2024 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV review // Battery trouble in extreme cold!
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- This is a Motormouth couple car review of the 2024 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV or plug-in hybrid electric compact SUV. Smooth, quiet, spacious and excellent EV range, the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV!
The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV has been a huge success for Mitsubishi and dealerships actually have stock of this plug-in hybrid. Mitsubishi Canada tells us there is a good supply in most trims in dealerships across Canada.
Mitsubishi also has one of the best battery warranties, 10 years or 160,000 km/100,000 miles on PHEV components and the lithium-ion battery.
The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, or plug-in hybrid has a 2.4-litre 4-cylinder with a twin motor PHEV system with a combined 248 horsepower and 332 lb-ft of torque.
The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV has a 20-kWh battery, gets 61 km/38 miles of EV range and allows for up to 687 km/420 miles of combined electric-gas range on a single charge and a tank of fuel.
The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV twin-motor AWD powertrain consists of a gasoline engine and front electric motor driving the front wheels and a standalone rear-mounted motor driving the rear axle.
The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV has a 1-speed transmission, since electric motors can turn fast there is no need for a conventional transmission or CVT. The gasoline only engages to the front wheel when the vehicle is at the right speed range approximately 130 km/h/81 mph.
Our top trim Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV test model has the 9” touchscreen with wireless Apple Carplay and Android Auto, navigation, a 12.3” digital driver display, multi-view camera, head-up display, wireless charger, Bose sound system, power front seats, semi-aniline leather appointed seats, driver seat memory, massage seats, heated front seats, a heated steering wheel, heated rear seats, a panoramic sunroof and a hands-free power tailgate.
The Outlander PHEV does not offer ventilated front seats on any trim level.
Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV fuel economy is 3.6Le/100 km, 64 MPGe . With the battery depleted, a combined 9L/100 km, 26 MPG. That’s 9.2L/100 km, 25.5 MPG city and 8.7L/100 km, 27 MPG highway.
The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV comes with a 3.3 kWh onboard charger. With a Level 1 charger, it will charge from 0-100% in 16 hours, Level 2 0-100% in 6 ½ hours and with a DC Fast Charger, it takes 38 minutes to charge up to 80%.
This plug-in hybrid qualifies for the Federal EV rebate in Canada of $5,000 and rebates in any participating provinces.
The Outlander starts at $48,198 CAD/$40,345 USD.
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0:00 Intro
0:39 Drive system
1:33 Key standard features
2:44 Drive impressions
3:17 Mitsubishi, Nissan Renault
3:55 Design
4:38 Interior
5:49 Available features
6:29 seating and space
7:49 Questions, Coffee & Cars
12:46 Hot topic
13:20 Battery warranty
13:30 battery location
13:37 Battery repairable
13:56 Battery replacement cost
14:29 Battery failure in Extreme cold
16:01 Price
16:19 Fuel economy
16:33 Charging
16:50 Rebates
17:08 Towing
17:12 Warranty
17:32 Competitors
17:36 Toyota RAV4 Prime
17:50 Kia Sportage PHEV
18:03 Hyundai Tucson PHEV
18:24 Kia Sorrento PHEV
18:32 Final thoughts - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I own a 2023 full load Outlander PHEV. I'm in Vancouver. After one year, I can say it's the best first year experience for any new vehicle I've owned, and I've had more than 50 new vehicles.The overlooked game changing feature: The level 3 charging feature is something that we end up using a lot. Being able to charge our vehicle to 80% in 30 minutes is amazing. We take our dogs to the dog park, there's a level 3 charger nearby. The dogs are happy, and our outlander gets topped up. Without that feature, we would use a lot more gas in many situations, as waiting 2-4 hours to charge is not practical.TIP: We found the vehicle would cycle between Gas and EV in colder weather. We took it to the dealer, the tech had the answer. Don't run the vehicle in EV, run it is normal, he went onto explain, the secondary battery, used to start the vehicle, does not charge in EV mode, therefore when driving in colder temps, as a safety measure the Gas comes on to charge the auxiliary battery. We switched to normal, and our range and efficiency improved. One other TIP: We live in a very hilly part of Vancouver. When going up a major hill with a full charge, switch the control to save. Once you've traversed the hill, switch back to normal. Using EV and going up a very steep long incline is a less efficient use of EV. That of course is assuming that your journey will exceed the range of your charge, which is often the case for us. Our normal trip is around 100KM a trip. The only thing I don't like about the vehicle is the lack of ventilated seats. In the summer, it's a minor issue. It's the only feature that both my wife and I miss about our RAV 4. As it stands now, I'd never go back to Toyota. While I enjoyed being a Toyota owner for more than 10 years, I can honestly say that the Outlander is a step ahead in quality and value, with a much better warranty, it's quiet and has a level 3 charge port. 😃
Thanks for great tip on driving in normal mode! About level 3 charging prot, having the option is great however it is not cheap, it would be around the same price as gas or a bit more.
I love mine too! Only complaint is headlight high beam its almost same as low beam any comment?
It has level 3 charger port but it's of the outdated type.
@@robertduklus6555 Yes it's Chademo, but I've owned my PHEV for a Year now and every level 3 charge station has Chademo. They can't remove that as there are millions of Nissans and other manufacturers that need them. I imagine that all the EV's will move towards a standard in the coming years.
