Cloud Key Gen2 Plus
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- čas přidán 16. 01. 2019
- A look at Ubiquiti's new Cloud Key Gen2 Plus.
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Pretty stoked that you put this out. I bought mine earlier this week and sold off my NVR and Cloud Key Gen1 within hours and made enough to buy it. My only splurge was buying the 19" rack kit for $120 with shipping. I'm excited to see this thing put to work. Thanks for the demo! I'm looking forward to more from you about it.
I bought into UniFi, because of your videos.
I am now eagerly waiting for your Protect video.
I want to see how to enable notifications for movement and more of the advanced features. Also, tips and tricks with the video feed and quality-- where's the point of diminishing returns (storage to quality etc.)?
I purchased one a few weeks back and really like it. Setting up a small NVR system with 8 G3 Flex cameras for my liquor store. Really like running the cloud key and the cameras with poe as well. Thanks for all your videos!
it's been running perfectly fine for me for the past 2 years. loved this the plus version and the camera works great.
Just installed mine last week. This is a HUGE improvement in performance and stability already for both the cloud key network management and video.
I had similar issues upgrading my first gen keys. However I uploaded the file manually instead of SSH. I have 8 Gen 2 keys waiting for me at the office. Can't wait to deploy them tomorrow!
Man! You are doing a wonderful job with your videos! Keep Killing it!
Just a note about the POE vs USB-C thing I think you would like...
The Quick Charge "Capable" adapter you have has an automatic switcher built in. It will provide a basic charge current at first and then switch to the "Quick Charge" if it detects a higher draw of power than its currently providing.
I'm guessing that the Cloud Key is detecting the lower power source before the wall adapter has a chance to increase the amperage... causing the Cloud Key to shut down.
I imagine that the power source the device starts on is "Primary" and the other is a "Fail Over" that becomes the new Primary. So power will be drawn from the Primary until it's unavailable, and at that point, it will try to get power from the other.
This would mean that plugging the USB-C in first made the wall adapter change into the higher Amp setting, so when unplugging the RJ-45, it was already on the higher Amp mode.
A better USB-C wall adapter for this application would be a USB-C charger meant to power a laptop, that type of charger will always be providing a power source capable of the high Amperage the Cloud Key needs.
(The phone adapter is designed in a way that it won't waste power, saving you money in the long run.)
To eject the hard drive without a screwdriver, first push on the front panel (the front of where the hard drive is situated), this will take a bit of tension off the slider on the base, then the slider can be moved with your finger.
I'll try that!
It kills me to see you kill that beautiful device with a screwdriver, just sqweeze gently and toggle switch....
This channel is hands down the best place for unifi information. Thank you!
I'm sure Willie Howe may argue that :) 2 of the best Unifi CZcams Channels for sure
Hi Chris,
A follow up video would be great - I'd love to learn the best practice in terms of configuring this device, particularly with PoE AP's and cameras - run on separate VLAN's?
I've been running the Cloudkey Gen2 Plus since they first became available in the early access store. I'm LOVING it. I have had no crashes, and everything swapped over from my old unifi controller seamlessly. Protect is leaps and bounds better than it was when it first came out, and it will only get better. Looking forward to seeing where they go with Protect.
How does that move from an old cloudkey work? Just plug the new one into the network, basic setup and then there's some migrate option? I have a small Unifi setup at home, but I'm not too well versed in the more advanced Ubiquiti stuff.
@@hillie47 You will need to export your old configuration and import it into the new cloud key. But, you should make sure that your current Unifi controller is on the latest version before exporting.
Ok, thank you. That sounds pretty straightforward.
Always love your videos! Thanks for the review!
Thanks for the video Chris, I had been hoping you were going to review this product. I would have liked to have seen how you imported your existing site.
You make the information very simple to understand. I love this channel. Keep up the great work!
Just ordered one. Was looking for a simple solution to use unifi cameras and didn't look to hard into these. Thanks for the info.
