The worst fret job I've seen Fender! The Meteora - Great Guitar or is it just a pizza?

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  • čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
  • Welcome to Crimson Guitars HQ czcams.com/users/CrimsonC... and Ben's new set up in the Luthier's studio. In this video Ben takes a bit of a road trip to pick up a dream guitar - a Fender Meteora from Guitarbitz in Bath. www.guitarbitz.com/
    Will this guitar stand up to a closer scrutiny or is it just a fun name for a new Pizza?
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    0:00 Introduction & road trip
    3:40 A closer look at the Fender Meteora
    7:02 Removing the strings and checking the neck
    9:43 Is this the worst Fret job Ben's ever seen?
    11:52 What's going on here?
    12:07 A Fret Level, Crown & Polish
    14:20 Ben takes a look under the scratch plate
    18:20 A quick repair and let's put her back together
    22:37 A quick demo with Josh & Conclusion
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Komentáře • 428

  • @ggrows3601
    @ggrows3601 Před rokem +164

    I love the idea of a luthier buying a guitar off the rack and checking it out. Hopefully we see more of these, I always enjoy and respect your prespective on things guitar related.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  Před rokem +16

      Thank you, I appreciate this very much. We will certainly keep this sort of thing coming.. it is enlightening indeed and great fun to do.. though I truly was expecting to find zero faults from this brand at this price point..

    • @SionynJones
      @SionynJones Před rokem +2

      Yeah it's a cool idea.

    • @philiphurdwell3443
      @philiphurdwell3443 Před rokem +1

      Great comment. 👍

    • @kazzTrismus
      @kazzTrismus Před rokem

      @@CrimsonCustomGuitars $1800 canadian taxes included

    • @IPGuitars
      @IPGuitars Před rokem

      I did this with a PRS I bought earlier in the year. Only the second guitar I have bought off the shelf and was fun to take a deep dive into the details now that I know what to look for.

  • @danielmarno5354
    @danielmarno5354 Před rokem +53

    To watch a master luthier buy (what is essentially) a brand new guitar and do a deep-dive look, is probably the best review process we could possibly ask for. You really get a good idea of what the quality of the instrument is and what to look out for.
    To Ben - I salute you for doing videos like this.
    If at all possible, it would be fantastic to see you do a tear-down of the Indonesian made Yamaha Revstar Standard (P90 or humbucker version).
    So far, I have only seen reviews from guitarist-CZcamsrs. Therefore, a luthier´s perspective would be of tremendous help, and no doubt very insightful.
    All the best to you and the Crimson team!

  • @LarsUelf
    @LarsUelf Před rokem +81

    This was honestly quite shocking. The poor frets, the loose wire, the bumpy pickguard...
    Still one of my favorite guitar shapes currently on the market

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  Před rokem +37

      I couldn't agree more, we are making a template set so that I can make myself a version at a proper quality level..

    • @kbrodie78
      @kbrodie78 Před rokem +2

      And then there’s this clown…..☝️Clearly the person with the fake telegram account is a donut. Because apparently Ben has given away a prize to himself….

    • @life_balance_dave8679
      @life_balance_dave8679 Před rokem +1

      @@CrimsonCustomGuitars consider me ordering one 😊

    • @willbarnz6960
      @willbarnz6960 Před rokem +1

      Fender seems to be lacking in QA... At that price point especially... Then again, the QA of the brands they own seems to have suffered as well. (Jackson is a good example... Can't speak for Charvel.)
      Bought a Jackson bass that retailed for about $450 USD (now up to $500 USD)... Yeah, not exactly their top of the line... Fret ends have been noted by quite a few as being tear up your hands bad. Mine are definitely rough... But not quite that bad.

    • @LarsUelf
      @LarsUelf Před rokem +3

      @@willbarnz6960 It is crazy how some brands can get things like that right, at a way lower price point. My G&L L-2000 Tribute was ~600€ and there was nothing to complain about when I got it. No sharp frets, no weird electronic issues, no obvious flaws ... Now, 10 years later, the frets do look like they need to be replaced. But given how much I play that thing, it only makes sense.

  • @TrickyGomez
    @TrickyGomez Před rokem +18

    I have this same model. The frets were mostly covered in finish . After clean and polish it played very nicely. no need for leveling as that was good to go (Got lucky there) and just love the fretboard rolled edges. I play this guitar daily now for several months since buying it and it keeps getting better. Stripped it down last string change and am impressed with the product even more. I love this guitar, it sounds beautiful and for me it's a keeper.

