Ireland and the Druids
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- In a follow up to a previous video on this channel, we take a deep dive into the Druids of Irish mythology, and contrast them not only with their brethren on Britain and Gaul, but with later accounts by Church writers in the early medieval period.
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Sources:
General Resources:
Anne Ross (1999) Druids. Tempus Publishing Ltd.
Brent Miles (2011) Heroic Saga and Classical Epic in Medieval Ireland (Studies in Celtic History). D.S.Brewer.
Chris Lynn (2003) Navan Fort: Archaeology and Myth. Wordwell.
Clare Downham (2017) Medieval Ireland. Cambridge University Press.
Daibhi O Croinin (2016) Early Medieval Ireland 400-1200. Routledge. 2nd Edition.
Daniel Curley and Mike McCarthy (2018) Rathcroghan: The Guidebook. KPW Print Management.
Fergus Kelly (1988; revised 2016) A Guide to Early Irish Law. Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies.
J. P. Mallory (2015) The origins of the Irish. Thames and Hudson Ltd.
J. P. Mallory (2016) In search of the Irish dreamtime: archaeology & early Irish literature. Thames and Hudson Ltd.
John Waddell (2010) The Prehistoric Archaeology of Ireland. Wordwell. 2nd Edition.
John Waddell (2014) Archaeology and Celtic Myth. Four Courts Press Ltd.
Kim McCone (2000) Pagan Past and Christian Present in Early Irish Literature. Maynooth Monographs 3.
Miranda J. Green (1997) Exploring the world of the Druids. Thames and Hudson Ltd.
Philip Freeman (2001) Ireland and the Classical World. University of Texas Press.
Philip Freeman (2014) The World of Saint Patrick. Oxford University Press.
Ronald Hutton (2009) Blood and Mistletoe: The history of the Druids in Britain. Yale University Press.
Roy Flechner and Sven Meeder (2016) The Irish in Early Medieval Europe: Identity, Culture and Religion. Palgrave.
Academic Papers:
A. Sherwood (2009) An Bó Bheannaithe: Cattle Symbolism in Traditional Irish Folklore, Myth, and Archaeology. PSU McNair Scholars Online Journal, 3 (1), 21.
B. Raftery (1978) Excavations at Killycluggin, County Cavan. Ulster Journal of Archaeology, 3(41), 49-54.
J. O’Driscoll, P. Gleeson & G. Noble (2020) Re-imagining Navan fort: New light on the evolution of a major ceremonial centre in Northern Europe. Oxford Journal of Archaeology, 39 (3), 247-273.
J. Waddell (1983) Rathcroghan: A Royal Site in Connacht. The Journal of Irish Archaeology, 1, 21-46.
A. T. Lucas (1972) Prehistoric Block-Wheels from Doogarymore, Co. Roscommon, and Timahoe East, Co. Kildare. The Journal of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland, 102 (1), 19-48.
R. Darcy & William Flynn (2008) Ptolemy's map of Ireland: a modern decoding. Irish Geography, 41 (1), 49-69, DOI: 10.1080/00750770801909375.
R. Schot (2006) Uisneach Midi a medón Érenn: a prehistoric 'cult' centre and 'royal site' in Co. Westmeath. The Journal of Irish Archaeology, 15, 39-71.
T. Shingurova (2018) The Story of Mog Ruith: Perceptions of the Local Myth in Seventeenth-Century Ireland. Proceedings of the Harvard Celtic Colloquium, 38, 231-258.
Additional Details of Irish Mythology taken from:
Patricia Monaghan (2004) The Encyclopedia of Celtic Mythology and Folklore. Facts on File Inc.
celt.ucc.ie/ - Free resource for Irish history, literature and politics.
BBC Interview link - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-29785031
Amazing video!!! Thank you so much!!!!!! Keep up the great work! Much love from the U.S.A. 🇺🇸
This is the best video I have seen from a British perspective trying to tackle the druids. Everything else I have seen pretty much ignores Ireland as the best contemporary example of what the druids in Britain may have been like. As an Irish person with a strong interest in this period, I find much of the so called 'celtic' interpretations of historians on CZcams to be speculative at best. They seem to look strongly at the Roman accounts, but ignore the elephant in the room that is Ireland right beside them which continued it's existence in the same way for a long time after as the best example of what their own country was likely to have been like and functioned. My only real issue with your video is that although toward the end you have mentioned the best evidence for the influence of the droai on Irish society - The Brehon Laws, I don't think you acknowledged just how far back these laws go and just how much input the droai would have had in them. The Brehon Laws were written down by the Celtic Chrurch in Ireland in the 7th century and were obviously edited, expelling anything that did not agree with the church, they were by their nature ancient in origin and tell us the most about the structure of Irish society in which the droai inhabited. They were recorded orally and by their nature it is clear they were developed over a long period of time through tiral and error being altered and perfected over time. The monks merely wrote them down rather than inventing a perfect law system by which the country would now steer itself by. What I am saying is that the church gets the credit for writing them down, but certainly not composing them. From these laws we can see at least from a second hand source, just how the brehons who came from the druidic class functioned within Irish society. The droai were a broad class which included poets, musicians, judges and magicians. The laws themselves tell us a huge amount about the society in which they were consulted as go betweens during disputes. We are told it was their duty to keep record of these laws. This tells so much more practical evidence of real life influence of the droai than the mythology. It is a fascinating subject. Great video though. So much better researched than all the dross on CZcams about the subject. Your Irish language pronunciations are off in places which gave me a chuckle, but in others they are spot on and better than some I have seen :) . Well done!
