Mazda News Update | 2025 Mazda CX-70 Pricing & Trims
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- The 2025 Mazda CX-70 pricing is released and it's actually lower than I thought. What I didn't expect is that it is the exact same price as the 2024 Mazda CX-90. That is only possible after price reductions on the CX-90. I think this is a great lineup for the mid-size crossover.
The CX-70 will launch just 4 trims initially, the Turbo S Premium, Turbo S Premium Plus, PHEV Premium, and PHEV Premium Plus. There will be 7 trims in total adding the standard Turbo Preferred, Premium, and Premium Plus. The three powertrain options are carried over from the CX-90 with two in-line six cylinder options and the plug-in hybrid electric vehicle.
The Turbo S Premium will now include ventilated from seats on the Black or Red Nappa leather. The Turbo S Premium Plus will offer only one interior color the Tan Quilted Nappa leather.
The Premium models have options of six exterior paint colors of Jet Black Mica, Rhodium White Metallic, Soul Red Crystal, Zircon Sand, Polymetal Gray, and all-new Melting Copper.
What do you think about the CX-70 Price?
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I've never been angered more by a car release but the excitement and anticipation for two years and this is what we got and not a sportier cx-60 look. God I wish we could just buy the cx-60 and import it ourselves. If that is an option, do let me know. Appreciate staying positive though Jonathan. Good luck selling those bad boys.
It does have the sporty CX-60 look
I was expecting an X5 size 192-194".
@@jstrigit looks nothing like it lol
@@jj5515 It looks VERY similar
BREAKING NEWS: MAZDA just announced the new 2025 CX-80. The 2025 CX-80 will be the same car as the CX70/CX90 but will have a new Web page on the Mazda website.
Yay!! Same pricing, less a row of seats, and more PLASTIC on the outside! It sounds like a real win! 🤦🏽♂️
love mazda but this is the worst thing they couldve done. Not sure how they expect to grow peoples interest when the luxury 70 is the same as the 90. The least they couldve done was put the price down since they save money on making the same exact car as the 90. Awful move. guess i have to hope they update the cx5 in 2 years to have the same luxury look
They can't lower the price on the cx70 because it will take sales away from the 90 for those who don't really need the third row even more than already will if prices were the same. The 90 third row is small to begin with.
CX70 since it's a bit smaller will be more fun to drive
@alexalexalex658 it's a CX90 without the third row of seats. It's not smaller.
wow nice @@th003g
You can't magically conjure up a third row in the CX70 but you can fold down the third row in the CX90. And this CX70 is expected to sell? I love Mazda but this is truly mind-boggling
It will sell
It well sell, but not in large volume. I believe Mazda is expecting 70 sales to be about a third of the volume of the 90. But IMO, if they made the 70 the size everyone was wanting (size of X5, Cayenne, etc: 190-195"), it would get considerably higher sales volume than the 90.
So Jonno: it comes as no surprise how many people there think the Mazda's product and pricing strategy on the CX70 is disappointing and just plain stupid. Your market was hoping for something closer to a CX60. Well we have the CX60 here in Oz and I can tell you that a fair chunk of the size increase is to accommodate an inline 6 power plant. The usable space inside the vehicle is not that hugely different to a CX5. Many of the reviews done to date have highlighted disappointment in that aspect of the vehicle.
Sure, there's a bit more luggage space, but it's far from breath-taking. Add to this the fact that the top spec model in a plug-in Hybrid is nudging $85K out the door (around $56USD) and it's easy to see why sales aren't massive, The dealerships will talk the numbers up but the litmus test is always what your eyeballs tell you... and my eye balls tell me that since the CX60 was released here last year, I've seen just one on the road: but Ive seen many, many more sitting in car yards with big "BUY-ME" stickers on the windshields. If you need a six-pot donk and you crave a few plusher trim options to what the CX5 offers, then maybe the CX60 will be a perfect fit for you. But at the price, I do wonder that a fair share of the punters will say to themselves, in-for-a-penny-in-for-a-pound and cough up a few more hard-earned's for the feel-good kudos of owning a Euro brand.
But back to the CX70 for the moment... to quote a famous saying by the proverbial Forrest Gump, stupid is what does stupid does... because I can see that Mazda plans to release the CX 70 here in Oz as well.
It'll sit right between the CX60 and the CX 90. And I suspect its sales success ... or not, will be for the same reasons as how the market there accepts it... or doesn't!. And just when you thought things couldn't get any dumber in Mazda-land... the next big car in the headlines here will be the CX80. Who knows what thats gonna look like... a 3-row CX60? A 3-row CX 70? Does that mean the CX90 could be the shortest living model in history? Who knows... but whilst we are on the CX90 subject, how little does Mazda actually care about its customers? I cannot believe that within a few short months of releasing a new model into the market, Mazda slashes thousands off the price. Thats customer-loyalty abuse.
Here in Australia, we call it pissing in someone's cornflakes!
Under the smoke and mirrors cloak of supposedly improving its quality proposition to compete with premium bands, Mazda has been steadily ramping up many of its optional pricing add-ons in the background. A glaring example of this BS is what Mazda charges for premium paints such as Soul Red Crystal. When I took delivery of my CX 5 in mid 2021 - that's less than 36 months back, the RRP for that paint was $560AUD. Today, the same paint upgrade is quoted at $950... that's almost a 70% increase.