We have a 2023 model we got in Dec 2022 and this is the second winter we've had the car. We keep it plugged in at home, however when parking at the train station to go into work it sits outside in a parking lot not plugged in, likewise when we take it up to the cottage where it just sits in the driveway. When it has been cold recently it will not start in EV mode and the engine comes on, but it has never not started altogether. The coldest it's ever been has probably been about -22 last year, but honestly it's never been a problem. You can start it in EV mode down to about -8 or so and the engine won't come on at all. If the engine starts it often will run for few minutes to warm things up and then will turn off if it's in normal mode. The engine will also come on if it's cold and you hit the windshield defroster, and we will sometimes get notices that heating the cabin requires us to exit EV mode if it's maybe less that -12 or so. You can feel that the heat pump can't keep up beyond -12 or so outside. It is great driving in snow though. It has full-time AWD due to dual electric motors and the traction control great. We put winter tires on it in winter as well. I'll also say that in normal mode, when driving on the highway, we get the engine coming on and connecting to the front wheels directly at speeds as low as 70. If you are driving it in EV mode it will stay in EV only mode until you hit about 130 or if you really floor it. The electric range in the summer is about 75 km, and in the winter it can be as low as 45km. The speed you are driving and how heavy your foot is has a huge impact on electric range. If we are going 120 on the highway in warm temps we get about 55 to 60 km, but driving 80 with cruise control stuck behind a column of cars on a flat two lane highway I've gotten over 80 km.
I own a 2023 GT PHEV model. I live in Mississauga. In the summer i was often getting above 90KM range. Earlier this winter I was getting around 55KM range. We've had a cold snap the past couple of days, today (January 17) has been the coldest day of the year and my range this morning when I unplugged and started her up (parked in the garage overnight) was 45KM.
I mean, that should be good enough to get the car warmed up, and then go on gas for the few days in the year it's this cold? This is a PHEV - not a full electric, so for me personally, that's absolutely fine - especially when most commutes are less than 45 KM. Agree? If I do need to go further, I'd use gas.
This is good enough for intown use
Did you park the car outside during the cold snap? I am planning to buy one but worried about the car not starting in -20 C and below temps. I live in the GTA so have similar weather patterns.
@@RahulGupta-zw6mu I always park it in the garage. And I plug it in as well (level 1 charging only). Do you research about cold weather and charging.
I took delivery of a GT back in September. Interior is great and luxurious. I’ve had a lot of complements on the interior. Since this generation outlander was announced, I instantly fell in love with the design.
Summer range was 90-100kms. In the winter I’m getting about 60-70km. In the deep freezes I get about 50km.
So far so good on this vehicle. I am fortunate to have not run into the no start issue yet. When we hit the -40 temps in Alberta, I kept this car plugged in when sitting outside. Of course, turtle mode comes in when it is -25 and below.
Heating can be an issue, sometimes it will blow cold air as the heat pump does not work well in -16C and below. ICE will kick in to heat.
To solve the floaty steering wheel issue, try tarmac mode. Steering gets firmer.
I hope you guys were able to try out full power mode. It takes off the line very quick!
Do you keep it in a garage or always outside
@@chuckyl3978 garage kept at night. Sits outdoors while at work.
@@Brian_Eugene_Lee you might be unhappy for quite a while. The Outlander is Mitsubishi’s best seller. They won’t get rid of it.
I’m in Regina and have almost the same experiences. 70km in good weather, 50km when colder.
We just went through the cold snap here and when it went to -37C we were in Saskatoon at my parents. So no heated garage where it usually sits. We plugged it in from when it was parked and the next day it started at -37C. We drove it to Regina and the battery cold warning was on the whole way. So I think best practice is to plug it in the whole time when it’s cold, and only buy if you have a garage, which I’m going to say is good advice if you buy any EV.
Now the good part. In the summer we went 3750km on one tank of gas. This car really shines if you use it for daily commutes and shopping. Lots of power and space, small enough to be nimble in the city and if your daily driving is under 80km…. You won’t use any gas. At all. And the drive is better than any SUV I’ve been in, and that includes the in-laws X3 -M.
90-100 kms in summer and 60-70 km in winter seems to be too good to be true. & 70-80 during summer and 50-60 during winter might be average. However, you may be lucky getting better battery unless you are talking about the numbers showing on the guessometer.
It has taken me awhile, but … I’m (surprisingly) finally warming to these Mitsubishis. Nothing really looks like them, though at first I thought it looked a bit to futuristic. But I’ve grown into it. And I am so impressed with the interior. Well done them! Thanks for the video.
Any vehicle that offers A Caramel interior Looks Sharp 😊❤!!
Agreed!
They consolidate, but won't be disappearing ... where I am, there is only 1 ever 30-60 miles, where there were more than one in the past... but there are MORE mitsus on the road now than ever before. If they don't have problems, there's no need to have a million dealerships.
Would that the Mitsubishi could warm to you in low temperatures, instead of becoming a giant undriveable ice cube :)
-36C in Calgary, my 23 Outlander PHEV was starting fine. It was staying outside on the driveway
Did you have it plugged it? The issue is if you don't plug-it in before it gets really cold, it won't start. If you didn't have it plugged in and it started just fine, that's great to hear.
@@andreaspencer9813 Yes I always plugged in when I arrived home. Level 2 charger
@@andreaspencer9813 we were in edmonton for friend's wedding, my wife's car. we plugged in the regular 110v line and that stays fine. The second night we were in jasper, no plug available so when it was -20c the ev section won't start but engine was able to start as regular then as we drive the slightly higher fuel consumption heats up the battery pack with coolant and ev mode was activated an hour later in the drive.
