VINTAGE LIFT with only 2 buttons - up/down (what more do you need!?)
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- čas přidán 5. 01. 2020
- What more...? Well, perhaps some CALL BUTTONS? Nope! All you get is two buttons - up and down! Not sure on the year of this lift, but my best guess is 1910s-1930s.
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What a beautiful piece of old machinery, I love how these things stand the test of time. All I can say is that I’m jealous that I’ll probably never get the chance to see one like it, but hey ho
They only survive since they are goods lifts and they aren't used as much as passenger lifts
Absolutely, I mean, 100 years later would an ecodisc still be working? But on the other hand think of it this way - Kone (pronounced kon-nay) have how many employees? How many offices? How many vehicles, etc, etc. It's a big company and it goes without saying that without profit then it would probably go out of business! Anyone starting a business for it NOT to make adequate profit to pay everyone (and development, etc) and everything else that is required to run a business successfully should be fired! The whole purpose of a company is to make money, and modernising lift is a way of doing this. It's a shame that some people in the community forget this part, and I'd like to see THEM start a business on the back of 'lets keep old lifts working', because although I AGREE that we should preserve old lifts, a company cannot survive on this principle! It's a shame, but it is what it is! Perhaps getting an old lift LISTED will save a few, but it'll be a few years yet until the local lift in a car park in your town gets listed (if ever!).
remember one like this a wadsworth. in old gellings foundry. douglas ironmongers,. had a brass handle for up and down. all the old boys there since school could judge and gauge the stop at floors with precision .me it was many attempts before success .
octi Super kot I ran a much older passenger one in a hotel. Didn’t have those nice buttons we had a leaver. No safety gate on the one I ran.
@@One-Crazy-Cat what hotel was that ??
Looks like a time travel machine when you opened the door and it looked all modern.
Yea
it adds character to the lift i think considering modern ones dont last long at all
I was thinking the exact same thing!
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Its movement seems so smooth and quiet!
@@kreuner11 its stood the test of time indeed it was difficult to level fast off the mark barring the odd relay clunk it was smooth and quiet well used but very well looked after roll on the motor room video :)
I remember back in the 80's and I was doing some work in a mill just outside of Leeds. This lift reminds me of that. The shaft ran down the middle of the building and so to get from one part of the floor to the other, the lift had to be on that floor, if you get me. You had to walk through the lift to reach the other part of the building, so like the lift was also part of the floor. Another great video. Thanks.
walking through the lift - yes, I know exactly what you mean and I've seen it in a few buildings. If the lift isn't there, then it splits the room in two! Thanks for the compliment!
That's just beautiful!! I can't help but imagine some young Otis engineer suggesting an "update" replacing the buttons with a touchscreen... with just [up] and [down] selections available...
A modern elevator with just up and down controls on a screen (more you tap, more floors) would be amazing
@@ThomasFarquhar2 up/down swiping...
The old mill I used to work at in the early 1980s had a lift very similar, only it was a lever, up, down and middle was Stop! Getting it to stop exactly level was really tricky but it didn't take long to become an expert especially when shifting pallet trucks around, they wouldn't move over the threshold unless it was spot on.level. It was always scary seeing the brick lift shaft wall passing by between floors.
We also had a clocking in machine just like that one, it was old even back then, very mechanical, had a lever to adjust for morning, lunch time out and back in and end of shift and a lever to stamp your card!
Paternoster lifts are very interesting. Kinda scary since they do not stop at all, but interesting nonetheless.
Just to give you an idea what those do, they have multiple "cabins" without doors that go in circles from the top floor to the bottom floor without stopping. You Have to step quickly in and out of the lift or you will be crushed.
You'll find them almost exclusivly in germany and some surrounding countries, but if you get the chance to ride on one, you should.
I think they are dangerous but hey why not try one out lol
There is a working Paternoster lift just over 10 miles from the one in the video, in the Arts Tower of the University of Sheffield.
It is heritage - why don't they put some grease on those squeakung, grinding hinges and rollers?