  • @markpedersen8689
    @markpedersen8689 Před rokem +1

    Wow amazed at some of the quality of work. Always expect a new guitar to be in playable condition from the shop 😮. Great video as always love these tear downs ❤

  • @cx1uk
    @cx1uk Před rokem +12

    Hi Ben.
    The round hole under the scratch plate is a deliberate device used to indicate the guitar originated in Mexico. It’s designed to stop people passing off Mexican guitars as US ones. 👍🏻

    • @wilhelmtheconquerer6214
      @wilhelmtheconquerer6214 Před rokem +5

      It's also an index hole for the CNC-machine

    • @asnormal1362
      @asnormal1362 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @cs1uk, can you tell us how you know this? It would be great if you gave a reference (so we know it's not just a shared supposition that gets perpetuated}. Ditto @wilhelmtheconquerer6214. Thx!

  • @ebbeollman1198
    @ebbeollman1198 Před rokem +14

    I bought a guitar today for less than 1/10 of a thousand pounds which also needs a bit of light fretwork, at the Salvation Army thrift store. For that price, I would expect a flawless instrument.

    • @joeking433
      @joeking433 Před rokem

      I've bought some Monoprice guitars from Amazon for less than $100 and they had better build quality than this guitar.

  • @martinlewis2036
    @martinlewis2036 Před rokem +2

    Love this that youre doing...digging into the nuts of these guitars. Cant think of a more trustworthy source of info. And the snappy comments throughout are priceless. The meteora speaks to me. Has a jazzmaster kinda vibe. The ergo shape is to die for.

  • @chrisholcombe2514
    @chrisholcombe2514 Před rokem +8

    Great to see Josh in action again. He is a great teacher, may be you could do short videos featuring some of the other guys to showcase their expertise. Really enjoyed my two week course. One of my favourite holidays ever.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  Před rokem +2

      For sure! And thanks for the feedback. We're really glad that you enjoyed your course.

    • @VAXHeadroom
      @VAXHeadroom Před rokem +1

      @@chrisholcombe2514 That "telegram' account is a spammer - do not interact with them.

  • @rorypotatochip1373
    @rorypotatochip1373 Před rokem +2

    Excellent overview of the Meteora. QC is a bit of a concern, although I’m still keen on owning one, but will pay particular attention to the fret work.
    I loved seeing the detail of your work, well done. Just picked up a J Mascis Tele which I adore. The Meteora is on my short list now
    You’ve earned a new sub, and you strangely remind of Bill Bailey, he’s a badass.

  • @oldmanzen6682
    @oldmanzen6682 Před rokem +4

    Picked up a few tickets for the raffle. It’s a gorgeous guitar, and with the work you’ve done, it’ll be a hell of a fun player.

  • @aurimasgalvelis
    @aurimasgalvelis Před rokem

    Thanks for the great video guys!
    I've just bought one few days ago. I mean It was not love from the first sight, but I'm getting there, I think. Already had an issue with huge buzzing when touching the bridge pickup with my finger. Fixed it, it was a loose wire, poor grounding stuff. Now after watching this video, I am definitely going to give it to my local luthier, to finish the guitar... I mean QC is not perfect, but for the price it could be much much better. Now it's like I've bought a guitar that is almost finished. Not nice. But I feel that after everything is done I will fall in love with it.

  • @sunn_bass
    @sunn_bass Před rokem +1

    Great video as always. I have an MIM Player Mustang bass that i like but has a few QC issues, nothing major but needed a fret polishing, nut slots deepened and a few other tweaks.
    I have 3 Squiers all made in China: an Affinity Jaguar Bass and 2 paranormal 6 strings.
    I honestly think the Squiers after a setup actually play better wirh pickups being their shortcoming. And I swear that the China made Squiers are equal to or better than either the Cort or Samick Indonesia ones from the ones I've looked at.

  • @DarrenRosePhotography

    New to the channel, and found this really informative. I’ve had a meteora for a couple on months and the frets do need a little work but everything else has been really good with it

  • @paulneeds
    @paulneeds Před rokem +8

    Good to see red speed sharpies being used to mark the frets. It’ll play as fast as hell after this!

  • @danletter9357
    @danletter9357 Před rokem +1

    This is why I learned the basics of set up and fret leveling/ polishing.

  • @mrh2833
    @mrh2833 Před rokem

    I recently bought a Fender Meteora and unfortunately, I also had to add $150 set up on top of the $1150 price tag. The nut was cut too deep, the frets were horrible, and the action was set too high. All in all, my tech was able to fix most of the issues, but in the future I will be adding a new nut and a Vega Tremolo. I love the feel for the neck and the pick ups are really good as well. I love the guitar, but it took a little bit of work to get it up to par.
    Thank you for this review Crimson. I enjoyed it and I concur with your findings. Cheers!

  • @markb3434
    @markb3434 Před rokem

    Love this format , get something new , what does it need . Well done Ben and team 👏

  • @imnotthatguy4765
    @imnotthatguy4765 Před rokem +3

    This has quickly become one of my favorite guitar channels. In great company indeed.