Where's the art from in the thumbnail?
Really good as usual, thanks!
Per head of cap Ireland is Number 1 in the world for charity worldwide. Just aswell yee found us pagans and Druids. We've come along way. Great video, thanks so much. 👍👍👍🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
So good to see someone citing sources and providing such detailed discussion instead of the usual glib, ill informed “documentaries” on CZcams. Thank you.
Oof looks like a few more video editing errors crept into this one than I'd realised when I put it up, apologies folks. Next one will be smoother.
Bro you make 2 hour videos that I love sitting through every time don’t even worry ab it
Nonsense! Love your vids!!!
Love your videos bro don’t worry about it
No issues. Cool info and presentation. No apologies necessary. Thanks for your great work.
Thank you for your hard work I really enjoyed it
Being a fan of the longer format, this channel fits me fine. Must respect the time and effort put into these videos, sub.
At about an hour in, I would point out that myths can change in details to match the medieval period as they're retold through succeeding generations. That doesn't mean the substance or kernel can't be older. I'm not saying it's older, but we cannot dismiss it because the weapons and such used in the myths match the medieval period in which the myths are recorded
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While true, the problem is that that makes it impossible to identify which bits are original and which were changed.
Wow ,there's almost the exact same culture in Iran, Daruids/Darwish with long beards and all those special clothes just wondering around and singing old stories
@@conortrotter5755wrong etymology
@@conortrotter5755what's your evidence?
@@conortrotter5755 Ériu and ērān have completely different and unrelated etymologies. They sound kind of similar but that's the extent of their connection.
Canaanites? The scots too, to my understanding. Interesting. Very.
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Do they drink a lot of Guinness?
I live in the North of Ireland, I recently visited a place called portmuck. There is a rock formation called the Druids Alter. Definetly worth a visit
Where abouts is this? Also in northern Ireland 🖐️
@Sully and Mike it's a place called druids altar, islandmagee.
@@rorywoods2144 thank you, must plan a day trip there
@@sullyandmike188 Not a problem. there's plenty of hidden gems around our little county
@@rorywoods2144 also giants ring in Belfast is a good one, and if you head in County Down there’s plenty of passage tombs and cairns near, castlewellan, rostrevor, dundrum etc……a quick google will bring up tonnes of them, exactly right, could spent weeks exploring the Stone Age history of norn iron.
Absolutely love these long form documentaries of yours, thank you for making them.
It's obvious how much effort and research you've put into your work. Thank you for your perfection!
I wish I could go back in time and listen to a Druid tell a story from Irish mythology. I bet they were great storytellers.
There are loads of good books to read on the Irish myths
@@katimurray626 another myth is us irish are great story tellers,most of us are disinterested morbid fuckers😝
Still, an interesting comment and good wish.
@@katimurray626 can you recommend a couple?
@@solomon_doors Aye Thomas a good starting place would be the Ulster Cycle.
Been a long time coming, can't wait to watch. Congrats dude on finishing this surely awesome video
The fact you added so many accessible sources earns a subscription. Thank you for teaching.
I like that when you speak of something that isn't properly sourced, that you point that out instead of simply letting conjecture run rampant. Well done video. Thank you.
Very comprehensive, and kept my interest. I've read Mallory's "Dreamtime".
The problem of the complexity of Irish mythology compared to the paucity of Irish archeology partially originates in stories.
They possess the longest, fastest, and most persistent legs from among all those traveling cultural elements.
The persistence of the stories in Ireland is born of the same isolation that deprived their oral custodians of the (Gaulish) material culture the stories describe.
44:23 Harper holding harp backwards. Watch that Victorian fantasy art.
I've only just found this channel, I'm delighted. This is the best history channel I've ever seen.
