What Bioshock Infinite COULD Have Been
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- čas přidán 19. 04. 2019
- I break down the 2010 gameplay demo of Bioshock Infinite in order to determine what aspects of the game that were advertised are missing from the final game, and how they would have made a great game amazing if they were included.
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The version we got was a 7/10. The version we could've had was an 11/10.
Seeing this footage again makes me think "This could be done". A big open world with lots of verticality, emergent gameplay and a colorful art style. That's basically Breath of the wild. Obviously Bioshock and Zelda are two very different games and Nintendo has a lot more time, money and experience to make such a game, but this demo isn't a pipe dream. The next bioshock could be like this.
Yeah also that footage reminds me of Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart imo Cause there was just so much stuff going on the screen!
The 2010 and 2011 demos were masterpieces if they woulve kept that creepy darker atmosphere in the final game . i would rank bioshock infinite as the GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME!!! IT COULD HAVE BEEN THAT!!! i believe it with all my heart. The early development of the game was just so rare and a wolrld i fell in love with.
Definitely. The demo is what got me into the Bioshock series as a whole
Nothing will beat the original bioshock. In fact i dont think infinite was anywhere near as good.
@@handsomejack5787 it could of been 😔
@@handsomejack5787 In Denial. Bioshock infinites gameplay is a lot more fun and engaging. I get you liked rapture better but that shouldn’t be the only thing that makes you not like this game
@@greenxstealth322 that’s the thing tho I didn’t like Rapture better. What I did like better was the gun play , the plasmids, the atmosphere and the story.
We need a “Levine cut” of this game similar to the Snyder cut or ghost of Tsushima directors cut/death stranding
I’m still pining for both this and the 2011 versions of the game. I personally prefer the 2011 demo, but either way, both the 2010 and 2011 demos are beyond what we got in 2013.
To me the biggest letdown was not the plot but the dumbed down mechanics.
Compare the map of the 2011 demo with any level in the final game.
No verticality, no complex skyrail system, it is basically juat a corridor shooter with a few sections where the rails are used and even then most of the rails never go as high or as far as the ones in that demo.
My god, the fact that we didn’t get THAT version of Bioshock infinite still depresses and pisses me off after so many years.
It's crazy how even over 10 years later I can still watch these demos and get really excited. It's a testament to how good this game could have been. Hopefully this next BioShock can deliver what Infinite couldn't but we'll see.
now that ken Levine has effectively "retired" Irrational studios, there's no hope for Bioshock 4
bioshock 4 is literally in the works as we speak. but yeah, won't be the same. Ken Levine was what made the first installment and infinite great to begin with.
2k and Cloud chamber studios is doing 4
@@andreastrulsson8862 i dont see how it can be as good. We'd never seen a world quite like Rapture and it will take a very special game to even equal it.
What we need is a remake of bioshock infinite; giving us players what was shown in the 2011 gameplay trailer not the 2010 one since the 2011 one had high vertical levels with roller coaster skylines and it can be done because it’s 2023 and the PC’s and consoles we have now are twice as powerful than the Xbox 360 and PC’s that were around back then, a whopping 12 years and in recent times video games have been getting remakes so really it’s not a stretch to say and to hope that eventually bioshock infinite gets a remake with the skyscrapers and vertical levels
For those who didn't notice the flares that call the zeplin in the demo are still in the game and are only used when you reach the roof tops heading to monunent island
Good video, but when Bookers grabs the Murder of Crows Vigor, grabs the guys shotgun, and catches the artillery guns shellfire that’s all one vigor called Telekinesis. Unfortunately it got cut, it was also a holdover from the very first BioShock. Sucks that they cut it out of the game cause in the first BioShocks it’s the funnest power to use. The way way in which it was seemingly expanded here in this demo makes its removal all the more disheartening.
Bioshock is my favorite franchise, i love infinity but.....the demos really have a bioshock vibe on them more than the game we got.
