeline.
What if this is Barry's time remnant back from season 2. The one who helped Flash defeat Zoom. It could explain why his face is damaged since he disintegrated when protecting the multiverse. It could also explain why he's angry at current Barry Allen because he was the one who had to sacrifice himself. This is just a theory with some plot holes but it's an interesting thought.
i like your theory
I think a cool twist would be for Barry to be trapped in the Speed Force becoming Savitar and for Savitar to take over as Barry.
SAVITAR: Flash, you took everything from me, You trapped me inside the speedforce.. I'll take away your love of life and make you miserable..
BARRY: No,what're you talking about.. You killed the love of my life..that's why I will trap you inside the speedforce and make you suffer for eternity..!!
ME: WHAT THE FUCK ..!! (Dead)
I have a feeling that Barry's eventually gonna pull an Eddie and kill himself at the moment just before Iris dies, causing another breach and Wally takes over in the beginning of Season 4, then it's revealed that Barry becomes trapped in the speedforce where he sees Jay again and the two somehow make their way back
barry and savitar must be from the same timeline as he said to savitar he has "lived it" but i think a paradox may happen, barry turns into savitar because he sees savitar killing iris, inturn creating way for savitar to be created. but what happens if barry stops it? does that mean somehow savitar will still exist? if savitar was trapped in the speedforced for eternity doesnt that mean that he is always there, even after his escape. the most confusing idea ever.
future barry (savitar) looks really badass
I didn't realise until now, but Savitars' disfigured face makes him look like a Freddy Krueger wannabe lol.
maybe Savitar is Barry from the future in season 1.. the one that fight with Reverse Flash.. but in season 3, when Barry save his mom, it happen after future Barry save little Barry and took him out.. when future Barry enter the speed force to go back to his time, he realize everything is change and he can't get out from the speed force since present Barry changed the time line..
Funny thing to me is that I see a parallel from the Infamous game- Kessler/Cole. Kessler was from a different timeline and created a new timeline by going back to the past. Granted, his motives were noble but the means in which he wanted to "instruct" Cole were pretty despicable. Thinking of the situation on the Flash like Infamous makes me believe Flashpoint is to blame for Savitar's arrival. Saviatar isn't trying to ensure his existence, he already exists. Maybe Savitar is trying to somehow get his timeline back since in that timeline he has his mom back and can get with Iris. He probably needs Barry to make Flashpoint the permanent timeline and wants Barry to lose everything so he has no reason to keep the timeline the way it is anway. I don't know, maybe I am way off base here.
I didn't watch the video yet but I think it's 2024 Barry (the one told season 1 Barry not to interfere in his mother's death). I think he got stuck in the speed force because of Flashpoint and got "released" when season 3 Barry went back in time again and let Reverse Flash kill his mother
Savitar might indeed be a product of the Flashpoint. Imagine its effect rippling through every timeline up to Future Barry Allen's. Maybe in that timeline everything got so fucked up that Savitar Barry tried to investigate its root cause and found it to be his past version's fault. And thus, revenge.
I hate and love you at the same time. I was like yes I'm the only one with the flashpoint theory and even went around talking about it now I'm like nooooo someone else thought of the same thing
This seams exactly like the comic storyline a flash out of time.
savatar is the time remnant from the end of the zoom battle
I have a theory. Savitar is Barry from flashpoint. But savitar is future Barry from flashpoint. In flashpoint, Barry founded the philosopher stone from flashpoint and became a speedster like the timeline of the flash that we are watching now. He rembers all of it because the philosopher stone gave him the memory. The flashpoint barry hated the timeline that we are watching flash barry because he took away flashpoint. Flashpoint barry most likely got faster from a tachyon echancement from wells from flashpoint. and he got to the future and get the material he need for the suit. Flashpoint barry killed iris so he takes everything away from flash timeline barry.
Of course like any other theory it has holes/unanswered questions.
1: How did flashpoint barry got to the flash barry's timeline?
So if savitar is from a different timeline, but kills iris west in the timeline we're following, that means all timelines where barry is the flash can be savitar?
He's gotta be from the current timeline- I'm pretty sure they were fairly clear about that. If he was from a different timeline or universe, he wouldn't share the same memories as current Barry. So, he is just from the future.
Remember in season 1 when Barry was traveling throughout time and saw himself in jail? That's where I'm speculating this Barry came from.
but he's lived through everything that our barry has lived.. so, same timeline.!
also, one question.. jay says that savitar has conquered other earths.. so why would future barry conquer other worlds if his main intention was to make our barry suffer?