If Mazda added diamond crystals to the paint and employed Rembrandt in the spray booth, the cost would not have jumped by that much.
By any interpretation that's blatant price gouging.
And while we are on the CX5... like everyone, I was looking forward to the next generation CX5. But no more.
Based on what I'm seeing with Mazda's evolving brand strategy, I suspect we may all be in for more than a few unpalatable surprises when they roll that vehicle out in whatever form it takes. First and foremost I'm not interested in supporting a brand that will sell me a car for $95K with all the promises of value retention blah blah blah, only to the devalue my purchase by 5+% by slashing the RRP just a few months later.
Mazda would do well to take off its proverbial 'Emperors clothing', place a lot more value on the customers it has fought hard to win the hearts and wallets of and focus its thinking on better ways to own its current brand position; rather than masquerade as a luxury-car try-hard. The take-home message to Mazda executive is simple: customers don't like to be taken for fools and the market place is cluttered with the bodies of corporate brands that disrespected the intelligence of their once-loyal customers... think: General Motors... think Yahoo.
Maybe, Mazda, just try thinking.
How's that for a bit of a rant Jonno!
Why would someone pay more for less?? More for a CX-70 with less seating than a CX-90! Just fold down the third row on the CX-90! 😖
That’s what I do on my cx9. I use it up or down for different cargo management, not passengers! I was hoping the 70 would be smaller & cheaper, but when they released the same same info, I just bought out my 9 lease. Will wait and see if they bring over something like the 60/smaller at some point.
Look at Stelantis, people pay extra for chrome delete options. Same for Audis. Now you have a chrome delete option called CX-70…
@@David_Journey Not a great comparison. Those other companies do it as a package. Audi for example has the black optics trim. They don’t create an entirely different model to delete the chrome.
On the Mazda USA website it appears that the CX70 is more expensive, but thats only because it starts at the Turbo S Premium trim. But still it should be cheaper without the 3rd row and no option for ventilated rear seats either like the CX90!
Jonathan, as you can read from the comments we are not happy with the CX70. There are so many CX70 review videos on YT with similar negative comments. I'm hoping you'll go to your managers and let them know how we feel about the CX70. Mazda needs to know too. A 2025 CX5 refresh is the last chance for Mazda to get my money.
They already know that's why the CX70 got delayed last year and the launch was "soft" compared to every other Mazda launch in the past few years. Would have been better if they just didnt offer the CX70 at all, the name is already been tainted and the car isnt even on sale yet because the perception from about 90 percent of the commenters here and everywhere is that the car should have been a wider version of the CX60. They knew at least since the CX90 was launched that many folks wanted something similar to the CX90 but in a smaller package, but they still chose to offer a CX90 Sport. a la the CX90 with two rows of seats, blacked out trim, etc. Didnt even give it a coupe-like rear end or anything lol. And the third row cup holders are still back there too. Jesus take the wheel.
How is black the only free paint option? Mazda is just making this whole release worse and worse for themselves.
Do you want cheap paint or paint that looks the best? Pick one.
😂😂 it’s like Henry ford said! You can have it in any color you want as long as you want black! … or you want to pay more I guess!
But seriously Mazda isn’t the only company doing this. About everyone these days offer the standard color as some combination of white, black, and / or silver and all other colors are a premium charge.
White is also free
@@jstrig Not currently according to the Mazda website. When you build a CX-70 Rhodium White is a $595 up charge. Jet Black is currently the only build option that is “included” without mark-up.
@David_Journey Well I paid a premium for my Soul Red color on my CX-5 and has several chips in it. I guess it's still cheap paint.
Stop riding Mazda so hard; they won't notice you or send you free gifts.
After owning two Mazdas (a current gen 3 and cx5 Turbo) Mazda has lost me. I’d imagine any cx90 owners who recently bought have got to be pissed about these price drops but it’s not surprising since dealer lots here in my area are full of cx90s, cx50s and cx5s.
Mazda has supply of real cars you can buy, versus Toyota and added dealer markups and empty lots for most of 2023. You can choose what you prefer… I’d vote for a full lot and choices any day.
Mazda breaks down sales figures by each model per each quarter, just check the press release, or JSS’s channel, no need to count cars on the lot… which is not precise metric for anything.
@@David_Journey I dont have to count the cars, I see Mazdas reaction to the market. Name one car company outside of Jeep who's cut the price of anything since the pandemic? Hyundai just increased the price of the Santa Fe by $5000 over the previous model. Mazda just chopped 1-4K off the price of the CX90, Mazda just had 0 percent financing on the CX5 earlier this year/late last yaer and a salesmen emailed me about 0 percent on the cx50 a few weeks ago. Automakers dont discount cars unless they have to sir. That's all I'm gonna say about that. Good night! :)
Mazda is one confused car company…what’s next…removed the backseat on the CX50 and call it the new CX30 and raise the price!
First they bring out the CX-5/CX-50 and now the CX-90/CX-70. I wonder if the Mazda management folks commute by bicycle?
Completely irrelevant comment. How does these two activities correlate?
What do you understand about overall plan of lifecycle for these vehicles which is not public info?