Man I liked the idea of a political steam punk RPG game instead of the time traveling journey of a father I also liked the sorta America is sorta a Mecca or Jerusalem of these Capitalistic oligarchs and the heavy racist imagery it looked so surreal but instead we got a pretty damn fine game that felt like a crime flick I mean your being chased the whole time in this game
Yeah I agree with all of that. Just a bit too linear for how cool the setting was
@@VirulenttWolf again exactly
Bioshock infinite came out 14 years to early smh
Ken Levine tweeted in early January of this year that Elizabeths story was to be told differently at one time and maybe one day he will tell that story.
@@dboygamer8184 Yeah this is Ken levine were talking about.
The Bioshock we see in this video was probably a third of what he wanted even back then.
I definitely prefer the gameplay of the 2011 demo to this one. This one is fabulous, don't get me wrong, but just the level of choice is amazing in the 2011 demo. And that demo still had the type of sprawling "realistic" Skylines you praised this one for instead of the looped versions in battle arenas.
I also am not sure this version of Elizabeth's powers would have been great either. It basically turns fights into QuickTime events to match a Vigor with whatever Elizabeth was giving you. That doesn't sound fun to me. I think the Tears are better, especially in the 2011 demo.
Bioshock 2 had the Songbird problem with the Big Sister. They wanted there to only be one, so you'd fight her and but she'd always get away, just like you're proposing with Songbird. Apparently that just wasn't very satisfying so they made Big Sister not a specific character but just what Rapture did with any Little Sister who lived long enough to stop being a good Adam factory.
Infinite Should of waited for ps4 and Xbox one to release honestly
Ya I love Elizabeth but everything else about Infinite felt like they lied to me.
Even when I first started the game, I was thinking the graphics looked way worse than what I've seen.. I was really upset with how the sky rails were all just small loops.
And hated how vigors just seemed to be there. They played no real part in the story. You don't really see people using them or anything.
How different things were in the early betas, makes me wonder if the story was changed too. Comstock looked younger, and Booker looked different too. So it makes me wonder, was the plot twist of Comstock being Booker always planned since the start?
No it was a different story line and Comstock was just a politician in Columbia not the prophet
@@peepeepoopooguy6969 Yet in the early betas, we still see Comstock sharing extremely religious views and also acts very racist.
@@mikeykitty1235 doesn't make him the prophet but he still had power but still he was just a politician a power full one just no the one who ran Columbia
@@peepeepoopooguy6969 Yet, according to the final game, there's over 122 realities where Booker failed at his mission, and we do later see a version of Elizabeth in her beta design. So this means that the whole "Booker is Comstock" twist still applies to these early versions, which, according to the final game, are indeed canon. Which means that there was a version of Booker who was converted to a religion and changed his name to Comstock, yet instead of proclaiming himself as a prophet, he became a gonvernment official (Maybe because of the Battle of Wounded Knee) and ends up funding the Columbia project.
You would of started with telekinesis as your power and booker would of been a special person with powers like Elizabeth
Funnily enough, I was discussing how this game turned out with my mother the other day. We both have our crafting hobbies, and the thread that brought me to the subject was the sort of single-minded fixation on a particular aspect of any project; and how that can make or break it. I remember that there seemed to be that sort of fixation with Elizabeth, and I think that is what ultimately held the game back.
It's a fun game, and I'm not going to knock the devs for hitting a stumbling block, but Infinite could have been so much more than what it was.
this can so be made now with these new consoles - lets crowd fund this and get a team to make this version lol
I’m down
@@VirulenttWolf its the 22nd its been 11 years since that first demo
Thats why I was looking it up and man.. I love the feel and atmosphere of the 2010 demo I want it so badly.. Imagine if this came out now... Halo Infinite is going with that open world approach imagine if this game was coming out now and had the same approach go to different areas and team up with certain characters before hitting key missions to find Elizabeth
I'm in
Song Birds should have been Bald Eagle themed Big Daddy's that are tasked with bringing in Elizabeth
Bruh I just saw the lack of views and subs and I was chocked... bruh how has this not been watched by more
Thank you!
I saw your Saboteur video I think I will buy it. I never heared about it so now i did :) Maybe you should do a video about Mafia 1 or 2 that are also very great games or even the Brothers in Arms games.