  • @rvaguitars
    @rvaguitars Před rokem

    Ben this new series is so great! Keep it up. Do some more Matsumoku guitars

  • @B00MBATS
    @B00MBATS Před rokem

    Great video... I have to agree with what you've noticed/found. Many of the Fender basses I've looked at our local guitar stores here in Toronto Canada, no matter if they're made in Mexico, or USA have frets that feel like a cheese grater on the edge, and some form of fret buzz in the higher register of the neck. This was not the case years ago with Fenders quality control. I'd be real curious what you'd find if did a tear down of a Custom Shop model???

  • @am2p.
    @am2p. Před rokem

    I like your analysis of this fender. It would be cool if you took a look at some other Asian brands like maybe Ibanez. Specifically their higher end models that aren’t at their “prestige” category. I’ve seen people review their prestige models and their lower entry level models, the it’s a little harder finding good opinions from experienced builders where they review the non-prestige high end models. You might actually already have some videos on this, so I’ll keep searching. I just found your channel and I’m really liking the content. While on that note, I’m off to subscribe right now.

  • @daleturner3507
    @daleturner3507 Před rokem

    Great video. I saw similar problems with the MIM Player Strat HSS I purchased. Definitely would like to see the SG in a deep dive if you get a chance.

  • @chrissolum8323
    @chrissolum8323 Před rokem

    Great video. I checked out a left handed Fender Player Strat a few weeks ago and while I’m only new at playing a guitar, I was shocked at the quality. Frets weren’t particularly good and the nut looked like it’d been cut in the dark. It also just sounded dead - not because of strings or setup, it just had no life. But worst of all was the tone pots don’t work as they are supposed to - basically just on or off with no discernible sweep. I am informed that this is because they cheap out on the pots and just wire right handed pots in reverse. Shocking for what is a $1200 guitar in Australia.

  • @virgaumber6275
    @virgaumber6275 Před rokem

    Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge! Truly informative and enjoyable!

  • @karlrobertosterman
    @karlrobertosterman Před rokem +1

    I went out and purchased a Meteora bass in Opal Spark. I knew i wanted a fretless, but honestly the neck and fretwork is exceptional. I replaced the stock neck with a chinese replacement that I bound in cream plastic. The hardware and electronics are absolutely top notch. This is one of my best sounding basses.

  • @gregjarvis3288
    @gregjarvis3288 Před rokem

    The custard yellow one you bought.........I have just finished one. Vintage vibrato with roller bridge. 3 pickups with 12 position wiring..6 on the switch and doubled up on a push pull with master volume. One off pickguard with all switchgear recessed. Japanese switch cover. Locking tuners.
    It's a beaut!

  • @jakesouth
    @jakesouth Před rokem +1

    I'm pretty sure that was my epiphone SG, or Les Paul as it calls itself. Sold it in Bath a few years back. Really great guitar!

  • @davelewis4215
    @davelewis4215 Před rokem +1

    Ben,
    I Looking forward to a video on the cream triple humbucker SG you also purchased 👍

  • @christiangoodfield5116

    Excellent video. It has really helped me decide on a future purchase, not going to buy one, I intend to sign up for for one of the guitar making courses and make one . Would love to see a video on a Godin A6, or Summit, if you haven’t already.

  • @sladebrannon6917
    @sladebrannon6917 Před 3 měsíci

    The production on this videos is really great. Well done.

  • @JoeySchmidt74
    @JoeySchmidt74 Před rokem

    I bought a Squier Strat in '96 and I still have it. Over the years I have replaced some of the hardware like pots, wires, machine heads and one of the pickups to a hot rail. This guitar has had a lot thrown at it over the years and still plays great. I also locked the trem with a wood block and cotton wool to dampen the springs.
    Recently did a level and crown (using some Crimson gear) and it's playing better than ever. It has a wee 40th Anniversary Fender badge on the back of the headstock and I've had pros play it (while I was doing audio engineering at college) wondering why I don't get into being a guitar tech, but I think their anti Squier snobbery might have been showing!
    Seeing these level of issues befall a £1,000 guitar worries me if I were to have to replace any of my instruments with off the shelf units. It will be a whole lot of fun fixing them up, but I wonder if that time might be better spent playing guitar than playing guitar repair?!

  • @paulketchupwitheverything767

    Would a bit of heat (hot air gun) to the scratch plate help to make it flat again? I'd not noticed the Meteora's arrival in the Fender range. I would probably mistake it for a Jazzmaster at a glance.

  • @sergiopedro4668
    @sergiopedro4668 Před rokem +1

    Good to see Josh in a video. I hope all is well, my friend.

  • @Ralf1erudd
    @Ralf1erudd Před rokem +1

    I was wondering if you were going to find sawdust or shavings in the neck pocket. Something I have found on both a G&L 2000 Legacy bass and a 50 anniversary Squier by Fender P bass. Obviously neither neck was seated properly so I got both at lower than expected prices 🙂

  • @SyrusRayne
    @SyrusRayne Před rokem +2

    Disappointing to see these kinds of problems - I absolutely adore the Meteora shape, I've wanted one since they did the original tele-style setup. Guess I'll just have to enter the raffle.