@@David_Journey - They correlate to me as a consumer. If it makes sense to me, I’ll make a purchase. I work for a major manufacturer in a different industry, and lifecycle is something we discuss regularly. My company is the 800 lb. Gorilla, so we must be diligent to understand the blend and relationship between our products. I waited patiently for an upgrade to the CX-9, for something with a little more power. The CX-90 is a great vehicle, but around launch time we heard a new CX-70 model was coming. And now we know the 70 is much like a 90. I may still end up purchasing a 70 or a 90. But as a consumer, I have an opinion., and a checkbook.
@@stevenb1446 for me it sounds as a cheap insult for alternate forms of transportation. If someone lives 10 minutes bike ride from the factory, they are free to ride to work. Up to them. And Mazda USA marketing team is HQ-Ed in Orange County, which is a very car-heavy commute community, so I doubt they use their bicycle.
@@David_Journey - Oh, I see now you missed the point of my original comment, which was a joke. There was no attempt to slam the bicycle community. I ride a Cannondale mountain bike myself. So, let me explain the humor of my original comment, which was to say the (Mazda) powers to be should spend more time using their products. My industry brings new models all the time, and consumers ask, “What were they thinking?” There are great products that get introduced all of the time, but fail to find an audience. The consumer always has the final word. Take care, David!
@@stevenb1446 ah make sense. :-) Thank you for being kind and going (cycling) the extra mile.
I was really hoping to trade in my 2021 CX-5 for a slightly bigger CX-70 but they brought a bus with 2 rows. Mazda lost a loyal customer. I will pay more and get an X5
Same with my 2022 CX-5.
Key words: "Exact same" Which begs the question: Why? Jonathan, are you really pleased with the direction Mazda has gone since the intro of the CX-50 to now?
After waiting two years for the CX-70 I am disappointed. Time to look elsewhere. Thanks Jonathan.
I don’t understand they have to call it cx70 when in fact the only difference from cx90 is without the 3rd row. 🤦♂️ Doesn’t make sense.
As well as every model getting all of the features on the highest models in the CX-90….
I am glad that Mazda has the CX-70 the same size as the CX-90. However, I think Mazda should just have called the CX-70 a CX-90 sports. They are getting heat for the CX-70 being the same size, but different name, this would not have happened if this two row CX-70 was called a CX-90 sports.
I think their marketing department miss a good opportunity and are not getting the reaction they expected. The vehicle is not getting the positive feed back it supposed to get. I love the CX-70 and will be buying one, but I think it is very unnecessary for it been called a CX-70.
I hope someone at Mazda can see what I wrote. Mazda could have saved the CX-70 name for a future vehicle that would fit between the CX-90 and CX-50 in size. Using the CX-70 name in this situation is such a waste.
Question: How come there is no CX 60 in the States? I have a 2023 CX 5 CE but was thinking of getting a bigger vehicle in the future because I am in need of more spacing and cargo. I was hoping the 70 would be more like the 60 and not the 90. The 60 even looks similar to the CX-5 as far as design but is obviously a little bigger which is perfect. I guess we’ll see how the 70 does.
Because the CX-60 is about the same size inside as a CX-5/CX-50. How many vehicles does Mazda need that are basically the same size inside... which is too small
@@jstrig ah okay I wasn’t aware of the interior size but the exterior looks bulkier than the CX-5.
They say the cx60 would have about the same cargo space as the cx50. Which is exactly why they should have split the size difference between the 60 and 90 to match the X5. They just took the cheap way out. I probably end up with the cx90 or a slightly used x5 unless they lower the price on the cx70.
Johnathan …. The disappointment in your voice in this car is coming through loud and clear ! This cx 70 makes no sense !!! I’ll be done with Mazda next month after my cx5 carbon lease is done next month ! I was really hoping to jump in a 70 but the car is a boat it’s huge and that back end I just can’t get over
Maybe you can ride something for a year or two until the new CX5 comes out.
@@JSS thinking the same thing ! Thanks for the reply brother ! Thanks for your videos !
Yeah, ride a donkey in the meantime 😊
Large station wagon.
While I appreciate your enthusiasm, Mazda dropped the ball here. Whomever is responsible for the 70 for the US market needs to resign. And How is Alexa, which has been caught listening to home conversations, a good thing ?
When my 22 Carbon CX9 lease is up, I won’t be shopping for another Mazda sad😢. This Cx 70 was gonna be my next ride because I don’t need the size of a cx90
I’m one of those angry owners, I love my turbo s premium plus but this is completely BS. Way to show the appreciation for those of us early adopters. overnight my cx90 depreciated by another $3-4K. What an amateur move Mazda.
Where do you see this data? And what triggered it?
@@David_Journey mazda’s website has the updated pricing for the cx-90. the trim level i bought last june is $4K cheaper.