I really love the way you mixed the vehicle with questions coffee & cars on the same video. Smart !😊
I have this exact SUV (model and year). Came from Acura MDX 2015 elite (new at the time) and MDX 2017 Tech (new) and Outlander PHEV 2022. This car is excellent. I get at least 60+ km on the battery. Once you are used to accelerate from a stop/light, it is so fast compared to gas that you can't go back to gas. BTW, I tried the same model but gas version for 2 weeks. The PHEV blows it away. When people get in the car, they are truly impressed by the interior and how smooth the drive is. It is really a great SUV. They have improved almost all aspects of the SUV compared to the 2022 PHEV model (longer charging cable, wireless Apple/Android thingy, added the 3rd row vs 2 row on the 2022 PHEV, etc...). I am truly impressed. Also this model does not look pedestrian like a RAV 4 or a Kia.
I own a 2024 Mitsubishi Phev and love the car. I do think Mitsubishi made a big mistake in not providing proper BMS for cold weather. They seemed to have spent of of their efforts on battery cooling. It uses a liquid cooling loop from the heat pump. It seems to me they should have found a way to use the same loop on reverse to warm the battery. In cold weather they should force the ICE on and use that heat through the heat pump to properly condition the battery. As far as not starting in cold weather, they should have included a conventional starter motor using the 12volt battery system for cold weather starts. As it is now the ice motor is only started with the high voltage drive battery, ( which is great in normal temperature, I love how quiet it is when the ice comes on.) Anyway if they had done way of starting the ICE in cold weather, then most of the issue would be solved.
I had a 2020 Prius Prime and I parked it, unplugged, overnight in Clinton BC three years ago when the temperature dropped to -40C! The car was able to preheat the cabin via the keyfob remote HVAC function (which uses the car's internal battery pack) and the ICE engine started immediately when I pushed the start button.
That is exactly the way it should be and the way I assumed Mitsubishi would be dealing with cold weather, until I watched this video.
best car i have same
Hi Guys !!, and Thank You for been a hard working couple no mater the temperature you're out driving to give us all the good information that we really need before buying one. This Outlander looks beautiful inside and out, the style make you keep watching it. Have a great warm day Guys with a hot coffee mug boiler size.
thanks a lot Andrea and Zach! few videos ago i suggested to clarify the transmission used cause lots of people dont actually know it, you answered me in a comment and now adressed it in this review you are amazing! Now about the car, a lot of people are getting way above EPA km/miles of range both in summer and winter. I love the design, unique, strong, feels robust and so easy to spot in this river of SUVs. I dont remember the name of the video, but an actual mechanic engineer working for a long time in the car industry said the outlander is so well build, from the inside to the outside, well above its competitors for the price. I love it but for sure it would be good for Mitsubishi to adress this extreme cold issues.
I seen the same video and its a Toyota Engineer that did the review. He claimed its better than his RAV PRIME & it's time for Toyota to raise the bar to be competitive with the outlander.
Great video thank you.
From the message read about the PHEV Range of 70 to 80km/charge, other ppl are reporting up to 90kms per charge in the summer, which surpases the REV 4 in many ways.
I definitely prefer the Outlander the PHEV
not with AC on. that drops substantially below the 68km range if climate on.
@@marcvere5747 with AC on, the heat pump does pretty well and i still get over 70km. I got as much as 93km in summer months with on and off AC
After the -45c we had last week I’m glad I picked the hybrid CRV over this. What a dealbreaker. Thanks for the heads up.
We have a 2024 Outlander GT PHEV, and we have adopted our driving habits to extend the battery range beyond the 60 km range. So, we select the CHARGE option when going up hills to maintain the battery life, and we switched back to EV when driving normal terrain while the SUV automatically recharges the battery going downhill. We planned a trip from Blind Bay to Kelowna, BC (135 km) in December and selected a route with the fewest hills. We drove the normal speed limit and when we arrived in Kelowna, we still had 22 km left on our battery range and burned 1/8 tank. Now that's IMPRESSIVE! Also, since my wife doesn't drive much, when we bought the vehicle, we increase the basic warranty from 5yrs/100,000 km to 10yrs/120,000km for $2,000 because of it having only a 4 cylinder engine for such a heavy vehicle and to help charge the battery.
I get 80 km of range in the summertime as well! Fantastic I love it.
My mom got the Mitsubishi outlander phev red 2024, 5 days ago. She love it.
I drive a Honda Clarity and it runs fine at -40. On a recent 38km commute to work I saw both a new model prius and a Hyundai Tucson PHEV both frozen at intersections and abandoned. The Clarity has battery warming for Canadian models which keeps the car available provided you plug in while outside at home and at work. Without battery warming this Mitsu is really just a three season driver in the prairies. Honda is building the same Clarity drivetrain in a chinese market CRV but is not importing it at this time.
My Outlander is garage parked and always plugged in every night. Going to work I was able to use 30 km of battery and did not plug in my 23 Outlander GT-P the first day of the cold snap in Calgary at work outside. 8.5 hours later it still started, but low power mode (turtle warning). This was during -42C weather, so driving for a bit did not warm up the battery, 30 km to get home and the battery line barely moved while I used more gas on the trip home.
Next day, I brought my level 1 charger to work to keep the battery warm and use the app to remote start the climate controls. After work, no problems starting, but the climate control barely did anything and it was still cold inside the cabin. Still had turtle mode on, until I went to the mall and parked underground. I was able to start using the battery again for the drive home.
