7 of the DUMBEST NASCAR Controversies
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- NASCAR has always had controversy, it has been instrumental in both moving forward and showing what not to do over time. But in NASCAR history there have been quite a few dumb controversies that really do not seem like they needed to happen. So let us look back at 7 of the dumbest NASCAR controversies.
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What is the dumbest NASCAR controversy you can remember?
2021 New Hampshire
The 2022 All Star race
Kyle Busch giving the bird to the officials and them penalizing him for it...it's a mixture of kinda dumb and funny
The all star race of this yr
21 new hampshire nascar just gave into pressure from dale jr to screw over kyle Busch like they always do with calls
Of course the all star race as well
Brian France’s DUI has to take the cake. That’s something so avoidable and I argue it damaged more to the sport’s core than anything in the last fifteen years.
Brian France getting a DUI was the best thing that has ever happened to the sport. That fool had no interest in NASCAR and I am so glad he is gone.
@@ajdnascar24 Beneficial, I suppose. Stupid? Absolutely
Also it happened the night of Chase Elliott winning his first race at Watkins Glen, I was at that race and the morning after nobody really cared cuz of Brian France
Brian France was trying to kill Nascar. Good things never happen without pain. Ever since he left Nascar has slowly recovered and is in better shape then it was in 2018
@@randomcub922 oh he wasn’t trying. He was just so unfocused and incompetent that it was being ruined under his watch.
The two biggest NASCAR controversies I remember was:
NASCAR blaming Dale Earnhardt’s death on the failure of Simpson seat belts. It caused Bill Simpson to sell him company in shame when Dale’s death was a perfect storm of various things, including the major possibility that Dale had unbuckled his Simpson belts himself. Simpson would later start a new safety products company and many drivers that trusted Simpson products before followed Bill to his new company.
Next was Eel River Racing. Eel River was a small one car team that raced from 1999 to 2001. In 2001 they were without a sponsor and it was rumored that Crown Royal liquor had tentatively agreed to a sponsorship. NASCAR said no since they had never allowed hard liquor sponsorships. As a result the team shut down due to lack of money. The next season CR showed up on one of Jack Roush’s cars, which was the dominant Ford team at that time. It made NASCAR look like they only cared about the big teams and didn’t care about the “field fillers”.
The Eel Racing was a total sham. Racehub? Whatever show at the time covered it. Jayski had it. IT was all over and it was such a sham how they killed that deal then POOF. Jack needed a sponsor and suddenly Crown Royal was on his car and Jack Daniels was on RCR.
The LGB controversy would definitely have been avoidable if NASCAR didn't do frontstretch interviews
nascar and news media caused that issue
“Let’s go Brandon I agree”
Lets go Brandon would be avoidable if we didn't have a country ruining anti America president
It wasn't frontstretch interview or even the chant that was the issue. The issue was the NBC reporter outright lying about what the crowd was chanting.
@@redvue04 I've never blamed the reporter, it felt to me like she was trying to avoid it but the producers in her ear told her frantically to make something up or they directly fed her "lets go brandon" to cover it up since it was clearly audible
Phantom cautions on an almost weekly basis there for awhile was very detrimental to the sport and caused a lot of controversies.
This could be a cool video honestly.... most controversial phantom caution
This is why stages were brought in and we're still getting phantom/wildly inconsistent cautions
I agree. Though the only reason I gave it a pass was when they came back from the Covid hiatus, and there was no qualifying.
@@TrackMaster914 competition caution 20-ish laps into the race is fine. Unless that's not what you're talking about heh
@@doomusrlc Comp cautions should be gone away with imo. It's for early race adjustments, which is what practice for and they've ruined that. They just want more dumb segmented racing
Drunken Brian France had the name of that account LONG before the real guy got arrested. He's just mad because he fulfilled the prophecy.
Dumb controversy was Kasey Kahne 2014 Daytona 500. He was trying to dodge a wreck and entered pit road. He was penalized for something not his fault
One of the dumbest things to me is the crash clock. If the car can still run, just let them fix whatever the issue is without a time limit.
Truth, so what if they're 50 laps down, let them finish
As long as they can make minimum speed, yes
I think they deliberately did this after Kenseth totaled Logano's ass on purpose. But obviously that had nothing to do with the situation that occurred.
