Just wanted to thank you for your video. I wanted just the override bar and because of you, I was able to buy it. I do plan on getting the Gen2 system, but not right yet. And I may also buy the new brother hoop. I have the wide cap setup. I end up hitting the underside of my machine w the bill clamp. It is really irritating. I break quite a few needles going over the center seam on a structured hat. I didn't know the centering trick, so you taught me there too. I really appreciate your video!
I got the override clip with my gen 2. My question is the directions are telling me to remove the magnet cover and magnets. Is that right? Just got my 1st 10 needle and I don't want to break it. My husband gave it to me. Tks in advance. If you have a you tube on how to do that I'd be sure to watch it. Again tks
Where did you purchase your override bar from, if you don’t mind me asking. I’ve searched and didn’t see any place that sells only the override clip. Thanks in advance.
I saw where ya sent a note saying ya had a Pr1055 but then I somehow deleted the rest of the notification...I am sorry about that....but I did want to say that I have enjoyed watching your videos...they are helping me understand all that the 10 needle will do. Thanks!
i have the pr670e with the PRCF5 , the same one your displaying here, i purchased the hooptech cap frame, t-bar, and back of cap, little did i know as in the website it says it fits the pr600 , long story short , the cylindrical part of the driver on the prcf5 is smaller than previous model numbers, and sadly the hooptech frames did not fit, i guess there is a standard size cylinder part but brother decided to change that and render third party hoops useless, maybe not on purpose but that is the result
Thank you for the video it was very informative. Your opinion if you could only buy one hat hoop for someone starting hat embroidery would you get the Gen tech 2 or the new baby lock? Thanks
Hi Becky! I use the Brother/Babylock new hat hoop 98% of the time. The hooping method is much different than the other hat hoops - a bit of a learning curve with it with the different styles of hats, but it is my "go-to" for hats. If I want to embroider on the back or sides of hats, I use the Hoop Tech back-of-hat hoop, which works great. But with the Hoop Tech hat hoops, you need the original (larger) hat assembly. It is nice having many different "tools in the toolbox", but if I had to purchase one, I would buy the new Brother/Babylock hat hoop.
Hi Berta! The hoop that I use for embroidering hat backs and sides is the Hoop Tech back-of-hat hoop. It works great! However....this hoop will not work with the flat brim hat hoop. I will have an opportunity later today to take a look to see if we can use the flat brim hat hoop for embroidering on the back of hats. Will keep you posted!
Personally, my go-to is the Brother universal or what they used to call the flat brim hat hoop. I use it all the time. The Gen 2 was my go-to. The Gen 2 is fantastic for hooping hats, with its T-bar hooping station, but I prefer how close to the brim I can get with the Brother.
@@mancaveembroidery I thought the big draw for the gen2 was that you can get closer to the brim then the brother? I'm finding my brother hat hoop so difficult, I can't seem t do the structured caps
Have you had any issues with the new Brother hoop leaving marks on hats? The holder part seems to leave marks along where it makes contact with all the plastic teeth bits. I’ve tried leaving it a bit looser and I still have the same problem.
Great question! Not certain for sure, but when you purchase the Gen 2, you receive an override clip. The clip overrides a sensor that makes your machine think you are embroidering on "flat frames", not a hat frame. My thought would be, since the machine thinks you are using a "flat frame", you might be able to use the snowman. Another alternative would be to use your "live" camera - I use my live camera every time I hoop a hat, just to make sure it is positioned correctly. Great idea using the snowman - keep me posted, please!
With the new Brother Entrepreneur machine using the Gen 2 override clip and the Gen 2 frame. Is the brim of the hat hitting the back of the machine and rising up like it was on the Babylock one? I currently have a 6 needle Babylock and having terrible time with the caps. I am upgrading and was thinking of the Brother one if the brim of the caps was not hitting the back. Minus those "Richardson caps", any trouble with Otto or Flexfit? I have the Gen 2 cap frame set already and am still having trouble with my Babylock. Any information is greatly appreciated.
Hi Kathy! For me, I was able to move a bit closer to the brim using the Gen 2 with their override clip - about a quarter of an inch closer than the standard Brother/Babylock original hat hoop. But if I moved any closer than about 0.75", I would notice the hat would start to tip/rise up. But I still considered it a "win" at that time as I was able to get closer to the bill, even if was just a quarter of an inch. My go-to hat hoop now is the new "flat brim" or "universal" hat hoop from Brother/Babylock. With the new design of that hat hoop, even with the Richardson hats, I am able to lower the design easily to 0.50", and often within a 1/3 of an inch. I did lower it once to 0.25 of an inch, but I was too close to the sweatband in the hat. I removed the magnet, or sensor, from the hat assembly, that attaches to the machine, and in combination of doing that with using the override clip that came with the Gen 2, and the new hat hoop, that is how I am able to lower my design to 1/3 of an inch. Please let me know if this helps!