I'm sorry to hear this and as a former Mazda owner, Mazda's resale value already isn't quite as good as Toyota/Honda. The whole launch of all these RWD Mazda has been a real missed opportunity for the brand. The CX60 was plauged with problems when it first hit...minor stuff but still noticeable stuff. Some of those issues are now in the CX90...then they launch a CX70 that's basically a CX90 in drag...The CX90's reviews haven't been stellar...its not really living up to the hype that Mazda made it out to be and now its got to compete directly with a sibling that basically offers everything it does with a few color changes, bumper changes and a deleted third row. Toyota, go ahead and just buy Mazda. To launch a RWD I6 program when everything is going either Hybrid or EV is a RISKY strategy...to do it you have to check all the boxes, it has to be perfect because your whole company is on the line. Mazda could and should have done a better job with these vehicles. The CX90 is too big exterior wise and its interior is crampped compared to everything in its class. Now we have a CX70 thats basically its twin and its too big to cater to those of us who wanted something smaller than the CX90 but more luxurious (and RWD) over th CX5/CX50. The CX5 is their best selling vehcile, they didnt offer those of us who bought the CX-5 anything to grow into. Just mismanagement all the way around. I think Mazda is an ambitious company that lacks concrete direction. I like them better than Toyota and Honda. Honda used to be my brand but theyve become too bland. Mazda has a lot of the right elements but they cant seem to get it right. The product that has been consistent is the CX5 and its so old now that its past time to replace it. THe CX50 just aint the right replacement IMO.
I'm sorry to hear this and as a former Mazda owner, Mazda's resale value already isn't quite as good as Toyota/Honda. The whole launch of all these RWD Mazda has been a real missed opportunity for the brand. The CX60 was plauged with problems when it first hit...minor stuff but still noticeable stuff. Some of those issues are now in the CX90...then they launch a CX70 that's basically a CX90 in drag...The CX90's reviews haven't been stellar...its not really living up to the hype that Mazda made it out to be and now its got to compete directly with a sibling that basically offers everything it does with a few color changes, bumper changes and a deleted third row. Toyota, go ahead and just buy Mazda. To launch a RWD I6 program when everything is going either Hybrid or EV is a RISKY strategy...to do it you have to check all the boxes, it has to be perfect because your whole company is on the line. Mazda could and should have done a better job with these vehicles. The CX90 is too big exterior wise and its interior is crampped compared to everything in its class. Now we have a CX70 thats basically its twin and its too big to cater to those of us who wanted something smaller than the CX90 but more luxurious (and RWD) over th CX5/CX50. The CX5 is their best selling vehcile, they didnt offer those of us who bought the CX-5 anything to grow into. Just mismanagement all the way around. I think Mazda is an ambitious company that lacks concrete direction. I like them better than Toyota and Honda. Honda used to be my brand but theyve become too bland. Mazda has a lot of the right elements but they cant seem to get it right. The product that has been consistent is the CX5 and its so old now that its past time to replace it. THe CX50 just aint the right replacement IMO.
@@RudePaul123 some of the issues can be remedied by updating transmission programming software. As a CX-90 PHEV owner since May 2023 I have been enjoying these improvements in my daily drive. No car is perfect, but for given price and equipment I did not find a manufacturer who offers the mix of space, driving joy (given its size) and aesthetic appeal like Mazda does. Being owner of a first gen new released platform is never without risks, and new owners should factor that in their decision making / calculation. I am satisfied with my decision and would not go back to anything else released in 2023/2024.
This is so insulting on Mazda's part. Do they think we're too stupid to just fold down the third row seats of the CX-90? I'll forgive them if they just bring over the CX-60 to the states or if they make a Spirit Racing CX-30
Do you realize that there are weight savings from not having a third row? If we are talking about real racing here, every ounce counts.
Why do you think US market needs a narrow SUV like CX-60? Do you see vehicles getting smaller on this side of the pond?
And what is the cost of homologizing the CX-60 model - crashtests and all the government requirements?
If Mazda would of made the CX-70 a 2 row suv sport coupe. Mazda maybe would have not lost a potential buyer. They lost me and others will follow. That is why i am buying an Acura MDX/RDX.
Always been a fan of the MDX. Wife had the first year 2001. Would've bought one if it wasnt for that damn trackpad BS, the buttons didnt help either. Started looking at Mazda CX90/CX70 when they announced it. I'm moving on from Mazda after this poor marketing decision, especially now that Acura is getting rid of the trackpad.
I think charging a premium for every color but black wasn't a good idea. A couple different options without a premium charge would've helped add value to the CX-70.
I agree. If 5/6 are premium…just add some to the base price 🤪
I want to see a new generation for the CX-5 😭😭😭
Discouraging news. Buying a Acura.
I've only bought Mazda for over 30 years. But regrettably will be looking at other brands now.
That 40k base model CX-70 with that 3.3L straight six must be the best car for your buck you can get out there
Was thinking the same, upgrade the wheels and suspension and called a day. I was excited with this car…
So they overpriced the cx-90 from the very beginning??
I have to think someone at Mazda is going to get fired a year from now when final sales figures for model year 2025 are in. Every decision they have made regarding this "new" CX-70 as been just plain dumb. If you don't want to invest the money in developing and testing a new model then don't release a new model. Same damn price as the CX-90? Not only that, the starting price for a base 3-row CX-90 is actually about $3k less than a base CX-70. They have lost their damn minds over at Mazda. They already have 8 different trim levels for the CX-90 what is one more? They should have just added another trim and called it the "carbon edition" which they already use on other models and given it a small bump in HP, added dual exhaust, dropped the third row, and blacked out all the trim. Boom. That one new trim for the CX-90 completely eliminated this never asked for CX-70 that they released. All this nonsense about calling it a new model is dumb. I don't think I have ever been so overhyped and underwhelmed by the release of a new model vehicle.