  • @electronraygun6346
    @electronraygun6346 Před rokem

    This guitar reminds me a little of my Futurama II if Salvador Dali had designed the lower half. On a different note, I bought a JagMaster 20 years ago as I just loved the offset shape. Unfortunately the neck was a total design blunder. It was the wrong length, you just couldn't dial in the intonation at all. It's sat around hardly played for two decades but a friend bought me a new neck to bolt on, so I'm looking forward to actually enjoying it after all these years!

  • @Kookiebiskit
    @Kookiebiskit Před rokem

    I absolutely love the shape, ever since it first came out with the odd Tele layout as part of the Parellel Universe series. It looks like a 21st century Jazzmaster, I think. I wish the attention to detail was as good as its design.

  • @jimalcott760
    @jimalcott760 Před rokem

    Thanks for a great video. Love the ending guitar solo.

  • @cheapskate8656
    @cheapskate8656 Před rokem

    Enjoyable romp through a new Fender. It's all about the "Quality Assurance". I used to wire up lights for in store displays. All the lights were made in China. Some brands of lights had a lot of faults and poor work, a couple of brands had acceptable error rates. Look inside the poor brands and you will find a sticker that says "QA tested". Look inside the good brands and you find a slip of paper with the name of the QA tester signed in pen, the date and the batch number. When you know its coming back to you personally, well, you make sure its right.

  • @empyreal8354
    @empyreal8354 Před rokem

    I have the silver burst of this, fell in love with the shape when released. Mine plays like butter, frets and board are perfect, no faults. I suppose at this price these things are a bit more of a "gamble"?

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  Před rokem +1

      A gamble indeed.. I suppose 9 out of 10 are perfect but I think that this proves we should support local and we should buy in a shop and check everything carefully before we hand over our money?

  • @lynngeiger9168
    @lynngeiger9168 Před rokem

    this why I build my own guitars. To many short cuts and for the money I can build something way better. Yes I will spend more money than the base price, but after the fixes which most people do not know how to do, I am ahead of the game. Love these guys at Crimson. Ben is who I learned my chops from.

  • @SweetTGuitars
    @SweetTGuitars Před rokem +4

    I love the shape of this guitar. I am however disappointed at Fender for letting such obvious quality issues go without sorting them. It's fixed now and all is well. Someone is going to get a sweet deal on this guitar! Peace & Love!

  • @ubermac85
    @ubermac85 Před rokem

    My luthier found two high frets on my Meteora. He hated doing a fret job on it because Fender actually lacquered over the frets when they sprayed the maple neck and fret board. Now that all the lacquer is gone and the frets are perfect the guitar plays so well.one of my favorites.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  Před rokem

      I have seen more than a few people complaining about the lacquer being left over the frets, it is very fiddly to remove and something they should do at the factory at the very least.. Great Guitar in the end though

  • @tranka6112
    @tranka6112 Před rokem +1

    I'm just in 10minutes and I already have tears in my eyes... It really shows me again, why I don't want to buy a guitar any more, and why I have felt the urgent need to start building and maintaining myself some years ago... If you buy a used guitar and mod it to your needs you are better of... and the best part about that is: you really know who to blame for the final result :D

  • @D4veJap4n
    @D4veJap4n Před rokem

    Every fender / charvel I’ve had from the factory in the last two years has had such bad frets I’ve either sent them back or had to fully service them myself. So that’s four out of four guitars that were pretty much damaged in receipt. Not from delivery but from bad QC.

  • @someone7009
    @someone7009 Před rokem +1

    The Squier John5 tele I bought a while ago had the best fretjob I’ve seen to this day. All the recent purchases from Epiphone signature series, ESP and Solar have been far from perfect. Looks like Covid has affected factories a lot.

  • @nickmuns
    @nickmuns Před rokem

    I wonder what youl think of a jackson budget, i got a £300 warrior and although the neck had a gap on the low e side of the pocket, doesnt really effect the playability much but the frets seem fine, tbh i have not looked close enough nor felt anything wrong fret wise

  • @NMbass906
    @NMbass906 Před rokem

    Had the pleasure of owning a Flea signature for a little under 24 hours. Took it home and the fret sprout the next morning was nearly 2mm on both sides of the entire neck! Every fret! Returned it the next day but that took the wind out of my sails for a while honestly. :(

  • @midnightwind8067
    @midnightwind8067 Před 4 měsíci

    I was so hot for one of these and am grateful to see this video. I wanted this to replace my 1981 Lead lll (CBS). I just don’t see this being worth the money. They look so cool but looks isn’t everything. Thank you for all the quality and educational videos you do.