I get what NASCAR was/is trying to do with the crash clock, but it could be avoided by just not allowing teams to haphazardly attached entire body panels to the car after a crash. The team official on pit road should force the teams to make more adequate repairs and that would solve the problem. But as is the case most of the time, NASCAR took the lazy way out.
Disagree, one of the best things they ever ever done. Don’t know how many debris cautions or how many tire failures it caused. No needs for modifieds to run 50 laps down
Regarding the 2004 Jr. cursing controversy, considering that this was still in the aftermath of the Janet Jackson Super Bowl debacle, I bet NASCAR didn't want the FCC to throw a shitfit about Jr.'s words. So you could honestly blame current events for that one.
South Park's Good Times with Weapons always comes to mind with me there. They freaking threw a ninja star into Butter's eye but the parents didn't give a shit! They were more concern about Cartman walking across stage buck naked!
The Janet wardrobe malfunction was back in 2004? I feel so old.
I don’t know if you would call it a controversy but definitely a dumb call by NASCAR. 1990 Richmond when NASCAR fined and deducted points from Mark Martin over the engine spacer being welded instead of bolted. There was no advantage gained by that but penalty was still imposed. Yes I am salty because Mark lost that championship after the infraction but regardless of that has to be the stupidest penalty ever imposed by NASCAR.
I'm glad I'm not the only one thats still mad about that.
One of the dumbest to me was the Tabasco Fiasco, ISM were mismanaging the team, they had repeated DNQ's with their Tabasco sponsored #35 Pontiac. The team was sold to Tim Beverly just before Indianapolis in 1998 after ISM went through driver after driver (they had Tod Bodine, Wally Dallenbach, Gary Bradbury, Jimmy Horton and Loy Allen either attempting to qualify or running races after Bodine was fired after Sonoma). They brought in Darrell Waltrip after he had sold his own team to that same Tim Beverly and ran as a relief driver at DEI for Steve Park. The controversy really arose though after Waltrip drove the #35 Tabasco sponsored car at Indianapolis...which was run as a Chevrolette, not a Pontiac. Despite the fact that DW had a past champion's provisional, meaning that they would actually start the races, and the Chevy performed better than the Pontiac immediately, Tabasco sued the team as it not only wasn't the driver they invested in, Tod Bodine, but with the Chevy being run, it rendered their promotional material (featuring the Pontiac in a cook book amongst other promotional material) obsolete. To appease the sponsor, they switched back to the Pontiac and their performance suffered as a result.
How could this have been avoided? There are 2 ways to me, firstly, if Bob Hansher of ISM hadn't started the chain of events that dragged the sponsor through the mud, Tabasco wouldn't have backed out of the sport like they did. Equally, if the sponsor had been less particular about the type of car, then they would have enjoyed promotion of their product for better reasons than squabbling about the car featured in their promotional material
That wasn't really a NASCAR controversy, that was just a team and sponsor with both their heads up their own butts.
@@gth804f I suppose, but because the controversy played out in front of the NASCAR audience, that's why I mentioned it
Keep politics out as much as possible, but when it inevitably seeps in, keep it as balanced as it possibly can be
100% agree
Insert trump vote car
Am I the only one who thinks that "politics" is too vague of a term? Like, what would be considered "political?" Because people LOVE to apply it to everything, especially racism.
@@crystaljon well when one side decides it has to politicize every damn thing imaginable from sports to tragedy. It becomes hard to get away from it.
@John Lewis As much as it sucks to always be dealing with politics in NASCAR, I think we need to leave it as is.
We all know NASCAR wouldn't be able to be consistent with the way they operate, and the divide from that is worse than what we have now.
Dale Jr. swearing is a bit dumb considering that he just won the race and everyone says some stuff like that when they win something.
I swear that they just did that to ruin his championship momentum. I know that it was the Atlanta crash that did him in, but this was the beginning of the end.
Keep in mind it happened the same year as the Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction at the Super Bowl, which was a huge controversy, and TV was hyper vigilant in keeping a squeaky-clean image to the public. Jr swearing was a huge no-no at that time, which is why he got such a harsh penalty
@@Tristin471 I don't understand that logic. Wouldn't it be great for nascar for dale jr to win the championship? Why would they not want him to win?
Alls I have to say is Carl Edwards at the 2006 Bud Shootout
The dumbest controversy that fell under the radar was the Jeff Burton Cellular wireless Sponsorship Controversy.