There is a reason why you are a CZcams commenter not a Mazda Exec. Press releases and sales results are public. Let’s see.🎉
The base cx-70 is actually more akin to the next tier up on cx-90 so it's essentially the same price
@@Rockytop8118 empty nesters will never need a third row
@@David_Journey most people have houses and not nests
@@David_Journey CZcams commenter AND consumer. 😉 I personally have been waiting for the CX-70 release for a year and a half and had delayed buying anything else while I waited. Think I’ll probably go with the Q5 now. 🤷🏻♂️ And my sentiment regarding this release seems to be shared by many others. But you’re right we will see how successful this plan is; although we will never truly know what the lost potential might have been if we had gotten a brand new model that was actually a true two row midsize suv. None of us have a crystal ball but my guess is either A) sales for the 70 will underwhelm because anyone comparing the two will say they get more flexibility in the 90 for the same price and can fold the seat down when they need the extra cargo space OR B) people will like the new blacked out trim and red interior option and the 70 will do well but it will carve away sales from the 90 because it’s the same potential buyers looking at both vehicles. Most people looking for a true midsize are going to say this is too big. Of course that is just my opinion as someone looking for a midsize SUV. Don’t get me wrong this is a great addition to the CX-90 trim lineup, but it is not new model, certainly not the new model that people actively following the release were hoping for based on public reactions thus far.
I have to admit you were right all along about the size of the cx70, it's clearly a cost cutting measure. Wish it were 6-8" shorter though. Do you know if most dealers are willing to swap out 21" wheels for the 19"s on the cx90? I want the higher output I6 but the softer ride and better tire selection of the 19".
It’s not just softness, but safety of keeping a heavier car with faster engine stick to the road if you need to avoid some obstacle. More sidewall means poorer handling in case of emergency. I found no issues on 21 inch wheels in 6 months of use other than perhaps higher purchase price of replacement tires when that comes up.
I own a CX-90 PHEV Premium Plus with 21 Inch wheels. I am driving a loaner CX-90 Preferred Plus with 19 inch wheels. There really isn’t a significant difference between the ride when driving in rough stretches of road.
So sad. I was waiting for the CX-70. I wanted a smaller vehicle lengthwise.
The round bubble tailgate is deal breaker for me. Im not spending 40k plus for a Euro Sport style front that has Mini Van hatch. Test drove a CX90 and was not very impressed with the drivetrain. I like the look of the CX-50 much better than the CX90 and CX70. Also with the way Mazdas depreciate in value I would wait for a used model with low miles. Even with all the bells and whistles those prices are ridiculous. I would sooner shell out that kind of cash for a Toyota Highlander bc it will still be worth something in a few years.
Within 2 years Mazda will discontinue one of these, or heavily be discounting them.
And Wait for the fall, base model should be fine for most buyers. Save yourself $5000-$10,000
Why do u think Mazda is releasing it last.
They're already discounting the 90. Both MSRP and at the dealer. Meanwhile Toyota, Honda and the Koreans are still selling at or over MSRP quite often.
@@th003g Did mazda drop the price on 90 for turbo s pp trim?
Same price of the 90? Come on, Mazda!. The marketing Chief should be fired!
I think this decision was made over his head 🤣.
I think people willing to pay for the privilege of rear wheel drive platform may disagree.
If you want best value, go for CX-5, not the top dog. There is a Mazda for all.
Extremely disappointing move by Mazda. First of all, I was hoping the CX70 would be similar in size to the CX60, maybe just slightly larger. Now, they're pricing it the same as the CX90. What the heck are they thinking? They've lost me on this one. Had my eyes on the P-HEV, but these decisions by Mazda are truly baffling and have evaporated my interest.
Not thrilled with the color choices on the CX-70. There isn't a rich jewel tone color like that deep Artisan Red or Deep Blue Mica, plus no Silver (sonic silver in the 90) and really, If the CX-70 Premium plus is the same price as the CX-90 Premium Plus, at least give us the $0 option of something like the Captain's chairs in the back row. I know many will choose the bench seat, but even if you could only move the angle of the seat bottom and seat back (you can do the back now on the bench), perhaps that 2+2 setup option would make people feel better about $3,000 more for the S Premium Plus on the CX-70. I would also think a choice of Black or Tan on the premium, and black, Tan, or red on premium plus would help add the value. I suspect the black will be the only deep looking color on the CX-70, and I am so NOT happy about that, I am afraid the soul red will look too pale now that we have seen the 90 with Artisan red and deep blue mica. I guessed the top trim of the CX-70 would be 53,000 + or low 54,000 range. I dunno Mazda. I am disappointed with color choices for what will end up as a $56,000 car with the paint upcharges. At least you could have bought back the Sepang Green from like 2003-ish 6 I used to own for some color besides a white, black, gray or beige-ish. They are boring!
Agree, color choices are poor. I wouldn't care, but my wife would.
Madza is confusing,was waiting for cx70 thinking it would be cheaper and smaller bummer,looking elsewhere now.