  • @haus05
    @haus05 Před rokem

    I have the same guitar exact... and when i got mine from my local shop here in Canada , the frets are totally covered in laquer overspray and look almost brown .. I didn't really realize until I played it for a day or so and some frets became shiny as the laquer wore off ... but its just so annoying. I dont want to get into polishing the frets and possibly messing up the shine on the board .. best way to do so I assume would be to mask the frets and gently steel wool the frets?

  • @maier43
    @maier43 Před 10 měsíci

    Nice work. Fun to see! Must say that my Japanese Strat came with perfect fit and finish. It was beautiful right out of the box. Seems that Japanese builders care more about the end result?

  • @brandonb1681
    @brandonb1681 Před rokem +1

    Ben would have a field day with my Harmony sunburst Strat style guitar I got at Sears in 86. My first guitar. I still have it. I really enjoy these tear down vids.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  Před rokem

      I'm looking forward to playing with some catalogue guitars.. we expect them to be problematic from that era though.. I honestly thought a modern Fender would be built to a budget but basically sound.. 😅

    • @brandonb1681
      @brandonb1681 Před rokem

      @@CrimsonCustomGuitars That will be a joy to watch.

  • @antonioelle4894
    @antonioelle4894 Před rokem

    Years ago I noticed something similar on the frets of a telecaster Highway one (2002), despite a bad fretwork in few years frets became smooth, was an ok guitar

  • @MegaPortenio
    @MegaPortenio Před rokem

    What would be the average cost of fixing the frets ( like shown in this video) in England ( I live in the States and have no idea of the cost here)
    Great Video, thanks!

  • @ursafan40
    @ursafan40 Před rokem +1

    I bought my American made Strat for the sound, sustain and feel.
    The fact that the final fit and finish was excellent was a welcome bonus.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  Před rokem +1

      That is it in the end.. either you buy something with great fit and finish or you buy a cheaper guitar that needs work..

  • @stonerjoe21
    @stonerjoe21 Před rokem

    I purchased the American Ultra Luxe Stratocaster sunburst with Rosewood fingerboard. The stainless steel frets were not placed correctly. They hang off the edge of the low E and there is empty space on the edge of the high e. I bought that guitar online. Luckily fender is warranty if it but that’s the most expensive mass production model of theirs. The QA is slipping hard at fender

  • @joesharpe7685
    @joesharpe7685 Před rokem

    As a tech who sees a lottttt of MiM player series guitars, I do fully agree the frets are never very good, however I have never seen brand new frets like that. Not trying to throw the guitar shop under the bus, (I've personally visited there and it's a lovely shop) but that seems like the work of a last minute quick fix to get it playable in store. Also these guitars have genuine satin finishes, I know because I have buffed a few of them up, and they buff up like a reluctant satin, not a dulled gloss. You can also see peeling in the satin, you cannot 'satin-ise' finish which isn't level, Most likely the shop used wire wool across the frets after filing them.

  • @gearViewmirror
    @gearViewmirror Před rokem

    I just unboxed a Fender Lead lll mim, with a Pau Ferro fretboard. The fretjob was actually quite ok, all nice and shiny, i only spotlevelled in 4 places. But the Pau Ferro....it looked like it was sanded with 100 grit and not touched again, thus bone dry. The part behind the nut is laquered and looks fine, why don't they laquer the whole board on this type of wood? I dyed it black and treated it to some deep conditioner and fixed with lemonoil, now it feels ok. I would have sent it back, but everything else is quite excellent as it is very loud acoustically and sounds absolutely amazing through my amps, a definite keeper. At 3.23kgs right in my favorite weight zone and is so comfortable to play!🎸🤘🎸

  • @LysanderLH
    @LysanderLH Před rokem

    I’d like to know what you think of a Harley Benton ‘LP’ after it has been properly set up and finished.

  • @tonwort
    @tonwort Před rokem +2

    This is a IKEA guitar. You bond with the thing because You put some work in. Brilliant!!

  • @johnp6269
    @johnp6269 Před rokem

    Ya just have blown my mind, an amazing builder buying not one but 2 guitars!!!! I kept telling myself no way is he gonna buy it then mind exploding! I'm a plumber by trade work has been slow with covid and all, I had nothing to do so I bought the cheapest kit money could buy and decided to in your words make it totally awesome!!!!! Dig the channel and love the jokes!! I'm a fan for life!!!!! Keep Rockin!!!!!!

    • @johnp6269
      @johnp6269 Před rokem

      Absolutely!! So awesome! Love the content!!!

  • @angusmackay7281
    @angusmackay7281 Před rokem +1

    It's a stunning shape. I want one, but not in the specs that fender do. It would be great is someone was to make an accurate "M-type" laser cut template set, I would definitely be down for buying one of those. I just wish I could think of someone who would do that... 🤔

  • @joeredtree
    @joeredtree Před rokem

    shouldn't you tape the pickups up when filing frets?