It wasn't just AT&T, but also Motorola. That pretty much permanently killed off any chance of cellular sponsorship on NASCAR cars.
That drunk Brian France account was a must follow.
Denny Hamlin got fined by nascar after the 2013 Phoenix spring race for saying the gen 6 "isn't quite where it needs to be." Wasn't like he was Kyle Busch and said the cars flat out suck and that he can't stand to drive them.
Oh yeah I remember that, that shit was fucking stupid. He said nothing wrong.
Biggest one that comes to mind for me was Bubba in 2020...
The worst part about that whole incident is if he'd have just let it go after it was proven to not be a hate crime, he'd still be one of Nascar's most popular drivers. Instead, he doubles down to this day, it was. As someone who pulled for him for years before that happened, it really stings that he feels that way towards Nascar's fanbase.
@@ironpanther2420 not really. He's moved on.
@@ironpanther2420 He doesn’t give a shit about that day (which he never asked for, that was all NASCAR and the other drivers) its fans like you who use as an excuse to hold something against him that do.
amen
@@vidmasterK1 Agreed.
Tony Stewart vs Regan Smith Talladega Fall
hell even wally pointed out that carl lost positions not gained anything
Brandon Brown’s win at Talladega last year. It was his first win, it was supposed to be special but turned into a political catchphrase. That could of been avoided if the networks do interviews in victory lane like they supposed to.
Whenever that phrase is brought up and I find myself in or around the conversation I just use it as a perfect excuse to force the conversation into being about Brandon brown and him and his fathers accomplishments. Can make the convos awkward because the average American has no idea who he is lol.
also could have been avoided if the interviewer wasn't attempting a cheap diversion tactic to avoid the 'f joe biden' chants going on. She knew damn well what was being said, could have avoided it alltogether. Now, you can't even chant that towards ANYONE named Brandon without someone making a comment over it.
I think how dumb the controversies were is parallel to how much the media picked it up. So both the noose investigation and the front stretch interview at Talladega are really the dumbest in my opinion.
The noose thing wasn’t dumb. NASCAR and the other drivers did what they felt they needed to do to make Bubba Wallace feel safe. The reaction of certain “fans” is what was dumb.
@@TheSmokefan14TS It was dumb, they went public with a dramatic narrative before an investigation proved them all wrong.
@@jc1424 They could have handled that a lot better. They should have said it was “allegedly”. But hindsight is 2020. With the confederate flag just getting banned and people outside of the track waving Trump flags and saying defund NASCAR they were already in the mindset that some shit was about to go down. For Bubba’s sake I wish they had handled it better but I understand that it was more complex than that.
What about Carl Long getting fined $200,000 and banned from NASCAR for the engine being like .15 inches too big?
I think another dumb moment you missed was when Kasey Kahne got penalized for going down pit road to avoid a crash with Michael Annett at Daytona.
Oh, and Denny Hamlin being forced to delete the funny meme he posted on Twitter.
NASCAR "fans": Keep politics outta NASCAR!
Also NASCAR "fans": WOO! LET'S GO BRANDON!
Bro literally. It's fine to support but as soon as you call people out for being dicks suddenly politics aren't supposed to be a part of nascar. Ridiculous. The only opinions allowed are the ones supporting discrimination. On a better note lgb has only been heard at one race recently so maybe things will get better.
We don't know what we want is2g
There was so many people wearing or showing lgb merch at the tail end of the 2021 season, and all I could do was just think that these are the sake people who throw a fit when Bubba ran a BLM car or when NASCAR has a pride month post
@@DepravedCoTApologist yeah its truly insane
Dude get over it, it’s a meme.
Carl Edwards at the Bud Shootout:
Biggest screw job in Sports and/or Entertainment since 1997 in Montreal.
If you don't get the reference, just look on CZcams for the term "The Montreal Screwjob"..... I apologize for how many results come up. It IS the Zapruder Film of the 1990's.
You should talk in more detail about the "Start and Park" teams, and how some of them managed to progress.
BrockBeard has a series called Rise of the Field Fillers that talks about the individual teams from this era.
I honestly never watched pit bull
Personally I don't mind political figures at the race track. I know its all PR and stuff but they are if the president or governer is there I personally think its a big deal.