My first ever experience with Ubiquiti gear (last week) was trying to adopt their 8port 150w switch and I ran into a similar automatic firmware upgrade problem. It took me a few hours to figure it all out since I was still new to their systems/concepts. Basically I could not adopt the switch because the firmware was out of date and I could not update the firmware from the controller. Therefore I went down a rabbit hole of figuring out how to ssh into the switch (after googling for default creds) and forcing a command line firmware upgrade. After that adoption happened smoothly. Pretty rough first customer experience but ever since it’s pretty slick.
As of you posting this video, the rack mount is available in the regular store. It is not Early Access anymore.
Thanks for the info!
It’s just a bit pricy
Rack mount is nice option
Great Info! I am going to put this in one of my offices as a test platform. If it works well I will replace the rest of the offices with this system.
Great video, thanks. I laughed out loud when you said "I'll be right back after I import my sites". Then you return and say "it's been a few days because I had some trouble..." Been there!
My Cloud Key G2 Plus upgraded to 0.8.10 with no issues at all. I did the upgrade from the maintenance tab in the controller software.
Looking forward to the unifi protect video, moving from an apartment to a house soon and cameras are a must.
Thank you - just what I was waiting for - your unboxing and review of this one. I think I am going to upgrade from the Gen 1 and also get the rack mount. Will look nice in my little DIY home server rack. I'll upgrade that hard drive to a 5TB though - looks like only Seagate makes those although I am a WD fanboy. This will be nice because my NVR is on my media server right now so I can lessen it's load. POE is nice to keep cable clutter down too. Looks like a winner for Ubiquiti!
Once you go Ubiquiti you never go back to consumer-grade stuff again.
😂 Agree, even though previously i only use 2x AC Lite for my home , when i deploy wifi at my store i prefer to use ubiquiti even though it is so expensive compared to another access point 😅
@@EdiUtomoPutra Ubiquiti is not expensive when comparing to other comparative alternatives in the same space.
Ubiquiti is consumer grade
@@cheekybastard99 I wouldn't say consume. I'd say prosumer? If that's a word. Above consumer but below enterprise.
EverythingEvo what exactly makes ubiquit not enterprise
I ordered the Cloud Key Gen2 Plus as soon as it was available in the Early Access Store and have been very happy with performance so far. I’ve already deployed 2 of these to customers (13 & 4 cameras respectively) mainly for UniFi Protect functionality since I feel it’s more in line with consumer security cameras without having your footage store in the cloud. Being able to scrub through video on a single camera using the iOS app is brilliant. With every update to UniFi Protect it has gotten much better to have near feature parity with UniFi Video. Now that the UVC G4 camera is in the early access store I’m curious if you will have more features available pairing this with UniFi Protect vs. UniFi Video. I know many people have complained that UniFi Protect is only available using the Cloud Key Gen2 Plus but it’s a relatively small price to pay. My customers love it & are already looking to add more cameras due to low cost & quality compared to other vendors. Thanks Chris for making another quality Ubiquiti video, looking forward to watching your video focused on the UniFi Protect platform.
I just updated from 0.8.6 to 0.8.10 using the auto update and it works just fine. I'll be watching for your Unifi Protect video.
When using UniFi protect can you link outside storage like a nas
Is it possible to backup the recordings from the hdd to like a NAS so you can have more recordings saved?
Awesome video! Question can you configure different IP addresses for the video protect ?
With the manual firmware update, you don't have to use the URL or SSH methods. You can (first) download the firmware to your local computer and then upgrade using the local image via the interface.
Very informative video yet again. Cant wait for the next one.
Thanks a LOT for the video, especially for the detailed power "options" test... really cool!
Great video! I now have a Cloud Key Gen2 Plus. If I can't pull a cable to my Edge Switch to a Ubiquiti video camera, how can I get the signal wirelessly to my Edge switch?
Thanks for video, ;ove your channel.. Would like to know if you have insight into how the Unifi NVR will/ will not integrate with Protect
Top quality work Chris. Super job, thank you. I will be purchasing with your links.