  • @garyz0611
    @garyz0611 Před rokem

    Just curious when you work on the frets like that aren’t you supposed to tape up the pick ups so the metal dust does not stick to them?

  • @kiezersosay49
    @kiezersosay49 Před rokem

    A little over a month ago i traded my gibson faded les paul HP...I like shorter scale super-strats mainly, but I really wanted somthing that had the same stratty sweetness my 1st guitar had...i got a super spec'd out Warmoth! Lol and had a ⅞ S-style(24 fret 24¾" scale) warmoth build finally finished a few weeks b4 that. The guy I traded it too told me he recently ordered a USA fender neck. It was bowed, but still couldn't be returned/replaced...
    Warmoth makes the finest guitars iv played. Iv had SO many different guitars the past 3 years and warmoth takes the whole friggn cake...i still love my bc rich mockingbird legacy ST and carvin dc400 and ibanez AZ242F, but my two warmoth's are as good as a guitar can play imo. Love to see you review one of there necks/full setup one day!
    Thanks for another great video...Skurge!

    • @joeking433
      @joeking433 Před rokem

      You still have to level Warmoth necks.

  • @seanjennings20
    @seanjennings20 Před rokem

    Can anyone explain why the output when both pickups are selected is typically around half the value of one pickup? I’m not thinking along the lines of well surely it would be double as I know there’s a reason. Just dont know that reason 😂

  • @jefft7085
    @jefft7085 Před rokem +4

    Mexican Fenders are all over the place with fret work. I currently have my eye on a Player Plus strat at a local shop that has amazing fret work.

    • @Ralf1erudd
      @Ralf1erudd Před rokem

      I just recently bought a Squier Classic Vibe Jazz bass in as new with tags condition. Yes it needed a setup including truss adjust, string height and just 3 frets on the 1st and 2nd strings above the 16th fret spot levelling. I wasn't surprised in the slightest. Most things need to be fettled to get the best out of them. But for the £220 I paid for it it's a beauty. Someome has to date the non film stars we meet in life lol

    • @maykolllopez1585
      @maykolllopez1585 Před rokem

      As a Hispanic and one who closely works with Mexican, I can tell you from experience that the average Mexican worker can either be your best, or laziest employee. I can see how it’s inconsistent from a person to person basis in the MIM factory.

  • @0Imtheslime0
    @0Imtheslime0 Před rokem

    Wait a minute.. The cable stuck under the PG is from factory?
    Do they have any QC at all?

  • @questocd174
    @questocd174 Před rokem

    Mine has similar issues along with electronic ground and soldering mistakes. After tlc it is lovely but it was a road to get there.

  • @benlogan430
    @benlogan430 Před rokem

    Ten years ago that gig bag came with a Squier bullet. Cool guitar that kinda looks like a Novo?

  • @scottdahlberg4890
    @scottdahlberg4890 Před rokem

    Waiting for that EPI SG tear down. I want one so bad. In left handed though.

  • @kraig800i
    @kraig800i Před rokem

    I don't think you metioned it as a gripe. . . . but how many springs are on the whammy unit for it to look like that ? I might just be unfamilliar with a strat style bridge setup but it looks like it could be flatter to the body than it is.

  • @davidwellings2783
    @davidwellings2783 Před rokem

    I realise guitars like this are built to a price, but this is as you say quite shocking…..!
    I was intrigued to see you lust after (…and purchase!) an Epiphone SG! I’ve always really liked that particular style of guitar, but balked at Gibson prices (…and quality control!)
    I have considered building one, but I’m not convinced by the tunomatic bridge/stop bar set up, which seems to me to shove the neck ‘behind my back’…! I wondered if something like the Schaller stop-tail bridge would be too radical a change, would it alter tone in any way and perhaps, also, would it allow for a shallower headstock angle and string spread from the nut, via a headstock reshape… (tuning stability…?)
    Love the material you produce - really enjoying the hand build and fascinated by the horological inspired piece….!
    I also have so many of your tools - wonderful!
    🥰🥰🎸🎸🍷🍷😊😊

  • @brandonjackson5865
    @brandonjackson5865 Před rokem +1

    Something you might could try to straighten out the pick guard and it’s probably more trouble than it’s worth, but take it off strip all the pots off and then lay it out on the hood or roof of your vehicle on a warm day and let the heat from the sun warm it and it might return flat . I saw a video of Zimm doing this with a spring cover for a Strat that was all warped up and it flattened right out.

    • @davidburke2132
      @davidburke2132 Před rokem +1

      Unfortunately Ben lives in the UK. We don’t have warm days 😜

    • @brandonjackson5865
      @brandonjackson5865 Před rokem

      @@davidburke2132 oh yeah that’s right it’s always damp and gloomy over there right ?

  • @EbonyPope
    @EbonyPope Před rokem

    I would like to see a deep dive with some of the the higher priced budget guitars like Harley Bentond and Epiphones.