Pretty much. As much as I consider Abbott and Trump to be despicable, they are (or were) office holders at the time. I'd ... respect the office, if not the individual myself and not boo but definitely not cheer. (Unless they do something horrible at that moment in and of itself.)
Now, booing the First and Second Ladies? Why?
Sonoma in 1991 where Rudd spun Allison on the last lap and thought he won the race. Nascar penalized Rudd and gave it to Allison.
The Jeremy Mayfield controversy was pretty dumb and avoidable. I think this helped lead to the decline in the 2000s.
2022 All Star Race takes the cake
I like how you uploaded this at 7
I didn’t even realize till now, good catch!
@@TheIceberg Yeah. And All The Hate On Darrell Wallace Jr, Needs To End.
After Ricky Rudd won the race, but was disqualified for spinning out Dave Allison,, Something Logano does at every race, with no consequences.
Here are my top 10 worst NASCAR controversies
10. Ricky Rudd spinning Davey Allison for the lead on the final lap in 1991 at what was then called Sears Point Raceway and is now called Sonoma Raceway, and Rudd ended up not winning the race. This move has happened many times before and after, and that move by NASCAR has never happened before and since. Rudd's team was absolutely right in being angry at NASCAR.
9. Regan Smith disqualified of a win at Talladega in 2008 because he went below the yellow line. And this is coming from a Tony Stewart fan. While I was happy that Tony won at Talladega, I felt so bad for Regan Smith and that 01 team. At least he was able to get a single win at Darlington in 2011.
8. Kasey Kahne being penalized for speeding on pit road in the 2014 Daytona 500 when he was trying to avoid being wrecked by Michael Annett.
7. Buschwacking. The one that takes the cake was at the Milwaukee Mile in 2007 when Denny Hamlin won the race despite Aric Almirola starting the race. I feel like Almirola should have been in the car the whole time and Denny should have stayed at Sonoma.
6. The Wendell Scott story. Now I understand the whole dilema going on in the South in the 50s and 60s, and what NASCAR did was essentially right for the time. Wendell Scott was an African American driving for a racing tour that was essentially full of white drivers. Scott got his first and only career win at Jacksonville in 1964. Keep in mind that this was the 1960s South, and NASCAR was in a tough spot because they feared that if Scott had kissed the white trophy girl, there would be massive protests and riots going on all across the country. So they essentially "gave" the win to Buck Baker, who finished the race in second place. Scott would eventually be credited with a win, and the family would get the check and the trophy years later. It's an interesting story. But at the same time, I definitely feel like Scott definitely got screwed by having the second place finisher do the Victory Lane celebration.
5. Brett Bodine's win at North Wilkesboro Speedway in 1990. This screw-up essentially changed NASCAR scoring forever.
4. Carl Edwards getting screwed at the 2006 Budweiser Shootout. I really have nothing else to add on to that.
3. "Digger". For those that don't know what I'm talking about, in the late 2000s and early 2010s, NASCAR on Fox had a mascot in the form of a computer animated gopher. He was named "Digger", and was first used as Fox's corner turn camera. He was so popular that he was given his own set of shorts that would be played during the pre-race show, as well as toys and merchandising. While the character was popular with kids (sort of like Lightning McQueen), there was huge opposition with longtime fans, who felt the character was too goofy, and was essentially the start of NASCAR on Fox's decline in popularity. Because of this, the character began phasing out during the 2011 season and by the 2013 Daytona 500, it was no longer a thing.
2. Everything related to NASCAR and politics.
1. NASCAR not paying attention to driver's safety until the aftermath of Dale Earnhardt's death in 2001.
Politics should definitely be banned from NASCAR
To be honest, I've never seen the issue with start and parking. It seems kind of clever
The shots from the races in 2013, the cars look so much faster. It’s almost like we should bring back 900hp
The 2001 Winston. The whole field crashes due to rain as soon as they went into the turn
NASCAR made up for it though by basically restarting the race as if it never happened.
tbh if start and parking were still here, we would have so much more talent, teams, drivers, and people trying to qualify, which would have made the sport more competitive
The 2008 Talladega finish I still say they got that one right. I know that’s unpopular to say but they did. Smith was never alongside Stewart so how can it be forcing someone below? But I will say Hamlin Talladega 2020 absolutely should have been penalized for what he did. I will agree though keep politics out of nascar. That’s why mainly I don’t watch the nba anymore. They have gotten way too political for me
While they were not truly side by side Smith was nevertheless there. By the time Stewart threw the block Smith's left front was alongside Stewart's right rear. And had Smith kept his line, Stewart would have gotten turned.
