An Anglo-Indian Upbringing
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- The dictionary defines Anglo-Indian as 'a person of English citizenship born or living in India'.
Those of us with a smidgeon of colour certainly tried to live up to that description, even if it meant denial of the very coalescence that should have made us proud.
The time has come to fly our flag with dignity.
How lovely to hear about someone from Jamalpur (Bihar) I was born in Jamalpur just after the Earthquake. My dad was on the Railway, and i grew up roaming the Mango orchards, climbing the hills i just loved swimming at the Institute. Now all I can do is dream about those carefree happy days. Thank you for the memories.
I think you would find your childhood inRuskin Bond's writings...
I am so fascinated by the history & culture of the Anglo-Indians
@RandhirSingh-xo7th: WHO CARES
This is a great story? I love watching videos like this of fellow Anglo-Indians.
Am excellent interview. A genuine guy. As a child I grew up being close to an Anglo Indian family ( my fathers secretary) who emigrated to Australia in the early 70s. To this day, I have a huge admiration for these wonderful people. We ( as an Indian) lost a community that could have accelerated our integration into the world community. Today, it probably seems anachronistic, but I have always felt that we lost a chance because we were not generous enough to accept them as they were.
Anand Seshadri where did your father work?
In the Indian Foreign Service. He was posted in Colombo and his secretary was Mrs Brown. Also kept up with the Browns when we were all posted back to Delhi. They then moved en mass to Australia.
I agree with you. I have thought that India was enhanced by the presence of many Anglo-Indian communities. My great grandfather and his father were both in the police force in Bangalore. Many good things happened in India like the education system and the health service. Doctors in India can train there in the NHS and come to Britian to work. I was born in England. I see every day the effects of India and Britain's relationship. Would so many Indian's and Pakistani families settled in the UK if the British had not been in India? All these cultures have contributed towards one another. Yes, there has been blood shed. But mainly the exchange has been positive. I like to look to all the positive sides. The trauma of Brit's being kicked out of India still exists today. But I think it is time to stop vilifying the White man and blaming the white man for all the worlds ills.
Thank you for your excellent comments about us Anglo Indians. We appreciate your feedback on this issue. Nice to have people who understand us Thank you again
There are still many Anglo Indians living throughout India
What i like about this interview is the total honesty of the man! He does not shy away from telling us of all the racial prejudices of the Raj and the dreadful racial hierarchies which dehumanise and brutalise us into thinking and doing unspeakable things against other human beings! After all , if one categorises the other as subhuman or insect, then it becomes so much easier to externimate them isnt it? These issues Peter Moss has taken head on with courage and honesty.The all pervading atmosphere of racism in which the Raj thrived is difficult to imagine today in India. Well done Peter and God bless you for your honesty and frankness!
Thank you Rameez. I really appreciate that.
Wish that they held interviews like this today.
And trust me the golden Era is not over its on our hands to hold and show the world what Anglo Indians are ... I have every one at work be it my juniors .. seniors or my bosses all have a lot of respect and think twice when they talk to me ... I always state Anglo Indians....... nobody can match them in the world and I AM ONE OF THE LIVING EXAMPLES ... AND SUCH A RACE !!!!
Lovely interview, eloquently spoken.
Def enjoyed watching and learning about your life.
Really enjoyed this interview! Thank you!
This just showed up today on CZcams while I was scrolling. Peter was such a sweet, brilliant guy. I have been Facebook friends with him a few years.
The best the best interview.....enjoyed his honesty..... amazing
Such an interesting story - it resonates so much with my early childhood in India and subsequent experiences in the UK, New Zealand and Australia. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us Peter.
Really interesting -thank you so much for sharing this.
I thoroughly enjoyed listening to your recountal, beautiful, thank you so much. I am writing about my Anglo Indians mother Life and mine and this helps me a lot. All the very very Best to you!
Beautiful I love this interview by Mr. Peter Moss.
Great to hear your story Mr Moss :)
Mr.Peter Moss.My respects to you.Thanks for reviving a few memories, I am 69.Remember clearly to have halted in a railway bungalow in Tundla(had forgotten about this place) in 1960 or so ,at a friends place so as to catch next days train to some place in UP.The town was clean spick and span and so was the station .I guess most of trains were driven by Anglo Indians ;sticklers for punctuality. Much later in seventies came across ,while in armed forces a very fine old man (bachelor) an AI by name Freddie whose only regret was that he could not join railways as a driver though he was very well placed.Sounds all weird now but shows intertwining of a community's thought process of yesteryears with a profession as such.I was quite lucky to have had a number of Anglo friends in armed forces. Mind you,a very good number of AIs had joined armed forces and did very well.There should be a good number even now.God bless you Mr .Peter Moss ,wherever you are.
