There's never WRONG in communication. If someone else understands what you mean, then it's right! People policing others' grammar, vocabulary etc are the worse... :$
Yeah and I agreed with you because some states have different sign language for a same word. I am from Rochester, NY. So, when I came to Gallaudet University as the first year student, some of them criticized my sign language, but I told them that they can’t tell me what to do because of my habit in sign language where I practically sign ASL there. You know that many students at Gallaudet always they were/are right and were big heads especially they came from their deaf families. I am from my hearing family. I used to date a deaf guy long time ago and when I sign “it sounds good”, but he criticized me because he because he said “sounds” for hearing people and “looks” for deaf people. I told him that it was my sign language, not his. Typically he is from his deaf family. One time I sign Austin (Texas) with an A alphabet on my shoulder to a friend from Austin and he didn’t like it because he said that the sign for Austin as same as the sign language of my hometown. I insulted (in a nice way) that it was from Rochester and I also told him that some states have different sign language for Austin and others. He didn’t give me a damn. My very good friend, however, stood up for me as he told him that I was right that some states had their own sign language. Well, you know how big head Gallaudet was/is, but I still love Gallaudet because of my good memories there. Deaf people in Rochester never criticized my sign language when I sign in Gallaudet’s “sign language” every time I flew up to Rochester from Washington, DC for Thanksgiving and Christmas. Oh well…. By the way, I understood that the show at Gallaudet on November 11th was cancelled and has been postponed. So, will you please give me the certain date, so that I can buy 2 tickets? Thanks!
Hey, your sign for ‘closet’ means ‘to greet’ in Israeli Sign Language… I’m not Deaf myself, but I know there are regional differences between signs here in Israel as well. For example, the sign for ‘Syria’ in Tel-Aviv is close to the word for ‘sugar’ (which looks kinda like the ASL sign for ‘sweet’), because in Hebrew, ‘Syria’ is סוּרִיָּה _SOO-ree-yuh_ and ‘sugar’ is סֻכָּר _sook-KAR_ (rough approximation of pronunciation), but in Haifa, it indicates the two stars on the Syrian flag. Deaf linguist and sign language interpreter Doron Levy demonstrates this here: czcams.com/video/wD-owFlzFgc/video.html There are other differences, some more minute than others (like a slight difference in palm orientation and things like that), but from what I’ve seen there’s a process of dialect levelling in the language.
I totally get you on that one. I'm a midwesterner deaf and around here we would put one flat palm hand and do the "C" sign against the palm hand but move it around like it was a opening and closing door and that's how I signed closet, and many of my midwestern deaf friends also signed it that way. so when I first found out how people sign it differently I was like "huh, that makes no sense, why do you sign it that way?" but I wouldn't say they were wrong. I agree on it just being a regional thing.
The sign I grew up using for CAT, and I'll never stop using it haha. CODA from PNW. Also all my signs are really old fashioned! Though I try to learn the new ones, I hang out with a lot of old folks haha. I was at a doctor's appointment with my Deaf dad who is in his 70s and he kept frowning at the interpreter not understanding what she was signing. I had to intervene with the two-handed initialized C tape reel sign for COMPUTER. You know it's an old sign when it comes from the time when computers with less processing power than our modern phones took up entire rooms!! (I do still tend to sign PHONE the y handshape old handset way.)
I was born HoH in the US Midwest but grew up speaking English in hearing culture I've been learning ASL as an adult through a mix of talking to people around me and the internet I have no idea what sign accent I have 😅
Haha, feel you. I had Gally criticize my signs too and still do at work that is full of deaf people with strong ASL signing, been there. Miss ya, my jersey amigo :)
I learned ASL many, many years ago and still use our old regional signs. For example, the sign I use for "what" looks like the sign most people use for "where" and the sign I use for "where" is what most people use for "what". I've actually found those signs in an ASL dictionary from many, many years ago.
I noticed there was accent with alot of signs, grass, cookies, brother, sister and other signs. I had others asked me why the signs were different. I explained is alot like accents, like east coast they say battray, for batteries we say here on the west coast. It's not wrong it's just said differently.
Accent.. Exactly. I've met many people from different places.. Their ASL are not quite the same because of ACCENTS. I wouldn't change anything where I am coming from... MY ACCENT.