The only question really is whether Smith should have stayed below the line for as long as he did. That'd be the only somewhat acceptable excuse to rid him of that win. But the way he got down there, he definitely got forced.
The only thing that makes me WANT to (but I don’t) disagree with you on the last one, is that many political figures in all parties are nascar fans, however, you’re 100% correct. We need to keep politics out of nascar. It sucks, cause yes, freedom of speech and whatnot but we need to stop the divide. Even tho I’m a left leaning center political person, I want to enjoy a race with my peers that maybe more right or left, authoritarian or libertarian, Trump or Biden supporters, and so on, so forth. Nascar has grown so much (especially since Brian France f*cked off), and we fans need to keep growing WITH the sport if we want it to survive.
Basically, the worst France started most of them, the TV networks ended some drivers careers, one coincided with Fox's infamous halftime show, another was sabotage, and the most recent: Texas
The "non"noose in Bubba Wallace's garage. It just wasn't what they made it out to be.
I heard that they found another at sonoma later that week and ive literally never heard anything about it since lol
Something like 22 FBI agents deemed it to be literally nothing, meanwhile Bubba goes on CNN and plays the victim card. I used to like Bubba till that bullshit happened.
@@tanderson6442 I remember rooting for him driving the Wendell Scott tribute truck at Martinsville and generally liking him until that weekend. Now he is by far my least favorite driver.
@@broney24 you do know according to main stream media aka the leftist media that would make us racist right?
@@tanderson6442 Oh, I know. I don't care. Calling someone racist has no meaning anymore.
Both Brandon Brown’s and Bubba Wallace’s controversies were the biggest ones. Brandon’s could’ve been avoided if NASCAR did victory lane interviews and Kelli Stavast didn’t create the now infamous quote. Bubba’s could’ve been avoided if NASCAR didn’t break the news before the completed investigation and it wasn’t stirred by the media. Although one controversy turned good, one did not.
@@johnhaas2523 I agree that the media would’ve eventually hear about it but the way that the media reported on it really helped create the controversy.
The PVC pipe to keep the winning drivers from climbing on the roof to celebrate in victory lane.
I thought I was the only one who remembered that one
I was at the 2021 Talladega race when Brandon Brown won.
In 2001 at the time Lowe’s motor speedway was gonna have NBC ejected from the track because in Qualifying NBC called the track Charlotte motor speedway and Humpy Wheeler was gonna ask CBS or ESPN to broadcast the race if NBC didn’t call it Lowe’s Motor Speedway.
The ending of the 2002 Daytona 500 is the dumbest one for me when it comes to NASCAR because Sterling Marlin should have not been sent to the back of the grid, even though what he did was quite dumb. A time penalty would have been better suited for that situation. Now as for the dumbest controversy in racing history it is a tie between the 25/8 rule for the 1996 Indy 500 that only fueled the CART vs IRL war that damaged open wheel racing in the US for 12 years & the 2005 US GP in F1 which is the 2nd worst race in F1 history behind last years Belgian GP.
In Nascar you aren't allowed to add fuel/change tires/make adjustments/repair damage to the car while under a Red Flag, which Marlin did when stopped on the backstretch, pulling on the fender is repairing damage which is why he was sent to the rear of the field, it's been a rule for awhile even before this incident.
Brandon Brown got fucked over with sponsors cause of the chat that is avoidable if NASCAR bring back Victory Lane Interviews. I really hate it for him I've been a follower of him, met him (great guy btw), great supporter wish he would get sponsors
Personally, I blame the people who decided LGB should be a right-wing meme and kept it going.
@@Qaianna Yeah.
The Spingate and gifting of a Chase berth to Jeff Gordon.
The worst part of trump being at the Daytona 500 was when he paced the field in the limo and delayed the start
probably the DVP if that counts. i get why they did it but at the same time, after this past 600, i feel like its a bit too strict. i say do a mercy rule, if a team that has damage goes more than say 5 -10 laps down depending on the track, then they get parked
Most of these took place when Brian France was in charge.