I wonder why no one has thought about the Anglo's of Hyderabad and Vizag.
I've lived half of my life with Anglo Indians in Bombay, Chennai, Bangalore and Calcutta. In fact I'm married to an Anglo Indian girl from Hyderabad because of my love for them. Alas! They've gone to greener pastures. They're one motley bunch. Oh how I miss their company. All gone "phut"
Thanks to CZcams and Facebook, I find I'm now in touch with an extensive Anglo Indian community, spread across the world.
Thank you for reminding me of the expression "Phut". I'm anglo too living in Bangalore of Portugese lineage. ❤️
So fascinating!
No matter where one escapes one can never rid oneself of his/ her roots.... and it's no use ignoring them either.... I wonder what the current Indian kids of parents who have migrated to other countries for greener pastures or better living will feel when they are all grown up and have their own grandchildren... their family in India spread out, and with the older lot dead, no common connections..
Am so full of respect for Mr Moss... he has a love and a respect for his roots and family history that is very touching. God bless you Sir!
Rest in peace respected sir . You were very good friend of ours and you will always live in the hearts of the mighty oakgrovians .
Love you sir .
Peter Moss , one of the the pillars on which Oakgrove once stood ! As an OakGrovian , I pay my homage to this grand ole man from Oakgrove ! RIP!
It's wonderful to know about the Anglo, the great video I love it,
Loved your story Peter. A fellow Anglo-Indian from Calcutta living in Canada (with plenty of cousins in England and Australia). Love my heritage and especially our fusion recipes.
I am from allahabad, india ,my maternal great grandmother used to work as a house maid for a British family,before departing the British family transferred their allahabad cantonment home to my maternal great grandmother , the house and my extended family still lives there . my father also worked in the railways,andsome of the houses are still made of British times.
Gore saab ka dil bohut baraa tha. 😅
@@ustinov10 EXACTLY THEY WERE GENEROUS. They knew what would happen once the Indians took over. Everything turns to slums.
Love your documentary Sir, you spoke about Jamalpur, would you know any Gaynor's there???
Loved watching and, yes, I listened carefully. It was almost like you were reading my mind. Writing about Cantonments and WW1 based stories based on my late father's memories. Thank you. Kipling or was it Mark Twain ??? quote East is East and West is West and never the twain shall meet is no longer in vogue. I am a prime example.
Glad you liked it. Your late father might well have been a contemporary of mine in India.
I,too, had a relative who had migrated to Australia from Calcutta. Her name was, or is, Norma, and her maiden name was Boswell or Boswell. She had a brother called Laddie who had gone to Canada. How can I get more information? They were from my father’s side.
My father was Shirley Walker Heppolette, born in Calcutta and his father was Benjamin.
My mother, Zena Iris Browne, was brought up by her grandmother, Theadosha Leonora Browne or was it Alvira Thathyra(could have been her grandmother) and they lived on 14, Howes(not sure of Howe’s spelling) Lane. It was a cul de sac. My mother’s father was Horace Browne, who had been Chartered Accountant for the Indian Board of Trade for forty years. I have no information or history on any of these people and wondered where I could obtain it.
I love his book "Distant Archipelagos"! Wonderful stories about the Orient at the sunset of British influence.
Britain has never considered ‘Anglo-Indians’ as being anything other than useful, migrant, low-waged workers of the Raj and Britain forgot them some time before 1947. Britain didn’t care then and hasn’t cared since. The only people who have ever really cared about AIs, are AIs and their servants. Once the currently aged generation has gone, it’ll all be an anecdote. Quite why any AI still considers Britain as some sort of Maternal haven, bewilders me.
A comedy of errors, errors on the part of the British powers that be and their ‘grand’ design to create or procreate a new community that would owe their allegiance to them and yet remain where they were to ‘carry on’ in the wake of their departure. One of the reasons that most AngloIndians tend to sweep any mention of Indian ancestry under the carpet.