Can you make a video on how to set up the micro cameras with the gen 2 cloud key
I've been waiting for a video on this. 👌🏻
This is a nice review Chris, and I'm looking forward to the unifi protect movie. I'm curious what the difference is exactly with unifi Video 3. Also keep in mind to not rotate the cloudkey upside-down when it is turned on! The hard drive for the recordings is an old mechanical hard drive, and they don't like rotating while it's running 😉
Great info, thank you. Regarding cloud management:
Can you add it to your own account and still let the customer get access to it through the cloud without having to give away your own login? Kinda like the way you can have a Google analytics account accessed by allowing someone else to manage it as well..
Awesome and very detailed videos. I am just planning on getting a PoE switch and 3 APs for my home setup so do I really need the cloud key? Trying to figure out if the cloud key is a requirement or a nice-to-have. Thanks a bunch.
Can't wait for the UniFi Protect video. Thanks Chris for all the amazing videos.
I had issues too with automatic update of Unifi Cloud Key G2 (not the Plus-model) from 0.7.4 to 0.8.10. It started downloading the update but froze to "Downloading file 100%" state. I logged in to the cloud key using SSH and killed the wget-process (while Downloading 100% was on screen) and then the automatic upgrade continued properly to actually install the downloaded upgrade.
I got it running for one month now. It is a great unit.
Very cool . . Take a look at the rackmount as well
$100 to rack mount it... no thanks.
Chris, another great video. If you push in slightly on the HD from the front, then you can easily unlock the HD latch. Worked for me. Thanks.
Hi there. Would you mind doing a video on Let's encypt certs for the UniFi controller on this unit? There are many guides, but are largely outdated (based on previous versions of the controller). I have my own domain and have my CKg2+ behind NAT. Would be greatly appreciated. Love your videos!
Hi, let me ask you something... Do you know if the old uvc-dome camera model is compatible with this cloud key? And BTW, great video, as usual. =)
unifi protect questions: notifications on movement to phone, text message, email. cloud access to footage. offloading footage to a glacier backup (automated) love the videos. keep it up!
Good suggestions - thanks!
when you do the unifi protect may be talk a bit about the difference between the nvr system and the new system via the CK gen2 + hard drive. Will it replace the old system or can they work together
i have been using one for about 3 months now and i put a 5tb hdd inside it....... LOVE it
I had the same issue with the update. I was able to update automatically through the Unifi interface though
Got this in today. Set up was a breeze. I updated the cloud key and installed SDN. I am waiting for some cameras to set up Unifi Protect. BTW, I installed a Seagate 5TB hard drive that I bought from Costco on sale for $100. It's a USB drive but you can take it out of the case and put it in the cloud key.
Can you do a comparison of Gen 1 vs Gen 2?
Great video. Is the device fanless? Is it suitable for a loft or attic installation where there could be some moisture in the air? Thanks
Hey Chris. The affiliate link for Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus that goes to Ubiquiti store is giving me a 404 error. I bought a basic Unifi setup including the Colud Key Gen 2 plus using various affiliate links. Hope you got the commissions. Looking forward to using and learning this gear. Great job on the channel.
Chris, thank you for your video's! Quick question, Is there a way to mange cameras at two physically different locations on different networks with one Cloud Key Gen2 protect. Or atleast can I see both locations remotely with one unifi account even if I have to buy two CK gen 2's? Thanks so much in advance with my newbie question.
Hello,
Thanks for a great video.
Curious before buying, do I need a UniFi Security Gateway Pro to be able to use the Cloud Key Gen 2+ or does it work as you shown without the gateway? (As shown in the Cloud Key Gen 2+ datasheet)
I.e. Can I plug in my cameras and this Cloud Key Gen 2+ into my POE switch and make it work?
Also, do you know if I can add non-UniFi cameras into this?
Thank you kindly for taking the time to answer.