During this cold snap, my brother's 2013 Civic with a 2021 battery, and my parents 2003 Sienna with a 2022 battery, died because they forgot to plug in the engine block over night.
Basically, people should prepare their car for winter conditions.
Also, summer driving I did get 64 km on battery alone (75% highway/25%city) and so far this winter, I am getting 33 km on the battery alone. That guy must be hypermiling to get 90 km on battery alone
They were probably reporting a higher ratio of city driving. Or conditions in which they didn't have either the heat or AC on.
Love u guys! Big fan of ur reviews!!
Thanks for another great review. May I suggest you to include the Q&A to all car manufacturers on all your reviews on hybrids, plugged-in hybrids, and EVs the costs alone and installed costs on the battery pack? Make it a standard question.
Every phev must be plug overnight at -20c to help the battery to heat it self.
Always read the owners manual.
I had a Honda clarity for 4 years and never had problems.
Now owner of an EV.
Yes, that is exactly what Mitsubishi is saying, plug it in every night if it's very cold.
@@andreaspencer9813 An other thing
If you have a phev and wanted to use the 120v plug often my electrician said to use a new 120v 20 amp to prevent problems.
Your plug will be working every day for many hours during the night 🌙 .
@@BertrandRacicot Great suggestion!
Doesn't have a battery heater.
@@lon6320 it is not an heater like tesla, it is the cooler of the motor that keep the heat.
Love your content, really informative and love to see the canadian perspective of car reviews. I have a 23 model. 7500km driven so far. My daily drive is 120kms, 20%city drive, 50% 80km speed limit country lane and 30% 100km speed limit highways. Each drive I manage to drive about 65 to 75% on EV, largely depends on the weather. Summer time I could manage nearly 1100kms on a full tank and winter time nearly 800 to 850kms, also depends if I have any longer drives out of my usual 120kms daily drive. Definitely got some difficulty staying in ev on temp less than -5c and struggles at Temps less than -20c, but never had issues starting the car. I had issues with app when I bought the car but mistubishi was quick to resolve it. I hate the fact that compared to other phev, Outlander engine powers the battery primarily to move the car which takes a lot of gas when the battery runs out, like a lot, defeats the whole purpose of economy. My honda CRV gives me 7 -8l/100km which is also half the price of this one. Saying that it can be an amazing city car, regen brakes work really well. At B3 and B4 I can gain upto 5, 6 kms driving in the city. Also for an expensive car this one got some rattling sound at different places but it might be a me thing, something I gotta check during my maintainance. Overall I am still on the fence about this car. Economy numbers shown on the car doesn't disappoint me but that also involve my relentless effort driving the car preheating and running without the hvac on and just by heated seats and steering wheel to do local chores and sometimes even my daily commute. All these latest news regarding battery issues combined poor resale values can be a bit scary.
Very informative. Thanks
Great review! It's interesting that the old PHEV did not have such issue at all. There are people in Canada who start their old Outlander PHEVs in -30 C and just drive...
I think Mitsubishi should address this. I don't it's fine not to be able to start your vehicle because it's... too cold.
The older version had a battery heating system, which they dropped during the 2023 update.
I don't know why they dropped it. It seems like a pretty big oversight for a vehicle that sells well in Canada.
Are we sure that the older model didn’t have the same problem or just we weren’t told?
According to everything I have read the pre-2023 models would start fine in -30 or below.
There is a form to complaint to the federal govt about the cold non-start issue. It is a safety thing if you are stranded simply because it refuses to turn on while it is -30 someone could end up dead.
just booked an appointment for Monday to check our 2023 outlander PHEV to check why the gas pedal stuck twice today. Had to hit the brakes hard to make it release. Last time that happened to me was in the mid 60's when my MG carbs stuck full throttle in a snow storm. That made for an interesting ride till I got stopped.
Very entertaining. All the need to know! Well done!
Really very informative content , thanks
Very good review, as usual. As info for all.. in addition to the non-availability of ventilated seats, note that a HomeLink garage door opener isn't available either on the Outlander.
That is an impressive looking SUV.
I like your Coffee & Car video's. I ❤ your Car video's ❗️ Please do more in depth Vehicle video's .
Nice to know it's a good option that is actually available.
It’s my first winter with my 2023 outlander phev …… I’m in northern Ontario…… I’ve plugged mine in when below about -10 c …..
Mine has easily started at -28 c ……. I did run the engine the night before at about 11 pm for 10 min because I knew it was gonna be extremely cold……. The outlander did go into power reduced mode the next day …. But it seemed to drive fine …. Of course using mainly the ICE until the car warmed up …… the climate control mode on the app is useless below -15 …….. a partial solution might be a feature on the app to start the ICE and warm up the car …. Especially if u could schedule it during the night …… How do we get Mitshubishi to add that feature my motormouth friends ????? I won’t pay for the app when my 2 years are up unless I can start the engine with the App ……. Love the vehicle and Ev mode does work well in most temperatures ……
The cold affects the battery in my Hybrid RAV4 and it is quite noticeable(East coast Canada). I find anything below 0 degrees C it don't work well(all EV mode). After owning a Hybrid for 3 Canadian winters, I wouldn't consider a EV.
An EV has a much larger battery so it'll handle winters better. The biggest hit is you'll lose range. The range hit isn't too bad until you get to really really cold temps. But it'll still work and charge.