Oh no it adds to the character to the lift
This elevator belongs in a horror game (resident evil/silent hill/outlast)
That gate really badly needs some oil. The squeeking when you slide it sound like fingers down a black board.
it was very squeeky indeed went through me as i closed the gate made me shudder even when i was a child lol
@@TIEGTHEIMMORTALELITESGROUP Could be made better by adding a bunch of oil though. I'd use Shimano PTFE chain oil :P
@@rkan2 it needs oil but it adds to the character i think :)
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This reminds me of the lifts in Lewis's in Glasgow when they had a lift attendant. years later they installed push button lifts. Later still I got a job there And found out the old manual lifts were still there behind screens for staff use, one day I had to use them to go to the basement for stock and got lost, I ended up in a brick clad maze that frightened the life out of me until I found a way out. :-)
oooh where in glasgow was this ?
Wow! I imagine the logic has probably 3 relays. Up, Down, and Safety.
Either way it must be something VERY simple, I can only imagine that the controller is just a slate plate with relays on it.
you will see all will be revealed when matt has finished editing the 2nd part theres so much editing its crazy lol
Alexis Trinquet bigclivedotcom has a video with a lift control board that looks about same age. Marble slab with a couple of giant contactors on it. Like the ones you can hear tripping in the control room every time they press one of the buttons.
@@JasperJanssen pretty sure that would be a very similar -if not identical- controller, those things were brutal.
@@JasperJanssen I've actually seen that video.
Honestly, those lifts are pretty awesome. There should be more of those built nowadays. Especially in places like museums or stuff. I mean, especially with those doors, they're not too dangerous to operate.
Just because you can’t replace anything this doesn’t means you can’t clean it.
And she said that this is not your business
Pretty common type of elevator setup you can find in old Chicago industrial buildings. Worked on many with my Dad. You had to stop the elevator at the right spot or the doors on the floor could not be opened. They too had wooden sides, gates on ends, no top and vertical opening doors. They were typically larger than this though.
This video is... *Uplifting*
It elevated it's to a whole new level hahaha
@@TIEGTHEIMMORTALELITESGROUP yeah lol
if only there were more lifts as old as this still fully original and running
Can't wait for the motor room tour, it would definitely be interesting to see the control circuit of this old lift.
Most surviving old lifts tend to be goods lifts as these don't see as much use as passenger lifts.
Probably has a board with thick copper plates as traces.
All will be revealed soon guys very soon
This is basically a manually controlled elevator that the operator has to level the elevator at the desired floor. It was like this before relay controllers were invented to automate them
Yes and no. If you have a look at the video links at the end, this is lift at another location from 1905. This lift is about 10-20 years older than the one in this video and it had auto-leveling (via the floor selector) and separate floor buttons. But it's the COST factor that is different. For the lift in this video, much cheaper - no floor selector, less components, cheaper to install I guess. The 1905 lift - even though it's 10-20 years old, look at the size of those relays! More cost, but more functionality! czcams.com/video/bpluwj-rXiU/video.html
Corrected title: Men play around in old lift all day
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The intro is the best intro I’ve ever seen
What an absolutely awesome find. 😮
I thought you were just vining in some weird ass industrial building, but then outta nowhere your in a freakin lord and Taylor
What an amazing elevator from 1920’s
I worked on similar lifts back in the mid 80’s and were called Pickerings and something upon . Can’t remember exactly but for sure Pickerings and had same door mechanical / electrical locks. Very reliable lifts.
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What a beautiful lift.
It was amazing to film
Awesome video you have here, I love seeing these old lifts that still work and of course the great editing quality! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Mr Matt's editing is very unique and educational check out the next video coming soon ...... MOTOR ROOM!!! 🤪🤪😄😄
way more interesting than a modern lift!
Totally second that mate
Wow, that thing looks creepy. The constant-pressure controls is like something you would find in America.
I was watching 9 floors of terror again and now this 👌🏻
Btw amazing lift, that's like finding a treasure.
There's loads where I am really nice of the management to accommodate our requests
The old Seattle Times building has 3 manually controlled freight elevators similar to this one with an up/ down buttons. You hold a key over and push and hold the direction you want to go. Its fun operating those old lifts. There were also hallway buttons that did the same thing to call lift and a red button inside the lift that would override the hall buttons so you could stop and level and such...