@@mancaveembroidery THANK YOU so much for getting back to me. I just found your you tube videos and love the way you explain everything soooo well. I want to get the Brother Entrepreneur Pro and your explanation has just made my decision easier. I will keep my Gen 2 hat hoop as well for now. Now just to get the hat hoop included with the sale of the machine??? Thanks again
Thank You Jerry, you are so helpful on how you describe how to hoop a hat, I was just wondering how to get one of those hoop neck Gen 2 right hat Clip do you have any idea besides buying the hole Gen 2 hoop teck $900. for the hoop and stand! I just want that little piece!
@@mancaveembroidery I misplaced my over-ride clip and had to order a replacement. They are proud of those things....$29.95 plus $11.95 shipping. I found that a paper clip will do the exact same thing.
The Hoop Tech Gen 2 will only work on the "wide" hat frame driver, not the newer "flat brim" or "universal" at hoop that they just released a couple years ago. The diameter is different between the two hat drivers, and the Gen 2 is made for the larger diameter, or the "wide" hat hoop. Hope this helps!
So I have ordered the flat brim had driver and am thinking also about the Gen2 Hat hoop. My question is do you get more than 2.5 inch high with the Gen2 Hat hoop using the override sensor?
Hi Shelly! It has been my experience, with the Gen 2 hat hoop, with using their override clip, the closest I can begin embroidery to the bill is approximately 0.75". The override clip makes the machine think you are embroidering on flats; however, if you move the design any closer to the bill, I have noticed the back of the hat will begin to tip upwards. This might be from the bill of the hat coming into contact with the back of the machine. I just do not feel comfortable with the back of the hat tipping upwards. With the override clip and the new flat brim or universal hat hoop, I am able to begin embroidery 0.25" of an inch above the bill. I had a design that was almost 2.5 inches tall, and it worked great, since I was able to start the design so close to the bill.
Hi Sara! I have found the closest I can embroider to the bill using the Hoop Tech is approximately 3/4 of an inch. If I try to move the design any closer, the back of the hat (part towards me) will tend to tip upwards - this is because the bill of the hat is pressing against the back of the machine.
Is there anyway you could tell me where to buy that override clip. I tried to search for it but couldn't find it. I've reach out to Hoop Tech but never heard anything back.
The override clip came with my Gen 2 hat hoop. I am uncertain if you may purchase it individually. The main goal is to override the sensor, so that it thinks we are embroidering on flat items, rather than a hat. I have seen a few people using "homemade" items, such as a small binder clip or even a guitar pick, to override the sensor. With the guitar pick, they drilled a hole in it for the tightening knob to go through, and then the guitar pick pressed down on the sensor just enough. On the back of the hat jig, the portion that attaches to the machine, there is a small rectangle piece that is held on with two small screws. You will need to remove those screws as well - all part of making the machine think you are embroidering on flats, as compared to a hat. Please let me know if you have any other questions!
Unfortunately, I do not have the exact measurement, but I would imagine approximately 6 inches. If you are wanting to embroider on the side panel, simply rotate the hat while you are hooping it. Rather than hooping the hat "straight", with the middle seam lined up with the middle of the hat hoop, rotate it to one side. I have a video demonstrating this method.
I received my override clip when I purchased my Hoop Tech Gen 2 hat hoop. After I purchased my Brother Flat Brim hat hoop, I simply used the clip when using the flat brim - and it works great. I am unsure if you can just purchase the clip by itself from Hoop Tech. Another option, I saw a person used a small "binder clip" - just something to keep the sensor pressed down so that the machine thinks it is using a regular flat hoop, as compared to a hat hoop.
I’m having some problems with the new hat hoop. I have a design that stitches out perfect on a regular hoop, but when I try to stitch it out on a hat, the stitches don’t line up right. Any idea what I can do to fix this issue?
With the Gen 2 hat hoop, plus the override clip, your machine thinks it is embroidering on "flats", so the available area would be determined by the hat you are embroidering.