Huge blunder on Mazdas decision making. Hopefully it doesn’t tarnish the brand too much
This is a letdown. Im interested now on the upcoming CX50 hybrid 😂😂😂
I’m excited about that one also.
Wish the 50 had more headroom for tall people in second row. I would have got it instead of another cx5.
After buying a 2023 CX-5 for my wife , i was looking forward for a CX-70 for myself because i don't need a third row but with the pricing of the CX-70 , i may consider getting a CX-90 with better color options like White on White or Red on White . I was hoping CX-70 starting price would be at $35k not $40k . Zoom Zoom is becoming Zap Zap .😃😃
Me too.
they should add a CX-80 for anyone else who feels left out of a specific category, more models and trims so we can really be confused
Loll they literally removed the 3rd row. Even left the 3rd row cup holders in the trunk. 😂. Do better mazda.
CX-70 is a huge dissapointment, it supposed to be a slightly upgraded CX-60 compact suv
Love your video's which I could buy from your dealership but a little far from virginia. We have the CX-50 PP and although we love it we were so excited for the cx-70 thinking more power (for me) and a little bigger. We have no kids so don't need the cx-90 tank.... sadly when they released it can't tell you how deflated I felt seeing the CX-70 is basically a 90 without the 3rd seat. Couldn't they just make a CX-90 and have the option of 3rd row delete? Seems like that would have saved them allot of tooling, and money. The CX-60 should have come to US as the 70 IMO. Well we will keep the CX-50 for the wife and I will look at some other SUV's that are a little smaller then the 90 which isn't many out there but now looking at a Ford Edge ST to maybe be the best of both world?
Mazda, this is the biggest disappointment. I was so looking foward to some more like the cx 60. Instead, we get a 2 row cx 90 which took 2 yrs. 😮
I'm surprised CX-70 is actually discounted for 4K , I was expecting $2K lower from the previous 90 price
It’s not discounted. It is the exact same price as the CX-90?
@@hskrgrad Cause CX90 Discounted 3k-4k to match cx70's Pricing
What Sr Mgt thought of this one? I can see people buying a CX-90 and not a CX-70, unless they lower the price. I was possibly wanting a CX-70 to, now I have to really thank about this one.
Def agree with some of the comments. Current CX90 owners must be scratching their head as this is a Tesla move by cutting prices. Then for the CX 70 (which I was really hoping to get) - they needed to go lower.
Mazda needs new leadership.
I see the 70 going the way of the CX30 hybird (or electric). 2 to 3 years, then done in the US. The 90 may not be long either.
Mazda is really screwing this up.
why make a new model, just because you drop there third row seat, its "crazy"! Just offer or have an option for two row seats. Many people will never use it, put would love the size and space of the cx-90 as A two row seater. Also I was hopping for a smaller size cx-70 with the same option, like 3.3 turbo and hybrid rear wheel drive. I don't need such a large SUV, I jus wanted the have Mazda driving feeling! I hope you get your Strategy corrected, If not your going to loses loyal fans of the brand
Love my CX90 PHEV Premium however, i feel they should have came out with the CX70 1st, thennn the CX90.
I have been a Nissan customer for the past 15 years. When my Nissan Murano lease expires in June, I was hoping to lease a CX-70, but why do that now if it costs as much as the CX-90? I am also disappointed that the CX-70 base model won’t be available until the fall. The base price should be closer to $36,000, the same price as a Nissan Pathfinder.
The Nissan Pathfinder for lack of better words is not on the same level as the CX-90 /70 so them costing the same wouldn't make sense... just get a Kia sorento if you don't want to fork over extra money for a premium vehicle
Get the cx5 turbo signature it’s basically the same size as the murano plus you get better incentives on them vs the 70 and 90.
Thanks for your helpful reply. I just checked out all the Mazda SUV's at their website. The CX-5 Turbo is $435/month with $3,444 down. The CX-50 is $445/month with the same amount down, and the CX-90 base trim is $426/month with 4,449 down. If I had to choose now, I would probably go with the CX-50 turbo since it's only $10 more a month and a bit larger than the CX-5. @@tommy13965
If they lower the prices on the cx70 i would definitely buy it.
I’ve been a long time Mazda customer but who the hell is Mazda listening to with this decisions !
I was deciding whether to keep the 2022 CX-9 carbon edition or trade it in for the CX-70 since we have never used the 3rd row. Looks like we are keeping the CX-9 carbon edition. We are leasing and have 1.5 years left on the lease and have less than 5k miles on it.
We want to lower our payments and perhaps downgrade to a CX-5 but we may be better just keeping what we have and buy it towards the end of the lease unless we can get a similar trim on a CX-5 in a comparable trim to what we have now for lower payments.
Why would Mazda punish its existing customers by lowering the price of CX90 by $3k$4k ?!? So whoever just purchased it recently should be pissed. Why wouldn't they just keep the CX90 the same price (it's selling really well), and introduce CX70 at lower price so it makes perfect sense and people get excited about it... some dumb analyst sold Mazda management on this fine analysis lol
Because they probably aren’t selling to well.
@@tommy13965 if you look at the sales numbers for past few months, Cx90 is selling like hot cakes!