Exactly! My roommate signs pay attention like I just one word sign pay attention as attention so she signs two words pay attention as pay attention. I was puzzled what? And little criticized her then now I understand why she doing this cuz she used to this signs with her parents. They just used like home signs and some signs. So I respect her. It’s her accent. Is that cool!
my sign is no, i always sign it as a two finger pinch with an inward flick of the wrist as I sign, but apparently most ppl just pinch. i grew up HoH but my mum only had one old book for us to learn from, so I mostly learned to talk with most ppl, but with my mum I still sign they way she does. I am finally learning proper ASL, though now that I have moved somewhere with lessons, and its been so much fun to learn and not have to worry about trying to hear stuff!.
Happens here in Mexico too with the mexican sign language (LSM) in Mexico city is fast and pretty different from the northern part. The main problem is that most of the people teaching LSM are from the north so seeing it here in Mexico city while learning from the northern part of the country is pretty confusing.
I have a funny story about sign accents. My teacher is deaf teaching me ASL 3 and my tutor is also deaf. My tutor is oral Deaf went to gallaudet, from hearing family. My teacher doesn't speak, not sure what college she attended but her signing imo is so graceful and pretty. She teaches us a lot if completely different signs from my tutor who signs kind of different. She signs college or university with her dominant hand starting up and then going down and circling back up while my tutor signs it only going upwards
yeah agreed! every state, region, home sign, i even stated i doing some basic sign for hearing friends to understand or make up ones, even with my sister haha i did got some critize on those as well. we have our own language or we asborb some from others, i did has to sign differently for my members in group home to understand since they has their own.
In Vermont aka the New England area they sign dolphin 🐬 with the fingers crossed 🤞 and the thumb 👍 sticking to look like the dorsal fin. But in Maryland they sign dolphin 🐬 with the “d” hand-shape. The first one looks like a dolphin 🐬 and the second one doesn’t.
I’m hard of hearing, living in the Pacific Northwest. Seattle has signs for local businesses and attractions that don’t fit in Portland or Spokane and theirs don’t work here - example : Seattle has the Space Needle, those cities dont. We have a sign for it, they don’t. I lived in Chicago and Southern California , they have different signs : not wrong just different.
I find it kinda disrespectful that someone critizises your way of sign or even tries to correct your signs because theirs are better or something like that. There's nothing more beautiful in a language than its diversity.
I'm hearing with a deaf son, so I'm not fluent. We live in Houston. From him, I picked up a sign for gross/yucky that apparently means something totally different in mainstream ASL - though I don't remember what. But in Houston, the regional sign for YUCKY is the 9-hand on the left upper chest (like where you would sign COP.) What is that in mainstream ASL? And what is the mainstream sign for YUCKY? (Also this is a purely Houston sign, other places in Texas don't use this sign.)
that!? .. my sign "closet" is one letter " C" against to the flat palm hand . that is my used to habit sign from southern of Arizona!!.. 😳😛. it is none wrong with it... 🤔🤨😊
Yup I signed store like party store because they sells alcohols so I sign let’s go party store they said what ??? They said boo they sign liquor store like letter L in hand liquor store I was like oh ok but that’s where I learn from my own people where I grew up at ok nothing ASL is perfect ok so get what I am saying then let’s go party store lol
Aww nice positive I believe you when you got first make videophone and call friends deaf community many different America each states worse mistakes communicate American signs language. 😢😮so until day still long way to go to adjusting sign language to be same sign language. Because we don’t want make any mistakes community. Your sign language “ closet “is small number of percentage what deaf community has.
There's never WRONG in communication. If someone else understands what you mean, then it's right! People policing others' grammar, vocabulary etc are the worse... :$
Absolutely. They forgot about paying their respects to each other.