Howard I have a PR1000e and have the same problem. You cannot get lower than about 1.25" without the brim of the cap rubbing on the lower case. I am experimenting with a modification using the bill retainer off the standard hoop and can get it about the normal 1". Hooptech should address this issue with Brother machines and not advertise getting embroidery closer to the brim and also have found it not suitable for flat brim caps.
Hello! I’m still having issues on my baby lock venture. If you have a email I’d love to email you pictures of the hat. It’s not low enough to the brim and it’s making me really frustrated. Really hoping you can help me!
The maximum height would be determined, in part, by the style of hat. In my experience, I have not been able to embroider closer than 3/4 of an inch above the bill using the Gen 2 and the override clip. Any closer, and the back of the begins to tip upwards. With the new Brother/Babylock hat hoop, with the override clip, I have embroidered 1/4 of an inch above the bill.
This video was exactly the information I was looking for!
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Just wanted to thank you for your video. I wanted just the override bar and because of you, I was able to buy it. I do plan on getting the Gen2 system, but not right yet. And I may also buy the new brother hoop. I have the wide cap setup. I end up hitting the underside of my machine w the bill clamp. It is really irritating. I break quite a few needles going over the center seam on a structured hat. I didn't know the centering trick, so you taught me there too. I really appreciate your video!
I got the override clip with my gen 2. My question is the directions are telling me to remove the magnet cover and magnets. Is that right? Just got my 1st 10 needle and I don't want to break it. My husband gave it to me. Tks in advance. If you have a you tube on how to do that I'd be sure to watch it. Again tks
Where did you purchase your override bar from, if you don’t mind me asking. I’ve searched and didn’t see any place that sells only the override clip. Thanks in advance.
I saw where ya sent a note saying ya had a Pr1055 but then I somehow deleted the rest of the notification...I am sorry about that....but I did want to say that I have enjoyed watching your videos...they are helping me understand all that the 10 needle will do. Thanks!
thank you! VERY imformative.... Makes the decision easier...
Glad it was helpful!
Very informative and detailed. Thanks Jerry
Thank you!
i have the pr670e with the PRCF5 , the same one your displaying here, i purchased the hooptech cap frame, t-bar, and back of cap, little did i know as in the website it says it fits the pr600 , long story short , the cylindrical part of the driver on the prcf5 is smaller than previous model numbers, and sadly the hooptech frames did not fit,
i guess there is a standard size cylinder part but brother decided to change that and render third party hoops useless, maybe not on purpose but that is the result
id like to see how you set up the frame on the table with the hooptech gen 2 hat hoop, thank you.
Thank you for your note. I will do a separate detailed video on the Hoop Tech Gen 2 hat hoop. :-)
Thank you for the video it was very informative. Your opinion if you could only buy one hat hoop for someone starting hat embroidery would you get the Gen tech 2 or the new baby lock? Thanks
Hi Becky! I use the Brother/Babylock new hat hoop 98% of the time. The hooping method is much different than the other hat hoops - a bit of a learning curve with it with the different styles of hats, but it is my "go-to" for hats. If I want to embroider on the back or sides of hats, I use the Hoop Tech back-of-hat hoop, which works great. But with the Hoop Tech hat hoops, you need the original (larger) hat assembly. It is nice having many different "tools in the toolbox", but if I had to purchase one, I would buy the new Brother/Babylock hat hoop.
Hi! How can I embroider a name on the back of a baseball cap?
I have the flat brim cap system.
BT
Hi Berta! The hoop that I use for embroidering hat backs and sides is the Hoop Tech back-of-hat hoop. It works great! However....this hoop will not work with the flat brim hat hoop. I will have an opportunity later today to take a look to see if we can use the flat brim hat hoop for embroidering on the back of hats. Will keep you posted!
Which hat hoop is your go to your favorite? I have the brother I don't love it. I kinda want to buy the hoop tech gen 2. Its a lot of money sooooo
Personally, my go-to is the Brother universal or what they used to call the flat brim hat hoop. I use it all the time. The Gen 2 was my go-to. The Gen 2 is fantastic for hooping hats, with its T-bar hooping station, but I prefer how close to the brim I can get with the Brother.
@@mancaveembroidery I thought the big draw for the gen2 was that you can get closer to the brim then the brother? I'm finding my brother hat hoop so difficult, I can't seem t do the structured caps
Have you had any issues with the new Brother hoop leaving marks on hats? The holder part seems to leave marks along where it makes contact with all the plastic teeth bits. I’ve tried leaving it a bit looser and I still have the same problem.