You may be confusing pricing of different trims. You can drop the price by introducing a lower trim that undercuts the price of previously lowest trim. That is not the same as lowering price of a trim and keeping trim structure same.
@@tommy13965 bingo!
Current CX90 owners are probably punching the air right now
While I'm sure people who previously purchased CX-90s could be upset, I think they needed to reduce the pricing to be more competitive with other 3 Row offerings from other manufacturers. In October I bought a competitor, but might have considered a CX-90 more seriously if this lower pricing was in place then. I guess I don't understand why someone would purchase a CX70 for the price of a CX-90 and have less flexibility. Is there any cargo capacity gained by having the third row removed?
I think the “same” price is temporary until the 2025 CX-90 is released. I think 90 was competitively priced before, but this will definitely make more higher trim features more appealing. The CX-70 should have best in class rear cargo. I believe the floor is a little lower without the third row. Also they have the sub trunk for storage where the foot area for the third row passengers use to reside.
Maybe you will swing back to Mazda in a couple of years 😁
@@JSS Maybe. I do have a '21 MX-5 RF GT as my daily driver which I love to drive. In fact the first video of yours that I saw was for the same car as mine with Deep Crystal Blue Mica / White Napa leather combo.
I got 5k off , 46k OTD Preferred plus CX90. I don’t think there is any inline 6 can be touch this price in the future , no mater 70or 90
@skumy7 Assume it was pretty recently? When I was shopping in October there was no way you could do that. The dealer added $3K of stuff I didn't want and would only offer MSRP. The CX-90 would have cost me $8K more than what I got and it wouldn't have been equipped as well. The Inline 6 didn't mean that much to me - I have the MX-5 for driving fun.
Looks Mazda thinks charging BMW and Mercedes level prices was a good idea. Mazda used to be a good car a good price but I guess they decided to commit suicide consideting their US sales numbers. Sad
Mazda losing the sanity.
Sorry if I missed it, but does any CX70 trim offer 2nd row captain chairs?
Why they not call CX-90 2 rows version?
I waited 2 years for a mazda version of a bmw x5. mid size suv with a powerhouse 6 cyl. At this point im just buying another sedan, probably a 430xi. Without any indication of the mazda 6 returning, i'm likely turning away from the brand for the first time in 11 years.
That’s sad to hear, but I understand. It’s hard to keep waiting for something that never comes, or is different than you thought
Nope Mazda lost my sale with the Turbo and the PHEV ! I think when I’m ready I’ll look at either the Honda Passport or the Nissan Pathfinder that have the natural aspirated engines.
Why did they not shorten this vehicle? This is way longer than a CRV, yet they have about the same cargo capacity. A shorter CX 70 would have the same interior capacity of a CX-5. This is a RWD so all the extra length is in the hood
This powertrain would be perfect for a truck.
I think Mazda blew it on the 70 by making Machine Grey Metallic with the new red nappa interior, and a captain's chair/console 2nd row not available (Cause the exterior blackout trim is so cool 🤷♂️)
I’m sad about Machine Gray also. I don’t understand. It would look great with black out trim.
Canada is getting Machine Grey. Just not the US unfortunately. @@JSS
@@FeLiX13sLaVe 😭
@@FeLiX13sLaVe I just don’t get that. The entire premise of the Cx-70 seems to be save money by not deviating much from the 90. So why waste the effort having different trims and options in Canada? If you’re really trying to be production budget minded why not just have a North American model that you sell in both countries? I noticed the Canadian model has a different wheel package too?
@@hskrgrad this is a non-issue. Different colors and different wheels cost next to nothing in the grand scheme of things. Mazda designs a product, and then the product planning management from each market picks and chooses the combination of features that they think makes most sense for their market. This is standard procedure. I remember when the 4th gen Mazda3 dropped and Canada had it available in Titanium Flash Metallic, a color that we never officially received on 4th gen 3s in the US. I do personally think not offering Machine Grey on US-spec CX-70 is a mistake. It's one of Mazda's best colors and would look really good with the "blacked-out" elements of CX-70. I also don't particularly like the look of Polymetal when it's on larger vehicles. I never liked it on CX-9 or Mazda6, for example.
I would hope with the third row missing that the CX 70 provides a little more legroom for the second row who can confirm
They're the same on the published spec sheets
They didn't mention anything about moving the seat back or putting it on rails.
Exact same...
Highly likely no change in rail length of 2nd row. It looks identical to CX-90.
My family is very tall so was hoping for more 2nd row room with the 3rd row delete. What are they thinking?
I just don't get it, why make two different vehicles at all.
Also why Mazda does not offer the same top trim options in the PHEV? There are some safety things that even a cheap Corolla have, that we only get in the Turbo S top trim and we just can't have in the PHEV for both CX-70 and CX-90
My Corolla has a wiper de-icer and here it's only bundled with the tan suede interior. That makes zero sense, especially when you realize that suede isn't ideal in climates where the de-icer is useful. Sigh.
actually, they didn't make two different models...
Loved the CX90 but not the minivan interior.So the Cx70 with the full 2nd row is right for me. Turbo S is for me. Not great colors.The Grey and the sand are different.Wish Mazda would have carried over the platinum Quartz from the 90 to the 70. I can afford the 54k , but dam it’s not cheap
I wish mazda had simply give us the euro cx70 at less expense mazda...all this is is a warmed over cx90 with third row delete...still too big....