Yeah and I agreed with you because some states have different sign language for a same word. I am from Rochester, NY. So, when I came to Gallaudet University as the first year student, some of them criticized my sign language, but I told them that they can’t tell me what to do because of my habit in sign language where I practically sign ASL there. You know that many students at Gallaudet always they were/are right and were big heads especially they came from their deaf families. I am from my hearing family. I used to date a deaf guy long time ago and when I sign “it sounds good”, but he criticized me because he because he said “sounds” for hearing people and “looks” for deaf people. I told him that it was my sign language, not his. Typically he is from his deaf family. One time I sign Austin (Texas) with an A alphabet on my shoulder to a friend from Austin and he didn’t like it because he said that the sign for Austin as same as the sign language of my hometown. I insulted (in a nice way) that it was from Rochester and I also told him that some states have different sign language for Austin and others. He didn’t give me a damn. My very good friend, however, stood up for me as he told him that I was right that some states had their own sign language. Well, you know how big head Gallaudet was/is, but I still love Gallaudet because of my good memories there. Deaf people in Rochester never criticized my sign language when I sign in Gallaudet’s “sign language” every time I flew up to Rochester from Washington, DC for Thanksgiving and Christmas. Oh well…. By the way, I understood that the show at Gallaudet on November 11th was cancelled and has been postponed. So, will you please give me the certain date, so that I can buy 2 tickets? Thanks!
Hey, your sign for ‘closet’ means ‘to greet’ in Israeli Sign Language…
I’m not Deaf myself, but I know there are regional differences between signs here in Israel as well. For example, the sign for ‘Syria’ in Tel-Aviv is close to the word for ‘sugar’ (which looks kinda like the ASL sign for ‘sweet’), because in Hebrew, ‘Syria’ is סוּרִיָּה _SOO-ree-yuh_ and ‘sugar’ is סֻכָּר _sook-KAR_ (rough approximation of pronunciation), but in Haifa, it indicates the two stars on the Syrian flag.
Deaf linguist and sign language interpreter Doron Levy demonstrates this here:
czcams.com/video/wD-owFlzFgc/video.html
There are other differences, some more minute than others (like a slight difference in palm orientation and things like that), but from what I’ve seen there’s a process of dialect levelling in the language.
I totally get you on that one. I'm a midwesterner deaf and around here we would put one flat palm hand and do the "C" sign against the palm hand but move it around like it was a opening and closing door and that's how I signed closet, and many of my midwestern deaf friends also signed it that way. so when I first found out how people sign it differently I was like "huh, that makes no sense, why do you sign it that way?"
but I wouldn't say they were wrong. I agree on it just being a regional thing.
The sign I grew up using for CAT, and I'll never stop using it haha. CODA from PNW. Also all my signs are really old fashioned! Though I try to learn the new ones, I hang out with a lot of old folks haha. I was at a doctor's appointment with my Deaf dad who is in his 70s and he kept frowning at the interpreter not understanding what she was signing. I had to intervene with the two-handed initialized C tape reel sign for COMPUTER. You know it's an old sign when it comes from the time when computers with less processing power than our modern phones took up entire rooms!! (I do still tend to sign PHONE the y handshape old handset way.)
I was born HoH in the US Midwest but grew up speaking English in hearing culture
I've been learning ASL as an adult through a mix of talking to people around me and the internet
I have no idea what sign accent I have 😅
Haha, feel you. I had Gally criticize my signs too and still do at work that is full of deaf people with strong ASL signing, been there. Miss ya, my jersey amigo :)
I learned ASL many, many years ago and still use our old regional signs. For example, the sign I use for "what" looks like the sign most people use for "where" and the sign I use for "where" is what most people use for "what". I've actually found those signs in an ASL dictionary from many, many years ago.
I noticed there was accent with alot of signs, grass, cookies, brother, sister and other signs. I had others asked me why the signs were different. I explained is alot like accents, like east coast they say battray, for batteries we say here on the west coast. It's not wrong it's just said differently.
Everyone need be nice to deaf
Accent.. Exactly. I've met many people from different places.. Their ASL are not quite the same because of ACCENTS. I wouldn't change anything where I am coming from... MY ACCENT.
Exactly! My roommate signs pay attention like I just one word sign pay attention as attention so she signs two words pay attention as pay attention. I was puzzled what? And little criticized her then now I understand why she doing this cuz she used to this signs with her parents. They just used like home signs and some signs. So I respect her. It’s her accent. Is that cool!
my sign is no, i always sign it as a two finger pinch with an inward flick of the wrist as I sign, but apparently most ppl just pinch.
i grew up HoH but my mum only had one old book for us to learn from, so I mostly learned to talk with most ppl, but with my mum I still sign they way she does. I am finally learning proper ASL, though now that I have moved somewhere with lessons, and its been so much fun to learn and not have to worry about trying to hear stuff!.
Ironically enough, the sign for accent. I didn't recognize your signs, I always did it at the throat.