It is done. Bought 24 port poe switch, usg, 2 AP pros, waiting on the cloud key for now as they were out of stock when i bought a bit ago will also be buying several cameras once it is back in stock reasonbly $$. Will be using software for this in the meantime. Been running general cable cat 6 plenum all weekend. Hope you dont mind a question or 2 if the need arises. Thanks again for the great videos.
Hey Chris, Protect 1.5.0 is out (just enable auto updates for Protect and it will grab it), that version fixed a bunch of issues with the live view. I have Protect deployed at 1 site with 5 cameras and 5Tb HDD, it used about 2.5Tb in 1 month time frame. I do like Protect so far. Things I did not like: compared to Hikvision system it lacks line crossing detection and Protect has to use Ubnt's e-mail server to send motion notifications. With Hikvision I send e-mail to my local server that grabs image out of e-mail and runs it thru Amazon Rekognition to see if there are people or vehicles on the photo and only then send an e-mail.
P.S. 0.8.10 update worked fine for me, I had to click the upgrade 2 times though, first time it said something about failure to download.
P.P.S. Did you try a micro SD slot on Cloud Key yet?
Already upgraded after I edited that video.
So you can use the Hikvision IP cameras with this? maybe not all the features but they so work?
Hey there! Thanks for sharing your experience with the Cloud Key Gen2 Plus. It's great to hear that you're excited about it and that it's working well for you. I'm considering getting one myself, so it's good to know that it performs well with UniFi Protect. Do you have any specific features or aspects of it that you really love, or any tips for setting it up effectively? Looking forward to hearing more about your experience with it. Cheers!
I installed a UniFi system in my 3,200 square foot home after watching many of your videos (yes, I used your affiliate links). I agree with the others, the WiFi performance is outstanding and I'll never go back to consumer grade WiFi again.
My system consists of an USG, 2 AC-Pros, a CloudKey (Gen1) and a Cisco 26 port PoE switch (had this before the UniFi). As much as I love the UniFi access points, I completely loath the Gen 1 CloudKey. It is constantly locking up and in need of reboot because it thinks the SD card has been removed when it hasn't. I'm guessing this is part of why that battery was added. It's nice to see that they've made that improvement. I'll wait to see how the new generation cloud keys work. If they have in fact solved that problem, I will likely upgrade.
Chris, Which is a better solution for capturing video from your security camera, the NVR or the UCK gen 2+? The UCK appears to be less expensive with the 1TB drive. Does the NVR require a separate cloud key?
Absolut fantastisc video. Thanks a lot!
Ubiquiti equipment is great when it works. Other times it’s a headache best to sometimes just reset everything to factory defaults and start over which sucks in production.
i had problem runing the latest update on some APs and hade to run the installation without HTTPS and instead HTTP only. after that all worked fine.
Hey Chris. When setting up the Gen2 Plus, did you use the same name and IP address for both the SDN and Protect controllers? Does that affect how other users would login to see camera footage from their phone app? Hopefully that question makes sense... thx!
I've seen conflicting information about using 'older' ubnt cameras on this device. Has anyone tested the UVC-Dome cameras on Unifi Protect?
I bought on UBNT store. Had some issues with site move from my gen1 CK, even though on same version I basically had issues that required a reset of everything and then restoring from backup. I did add new POE and 48 port switches. It came up great after that and stabilized over a few more days. Gen2 is useful due to the battery backup. The plus was the only available one at the time, I just wish they had the rackmount available as I'm not in the US that much these days. 5TB upgrade would be good. Thanks for the video!
I have heard that the rack mount accessory is now readily available.
@@CrosstalkSolutions Thanks Chris, let me check that out.
Definitely would love a walk through of users. Currently, it appears that there are only two user permission levels, which is not ideal at all. Looking for solutions to allow someone to view feeds, but not control any administrative options. For instance, receptionist being able to see cam feeds, but not change settings.