Just like me most of the actual Anglo Indians are of Britist heritage and have British blood flowing in them .For which Iam very proud of
@grantpage3703 you are very proud because your great great grandfather was a thief who looted your great great grandmother's land and your paternal lineage had abandoned you. Nothing to proud of. Britisher could have taken you but they didn't they considered your as second class. Even parsi immigrated to india but they work for this nation they should be proud of and we are also proud of our parsi community. History is a fact and no one can change it. 😂😂
@@grantpage3703 exactly! well said! Indians never cared about us. We do better outside of india.
@LysanderLH: absolute rubbish. We moved away from India & have never done better. We have high paying jobs, beautiful homes in beautiful surroundings unlike the high end high rises in India nestled among the slums.
I have heard the interview at least 10 times and It has so much depth and real facts that all Anglo Indians should listen too ...the period of the golden era and the dark side too.... Over all but still one can learn so much just by listening to the interviews on Anglo Indians... A race of the world and yet so different and distinct !!!!
Anglo Indians ....
+Alfred Stark Glad you enjoyed it Alfred. Yes, a golden era, but also with its dark side.
+Peter Moss.............. Yes...you are absolutely correct... I have been reading about Anglo Indians for
years at least 20 years ... Since I am one too... and very proud of it...when I hear Anglo Indian It’s like a drug for me .which I cannot without…I hear any interview ..Stories based on Anglo Indians.. I have Jillian Haslam, Michael J
Robertson...my parents of course and many other know people including you, who inspire me in this world. I am from the family and blood line of Herbert Alick Stark... the writer...of Hostages To India. He wrote 9 books out of which only 4 got published....and with years I have written so many articles and stories which I put up at ... FB a page known as The Anglo Indian Community-1 ...Where I have Anglo Indians from all over the world ... I till date when asked from where are you I first state I am an Anglo Indian and feel very proud of it ... now I am working as a HOD in a FORTUNE 100 company of the world and no matter what happens I encourage Anglo Indians .. I do fire them when required but I only and only and will encourage my community and my race... Years ago mum and dad stated there are no people like Anglo Indians in the world and that is embed in my blood!!!!
+Alfred Stark Alfred, if you contact me through petermoss@yahoo.com I can let you have the full text.
+Peter Moss Alright sure I will ....and thank you for your corporation. I have sent you an email for the same ....
As Indians become more assertive please accept the fact your Indian part is not to be sneezed at.
I found out last year that I have British/Dutch ancestors from a DNA testing. My parents are both from the state of Gujarat and their hometowns are an hour away from Surat which was home to the East India Company before moving to Mumbai. My parents are considered the Gujarati's from South Gujarati and it was heavily occupied by the Dutch, but mostly British. The DNA testing confirmed that I am also multicultural and carry DNA eye colors of blue and green. I told my parents about the results that we have British/Dutch family ties and it was a very good test because it answered some questions about the bloodline although there is no names, records, pictures, or anything to would give further information.
An interesting lineage, Larissa. Guess I should get my DNA tested.
Peter Moss Yes, you should. I highly recommend it. I also found out that I had ancestors from Africa, Middle East, Eurasia, Pacific Oceania, and North America. Trading was important part of South Gujarat and Mumbai area therefore it explains some reasons for multiracial ancestors. I took into consideration of natural disasters, wars, conquests, and such as factors for my ancestors traveling in India and other places. Do take a DNA test and do share the results online if you would like to your viewers. Take Care and thanks for the response. By the way, Late Princess Diana was Gujarati. Her 5th generation grandmother was half Gujarati from Surat. There were articles on that and a video about that news report I think in 2013.
Your right there about Late Princess Di. Regards your DNA there would be many like you. I am the 4th Generation, my son is the 5th Generation still residing in India.
Try the church!😅
Proud to be an Anglo Indian 🥰
Are you from Calcutta?😅
@@jimreid6370 yes
So good!
Belonging to a leniage who looted india. yes, you should be proud.
I have had many anglo indian friends. Truly great people.
Very interesting! I am from South Africa and am 5th generation South african indian. My grandmother had blond hair, blue eyes and white skin, her father also had these traits, my dad inherited these features too (though he has brown hair not blond), here we are considered white by most people, I have no idea what background my grandmother was, but only that her family came from India. We suspect that they were anglo indians also. Any thoughts on this?
it a nice story my nan was a anglo indain and her mum and dad were born anglo indain.they were Armenian indain British and Portuguese. My great great grandad mother was famous she was a survivor of cawnpore mutinèy 1857 .My nan came to England when her parents died and fell in love with a English man and married him .