The inaugural race at Talledega (S1apSh0es has a video on it I think, or maybe it was you, can't remember) seems like a pretty big controversy
I can say hear people saying about the bubba situation in 2020
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Allowing cars to not have all the lug nuts on the wheels for a while
Obviously the politics is probably one of the most harmful controversies in recent memory. The least NASCAR can do is keep all politics out, but if they’re not, they need to be consistent with what they keep in.
You have the Texas nra race but Bristol night is the bass pro shop nra night race
The Dumbest things I can think of that is a controversy is The use of PJ1with NASCAR inventing this stuff and later too much and could have been avoided at most of these tracks by doing a tar blacktop to the tracks or a repave of the top most layer or a regrind on some rather then the PJ1. 90% of these tracks had to get repaved anyhow due to what PJ1 does to the surface over a few years, makes it so the track in untraceable by almost any form of motorsports except those that have rain tires or do dirt in the series as well as paved and then have to use the other tires at specific tracks when it is not wet or dirt just for safety and to not have major injury or major wreaks. A regrind or a top layer pave is the best option even a blacktop tar would work, not a stupid overuse of PJ1 that has caused some tracks to be shut down for other racing like Texas or even Nashville Speedway though to be fair, Amazon is not letting trucks leave a track they do not own.
Mainly it ruined Texas but also messed up Phoenix Motor Speedway as well as a few others including Nashville.
One I can think of is the 2022 All-Star race at Texass Motor Speedway and the double yellow line rule at super speedway tracks.
Carl Edwards quit NASCAR because he was leading the race by at least half a lap and a Phantom Caution came out and he ended up finishing 2nd. NASCAR manipulated the results of the race.
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He out here showing the clip of Kentucky making me get in my feels cause we don’t got a race no more. 😔
1998 "Tire Gate" (Jack Roush vs. Hendrick Motorsports/Dupont)
As a total coincidence at 4:03 it cut to a Charmin toilet paper ad lmao
There was also the controversy that a man committed suicide via firearm in the infield during the NRA 500 as well
Matty D and Denny at talladega. If they gave that win to Denny they need to give Reagan Smith his win back.
Anyone remember the controversy a few years ago about the airguns on pit road?
I thought the penalty Nascar gave Carl Edwards in 2006 during the Budweiser shootout was dumb
The change of the points system, sure, maybe not a controversy per say, but if i remember correctly, they weren't to happy with a grey mouse like Kenseth winning the title. After that, they kept changing the format over and over again into something that resembles mario kart more.....
OT: I'm usually not a fan of changing just the base color of a paint scheme and calling it anything special, but the silver Cael Edwards Aflac car looked good. Was that c. 2009?
Keeping politics out is one thing, but what if a politician decided to attend a race on their own volition and not make a big deal about it? Sure the media would be all over them but there are ways to keep that to a minimum. They're people too, shouldn't they get to enjoy a good race every now and then?
So like the way Ronald Reagan did it and Jimmy Carter at Atlanta during his governor years?
Unfortunately, the reality is that for some politicians going to an event in and of itself has to be a big deal. Joe Biden going to anywhere less secure than the White House is going to draw massive police protection, and woe betide any fan who accidentally spills a beer on the presidential jeans. Don't know if a governor needs as much security, but there will be some just in case someone at the event decides to try to vote with their fist.
Getting a new sponsor for any race is as simple as just getting a new sponsor. There are several layers and by the time the race name is announced, many of those layers have been filled in some way.
In similar fashion to Edwards, Kasey Kahne being penalised for avoiding a wreck by going too fast on pit road
Always love your videos brother...below the yellow line controversy is the stupidest one to me great video choice..Iean subjest
Three words: phantom debris cautions.
Kurt giving Michelle Obama’s SUV that was blocking his garage stall is GOAT material
I frickin HATE the below the bs yellow line rule.
We need a part 2
Best part of the whole video is hearing Michelle and Jill get booed
In my honest opinion it shouldn't be frowned apon for a president or governor to attend a race, however it is what is said about it that should change. It shouldnt be made such a big deal of and talked about too much.
The 2018 Xfinity race at Daytona that Justin Haley clearly won, but was stripped of, and given to Kyle Larson. "Names are made here", yet NASCAR chose to split hairs over the yellow line rule, and award the win to a Cup driver racing for his Cup team owner. I haven't tuned in to a NASCAR race since.