An electric car in Canada is like solar panels on your roof. You save lots of money in summer. And it will offset your winter cost. For 8 months out of the year if you drive well and manage you'll most likely only fill up 3-7 times. If the car is used for in town computing. And during the winter months if your commute is 50k max you can still manage.
I have an EV on the Canadian West Coast and I agree. I’d have a hybrid where there is real winter
even worse in Alberta
If you have home charger and you don't drive hundreds of miles daily, EV will rule at any weather.
Great for honest reviews, and share the real negative issues in real life, that is why your channel is different
The Outlander PHEV is such a sleeper of an amazing car. Just wish it got better fuel economy on hybrid mode. That would be the last nail in coffin in its comparisons to the RAV4 Prime where it beats the latter in comfort, space, and possibly even soft-off-roading performance. The RAV4 Prime's 40+ MPG on hybrid mode is just simply class leading though.
I have the old one and I'm getting about 7l per 100 kms with the battery depleted. I would expect the new one to yield similar results.
@@nikolayrayanov2895 that’s about 33 MPG equivalent, pretty good but still not quite in the same league as the RAV4 Prime’s 5.8l per 100km
Yeah, this (and the cold weather issue) are its only real limiting factors.
The Outlander is better than the Rav4 in its comfort and interior styling. It has a better AWD system. It has a better driving experience, in that it has a more consistent EV driving feel. It's more spacious and has an (emergency) third row.
But 40mpg is a pretty big deal. And while the Outlander can definitely do better than the EPA rated numbers it's still well off the 40mpg.
I have a 2023 gas outlander and I am very happy with it. It is the best winter vehicle ive ever owned here in Canada. Im glad that I didnt get that PHEV where battery replacements are too costly (no need for that headache). Also, efficiency and charging issues wont work with me here in Canada. The PHEV might work better in countries with warmer climates all throughout the year.
I used to have only praises for this vehicle. I have a 2023 SEL and last week we experienced extreme cold weather. I scrambled to look for an outlet at work to keep it plugged in. It was terrifying to think that it wouldn’t start and I’d be stranded. So basically it’s best suited for warmer weather. I wish I’d known this before I bought one. This is btw our 3rd suv purchase from Mitsubishi but our first PHEV.
I don’t understand- doesn’t it run just on gas engine in that case??
@@reserva120 unfortunately no. When the battery is too cold everything pretty much is shut. And warnings on the control panel appear. Below-20 use a different vehicle.
With electrification we have gone from range anxiety to charger anxiety and now to temperature anxiety. Truly weird omission by Mitsubishi here to have dropped the battery heating system from the previous generation.
@@genericreference6969 if they don't know how much the Battey is.. how do they know what to charge for the car..
I think all EV’s need a battery heating system, especially in cold weather climates. When vehicle reviewers talk about air temperatures when reviewing EV’s, does colder wind chill temperature make battery charging even worse? I think so.
How's the weather there 😉? It's been a few days of ice storms here in Boston MA. 🐻❄️ Cool Video, no pun intended 😀.
No issues with mine last winter or this one. It was sub zero in Maine when I brought it there last year without leaving it plugged in. I did notice the gas engine started back then when I had charge, but assumed I left the heat one etc... maybe not.
Last week in southern interior of BC we had -25 degress C -35 with wind and the battery would not heat up at all. Car kept outside in full exposure not plugged in, but full battery, and ICE still started no problem and it still ran but in normal mode just no EV, SAVE or CHARGE mode available. Turtle warning came up but everything worked and power was still there.
That is closer to what I eould expect from this vehicle, but this video has spooked me!
Batteries are not affected by wind chill, humans are.
@@ScubaSteveCanada ok, the point is still -25 and battery not working. Plugged in or not
I did find a way to turn off the battery cooler too, just in case it was trying work for some reason. You can do that though settings in the dash menu.
Im having the same during the cold snaps here in Winnipeg. However, the only thing I have a problem with is using the remote climate control on the app, I tried to warm up the cabin using it, but the heater barely warmed up the cabin if nothing at all even after 20 mins. Are you having the same issues using climate control?
Change the front end to appeal to more people, make 18 inch wheels available in all trims (only 20 inch available in higher trims and those are VERY expensive tires), make firmer steering feel, make a 5-seat version with a full size spare tire, have a battery heater installed to avoid cold weather issues, and have a regular starter battery, as opposed to hybrid battery starting the engine. Then, this would be a winner.
I have a 2024 outlander PHEV GT. I have put nearly 10 000km on it. Here are my thoughts. It's incredibly comfortable and quiet. I love the tech minus not having wireless android auto. Though, a quick amazon purchase for a wireless adapter solved that. Wireless charge pad and the HUD are easily the best features. The heat pump works great too.
The battery is okay. I get around 65km avg range in the fall. My commute is a total of 45km round trip. 90% is on the highway doing 112km/h. In the winter the range falls to maybe 40km at best. Anything below -5°C and the battery struggles, causing the engine to come on when on the highway. In the summer, I got really annoyed because the engine would always come on with just under 25% left (anywhere between 13-18km according to the range estimate) and stay on for the last 7km home. I didn't have a hill to ascend or make a big acceleration. I also experimented with it in Eco mode, AC off, etc to do a conditions check but the problem persisted no matter what. Not a huge deal but it still causes me to burn fuel when I have battery left. I also find the last 25% of the estimated range is not accurate. It falls off really quick.
Fall fuel efficiency for my commute: 2.3l/100km
Winter (avg -5°C): 5.4l/100km
Overall, I love this car.