Chris, your videos are awesome!! Can you add in this one though that you have to go into your Unifi Switch and change the Cloud to 48 volts and show how that's accomplished?? Thanks
Thanks for this informed video 👍, for your Unifi protect video I want to know if CKG2P is compatible with non Unifi cameras.
someone asked a similar question earlier: "Unifi Protect still only uses unifi cameras?" and cross talk solutions answered: "Yes - that is correct." Sorta sucks if you have a bunch of third party camera already!
Great vids, learning a lot. I'm a little confused as to what devices I actually need to get off-site access to the unify controller though. I currently have a 8-150 unifi switch fed by our fibre router, then various APs. To access this off-site, do I need a cloud key, or a USG, or both? Eventually I would like to run 2 sites, as in, two different locations, from the same portal: For example to run cameras on both locations, but view from one portal: Would that mean a cloud key for each suite? (and or a USG, or both, for each site) - and can that be all controlled from one Unifi controller (cloud)?
I feel like putting those camera stickers on the outside of your house would warrant even more temptation for someone to burglarize your home considering how damn expensive their camera setup is😂
you are Awesome Chris, what is the link for 5t hard drive to upgrade my UKC g2 plus?
Thanks for this specific video as well as your previous Unifi 'instructional' videos. In your future Unifi Protect focused production, I respectfully request you perform a comparison of the number of video cameras offered by Unifi as to their intended application(s). As I review these offerings, I can not comprehend which cameras are best used in what locations.
Thank you...
I am deciding between the Unifi Protect system vs Ring camera system. I'm not sure if you have seen Ring cameras. I would like some discussions between the systems. How long does it take to view the cameras? How well does the iOS app work? Does alerting function work well? What is ease of use when remote? Are there options to view on computer (I have a Mac) and/or TV? Are there other IoT integrations (Alexa, IFTTT, Homekit, etc.)?
Love to know if it will work with standard IP Cams like HIks or Foscom
Nice Video as always...
Can this device be used to record and view unifi cameras?
I'm very late to this comment.
You can manage protect cameras using this device
I have had a CKG2+ since the beta store and it has been great. I think the reason they are only charging $20 more for the plus is because once you add a camera to it you get addicted. I am up to 4 cameras right now with plans to add many more. Which is also bad because I need to buy more ubiquiti switches to handle the extra cameras but that is okay with me. The old unifi video platform device they sold was overpriced I feel like and this is a great new product. Protect isnt perfect but going from the original release it is far more stable and motion alerts are getting better with every update. Just with they had an official apple tv app but using a rtsp streaming app is ok with me.
Great content, do you have any setup for the cloud key gen 2 in the newest controller as the network management tool is different today as it was in this video and i am trying to sort through setup issues with the cloud key gen 2 and 2 uP6 APS, Thanks
Chris, your video made me upgrade my local running controller to a cloudkey gen2+, but i cannot get the external (worldwide) access working. Can you show us the way how to do this? Do you have a video of this?
Thanks for the video. My Cloud Key Gen2 Plus runs quite hot (CPU temp of 58 degrees at this moment; typical range is between 50 and 58), but the Performance screen still rates the temp as "Good". I am NOT using UniFi Protect at this time (no cameras yet), and I have NOT upgraded the HDD. Should I be concerned? What kind of temps are others seeing?
Hi Chris, Screwdriver not needed to open HD tray. Just push in HD tray while sliding the lock release.
Your videos are great
Great videos! You have helped me many times now. Keep up the good work.
Great video.
I have this product, had to wait so long to get it, because of shipping to EU was messed up.
I managed to migrate everything from the old cloud key to this one without any problem. Except when i removed the SD card from the old CK, and plugged it in to the new one, for some ODD reason the DPI feature got bugged and the database got corrupted, so I will have to do a repair on the DB when I have the time for it.
The unifi protect is the reason I bought the device. It is amazing for this price point that features / storage / hardware / software combo they are giving.
Ubiquiti is doing an amazing job with disrupting the market with their gear. I love them.
Great feedback - thanks!