  • @brundlefly1942
    @brundlefly1942 Před rokem

    You should've seen my MIM Dave Murray signature Strat. The fretjob was even worse than this ones. I cut myself twice on a fretend. Also the fretboardedges were coated with poly and not rounded over. I tried my best to fix everything but ultimately sold it. I'm pleased with my Meteora though.

  • @Luthiart
    @Luthiart Před rokem

    And yet, I have a Squier Classic Vibe Tele that's absolutely flawless. I went over that guitar with a microscope after I bought it (I'm a luthier too), and I couldn't find a damn thing wrong with it. The only thing it needed (IMO) was a 4-way switch. It's one of the best off-the-rack guitars I've ever owned, and it only cost $400.
    I love the Meteora as well. I built a copy out of Ash, with Jazzmaster pickups and trem.

    • @BryanClark-gk6ie
      @BryanClark-gk6ie Před 8 měsíci

      What kind of microscope do you use? I tried searching guitar microscope and the only thing I could find was the kind we used in science class back in school' microscope worms and included.

  • @ge1saman
    @ge1saman Před 3 měsíci

    You don't need much cavity paint with humbuckers. I like how you did make over but you could have cable tied the wires

  • @hibernative
    @hibernative Před rokem

    23:08 what's up with the bridge staggering here? Should look like a lightning bolt in the layout, right? High strings seem not intonated.

  • @stickplayer2
    @stickplayer2 Před rokem

    CZcams's new mobile look (at least on Android) made it incredibly difficult to find either the subscribe button, or comments. This is a terrific video, so I hope you get all the love!

  • @junglist1
    @junglist1 Před rokem

    Thanks very much for doing this. It's a great insight.
    Bit of a shame the fit and finish is shody to say the least.
    I'd love to see more of these video's. Also in the lower price categorie, say up to 500 pounds/euro's or so.
    I'd like to send you my Vintage V100pgm. That would make a great episode and in return id have a great set up guitar 😉.

  • @kennethdon3619
    @kennethdon3619 Před rokem

    iv got a mexican made fender powercaster, the fit and finish is actually excellent, my issue is a design flaw; it has a tune o matic style bridge and tailpiece, but no angle to the neck pocket, so without an angled shim, the action is too high with the bridge all the way down

  • @benbirdsinging3275
    @benbirdsinging3275 Před rokem

    How far can a Dutchman be from here to feel close to a guitar? In these videos we can see if it is worth getting close to this guitar...
    Great videos, hope there are more to come!

  • @stu-j
    @stu-j Před rokem

    To be honest Ben I wouldn't buy another higher end guitar again after the sub standard QC of my les paul standard and my American standard tele 2 years ago. Bad frets and the tooling marks on the les paul are horrible and you just can't stop seeing the faults! The neck on the tele was twisted ( replaced under warranty) but how do they leave the factory like this!

  • @linheitzig9227
    @linheitzig9227 Před rokem

    I'm sorry Fender didn't do a good job on that guitar, I was considering buying one. I'll have to take that into consideration if I buy one. Have to add a little more money to the purchase price for a trip to my luthier. Love what you do from California! Thank you!

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  Před rokem +2

      I truly think I got a bit if a duff one.. many of them are OK and if you go to a good shop then they would make sure this is done to a certain extent before you buy.. but yeah, I was disappointed. Thanks for watching!

    • @matthewmacdougall3198
      @matthewmacdougall3198 Před rokem

      @@CrimsonCustomGuitars I work at a shop that does the work, and unfortunately Fender Mexico is pretty poor across the board these days. Frequent bad fretwork

  • @edwardpentney8007
    @edwardpentney8007 Před rokem +1

    I had the same experience with a Fender Telecaster Performer I bought a few years back. The frets were awful. Ends hadn't been dressed properly and you could feel the scratches on every fret when bending. Not nearly good enough on a guitar costing over a grand.

  • @nickguitar737
    @nickguitar737 Před rokem +5

    Wow. It sounds good (now). That buckled scratchplate is just terrible! And from a fender I would have expected a much better fret job! Very interesting.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  Před rokem +2

      I had fun with it, and after a set up Josh really got her singing, but yeah.. I wasn't expecting quite so many issues.

  • @pipotherium
    @pipotherium Před rokem

    I had a bumpy scratchplate on a MIM DuoSonic - very frustrating.

  • @1tabularasa1
    @1tabularasa1 Před rokem

    It`s helpful to see what a Pro is looking for when he goes for guitar-shopping. Btw: I love that Guitar!

  • @mulgerbill
    @mulgerbill Před rokem +4

    Absolutely gorgeous shape and at first glance a worthy instrument.
    By the time Josh pointed out the trapped wire my jaw was bruised from hitting the floor so often.
    I know it's not their premium line but whoever signed this build off the shop floor and into dispatch should hang their head in shame

  • @hillsmith
    @hillsmith Před rokem

    Is that the best location for the jack?