I think I've seen a few lifts, as you describe, on youtube. I'm trying to find it but failed - it was like this one but with many more floors and there were two lifts side by side: czcams.com/video/M-Q2l3OKiMQ/video.html The landing calls lit a LAMP in each lift car, then the lift operator would then decide which calls to manually drive the lift up/dn to (i.e. the calls were not automatic). I'll see if I can find the video that I mean later (it was in new york somewhere, Dieselducy has a few videos on his channel, but I don't 'think' it was a DD video)
Worked on an Etchells Congdon & Muir lift of similar design a couple of years ago, similar vintage I would think.
The up/down control had been replaced some years earlier by a modern plastic case and standard industrial pushbuttons.
I got asked to look at it because the lift maintenance contractor couldn't fix it.
Not sure of the order of events but a shorted stator winding and open slip ring connection on the motor, plus contactor welded up....
Local motor specialist rewound the motor (6-pole 5HP) and brake solenoid, I built a replacement contactor assembly with added overload protection.
The ground and second floor stops are handled by limit switches, only the first floor is a test of skill on the button.
While electrically unsafe and now disconnected, I left the original open frame contactor panel up in the motor room for historical integrity. Couldn't bear to scrap it.
Vintage lift with amazing destinations
certainly an interesting lift with character!
Wow, 100% original!
Still 100% scary too 🥺🥺😁😁
What an amazing video cannot wait for part 2! No matter how long it takes between your vids I have never regretted my subscription. Keep it up and please take your time. It is always worth the wait.
Thanks for your comment, just another MILLION people to convince to subscribe and I'll be happy haha :D
@@mrmattandmrchay dont worry matt may i suggest patreon it will boost your income and audience im glad i subscribed and got in touch with ya matt i couldnt let you go without taking at least i look roll on part 2
There are many faulty/broken lifts all over England. I know from experience. This would be more reliable. One lift in the London Science Museum went flying past the chosen floor. That one disturbed me a bit.
Holy crap no auto level that’s awesome
it was so sensitive it couldnt level properly it was quick off the mark
One of my fav lifts yet! Happy new year btw :)
Back in the late 1980's Camden house Arlington road, Camden had a very similar lift (it was a bail hostel back then and now a probation hostel) but only enough room for two people and operated by the residents, don't know if it still exist but might be worth checking out!
I'd say it's probably older, maybe 1910-1920, that would make it 100 years old if it was from the 1920s!! I have yet to see a generic elevator/lift last at least 70 years LOL
I love the old time clock. When I was an apprentice fifty years ago I used to clock in and out on one exactly like that!
Cool! Yes, this was a fascinating building!
40 years in the elevator trade.... likely more actual metal in this one than a new one! New stuff won't be around this long!
Donald Davis Very true. What company do/did you work for? :-)
@@Lift.Tracker I worked for Indiana University...we had 300+ units...every brand you can think of...worst part...we used low bid on everything we bought....my last 7 years as a mid line supervisor over the crew....my immediate boss never ever had one day in the trade...but he knew way more than I ever did.....I retired to get away from his sorry ass....lol
A video about a lift. No first an advertisement about a lift
The title I agree with because even though all the bells and whistles theyve added on to this kind of thing are cool in my opinion I do like the simple stuff like this with just two buttons
matt people are wanting older lifts we need to team up again theres more vintage lifts up here :)
Awesome Lift Video
thanks!
I love it
Cool man!
thanks :)
This is the first video I watched on this channel
Cool, always interesting to hear how people discovered my channel, thanks for the comment
By now you would think they would have elevators that not only go up and down but sideways also. 🤯🤯🤯
They could definitely make them, but they probably aren’t needed.
This is my first time seeing this channel and I automatically thought "vintage lift" meant it was going to be an old automotive lift. I wasn't expecting an elevator but I watched, and enjoyed, anyway.
Wait and check out the next video
@@TIEGTHEIMMORTALELITESGROUP Okay?
It will show how this lift works
@@TIEGTHEIMMORTALELITESGROUP I already get the gist of how this elevator works. I'll likely watch the next video, just to watch it, anyway just because I want to, and to see if there's something I might have missed. However, I don't get why, nor how, that has anything to do with an automotive lift of any type nor fashion.