It is good isnt it. History hit TV, stephan milo, and the peoples profiles are some other good history channels on CZcams.
Absolute history, fall of civilisations, tasting history, medieval madness, history's forgotten people, chronicles are also great channels
@@hesterwright3674 thanks. Will check them out
Well done and thank you, this is so comprehensive and a lot of it's content brought, for the 1st time to the public arena, which puts other historians and doco makers to shame.
It's interesting about the accounts of Ireland, how incomplete or inaccurate they were, yet were pronounced and I'm assuming accepted as fact in these authoritative works about the world. It makes me wonder how incomplete and/or inaccurate our modern understanding of the world and universe may be, what we're taking for granted as unequivocally true and real, as did the scholars of the ancient world? But then, how do you even know what's real anyway? Excellent documentary!!!
The entire history of the world is hidden… the buildings are much older then they tell us …
you do god's work my friend(s), I was just thinking in the past weeks of how I wished to learn more of the druids, but I thought there was nothing to learn besides Tacitus accounts of Divicacius' accounts. thank you so much for the work you do.
Read about the Tribes of Levi, we came from the Tribes of Israel, who were white.
@@melysacathcartcallrightsre4577 such a strange comment.
@@dayofthejackyl Druids are the Levites across Europe.
My grandma told me about the tree, which is at the entrance of our house, she said that anyone who harms the tree, those that are not from the family, they come across harm from mysterious forces. A lady peed against the tree and she got smacked in the head and turned blind. There were other examples my grandmother gave, but they're not fresh on my mind
@Jeff Robinson r/atheism
Sounds like dark witchcraft which makes sense. The Celts spilt from the other Germanic tribes when they were led astray by an evil priestess.
The Oera Linda Book describes how/why this happened.
Lady pee on a tree? Not as easy as said. Ridiculous story.
@@koninginvictoria celts never split from Germanic tribes they are both of proto indo European origin but neither split from one each other
@@Comuniity_ wouldn't they have split from each other during their proto-indoeuropean past? Like they became differentiated from each other from that common root... is that what is typically meant by "split from"? In this case, there was a story referenced that indicates they were mutually aware of the Germans and made a deliberate splitting off rather than something being the effect of geographical distribution and time.
I imagine their could be followers that migrated from a common protoindoeuropean origin who left and eventually became the celts and settled differentially from those who became the Germanic tribes.
I don't think Ive ever been as excited about a youtube video as I am about Druids 2 : Irish boogagloo
Get a life.
A very high quality documentary, my respect to you sir. Thank you for sharing it.
Brilliant! I've been waiting for this! Excellent work as always!
Thank you fir a professionally presented, narrated video. And for acknowledging credits to others who enabled its inception.
Outstanding as always; really appreciate your work!
I just found your channel today through your first druid history video. I was overjoyed to find out part 2 is already out! Thank you!
These are why you're one of my favorite channels. Longform, indepth documentaries are interesting to me and you have perfected the art!
Thank you.
I just wish these were about three times the length.
Ahw hell yeah been waiting for this!! So excited to get into this tonight after a smoke! Always great content!
I'm so fucking hyped right now, I have fever am dehydrated and cook curry and will stay awake today listening about druids like a kid same as two years ago.
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Hey! New video! Nice to see the second Druids video out. Keep the great content coming!
I subbed and will watch this (in full) tomorrow.
I'm only chiming in, here to mention that "Ireland and The Druids" would be a KILLER band name.
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I love these videos! Usually watch/listen while doing housework. Makes me feel doubly productive.
I appreciate that you really did try to pronounce the Irish language words properly. You did a great job. Well done ❤️
I'm confused by this comment. I opened the comments to see if anyone had offered help on pronunciation in future, but then I see this upvoted praise for not even trying. He switches between Maeve and Meeve, come on. That's so easy even Americans can do it. Like, I can forgive mispronouncing actual Irish, but he even mispronounces "Ulster", "Munster", and "Leinster". Those are current names that google will tell you how to say. Two seconds of effort per word would be nice.
Not that great.
Giving us so much in the detail of the historical value here in Ireland where it still remains both a strong Christian society and mystical ..always magical.
Thankyou for this podcast..your hard work is appreciated...☘
Yeah its awesome , but what the narrator says. Most of the history that is recorded are myths or speculation at this point. Its to bad 12 000 Astroid hit the earth. We lost most of our history. In morroco in a cave they found a bone from a homo sapien, 300 000 years old. We lost more 90 procent of our history.