@@CrosstalkSolutions Btw You are one of the reasons I bought Ubiquiti products. You are an awesome teacher and an overall humble guy. I hope your channel grows big, you deserve it!
With the unifi protect, do you have to use the internal storage or can it be configured to use an external storage device?
Good video as always. Question with the cloud key gen 2 plus if you dont have Camaras is there any other use case for hard drive in drive. Thanks
I don’t believe so, no.
Have done around 10 of these now and just in the last 2 months the changes to the software UI have been great. I just did an upgrade to change out the HD and the instructions are not up to date.
Replacing HD
- upgrade to latest software
- export the SDN config (you do not need the protect but I made a backup)
- power down
- replace HD
- boot up
- protect will work but SDN requires an import of the config
Moving from an old Cloud Key and old NVR is a little more complicated
- Backup both devices
- unplug both devices
- plug in new Gen 2
- login and configure the CKG2
- upgrade CKG2
- Setup the Protect and SDN using the backups
- you will need to do all the zone and notifications settings again in the new Protect software. Make sure you verify all the settings because only the cameras will be imported but almost no settings and no recordings
Great feedback - thanks Luc!
Love the Gen2+, love your videos. Thanks for posting them. I probably set up my network in the wrong order: my network is running fine and I have the Gen2+ controlling it but when I log into the unifi.ubnt site, my Gen2+ is not listed. If I discover the key, it says "managed by other device," and the LED never turns blue. I'm guessing it's managed by itself(?). I'd love some thoughts on how to adopt the Gen2+ into the whole of my topology on the cloud site. It's low-priority, I guess, since everything is up and running except the one blue LED on the Gen2+... Thanks.
I'm having the same problem here. Still working on it......
thanks for video chris.
Great review, does it have UDM features, like blocking apps to users? like dream machine pro or SE?
I know this is an old video, but I wanted to share that I have had tons of problems with Quick Charge (on my phone) when using cheap USB-C Cables. I have switched to cables that are marked "5A cable", and after that I don't have strange QC problems anymore. I suspect this can be the case with the cloud key as well.
I hope to get my hands on one ASAP...but they seem to be impossible to get here in Germany at the moment. Anyway, great video and great channel!
With the "Enable Cloud Access" function, could you enable it on an ad-hoc basis? So for example have cloud access disabled whilst you are at home but then easily enable it for access whilst you are at work or on holiday perhaps?
Love your show! I've recently acquired a cloud key gen 2 plus and a rack mount accessory.. I've been struggling with getting traffic to appear on the LCD. It's always at zero. It is plugged into a US-24 switch, have 1 unifi AC LR access point, no cameras, and still shows 0 traffic moving up or down stream. Do I need to use a unifi gateway ??
Hey Chris. about that HDD release mechanism. It seems the HDD caddy is heavily spring-loaded. Have you tried pushing in on the HDD tray, and then releasing it? Might make it easier to release.
I’ll try that...
Hey, does anybody have any updated tutorial or video installing UNMS on a Cloud Key Gen 2 Plus?
Sounds like a great concept. It does seem to have some quarks and bugs to work through. Is it advisable to wait on deploying these until some of these issues are fixed? Or do you think its worth getting an early start?
The only bugs/quarks that I found were in UniFi Protect - the UniFi SDN and the CloudKey itself seemed OK (except for that one firmware update). The manual SSH update worked fine, and others have reported to me that their update was fine when they did the automated GUI method.
Can you do unifi protect with the new g4 cameras?
Could you still SSH in to this and be able to save recordings to an external HDD like you could with the NVR? And great video on that too, It helped with my current setup. Also be good if you could do a tutorial of how to fix the bullet G3 Cameras once they are passed their 12 months. I.e Opening up and replacing stuff.
Hi Chris,
It's interesting to see after you updated the FW on the CK the eMMC storage "shrinked" down from 25.49 GB to 18.70 GB. What could be the reason? Thanks.
Gerhard Tánczos That’s shoeing the available space, the updated firmware must have been a larger file size.