We used to have something very much like this at out high school and when I graduated (2015), it was still there though as of recently it was updated to a modern style one.
To answer the title, a huge red button labelled 'STOP'
not available, lol!
you just let go of the drive buttons?
@@KanalFrump yeah whatever
my guess is 1907 lol
I'll be researching it for the exact commission date
I wish every old elevator must be listed to stop modernization
Do you realize how unsafe these old things are???
@@nikolanikola8543 That's in manually controlled elevators only
We had one of those manual controlled goods lifts in Takapuna NZ, in the metering department. When the lift was not aligned within a few CM, the doors wouldn't unlock.
Were is pt 2? Also I'm afraid of elevators, thanks recremended
Coming very soon! Before the end of the week I hope. Loads of editing in the next one which is why it's taking so long. Thanks for watching
still better than modernized lifts, no electronic components. pure mechanics!
how is it better? Maybe cooler or more impressive, but by no means better, don't lie to yourself
Aleksandras Nah, old ones really are better. Like you said, they are cooler and more impressive. Also more interesting. It’s much better to see relays clicking, floor selectors spinning and the excellent “whooop” sounds you can only find on old lift motors. It’s much better to see all that stuff than a bunch of LEDs flickering. Once a lift is modernised, it never lasts as long as it once did when it was original before it needs to be modernised again. It’s because the components they use to replace the old stuff is often mass produced and cheap. Anyway, that is my view. I can see your point though. :-)
OMG!!! Now I'm gonna have nightmares! Oh heck! :O Gawds!
i did have nightmares on a regular basis 25 years later its still scary but fun lol
It appears to be made by Etchells, Congdon and Muir of Manchester, based on the logo on the push button unit.
There seem to be a lot of little flying critters taking up residence in that lift car.
Yeah they come as listed too 🤪🤪😄😄
Otis is the oldest elevator company in the world since 1853!
Can't believe this is 100 years old or more
Id be creeped out being in that lift lol. I hate lifts in general but seen as im in a wheelchair havent exactly got a choice in using em. Been a few places where the main lifts aren’t working and ive had to use goods lift and they are just so eerie and horrible lol
They are the best though sturdy
I’ve worked on many of these units in the New Orleans area.
Guy:Nothing has been replaced
Me:They swith for the lights seems new
Guy: .....
I think he means mechanically.
Yup had a different light but hey the one we had was rubbish lol
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There is an elevator at Yale University that operates on water pressure. It’s basically a hydraulic elevator that uses the city water pressure to raise the car up. It’s the only one I’ve ever seen. Dates back to around 1900.
Wow, now that is a really early lift! I remember reading up about this type of lift which uses a huge 'horizonal' piston (water powered) and the ropes are taken up between platforms, exactly like the ones here: czcams.com/video/eodpBQPalSs/video.html
@Bill Moran
Do you know if it is still there? When did you last see this elevator?
These were banned in G.Britain in the 1960s
@@alanhobbs7048
Did existing installations have to be taken out of service/modernized at that point?
This elevator cold be used for a Halloween exhibit.
It is an old heritage elevator... Pretty noise things in here! So, why don't they put some grease oil on those squeaking, grinding hinges and rollers on this elevator? Quite interesting this elevator, but is really old this elevator, you know.
I would constantly be paranoid of the final limit switches.
funny you should say that, because I was too!
we tested the limit lol
cool.
Definitely DC power with no relays judging by how huge and direct that switch is.
Its not DC as you'd need some method of producing DC from an AC mains supply (dc generators were 60s/70s). And it would be very difficult to connect those switches in the cab directly to the motor without overloading the wires in the trailing cables from motor room to lift car.
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Oh wow. Thabk you for information.
with a modern elevator, it is faster failure than the old elevator.
( still works now )
I’m assuming that if you overshoot the top or bottom there is a limit switch in the shaft that stops it?
I think all old lifts should be listed
This depends on whether people "want to preserve the heritage" of the lifts which you think should be listed. I can't see anyone wanting to preserve a 1970s Express lift (except me and you perhaps haha) ;)
@@mrmattandmrchay Yeah
They are very unsafe...