Irealnd does not have a strong christian society anymore most of us have rightly gotten that shit out of our lives
@@vallgron dunno that 80% Catholic statistic speaks otherwise mate
@@pyrrhusofepirus8491 yeah 2016 it was its jumped all the way down to 45% in 2021
@@pyrrhusofepirus8491 I think he means that the Catholic Church doesn’t have the same influence it used to have in Ireland. Back in the day it basically caused economic ruin in the 50s.
Babe wake up, new Histocrat just dropped.
Druids was a video that made me binge every video on this channel.
It's finally here. Thank you for the hard work.
I'm beyond excited for this!
I was so excited for this when you mentioned it on the podcast, glad it’s here already
Amazing video!!! Thank you so much!!!!!! Keep up the great work! Much love from the U.S.A. 🇺🇸
I’m a Catholic American with Irish roots and I’ve taken time to memorize old Irish stories like Cuchulain or Fionn, despite me being Catholic the fact Druids had the ability to memorize every single word of their history and stories never ceases to amaze or inspire me
In my culture those who memorized used a plant called brahmi or bacopa monnieri (sometimes called gotu kola but careful in europe lots of bacopa are named gotu kola) . Make a tea with a teaspoon of crushed FRESH leaves (80°c water very important) brew it for 5 to 10 minutes and sip once to twice a day as you're working on memorizing stories. The effects can be seen as early as 3 weeks but a more realistic timing is 6 months. You must be consistent over the course of multiple years but it does work!! Hope this helps you because the work you are doing is important to keep your culture alive! Transmit it when you can.
Neophyte Druid recruits were carefully chosen for their talents in memory.poetry the apprenticeship being at least 10yrs of intensive tutorship and learning.
dude you make legit good content and your voice is really pleasant to listen to. Keep up the good work, im most definitely staying around!
Credit given where credit is deserved. This podcast provides as much or more information than one would receive in a doctoral program. And the voice is obviously human not robotic. 🎉
Amazing! Absolutely amazing. Almost two and a half hours. I can't wait to get into this
I wish I could find a woman or goddess like you that would actually watch this... you're one in a million... 💔💔💔💔🧝🏼♀️💔💔💔💔
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This is CZcams gold. So glad the algorithm brought me here!
comment for the algorithm 🙏 I always look forward to new Histocrat videos, super professional and comprehensive as always!!
First day of vacation and a new histocrat video? Perfect
I have been waiting so long for this
I Thank you, this is easily one of the most informative video's about Druids, and much more.
And it is just fun to watch! :)
My family is from southern Ireland. Cork/Waterford area. Though I do have ancestors in Dublin as well but theyre not documented. Were almost all in Canada now. Immigrated during the famine. My name roughly translates to "painted warrior priest" so I have always wondered if there were druids in my family lineage somewhere.
So happy you could find some of your family story. My family migrate in the mid 1800’s to West Virginia. We came to America and given the surname Orahood, now there’s hundreds of versions of the name from Airhud, Orchard to Orahuud variants. Best luck on your journey.
Oh yes please!!!! Thank you so much!!! I’m gonna enjoy this!!! ❤️🙏
Amazing historical research. Thank you.
I absolutely adore this channel! ❤
love these! great job!
About the heroic cycles, I have no doubt that those were composed in the Iron Age, since the irish are an indo-european culture, and share many similarities in their societies and religion to their indo-european brethrens. Just as the greeks are portrayed in the Iliad, the irish would've behaved the same in open battlefield as presented in the Táin. For sure, since the tales were writen in the Middle Ages, there has to be some anachronism... that happens in the Iliad too.
Greeks and Phoenicians (Jews/Celts) settled in Ireland and Scotland as well as the Netherlands, bringing with them their Astrological Zodiac, and worship of the Solar Lunar Calendar. That's why the myths all ring the same, even the period of training for a Druid, 19 years, ie a metonic cycle, is found in the cycle of the Phoenix, found in Egyptian, Jewish, Assyrian, and Hindu traditions.
Celts, Jews, Phoenicians, Egyptians, and Assyrians all share the same new year celebration on the Fall Equinox, the Festival of Trumpets. Their traditions all recount the passage of the Moon through the Zodiac with a 13 lunar month year every second year, hence Jesus and his 12 disciples, and Arthur and his 12 Knights. Seeing as Zero was not a thing until 3BC.
In fact the alignments found at the Bru na Boinne, and their associated traditions reflect those found in Egypt, Babylon, and Christianity, the Christian cross being found in Europe long before it became the Cross of Baal, the Cross of Tyre, Capital of Phoenicia, whose name means Rock, and sits just offshore from Urshu Shalom, City of Peace, or City of the New Moon.
Israel too is the Phoenician's word for Saturn, or El, Fruit of Isis and Ra, otherwise known a Horus, and Hercules, Pan, and Cernunnos, Og to the Celts.