Tan leather as the only option is stupid. Do all of CX-70s come with the 360 degree camera?
Mazda should make a cx5 or cx50 in a manual.
I know its not for everyone but a dad that needs an SUV for the family would love it.
Wish they just updated or upgraded the cx 8. The captain seat in the 2nd row and add all the tech would have been a better option?
They will have a CX-80 over sees. Still waiting to see how it compares
@@JSShopefully they will have a captain seat variant like the cx8
Mazda is going to take a hit for this mistake
Missed opportunity by Mazda. Curious to know how you sell the 70 to someone and assume the person will just say “I can get the 90 for a similar price and have 3 rows. Seem body, same specs on fuel usage…. Etc.
I’m really curious to see how it’s received when they are side by side
@@JSS Me too. What is the target market of people that would pay 45k to 58k for a two row mid size SUV that wouldnt buy a Lexus/Acura on one end and a CRV/Rav4 on the other end? Hoping Mazda did their homework on this bet.
Let’s assume you are a 50+ year old customer. Your kids are not coming back to the nest, you know you will never need that third row. Why to bother logging around that extra weight?
It’s nice to step out of our own persona and imagine that the customer base is people from all walks of life… not an individual upset CZcams commenter.
@@David_Journey im not upset at all. Im just concerned this upper middle class perdon with a empty nest exists.
@@asilva106 for budget oriented customers the RWD platform brings extra cost. They would look for a CX-5/50 rather any day.
Also the cost of platform development means pressure on business to make the cost of new platform back… these first model years are that time to shine as a product.
Its NOT exciting to know that Amazin is now going to monitor me , including listening and watching me every minute Im driving now. The surveillance State is now complete, its inside your car now. The only place it has left to conquer is your bathroom.
So why get a CX-70 if it is the same price as the CX-90, just without the third row. Get a CX-90 and not use the third roll.
The only reason to get a CX70 would be to get the special copper color.
it is a pretty color...bet the CX90 will eventually get it.
Jonathan was the only CZcamsr that I saw that said (waaaay back when) the CX-70 was going to be a two row CX-90. Very few believed that Mazda had an answer for a question no one was asking.
I agree the pricing will increase on the 2025 CX-90 which will make sense comparing the same model year.
I'm a bit disappointed the Machine Gray Metallic isn't offered (it seems to be in Canada). I like the black but worried it would be hard to keep clean, and concerned the Polymetal may be too light and not contrast with the red seats as good as the black/machine gray.
Jonathan - Any word on when these will be allocated to dealers/start showing up on lots for the Spring trims?
If you choose the CX70 over the CX90 you won’t always have to be the “carpool guy” when there’s 6 people going !!
Hey Jonathan, are you certain that the 12.3 inch infotainment display is now standard on all CX-70 trims?
On Mazda's site it says that it's only available on the signature trim when I try to build one.
Are you in the US?
CX-70/90
I wonder if they realize that amazon Alexa is a deal breaker for some. I paid more for a smart home tech without Alexa or Google built in, and unless I can get the hardware physically disabled for Alexa, I will just not buy a competing vehicle rather than deal with an always on know bad actor such as Alexa,Siri, or Google smart assistants.
Any idea when the 2025 CX-50 will come out?
I think end of Summer.
@@JSS Thanks!
Tell us how you really feel.
There is already 4k discounts on the 90 how are they going to sell the 70’s 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I’m really curious to have both and see what consumers pick.
@@JSS idk Jon there are already so many configurations for the 90 as it is now you add more to the mix 😂 Mazda is really playing with fire here this can really backfire I hope not but judging by the comments on most of videos I have watched it doesn’t look good.
@@tommy13965that’s the beauty of it, by having a different model you can make the conversation simple. Versus bloating the trim lines for CX-90 and mixing in more for 2-row
What poor product plans by Mazda
You mean Mazda isn't gonna have a CX-70 commercial with a bunch of excited girls counting USB outlets as for the CX-90?
Phrase that comes to my mind is “Lazy Lazy Lazy” i hope it fails
I can get a new Santa FE Limited (turbo engine) with 3 rows cheaper than a CX-70 2 row.
First comment!! Jolly good update Jonathan!! 👍
Thank you!
SMH... cx-70 should be cheaper period. Unless you love the cx-70 styling why would anyone pay MORE for less? I fear there will be few buyers of the cx-70 - ifsa eprice justget the cx-90...I was hoping for a smaller and lighter vehicle than my cx-90, and getting better fuel economy and more PHEV range.
With this logic coupe (2-door) body style should be cheaper than sedan (4-door)… price depends of projected sales volume, right?
That amazon alexa spy is not needed, if agree push👍
Same prices. Of course, it is the same vehicle/model.
🤣 I still thought CX-70 would be a little less. That may happen in 2025
Do you think it would be easier for people to understand an extended list of CX-90 trims than the current choice?
Please send your resume to Mazda Corporate. They may use your help in their next naming decisions.
It’s good to split the upset about CX-70 dimensions being the same, versus what is the easiest way to market for the selection of models that Mazda chose to bring to US market…
Mazda line up is a joke