P.S. if you are like me and the app wont consistently initiate the remote climate control, when you first open the app send a lock door command. After it succeeds you'll have no problems starting the climate control. Went from a 30% success rate to 100%
Guys, great video as usual, but recommend you remind folks of the driving differences (the quiet cabin, the EV acceleration characteristics, etc) when comparing this with the non PHEV version. Sure, depending on the user's daily-use it might not save any money over the non-PHEV version, but maybe a customer doesn't mind paying the PHEV premium just for the enhanced driving dynamics? Take my Chevy Volt for example. It's based on the Chevy Cruze, but in terms of driving dynamics the Volt is a completely different animal, and well worth the extra $$.
Great review video! Really nice job and pleasant to watch. But, I have an important question; @ timestamp 2:22 I read through your copy and I saw that it mentions the 'Charge' setting in your drive modes. It states that while in 'Charge' the Outlander uses the gas engine to charge/REcharge the electric battery? Does that mean if you burn the 38 miles of EV only range, then drive say another 100 miles or so, that driving will REcharge up the electric battery so you have another available 38 miles (or so) of strictly EV range? Many thanks for answering this question.
I am so happy that you pronounce the company name as Mitsubishi instead of Mitsubeeeshi like NA presenters!!!
I had ordered a phev outlander and a phev pacifica and needed only one. they arrived at the same time which was about 10 months. went with the pacifica
This vehicle is definitely impressive. The interior is light years beyond what Toyota offers in the RAV4. I agree - the GT trim line should have ventilated front seats standard.
Great job you two! Stay safe out there. I too like the outside styling. The interior looks very nice. Something akin to Mazda interiors, if not a touch nicer, eh? I’m just the road apiece in the states. I have one vehicle with a heated steering wheel in addition the heated and ventilated seats. Only use ventilation a few times in summer months. I agree with you guys, why not throw in ventilated seats?
@Motormouth_0. Hello, to whom am I speaking with?
14:36 👀 - I like seeing the Outlander. Flirted with going to test drive one until I realized the 3rd row was too small. It’s going to -20deg C this weekend and I guess some new owners will find out if they haven’t read the manual. Thanks for the heads up will share this video with my friend who bought one 2mths ago.
Love Coffee and & Cars btw.
While this car has issues at -20deg C I still believe Hybrid is a great option in Canada, esp if you have only 1 car in the household. When winter arrives, I have observed that EVs almost disappear.
It gets cold in Canada especially my part, so NO!
This is a great car. Temperature affects even Tesla batteries as TFL did a review on one, so this is a pretty decent car.
Not even starting at -20C seems to me a deal-breaker in what otherwise appears to be a great car.
@@genericreference6969 It should start at -20C because a friend in Canada owns one that’s trouble free.
@@genericreference6969 😂 exactly. When winter comes even a Tesla is rare sighting where I am. Summer time oh boy EVs are out in their glory. 😂.
We're picking up our 2024 Outlander phev tomorrow.
I'm under the impression that the risk of not starting begins around -30c, not at -20. Either way, I live in NS and it almost never gets that cold so I'm not overly worried. That being said, leaving off the battery heating system in this generation is a bogus decision for vehicles sold in Canada. If they don't have better advice than "keep it in an indoor garage", "wait for warmer temperatures", or "have it towed to the dealership to warm up" it's going to cost them customers through a lot of Canada.
Congrats. I'm picking mine in two weeks and live in Quebec. I'm in the same mindset as you. Not too worried given -30 is not very common and I have a second vehicle and a garage, but still hoping for a recall in the future to fix this.
@@felix111 I really like Outlander PHEV. But I saw their service schedule on the website is every 5 months. Is that right? I find it strange since my VW has annual / 15000 km service schedule.
Just received my brand new 2024 Outlander GT-P PHEV yesterday evening. Very exciting to drive more as fuel price in Metro Vancouver reached $213 /100ltr.
I have a 2024 Volvo V60 PHEV in Winnipeg, not a problem driving in temps well below -20C even in electric mode. When it's below -20C the ICE will start with the car, but usually turns off and switches to pure electric mode after 5 minutes in city traffic.
I have had my 2023 for just over a year now. We use the preheat feature plugged into our garage before leaving. I don't know why Mitsubishi doesn't just say it has a clutch and no transmission.
This is my next car most likely, just a few more years! Mitsubishis have been in my family since 2003 lol.
The brushed aluminum matte look around the front grille would look better than the bright, shiny chrome
The EV range is pretty good and Mitsubishi has really dialed in the EV driving nature & regen braking of this car. The biggest issue is they removed the battery heater (which was on the prior MY18~21 models at least in Canada) and its kind of weak 3.3 kW onboard AC charger. They really should have upgraded to a 6.6 kW unit given the large size of the battery pack compared to the outgoing car which was 12~13.8 kWh depending on model year.
Mitsubishi Canada annoying is the only manufacturer which does NOT warranty battery degradation. I know this firsthand since I used to have a MY18 Outlander PHEV and its EV range went from 37km when new to 28km at best in summer by 2023. Meanwhile, VW, Ford, Nissan etc. all state if the state of health drops below 70% within 8yrs or 160,000km the HV battery is replaced via factory warranty.
I've really appreciated all of your videos, and thanks so much for the great reviews!
As someone considering a hybrid like the Outlander, I wonder if you could ask the executives: why do they make so many of them with solely leather interiors?