Pretty sure getting this to run on an Xbox 360 and released on time would require a lot more time and different hardware. So compromises were made for consoles. This happens with most major game development without unlimited funding for perpetual development like Star Citizen.
The demos was running on high-end PCs, not xbox 360 era console debug units.
As fun as the game we got was, it did feel lacking.
Bioshock 1 & 2 you had choices regarding morality and survival, while not major plot changers, these choices shaped the world around you. How people respond to you, the ending you got.
Infinite, doesn’t really have these choices. It has a couple of them but he story remains unchanged outside of a line or two of dialogue immediately after the event.
In Bioshock 2 you can be completely merciful, do whatever you must to survive (harvest little sisters but spare major characters), be kind yet vengeful (spare little sisters but kill major characters). Or be completely merciless. And the ending, game and atmosphere changes accordingly.
No matter what happens in infinite you’ll always get the same end and follow the same story. The other two gave a bit of repayablity as you could go back and use different approaches and see different outcomes.
With any luck given time they may come back with a remade or updated version like they did the other two, and change things to reflect newer systems and their capabilities like RE does with their remakes. Perhaps, there is a slim chance we may one day receive this version.
I honestly like the first 2 Bioshock games more, in those games you can Cary an arsenal of Firepower. Unlike in BioShock Infinite where you're stuck only using two guns at a time, which could be annoying sometimes.
The Saltonstall scene could easily have been in game, but it was cut for whatever reason.
It's a shame, my game could have been better
I have no idea why they changed those game mechanics. This game could have been truly a masterpiece in gaming. But the finished product felt way too controlled.
Imo i feel like this could legit get made by an indie team with like 10 years on the line
Too bad the game ended up become a very big MEH for me, 2 is still my fav
I enjoyed one and 2. 1 a tad bit more but I think the combat was way better in 2 for sure. Really enjoyed it. Infinite was gold but was not really a bioshock game to me
The atmosphere of both was great, but I enjoyed Columbia and its inherent creepy jingoism more than Rapture personally
10:12 Ever realized the Sky-Lines use the old Beta version in this segment?
I can’t wait for a new Bioshock game on PS5 and XSX they can do so much now with these new consoles.
As a fan who, some how didn't see the demo. I hope they don't do this same crap to bioshock "4" , cause the linear game play is also what ruined it for me too.
Bioshock was linear but the best game ever made.
Besutiful video. Great commentary.
The number of games limited because consoles couldnt handle it. Damn shame. A double edged sword. On the other hand Sony/ms refusing pc to have better graphics because they cant have a competing platform be better.
The world design and political aspects, storytelling were so much better. A shame it was lost.
This is the remake we need if any.
Current remake remaster culture ruins the art direction of the original because people dont understand what makes the original good anymore.
The add stuff for the sake of it and showing off their egos.
Great example is re4 remake ruining the design of the original in many ways.
Electric underground has great videos explaining.
Re4hd mod forever our savior.
Thanks for bringing this masterpiece of the original vision up again.
Love and blessings!
This was a PS3/360 game. This demo was never going to be realistic for those platforms. Too big of draw distance and too much going on for those platforms to handle
Old one yes but like I said before and I say it again it's not like you could just ask them to make a better version of it. I mean it be so easy so simple before even pushing through that New generation console forever at least they would even think I'm making this as a farewell gift like recreate it's mistake. But who would have both the money, the skill, the patients, And finally to stay on target onto the story now I wouldn't even trust this with any sort of game developer.
i did find video forgotten games for bioshock infinite others and failen bioshock movie
Y'know, the released game should've left out the "both siding" of the slave vs. slave master thing
it sucks to see people like this guy bashing the bioshock infinite we got, and preaching about how much the demo's were superior. the xbox 360 could not handle most of what irrational planned for infinite. it's not like they had infinite time, and money to release the game when better hardware came out. yes the game we got was not the one we were promised. but irrational had no other choice but to massively downgrade it, if they wanted to see the game actually get released. large video game studios need money to operate like everything else. so at end of the day, the people in charge have to make sacrifices to hopefully keep their business running.
Remember the original bioshock demos. They were graphically better than what was released but the finished game was almost perfect.