The same Og is referenced in Byblos, associated with Hephaestus and Aegypticus, Khasekhemwy, first Pharoah of Egypt, a Giant associated with Orion and Taurus, and the Silver Gate, just like Osiris. Isis in turn rides atop Taurus the Bull as Pleiades, at 33 degrees.
Enoch too recounts visiting a Crystal Palace, illuminated by the Full Moon every 19 years, consistent with New Grange in the Bru na Boinne
@@uncannyvalley2350
Oh no, not this shit again.
Originally occupied by the Atlantians in some tales.
Irish hail Arya. They are NOT European nor are they Indo-European.
@@clarissawalker5210
Oh no, another of these lunatics.
Outstanding work. Well done.
Falling to sleep while listening to these has been some of the best sleeps i've had for a while!
Yes I was falling asleep also,druids existed but they did not like writing,they preferred to keep their knowledge exclusive,in their minds,oh no I'm falling asleep again,zzzzzzzz
Clicked on this straight away, what a pleasant surprise, thanks.
Excellently researched and leaving aside much of the romantic notions of past and current views on the Druids.
I was actually watching the original video a few months ago! glad to see more quality content on this subject!
So much amazing information this doc, well done!
Great video, keep up the great work 💪💪💪
Excellent. Really Really enjoyed it. Thank you .
Its the mystery of the droods. They all have an attitude.
This was a wonderful video. Thank you for your work
one of the best videos I've ever watched, so intriguing
Yay. Awesome. Just finished your Medusa podcast
the leyendecker prints.... those are some of my favorite works, so glad to see them pop up here
always great work! Thanks Histocrat
Brilliant, inspiring scholarship, great presentation, visual, everything. Extremely impressive. I am learning so much from this video... just starting my second run-through now1 Fascinating.
The sheer amount of information in this video is impressive
1:48:30 love these kind of legends
Now this is what I subscribed for.
Also, please finish the Punic wars documentaries.
Thank you Sir, Druids indeed marvelous and so well done and produced, you also have a lovely voice. I adore all the glorious art work it really captures my imagination and the fragments of ancient manuscripts, text right there on the screen, heavenly. I am sure I will have interesting dreams tonight. I appreciate you, many happy trails. Geraldine
Props to him for working on his rhotacism. It's a hard thing to overcome.
Hughes to Hughes
Thank you so much for this.
Brilliantly done. God Bless The Histocrat
Very well done, loved it ❤!
I am so thankful for your work on this! As an Irish Pagan myself I really appreciate the amount of detail and nuance you put in this!
thank you, for sharing your documentaries 😄
Fantastic content. New subscriber right here
Great work. Absolute champion.
1:29:05 that sheep on the right is having the time of their life
Roly polies, great craic 😂🐑🐏🐩
i live for new uploads so i can listen to the same one for weeks while i fall asleep; i never remember what was said. it’s the gift that keeps on giving!!
Cute 🤗
I biked all through Ireland when I was younger and I remember dozens of Cairns all over the place. I would camp near them, wondering who built them.
Ireland seems like a cool place to live, especially because of the ancient and medieval ruins you could see.
Local farmers mostly .
@@devinsmith4790 like pretty much anywhere in the eastern hemisphere.
Good stuff is this...better than the other stuff on youtube. And the stuff that crops up later doesn't have to be shorter.
Great video! Thank you.
Thank you. I appreciate your efforts.
Wonderful. I think this one will require a couple re-watches to fully digest all the information presented. Lovely visuals & musical score.👍
Really enjoyed. thank you.
Well done mate. Cheers.
Beautifully done!❤
Who else couldn't wait for this to come out?
Excellent work 👍
This is gonna be a good one
ANOTHER VIDEO?!!?
You spoil us
this the shit I live for, thank you Histocrat
Hhhhh I'm so pumped for this vid 😱🥳❤
Brian O’Pooh & Billy O’Tigger ☘️ Amazing depiction of our ancestors
dafuq lol
Outstanding, thank you
I love your professionalism, and it makes me sad to learn how little we know about the beliefs and legends of the Celtic people. Almost anything can be a medieval invention. Same with ancient nordic religion unfortunately.
I consider it a blessing. We are closer to each other now
I agree, the Norse and Gaels and so on, are not the barbarians they are stereotyped to be.
Remember that even th medieval versions of these folklore's would still have been rooted in the people's earlier beliefs. They may have changed, drifted and transformed, but don't let anyone tell you that their folklore is 100% fabricated
I saw the notification from The Histocrat
I got happy
Just that simple
Two videos in a month? What is going on?