Which one’s the motor room for this exact lift in the playlist?
Wow! This video is getting a much larger amount of views than what is usual for some reason.
Just the CZcams algorithm doing it's thing..
It's a very old lift with character what's not to like
A lift that is listed as a monument, wish they did that in netherlands. Amazing that lift survived, does it also still have it’s original passive interlocks?
All will be revealed on the next video coming very soon
i had a place nearby my house where there was a old (hydrolic) schindler lift (i think it was from 1991) and it was very nice, untill the hydrolic pump did some wierd things, and started leaking badly... but the worst thing is, they did not want to repair it. they wanted to replace it :( so now its is gone (sad..) and replaced with a stupid Kone EcoDisk... Why, WHYYY
This is one of the oldest and scariest employee time clocks I have ever filmed.
I just thought it was a older freight elevator … they get stuck all the time lol my mall has them going to the dump “I never knew about either directly under the mall” from any store working as a teen meant “yes I’m going to get stuck in the elevator break”
no upside down smoking
There's a really old elevator at a restaurant my mom used to work at that still works and it's one that you have to move left or right to go up or down. It also doesn't have a call feature. I'll upload the footage one day.
ITAC85 That sounds very nice! Looking forward to when you upload a video! :-)
I saw you said you have to go up or down the stairs to get the lift if it is not on your floor. Would it really have been difficult to have some up and down buttons on the outside to function as call buttons to control the lift to your floor? Surely the controls could just be connected to the same relays? :-)
Also, I doubt you tested this, but what happens if you are going up, then also press down so you’re pressing both buttons? Would it change direction to the most recently pressed button? Continue going up? Or stop moving? What do you think? :-)
DAMN IT DAMN IT DAMN IT! I wish you hadn't mentioned that LOL :D ...because this is an experiment which was so obvious but I never thought of trying it (pressing up and down together). My best guess is this - If you press UP, then it disconnects the down button (nothing will happen if you press the other direction). And if you press DOWN, then the up button will have no effect and it will keep going down. If you press both together at the same time, then which ever relay comes on first will get priority. I'm 95% sure this is what would happen, but I wish I thought to test it! :)
So you didn’t test the Safety Brake? These are the most interesting videos as not very many have been in this kind of places.
I must admit, I should have tried opening the gates whilst in motion, but it would have just cut the door circuit and the lift would have stopped, which would have been the same action as releasing the up or down button. Thanks for the comment
Have you seen the still working Paternoster-lift in Oslo, Norway? It's in "Landbrukets hus" and should be worth a visit:-)
I've been to Norway about 3 times, but for business. Never any time to do anything other than airport>hotel>site(work)>airport. But I'll keep it in mind if I ever do return, thanks!
Sad to say that this shop closed down and ceased trading in 2022 after 147 years in business.
So if you are on the top floor and the lift is in the basement and there are no call buttons, how do you use it?
That's the interesting part haha. You'd have to walk up and get it (I'm assuming there are stairs up to the top floor. If no stairs, then in it would be impossible to leave the lift at the wrong floor, as you'd have to take the lift to leave the floor in the first place. Probably, the lift is left on the yard level as a habit.
It was always left on yard level they had stairs but they killer horrible you have to be a fool to use them stairs did it once never again
oh god i would get claustrophobic so fast
What would happen if you kept going up or down after top or bottom floor?
Yejoon Yang The Lift would simply stop by itself and refuse to move in that direction any further. :-)
What more do you need? A stop
what make is the lift?
"oh dear"
Oh that’s nothing. The lift I used daily had no inside gate so you could touch the doors on way up and it had an up and down leaver you had to learn to get good at lining up the floor.
Where is this lift
You don't have to spend you just have to pretend!
Elevator and lift are the same right?
No they just bkth go up and down
You ever shot the floor
Is the machine room locked or unlocked?
Unlocked, but I didn't think it would be appropriate to just go in there without the shop owners permission. If they were to see us doing this, then this isn't really that respectful considering this was an arranged visit. But good news - they did allow us up there (part 2 coming next!)
@@mrmattandmrchay Phew!
They were very accommodating