  • @thatscottishdude2058
    @thatscottishdude2058 Před rokem

    Can you do a fender USA performer compared to a Gibson les Paul tribute , both entry level USA models and both similarly priced , would like to see who is putting out the best at that price

  • @finnmcool2
    @finnmcool2 Před rokem +3

    I was about to comment that the frets on my entry level ukulele look better than these did. But, then I remembered that I intentionally paid a premium to make sure a luthier did what I just watched you do. Regardless, I love my discontinued Dean acoustic soprano uke.

  • @polkatronixx
    @polkatronixx Před rokem

    I recently bought a Fender Vintera Telecaster Deluxe and the frets were so dirty. I tried to polish them, but they're still manky.

  • @Paul-D
    @Paul-D Před rokem +3

    Interesting to note he masked it first before the crowning despite your reply to why you dont mask first. No right or wrong way just always interesting to compare everyones approach. Also every MIM fender guitar ive ever stripped has had those weird random holes, no matter the age lol.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  Před rokem +2

      I always mask maple, just haven't had one on the bench/camera for a while, tbh, and to add to my previous reply, I stopped masking before leveling mainly due to having to get the best fret ends possible on new guitars.. on an old one that is already rounded etc there is not much to gain from avoiding the masking.. your comment last time had me question myself all over again!

    • @Paul-D
      @Paul-D Před rokem

      @@CrimsonCustomGuitars as i say im not trying to say theres right and wrong. Just as someone who has had to learn all this sort of stuff and does it all the time i always pay extra attention to how everyone approaches things haha. Thankfully i havent ever had to do any microtonal fret jobs 😅

    • @PaulCooksStuff
      @PaulCooksStuff Před rokem +2

      I was intrigued about the weird random hole a few years ago and asked around friends. There were oddball theories (weight relief to keep in in tolerance etc) but nothing plausible. So I ventured online. According to folklore and guitar forums its a consistent Mexico telltale - they use it as a locating hole for the routing jig. USA don't do it that way.
      But it could also be storage for a pinch of salt.

  • @jordanmayer5932
    @jordanmayer5932 Před rokem +1

    All the meteora guitars at my local shop played just fine and had pretty much great fretwork aside from one of em with a scratchy 12th fret

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  Před rokem

      That was what I was expecting.. a mediocre to good guitar with nice pickups needed a little tickle to get up to scratch.. not scratches and buckled scratchplates.

    • @jordanmayer5932
      @jordanmayer5932 Před rokem

      @@CrimsonCustomGuitars yeah its unfortunate. It seems I get lucky as my local fender dealer is a ma and pa business and they put alot of setup work and maintenance into anything that has qc issues. Obviously on the lower end stuff less care is taken but I have noticed as of late that quite a few Mexican fenders are turning out to be lemons with issues very similar to this meteora I miss the old made in Mexico strats of the late 90s

  • @setra23
    @setra23 Před rokem

    I had to go give my new-ish Squire Tele Bari' a good going over whilst watching this video. As far as I can see, I got a better built guitar for £300.
    It's a shame that the lower end guitars have jumped up massively in quality and value when the upper midrange and high end guitars seem to be getting wors.

  • @Pandamasque
    @Pandamasque Před rokem

    2:58 that's my first electric guitar. Epi G400 Custom. Gigantic D neck on that one.

  • @patggreen77
    @patggreen77 Před rokem

    You mention fretting quality on expensive guitars. About 10, 15 or so years ago, OK maybe more, I was goaded by an article in Guitarist magazine to look at the frets on my collection of guitars. I sent an email to guitarist at the time as I found that my collection of fenders, (strat) Gibson ,(Les paul standard, J40, Hummingbird) , Ibanez(Jem),PRS (Hollowbody, Custom) Godin, Vox (soundcaster), Eggle (Berlin, LA, NY) all had flat frets with little or no attempt to round them off, dress or polish or all the things that smaller luthier businesses point to being their strength. I pointed this out to guitarist at the time but received no comment. I can also say that up until this point i had not noticed that the performance of the guitars was poorer. The exception was a few Warmoth necks I replaced some guitars with which I found excellent although generally a fendery kind of screw in style. The frets on them were perfect and rounded and looked suspiciously as if the fingerboards were so accurate and the fretting installation technique so good that they hadn't done anything to them! (Maybe polish)They all play perfectly. And lastly 60 years ago I had a Tatay from Valencia nylon accoustic and the frets were unashamedly flat, sharp edged and rectangular which they are to this day and I never had any problem with them. The vox soundcaster is from 1966ish and plays fine and is I suspect somewhat underated if you want to take a detailed look at one. Please note all the guitars mentioned are pretty old and I'm sure all the manufacturers will point to increasing their standards since then.