Happens here in Mexico too with the mexican sign language (LSM) in Mexico city is fast and pretty different from the northern part. The main problem is that most of the people teaching LSM are from the north so seeing it here in Mexico city while learning from the northern part of the country is pretty confusing.
Your sign for 'closet' means 'Neighbour' in my hometown (Winnipeg, Manitoba) lol. Interesting!
whatever I say it's dinner time, I say supper
Yesss!!! I sign trash like metal rather than like cabbage. Always get confused looks 😅
I have a funny story about sign accents. My teacher is deaf teaching me ASL 3 and my tutor is also deaf. My tutor is oral Deaf went to gallaudet, from hearing family. My teacher doesn't speak, not sure what college she attended but her signing imo is so graceful and pretty. She teaches us a lot if completely different signs from my tutor who signs kind of different. She signs college or university with her dominant hand starting up and then going down and circling back up while my tutor signs it only going upwards
yeah agreed! every state, region, home sign, i even stated i doing some basic sign for hearing friends to understand or make up ones, even with my sister haha i did got some critize on those as well. we have our own language or we asborb some from others, i did has to sign differently for my members in group home to understand since they has their own.
Excellent! Gallaudet too much discriminate!
Just ask "what do you mean?" That happened to me when I visited the east coast. Different regions are different.
Yes , I notice all different sign language closet . My asl closet different. People sign language closet different. That’s interest.
In Vermont aka the New England area they sign dolphin 🐬 with the fingers crossed 🤞 and the thumb 👍 sticking to look like the dorsal fin. But in Maryland they sign dolphin 🐬 with the “d” hand-shape. The first one looks like a dolphin 🐬 and the second one doesn’t.
That your sign closet really that mean is numbers smile
yes agree no right or wrong like saying words
I’m hard of hearing, living in the Pacific Northwest. Seattle has signs for local businesses and attractions that don’t fit in Portland or Spokane and theirs don’t work here - example : Seattle has the Space Needle, those cities dont. We have a sign for it, they don’t.
I lived in Chicago and Southern California , they have different signs : not wrong just different.
I find it kinda disrespectful that someone critizises your way of sign or even tries to correct your signs because theirs are better or something like that. There's nothing more beautiful in a language than its diversity.
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I'm hearing with a deaf son, so I'm not fluent. We live in Houston. From him, I picked up a sign for gross/yucky that apparently means something totally different in mainstream ASL - though I don't remember what. But in Houston, the regional sign for YUCKY is the 9-hand on the left upper chest (like where you would sign COP.) What is that in mainstream ASL? And what is the mainstream sign for YUCKY? (Also this is a purely Houston sign, other places in Texas don't use this sign.)
WOW dude I am a Houstonian and Deaf and use this sign EXACTLY and yes all my Deaf friendd who used to live in Houston signed that same way.
There in Finland 🇫🇮 sign language is clothing cabinet
yeahi have America language sign asl, i sign WIN my friends told me that i sign wrong 😂
that!? .. my sign "closet" is one letter " C" against to the flat palm hand . that is my used to habit sign from southern of Arizona!!.. 😳😛. it is none wrong with it... 🤔🤨😊
Why do you sign closet like that? What about a closet are you referencing?
Hi I'm deaf and sign language oh really weird . How is Jimmy. ¿? I love your video deaf drag..
Yup I signed store like party store because they sells alcohols so I sign let’s go party store they said what ??? They said boo they sign liquor store like letter L in hand liquor store I was like oh ok but that’s where I learn from my own people where I grew up at ok nothing ASL is perfect ok so get what I am saying then let’s go party store lol
I used clothes door. I'm not skill ASL.
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Aww nice positive
I believe you when you got first make videophone and call friends deaf community many different America each states worse mistakes communicate American signs language. 😢😮so until day still long way to go to adjusting sign language to be same sign language. Because we don’t want make any mistakes community. Your sign language “ closet “is small number of percentage what deaf community has.
Oh darling, congratulations on coming out of the closet. 😝
Because deaf can’t heard everyone
Look like you sign neighbor
I grew up mid eastern. You sign for closet to me means neighbor.
The sign u use look like nigberhood in ur own accent and my sign for closet is like door but one with c
Mine was the same I'd sign closet the same and I was told I was wrong I don't do asl I do English sign language