Sincere apologies if you covered this and I somehow missed it, but how does the Gen2 handle flat brim hats compared to the Brother?
The Gen 2 works great, but for me, I prefer using the Brother flat brim hat hoop for those types of hats.
Curious I love my snowman feature as I am not perfect when hooping. Does anyone know if you can use the snowman feature with the hooptech gen 2?
Great question! Not certain for sure, but when you purchase the Gen 2, you receive an override clip. The clip overrides a sensor that makes your machine think you are embroidering on "flat frames", not a hat frame. My thought would be, since the machine thinks you are using a "flat frame", you might be able to use the snowman. Another alternative would be to use your "live" camera - I use my live camera every time I hoop a hat, just to make sure it is positioned correctly. Great idea using the snowman - keep me posted, please!
With the new Brother Entrepreneur machine using the Gen 2 override clip and the Gen 2 frame. Is the brim of the hat hitting the back of the machine and rising up like it was on the Babylock one? I currently have a 6 needle Babylock and having terrible time with the caps. I am upgrading and was thinking of the Brother one if the brim of the caps was not hitting the back. Minus those "Richardson caps", any trouble with Otto or Flexfit? I have the Gen 2 cap frame set already and am still having trouble with my Babylock. Any information is greatly appreciated.
Hi Kathy! For me, I was able to move a bit closer to the brim using the Gen 2 with their override clip - about a quarter of an inch closer than the standard Brother/Babylock original hat hoop. But if I moved any closer than about 0.75", I would notice the hat would start to tip/rise up. But I still considered it a "win" at that time as I was able to get closer to the bill, even if was just a quarter of an inch. My go-to hat hoop now is the new "flat brim" or "universal" hat hoop from Brother/Babylock. With the new design of that hat hoop, even with the Richardson hats, I am able to lower the design easily to 0.50", and often within a 1/3 of an inch. I did lower it once to 0.25 of an inch, but I was too close to the sweatband in the hat. I removed the magnet, or sensor, from the hat assembly, that attaches to the machine, and in combination of doing that with using the override clip that came with the Gen 2, and the new hat hoop, that is how I am able to lower my design to 1/3 of an inch. Please let me know if this helps!
@@mancaveembroidery THANK YOU so much for getting back to me. I just found your you tube videos and love the way you explain everything soooo well. I want to get the Brother Entrepreneur Pro and your explanation has just made my decision easier. I will keep my Gen 2 hat hoop as well for now. Now just to get the hat hoop included with the sale of the machine??? Thanks again
Thank You Jerry, you are so helpful on how you describe how to hoop a hat, I was just wondering how to get one of those hoop neck Gen 2 right hat Clip do you have any idea besides buying the hole Gen 2 hoop teck $900. for the hoop and stand! I just want that little piece!
Hi Joyce! I heard you can also purchase the override clip through Kens Sewing Center. Hope this helps! :-)
@@mancaveembroidery I misplaced my over-ride clip and had to order a replacement. They are proud of those things....$29.95 plus $11.95 shipping. I found that a paper clip will do the exact same thing.
@@lehnlambert6491 Willing to share a pic on how you set that up??
Hi! Where please were you able to just purchase the over-ride clip? Excellent video, thank you!@@lehnlambert6491
@@melknee4757You can buy them direct from the manufacturer. I had to take a picture of the hoop to prove I actually had one.
With the Hoop Tech Gen 2 do you use the driver ENCF wide driver or EPCF3 regular driver? Thanks
The Hoop Tech Gen 2 will only work on the "wide" hat frame driver, not the newer "flat brim" or "universal" at hoop that they just released a couple years ago. The diameter is different between the two hat drivers, and the Gen 2 is made for the larger diameter, or the "wide" hat hoop. Hope this helps!
So I have ordered the flat brim had driver and am thinking also about the Gen2 Hat hoop. My question is do you get more than 2.5 inch high with the Gen2 Hat hoop using the override sensor?
Hi Shelly! It has been my experience, with the Gen 2 hat hoop, with using their override clip, the closest I can begin embroidery to the bill is approximately 0.75". The override clip makes the machine think you are embroidering on flats; however, if you move the design any closer to the bill, I have noticed the back of the hat will begin to tip upwards. This might be from the bill of the hat coming into contact with the back of the machine. I just do not feel comfortable with the back of the hat tipping upwards. With the override clip and the new flat brim or universal hat hoop, I am able to begin embroidery 0.25" of an inch above the bill. I had a design that was almost 2.5 inches tall, and it worked great, since I was able to start the design so close to the bill.