Peter, I believe that TWO of my paternal great-great grandparents were Anglo-Indians from the West Bengal region, specifically Calcutta. There names were Catherine Rose Ann Wilson and John Cameron, do you know of any Anglo-Indian families with the surname Wilson or Cameron?
As was the case with most railway families we knew. However, being only 11 when we left India, I can't recall any by those names.
Peter Moss Fair enough, but do you also know if it's true that Anglos were more open to marriage and children with people of other ethnicities due to their already mixed status and Christian religion?
An admirably cosmopolitan quality with which I am entirely in accord, since my own fairly wide circle of friends are indeed of other ethnicities.
+Peter Moss Btw, your accent doesn't sound Indian at all. It sounds completely English
Hi I'm Patrick Steele born in siliguri West Bengal, my siblings studied in St. Thomas School Kidderpore. There were the "CAMERON" family in Calcutta. email: whatsurbusiness@gmail.com
Very interesting..
dear friend you have had a amazing life, being brought up under empire, i know full well what great memories and stories you have witnessed, my uncle being a doctor of science his work saw him travel the globe, postings in hong kong in the 50s then my uncle married in England, and then little maxmillian came along his 1st born. he was once again on the move to british columbia in the late 60s early 70s. with his new family and wife, working in canada . then came along a second child jane. once again another move and
new jobs to savior, this time he found himself in malaysia, Penang, where he worked in a rubber plantation as head scientist, the man who made the rubber we all use to this day whether it be car tyres to wellington boots, he stayed on into his 80yrs retiring there and re marrying a chinese lady who he spent his later life with until his timely death at aged 87. the stories were wonderfull as a teenager i was thrilled by hi life, it was something out of a passage to india, i have lovely memories of him, he had such a great live lived to the full, your story has brought all the momories flooding back, deep affection MR Moss. you life sounds very interesting indeed, all best. from the UK. PS MY UNCLE AND MYSELF ARE HALF DUTCH HALF ENGLISH
I am of Anglo-Indian descent, United Kington citizen living in the United States.
Good to know that so many of us are, Ellen.
I'm also of Anglo indian decent! My grandad was born in meerut in 1933! Moved to uk in late forties. He married my grandma not long after arriving here! His name was william George smith, had a brother Kenneth and his dad was william smith and mum was angle smith née Blake. I'd love to find any family members, wether in uk or India! I'm proud of my roots and proud to be of Anglo indian decent!
@sbalaji2019 it is yes... in the state of Uttar Pradesh
Hi Mr. Peter, I really relate to your story, my grand father was in the railways, he was in the British army before he joined the Indian railways when my great grand father left him here because my grand father never wanted to return back to Britain.. we were in Bihar to Lucknow!! It was such a pleasure to know you..
Glad to learn we have so much in common Annette. Thanks for connecting.
Hello Mr Moss, I love listening to your interview and to be honest, I think every A.I has a similar story to tell & most common with every A.I across our country India. Some (A.I) gone back to their homelands (where their ancestors came from) and others choose to stay back and made home here in India. My email:whatsurbusiness@gmail.com Mr. Alfred Stark you may email me if required.
Ms. Brookes, so good to read comments from like minded Anglo Indians in India. Actually, they were the backbone of the railways. It the engine driver was an Anglo, one could expect the train to be on time, always.
@@petermoss4600 Do you have relatives in Calcutta
You should put together a family history as I would think records in India will be well maintained. It might mean weeks looking at original documents as I doubt if they are on fiche or certainly not digitised.
Trying to do just that Graeme.
I will be going to the National Archives in Scotland in September as well as the Mitchell Library in Glasgow. I love searching through old records.
+Graeme Laird ..You are absolutely correct !!!
Hi Mr Graeme I hope your well and good where are you now still in Malaysia?
The definition need to be corrected. An Englishman who marry an Indian Woman out of this relationship the offspring born known as Anglo-Indian. These half breed quite prevalent due to introduction of Warren Hasting policy during 18th Century; One of his officer Kirkpatrick who fallen in love with Hyderabad Nawab's daughter and produce few offspring that was first recorded incident of Anglo-Indian breed. For an Brits these community a go between local Indians and British officers who kept these Anglo-Indians to Arm length.