I’m from Russia, and I can’t watch nascar:(because of politics
I remember when the that in 2011. Still funny as he** to this day 😂😂
The 2019 Daytona race that Haley won and the aftermath was all ridiculous. Kurt Busch was rightfully pissed, but Haley if I remember correctly got death threats for the whole thing and he did nothing wrong. For what, winning a rain shortened race? Yes. The dirt bristol race this year was also a shitshow because they got delayed twice for rain and never called it despite poor track conditions, screwing Daniel Suarez out of his first career win
When it comes to politics in nascar, I think that's a complicated topic. Greg Abbott being at the Texas All Star Race makes sense, he's the Governor of Texas after all. In 2011 when Michelle Obama and Jill Biden were there for the championship race, they're the first and second lady, I think they can show up to races if they want. Just politicians need to know that if they show up to a race they have to accept the fact that they might be booed.
"Keep politics out of nascar," you say? Kind of hard when the whole premise of the sport was generated by giving a big middle finger to the 18th amendment. Really, really, REALLY hard to be more political than that. A shine runners dick measuring contest. Kind of makes me sick when they drop a driver at the first sign of any legal issues, when you think about how the kind of people whom founded and were the original backbone of the sport ALL BEING FELONY WORTHY, or at he very least, on the wrong side of the law.
Now what people really mean, but are too chickenshit to say, is that they want you to keep politics they dont agree with out of nascar. It is not any more complicated than that. A lot of the same people who have been trying their best to pretend that, 'let's go Brandon' actually meant, 'let's go Brandon'/nothing at all for the past 9 months are the first to cry foul about politics they are conditioned to not agree with.
i do see your point of view. and completely understandable. but NASCAR isnt moonshine running anymore its changed progressively. id rather politics in general get kept out of sports it will piss alot of people off but at the same time i dont really care whats on the car i care about how the driver DRIVES. i hate Bush Light Beer, never used Mobil 1, never heard of Hunt Brothers Pizza, but i love the way he drives
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It may not be any controversy, but covering Bristol with dirt ranks among the STUPIDEST things ever.
Let’s also not forget tge 2001 All Star when they allowed back up cars after a caution on lap 1 due to Rain.
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It should also be mentioned that the commentators even thought it was stupid and even called it out as “i don’t get it, he LOST positions” during the broadcast
Honestly the comments on NASCAR's last post on IG are more entertaining than the racing itself
Let’s go Brandon was so avoidable
However it is one of the best memes of this presidency
I want NASCAR to stay as far from politics as they can, but I have nothing wrong with a US President attending a race I think it is good that Trump came to the Daytona 500 and it would be good if Biden does too. I am less okay with other politicians, but I think the line should be between elected and unelected politicians.
I wish politics weren't so big of an issue just from a person's face being there. Random senators or governors, sure, don't allow them, but we should at least be able to have the POTUS at one of very few sports that are only in America. Maybe don't even allow them to speak, just let them wave a flag or drive the pace car or whatever and that's it. Maybe even only at the 500.
No matter what side you're on or where you are in between, you should be able to appreciate the face of America being present for "The Great American Race."
To me, it's more symbolic than anything else. I understand at the end of the day it probably is just a PR stunt especially if it's in an election year, but come on. I'll respect any president that shows up for The Great *American* Race. It wouldn't sway my vote, but it'll at least let me know that hey, they like America and they want to be there to enjoy an American spectacle with other Americans.
Life lock 400 how could we forget that
To be fair to Jr and the 2004 Dega one...
Weren't the TV networks hands tied by the FCC's rules on what can or can't be said live on TV? Jr was emotional, yes but you don't, well, fuck about with the FCC though and their morality standards.
Also I'd argue 2003 Daytona, Marlin had the same reason as Edwards, he went below the yellow line to avoid slamming into a slow car and got black flagged for it. Or to quote Ken Squier... Marlin was seeeing red over a flag colored black
The dumbest has to be the reporter claiming the fans were chanting "lets go brandon!" 🤣
Wait, so you're telling me that the fans are the reason the hated charter system 😂😂😂
I actually never knew that that was their reasoning (and it really seems to be working). I didn't like it either, but ya gotta what ya gotta do. It's totally _not_ the all the dumb gimmicks faults for the continuing decline that the higher-ups won't admit
the double line rule is nascars tuck rule