Is it possible to get the design closer to the brim? I have the Hoop Teck.
Hi Sara! I have found the closest I can embroider to the bill using the Hoop Tech is approximately 3/4 of an inch. If I try to move the design any closer, the back of the hat (part towards me) will tend to tip upwards - this is because the bill of the hat is pressing against the back of the machine.
Is there anyway you could tell me where to buy that override clip. I tried to search for it but couldn't find it. I've reach out to Hoop Tech but never heard anything back.
The override clip came with my Gen 2 hat hoop. I am uncertain if you may purchase it individually. The main goal is to override the sensor, so that it thinks we are embroidering on flat items, rather than a hat. I have seen a few people using "homemade" items, such as a small binder clip or even a guitar pick, to override the sensor. With the guitar pick, they drilled a hole in it for the tightening knob to go through, and then the guitar pick pressed down on the sensor just enough. On the back of the hat jig, the portion that attaches to the machine, there is a small rectangle piece that is held on with two small screws. You will need to remove those screws as well - all part of making the machine think you are embroidering on flats, as compared to a hat. Please let me know if you have any other questions!
Also what is the widest you can go with the flat brim hat driver
Unfortunately, I do not have the exact measurement, but I would imagine approximately 6 inches. If you are wanting to embroider on the side panel, simply rotate the hat while you are hooping it. Rather than hooping the hat "straight", with the middle seam lined up with the middle of the hat hoop, rotate it to one side. I have a video demonstrating this method.
Hello!!!! Where can I purchase just the clip to override. I search in Ken sewing and can’t locate it… any help would be greatly appreciated
Thank you
I received my override clip when I purchased my Hoop Tech Gen 2 hat hoop. After I purchased my Brother Flat Brim hat hoop, I simply used the clip when using the flat brim - and it works great. I am unsure if you can just purchase the clip by itself from Hoop Tech. Another option, I saw a person used a small "binder clip" - just something to keep the sensor pressed down so that the machine thinks it is using a regular flat hoop, as compared to a hat hoop.
Is there anyway to take a picture of that from the front also?
Hi Shelly - I'm sorry, I am not understanding your question. Please let me know. Thank you!
I’m having some problems with the new hat hoop. I have a design that stitches out perfect on a regular hoop, but when I try to stitch it out on a hat, the stitches don’t line up right. Any idea what I can do to fix this issue?
Hi Nicole. First question, was your design digitized specifically for a hat?
@@mancaveembroidery my digitizing software doesn’t have a way to specifically choose hat hoop. I did make it the right size when digitizing.
Hello can this work on ricoma em1010?
Unfortunately, I have not worked with any Ricoma embroidery machine.
Where can I buy it I research it and found some company’s that are selling it but doesn’t say it comes with an override clip help I need it thank you
When I purchased my Hoop Tech Gen 2 hat hoop, the clip was included with my purchase. I am uncertain if you may purchase the clip individually.
How large is the embroidery area with the Gen2 Hat Hoop?
With the Gen 2 hat hoop, plus the override clip, your machine thinks it is embroidering on "flats", so the available area would be determined by the hat you are embroidering.
I just purchased it and can't get lower than 1.25" from the brim. I have a PR600. Is there a trick to lowering it?
Hi Howard. Unfortunately, I am not that familiar with the 600 series. :(
Howard I have a PR1000e and have the same problem. You cannot get lower than about 1.25" without the brim of the cap rubbing on the lower case. I am experimenting with a modification using the bill retainer off the standard hoop and can get it about the normal 1". Hooptech should address this issue with Brother machines and not advertise getting embroidery closer to the brim and also have found it not suitable for flat brim caps.
Hello! I’m still having issues on my baby lock venture. If you have a email I’d love to email you pictures of the hat. It’s not low enough to the brim and it’s making me really frustrated. Really hoping you can help me!
Hi Katelynn - sorry I'm just now responding. My email is ManCaveEmbroidery@gmail.com. Thank you!
What is the maximum height i can embroider on the gen 2 hoop?
The maximum height would be determined, in part, by the style of hat. In my experience, I have not been able to embroider closer than 3/4 of an inch above the bill using the Gen 2 and the override clip. Any closer, and the back of the begins to tip upwards. With the new Brother/Babylock hat hoop, with the override clip, I have embroidered 1/4 of an inch above the bill.