If you see Indians writing hateful speech on Anglo Indian youtube videos then please complain to youtube
Interesting insights.
Some Britishers married & most just lived with or used native women to meet their needs which included even cooking & cleaning.. Extremely rare was an average native marrying or living with a white.
Though extremely rich men like Maharaja of Patiala had a palace full of white women. This is one of the reasons why many locals from that region have light color eyes and many are so light skinned.
Fact is that during British raj more often than not it was not a fairytale romance btw a white man and a native woman. Women were for entertainment & very often abandoned esp when with child. Read some of the old books by authors like Ruskin Bond who made Mussoorie India their home.
Gerard Fullinfaw I think the Anglo Indians are a far more disciplined lot as I experienced in La Martiniere
Angloindian community. contributed a lot in education in Bengal
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Gerard----- Why are you targetting Indians alone? You mean to say Englishmen are not capable pf hate or genocide? thats pretty rich coming from an Anglo!
Can you please watch the documentary on BBC Love and Betrayal in India, The White Mughals HD please? It shows the british and india interaction, anglo indian children from 1800's that anglo indians existed a long time ago.
Some people think that Indians hate Anglo-Indians....that's not true, whatever happened in the past, we accept them as our own.....Even English people ain't pure of their race, they've got completely intermixed with norse vikings 900 yrs ago,...So, no problem Anglo Indian people...India is your home .. -Britain also, if you consider-
REALLY!!
Imigrated to Australia in 1973, my parents and 4 sister, we had my fathers family already here. I've never not acknowledged I'm Anglo Indian, I was 7yr old when we came here. The suburb we lived in was full of Anglo Indians we all gravitated towards each other. My children are proud to say they are Anglo Indian Aussies 😂
@MsVivi66: Best move to Australia. Anglo Indian yes but glad to be living in Australia, would not fare too well in India, not a place to live in if you want a good substantial life. Best move was to go overseas.
Hello Peter, my paternal grandparents were Anglo-Indian, my grandfather was born in Allahabad like yourself, and my grandmother was born in Bangalore. You should do a DNA test, I was 14% Indian, 41% English/Northern European, 35% Irish/Scottish and smaller percentages from other parts of Europe.
My father was in the Airforce, and played the Saxophone in the band, and was a Factory foreman. My twin sister & I were born in Ranchi, two other sisters born in Calcutta and the other Nagpur, by father was born in Bombay. My mother was born in Rangoon.
I think you would find your childhood in Ruskin Bond's writings...
Is this old man dead?@@anutapabhattacharya7541
@@anutapabhattacharya7541 what is that?
@@MsVivi66 better search in Google about Ruskin Bond
hello , jst saw you video .! i am tanya lister and my father and grandfather are angloindians.i dont know much about the community .and barely knew about this .My grandfather was in railways and i would like to know more .kindly help me in knowing more...if you know any LISTER DO TELL ME.
Afraid I can't recall any Listers, Tanya. Ours was a very big and scattered community.
yes indeed and so i am looking out for people from our community .If u have contacts in gujarat do tell me .thanks
I am of Anglo descent also. UK born, migrated to Denmark because I hate what Britain has become. The latest insult in a long line of insults to my family, who we are, and what we represent (or don’t) to our ex-colonial masters. But nice to read positive comments here also from brave and wonderful people.
I'm an Anglo Indian
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Really enjoyed this interview as mine was a similar experience, documented in my book "An Anglo-Indian Childhood". Also have written a follow up about my "English Experience" (unpublished) and then "An American Adventure" (unpublished). I would love to correspond with you if you would like. Shirley Gifford-Pritchard
Thank you. I've written about that childhood in 'ByeBye Blackbird', followed up by two other volumes of autobiography covering my subsequent years in Malaysia and Hong Kong. I'd be happy to correspond by email through petermoss@yahoo.com
+Brian Pritchard ...I would like to read your book tried to open it on Google but was not able to ... what is the website...I would like to read and study your writings ... You are one Anglo who make our race proud !!!!