The reason I ask is because I am vegetarian by choice and for the environment. I want to go hybrid for similar reasons, but having leather so prevalent is making the choice really difficult. I would think there are plenty of others like me, so why are these automakers making it so difficult?!
This outlander comes with cloth interiors too in the lower trims. Stop creating problems where there are none. First world problems!
@@ejohnson3131 It is the first world which created the problems of climate change, and why we need vehicles like this. If you are fine with massive herds of animals used as supplies for your cars, that's on you.
Does it track actual engine use for maintenance, or is an oil change still needed every 6000 km? With the range I would rarely use gas
Living in Edmonton where we are going to -29C tonight and previously we were hitting close to -40c.. Thinking Uber would be your friend if you had one of these
the seven seats really was my favorite. as an asian family with an average height, i can even squeeze in 8 adults inside my outlander 2024.
When I test drove the Outlander PHEV I found the motor to be pretty well isolated so i'd hear mostly the annoying VESS from the battery. The external sound from cars and bikes were very loud though as if there were no isolation on the doors. I might be wrong
The honda prologue is starting at $65,000 according to my honda dealership but nothing on the lot only the showroom model but orders can be taken greetings again from oakville Ontario
GM did a stop production on the chassis and imagine that affects Honda too. One of the downsides of using another companies' product vs developing your own.
Awesome as usual guys! So in Alberta we had a surge in electricity and an emergency response was sent to everyone asking us not use unnecessary electricity, including charging our electric cars. Btw our cold climate and ridiculous federal mandate to go all electric by 2035, how are we supposed to survive our winters? Does full electric cars even make sense? Maybe very mild hybrids… what are your thoughts ?
Big problem with Mitsubishi Canada is the mediocre post sale customer service. I own a 2022 outlander and the car came plagued with so many issues. Since they are a very small company it takes ages for them to fix the issues. I could write an ebook called Reasons for not to buy a Mitsubishi outlander. Disappointing because that car is beautiful and well equipped.
I used to own a RAV4 Prime. Up to 80 km range in the summer and as low as 40km in the winter.
What do you think about the resale value of PHEV vs GAS after driving for 7-8years ?
Great video but have you ever looked at the cost of putting in a level 2 charger? Calgary would be a 200 amp system in your house so about $15,000. Modern house built in the last 1- 2 years have been planned for a 200 amp system. That said new houses are like 300- 400 dollars a square foot. Notice what you said about battery.... HOPE ( 14 min 17 sec in video)....LOL
The Outlander preview is by far my favorite vehicle, especially for the ev driving feel. But the extreme cold issue combined with my closest dealer 90 minutes away just made it not a good choice. Instead I decided to go the fun route and have an X1 m35i ordered.
Ev range: city is about 65km, hwy is about 50km
Vancouver winter: -20%
Oh man, I thought ventilated seats was an option. Thank you for mentioning that... On another note why is the USA not on metric! I had to look up -20C.... Oh you said F temp later on!! it was about that or colder in Chicago this last week.... Great vid like usual! If this was all EV and had a couple more things it would be great!!
The USA military is definitely on the metric system. The rest of the U.S. ... nope.
Had friends who purchased the first gen. They’re down to 10 miles of usable range…. I’ll keep my RAV4 Prime thank you.
Seems like a decent option for a family that wants a PHEV now. How is the build quality? In past, I really found Mitsubishis feeling plasticky (hard plastics) with rattles and shakes. You mentioned it’s really quiet and the interior is nice, were there any areas that you found cheaper feeling it was it up to Honda/toyota levels of quality?
It's made in Japan, way better than the American assembled competitors, it actually won top 10 interiors of 2021, it has dual paned acoustic glass.
All well, I was interested... but it has been a month since I had a week of -40... that -20 limitation makes it a no go.
Most leather seats are full aniline which is a vinyl coating over the leather semi-aniline is less vinyl, and softer seating surfaces
I have heard that a software update will change the -20C to a lower temperature. Yes, it will tow 1500 lbs but the dealer told me that you cannot use a conventional tow package and must install the Mitusbishi manufactured parts. ( $2000 +/- ). When you install the part, the warning on it says, NOT FOR TOWING and is intended for mounting a bike rack or similar accessory. The dealer says you cannot have the car undercoated by Zeibart or Crown and only they can do it. Another $2500 but, you do not have to go back every year. They say 10 years on undercoating. $1500 for the package that includes filling your tires with Nitrogen rather than air. Well over $5000 for the package that covers all the things that the vehicle warranty does not cover for the 10 years advertised. Love the Outlander for driving and style but, be prepared when you are done with the salesman and meet "The Closer". Oh and, the difference in pressure loss between tires filled with nitrogen or those with just air is 1.3 psi per year. All tires, nitrogen-filled or not, lose pressure over time. If you are getting your tires rotated once per year, the garage should be testing and adjusting pressure. In my opinion, nitrogen is not worth paying extra. Check your own tires every month and you will save money.
Been looking forward to this and in the snow and cold, does it perform well in these conditions, although it is PHEV 🎉
Lots of information in this review that's for sure!
Bought a 2024 PHEV a few months ago... - Went through + 15 to -35 Celsius for 2 months....Never had a problem starting and driving the car even after leaving the car in -35 for 10 hours. Yes...The car told me "Hey...The battery can't drive the vehicle fully...We're going to start the engine"
The car did NOT fail to start. Drove me home and no issues with my heated seats and steering wheel.