+Alfred Stark Sorry, Alfred - just saw this. My book is available on amazon.com. Shirley Pritchard
+Brian Pritchard... And as an e-book, too on amazon. Shirley
kapoor move stare
It's not just Tipu Sultan and his father Haider Ali that defeated British Army in India, there was Yashwant Rao Holkar in 1803 at the Battle of Bharatpur and at Delhi also, after which the British and the East India Company came running with a peace treaty to Holkar. Holkar was awarded titles by the Moghal Emperor for defeating the British, for unmasking the veneer of invincibility. Besides Holkar there was Peshwa Baji Rao II who also stalemated and defeated the British Army in the mid 1700s and the British came cowering to the Peshwa. Prior to that when the English were mere merchants at Calcutta but contemplated a fight while the Great Moghal Aurangzeb was on the throne (and India's economy was the preeminent in the world), the Moghal Naval forces destroyed the British naval forces off the west coast of India inflicting severe pain and loss which kept two generations of the English company in India occupied with solely trade matters. So there's a lot of propaganda from the British long before they accused the Nazis and the Commies of propaganda.
@GreatGatling: Blah! Blah! Blah.
great to hear your story,but i have something to say all anglo indians are important to both the countries (england & india)
That's very reassuring Selena. Thank you for pointing it out.
Anglo's don't hold the same status in India compared to their status during the British Raj.
There is a chance this might also be my bloodline anglo indian
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Failed to get your name.
whats with the mellowness ? im an anglo indian myself never as mellow as some other anglo indianda iv seen
In Indian constitution, an Anglo-Indian is the child of a British Father and Indian Mother.
@Paritosh Jadhav really get rid of the constitution you mean???
Every one should watch Hindi movie of "Julie"
No they shouldn’t. It’s derogatory to the Anglo Indians.
@@scpmdt Why should you take it like that? Look at all their affairs.
@@dominicdass9059 who’s affairs?
I am proud of my AI heritage.
this is what you may call a pucca Anglo Indian...this is what the majority of us are like. People should not judge the Anglo community on the basis of the few at Bow Barracks.
Main problem with Anglo Indian community is that they are in-between British and Indian ❗
@sanjeevmukherjee857: & your point is ??
Please tell about Anglo-Indians of Andhra Pradesh
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since 1857 , the sepoy mutiny created a state of war inside the land of teh subcontinent ...this is why railways lines were built adjacent to military barracks ...under the rules of war teh railways were a part of military communications ...
india is still a corporation under war emergency rules ..there was no treaty signed with the belligeerents to end the war ...
..in fact even england is under war emergency powers sincce 1066 ...it is under occupation of roman agents , teh norman descendents ...and their war debt ...
it is illegal in both countires to carry arms ...it is part of military occupation rules ...war on terror or war on terra isthe continuation and globalising of this war ..the war of rome for the resources of this planet , including human resources
utube : luciferian crown empire
All alqeda love british so what can we say?
Caste is a Portuguese word meaning a racial mixture. In Latin America there is a racial hierarchy based on racial “purity”, i.e more European blood is superior. This word was incorrectly applied by the British to India and they wanted to create a Caste hierarchy in India similar to Latin America. Anglo Indian were to be like Mestizos in Latin America. This system didn’t quite work out due to the size of India and also Indians had a grand civilization in the past and had no inferiority complex. Anglo Indians were treated with scorn by the pure white Brit’s but seen as superior to Indians. Proud Hindu Indians rejected this system hence one of the reasons for anti-Hindu hostility.
India already had/has a caste system that's a few thousand years old, the British did what most invaders/conquerors have done throughout history, mate with the indigenous population. The British probably felt some affinity with the Indians, as they could see similarities with their own class system.
@@lesbos1 Everyone has a caste system which is a Portuguese word, what's the point?
@@BigOil18 Nothing, I thought you was one of these Indians who blames the British for your hereditary caste system.
lesbos1 well caste is a Portuguese word so it’s not Indian. Varna and Jati are not caste.
@@BigOil18 It's still a hierarchical hereditary system, and the definition of "caste" (regardless of it's Portuguese roots) when used in the English language would apply to Indian society.
This gentleman certainly looks like an Anglo- Indian. But there are many who has Anglo Indian name and who try to act like Anglo but they look more dark without a scintilla of Gora blood! Absolute laughingstock 😂
I've seen more paler full blooded north indians than most of these anglo Indians.
@barlekha1971: trust an Indian to call someone else dark. What’s with the colour man? It’s the idiocy of Indians calling everyone else dark.