Due to the cold, yes the engine comes on....BUT I've averaged for two months now .7L/100Km...Yes... .7L/100KM
I did drive of just a bit over 200KM and it was about 8L/100KM - I do that maybe once every 6 months.
If you drive about 50KM or less every day....get a plug in. Outlander is available...RAv 4 - Not so much
When warm, and driving in the city, the best I've done in the city is about 70KM...and that was a bit of highway driving (So regen)
I just finished my first road trip....One tank of gas and a full charge when leaving my home...~790 km.
Calgary > Camrose > some small towns > and back
It's not the greatest for highway driving for fuel economy 9L/100KM but it's not meant for that (Doing 115Km/hr)...Doing my daily driving around the city for 3 months (Roughly 2700 KM) without using one drop of gas this thing is great! - Using the "Charge" function when on the highway you recharge the battery while driving and when it get's about %60-%70 charge you switch to EV only and extend your range even more.
When they say the engine comes on at 130Km/hr it doesn't but who is really driving that fast?
Not today! It's too cold!!🥶
Very well done guys! As a PHEV, one advise is in such extreme conditions just keep it plugged in, at home or office or if gone long for shopping use the mall chargers. Also don’t hesitate to turn on pre departure climate conditioning, it sure improves the battery performance.
If it is below -15°C you can’t use the remote to preheat the vehicle. Heat pump shuts off at that temperature. No way to remote start the engine. No battery heater, so leaving it plugged in won’t help below-30°C.
Sure sounds suspicious they won't / can't give a price for battery. Remember all the bad comments about Hyundai regarding Inconsistent / lack of information about their pricing.
They don't want the same bad rep. that Hyundai got.
It'll cost much less than an Ionic 5 battery because it's only 1/3 the size (20kWh vs 58kWh). But it'll still be very expensive, so not something they will want to advertise.
Best guess is ~$20k. But at least it's still less than the value of the vehicle, such that insurance wouldn't write off your vehicle so casually.
If we're talking about when the vehicle has depreciated then it can be considered similar to a serious engine failure. Either way it probably won't be worth repairing.
2024 and still on Chademo. How did that not come up
I'm going to go for the BYD SEAL U as it has a drive range of 110 to 150kms
I hate, truly hate black interior. It is so hot in the summer and especially in the sunny state's. Thank you for the review. I like the vehicle, just hate the interior color.
I want one ...
It was -42 last week in Calgary... So this is a big no
Is the battery air cooled or liquid cooled? Massive degradation difference depending on that cooling method.
It's liquid cooling technology.
I do wonder if the state of charge reaches 100% at some point overnight, if the battery still remains as warm as if it were still charging. If that’s true, great. If not, possibly wise to bump back to 120v charging overnight instead of 240v?
Good question, that’s why just set a pre departure climate conditioning, in many ECs, PHEVs, it can be set for 30-45 mins, it keeps the vehicle ready for you and also the battery happy.
The heat pump doesn’t work below-15°C so you can’t precondition the cabin below that temperature.
The range can be situational, if your commute is highway driving on flat roads id say the range would reduce.
If its city driving with a lot of braking giving you the regenerative breaking it will increase your range.
Thats why there is a "combined" range
in Canada it look like you can easyly find Outlander PHEV with discount and promo than find a Rav4 Hybrid - Prime. I wonder why my city only have 1 Mitsubishi dealer and 6 Toyota dealer.
Would you recommend this as a second hand purchase?
If you buy second hand you’ll likely get the previous generation. This generation is 2023-
ChadeMo is dead, btw. Followed soon by CCS.
Just few weeks back ChadeMo was installed along with CSS at Husky station, Flo still installing across GTA, Canada
For new EVs, most likely, but for charging stations, no way.
I leave my 2018 outlandeer hybrid plugged in at all times in -10 --20c and fans starts up now and then warming batteries always starts, . EV mode 50 % those temp
I think but double check, you say 8 inch screen but my came with 9 inch
Standard 8" touchscreen, available 9".
So I'm curious how tall he is. That would put things more into perspective when he does his little backseat hand review.
Zack is 6 feet tall.
Is it ture that when the starter motor users the big battery pack, when that battery dies the car wouldn't start....
Yup. And Mitsubishi removed the battery heating system from the previous generation
Enjoy your show! Recently spoke with a Mitsubishi salesperson in North Vancouver about the Outlander PHEV. Despite its appealing 10-year warranty, I learned that all services must be done at the dealership. The cumulative maintenance costs, including both standard and battery-related services, pose a significant concern and could be a deal-breaker for me. I'm questioning whether owning a PHEV truly translates to cost savings when considering the high maintenance expenses. What are your thoughts on the practical cost of owning a PHEV? Additionally, I'm curious about the legality and reasonability of voiding the warranty for services conducted elsewhere. Thank you!
“All services must be done at the dealership “, that is a lying sales rep. It is not legal. As long as you have receipts from your favourite mechanic, they have to uphold the warranty.
@@patrickbigras5232 The Courts also accept a video showing the work was done.
As an added benefit it will catch fire when charging just like its brethren EV's do, as seen on MGuy's channel.
Do you find the gas pedal was kinda hidden to the right beside the console? I had to angle my leg and foot in an odd way to reach it and it was a dealbreaker on the test drive. I really liked the Outlander otherwise, was bummed.
Years ago, I test drove an Isuzu Rodeo but could not see the speedometer.Sales rep tried to talk me up to a more expensice model with tilt steering. No sale.