Excellent breakdown! I ruined one of these trying to get clutch off. Turned it in the wrong direction following advice of sales guy. I broke the shaft because he told me the wrong direction to turn. Thank you for taking the time to show this!
Good info to get. I have 2 193T saws that I am wanting to tear down and port. I look forward to your next installment in this saw. Thank you for making this video.
I've never had anything but ms200t and now the G111 clone of the ms200t for a top handle saw, so this is a very interesting difference to the metal housing of the ms200t that I'm use to. I wonder if this design of motor itself is more durable being completely incased in plastic with a smaller bottom end? It seems like it is well protected from outside damage, though I imagine the plastic portions of the saw are likely more costly to replace. Very cool video. 😎👍
@@samishsawworks5870 Yeah it's very similar to the saw you take down here ... a few differences with how the fuel lines are routed to the carb but nothing that majorly different
I would like to ty for taking the time to make this disassemble / reassemble 🤝 I'm a tree climber with a 194t with some nastNess to her after a couple drops she suffered ( 5 to be exact) without me the highest being around 80 ft. I closed my eyes and said there goes $500 she hit the ground still running never shut off until my grond man picked it up cut it off and it's good so I pulled her back up by my rope pulled the rope and finished the rest of the job. With that being said about a year later we both fell 60ft from a pine tree in SC. I landed on my saw (stihl running) I broke my back in 2 places along with other breaks ( I saw God that day ) after 2 weeks and a couple surgeries I walk out of the hospital. After being recovered enough to sort through the damage of my climbing gear I pulled the rope on that 194 it sounded awful for multiple reasons ( starter rope wise ) I took 4 zip ties on each direction I could and 1 pull she was talking some trash to me ( she was ready to go once again) kinda like an old panhead it just had a different sound but she was broken down but I knew she was OK so I located parts here and there and long story short your videos got a team going again I appreciate it. 👍
GOOD VIDEO step by step I enjoyed it very much thank you. ......I like to ask about my Stihl 034 AV it ha s a TILLTSON (?) carburettor the "L" adjusting screw it is all right but the ""H" is a problem ...to get some power I have to screw it all in which it is not right as it suppose to be ONE FULL TURN OUT ...also it makes a lot of smoke ... any suggestions ? Thank you
Would you be able to list the symptoms of a bad impulse line. I’m trying to get a stihl 192tc running correctly. It fails to idle but I can cut if I keep the rpm up but this is indeed dangerous. I’ve replaced the carb and tank vent and other parts. Thanks
Awesome detail. I have 193t. Don’t know much about chainsaw just that it doesn’t want to even crank anymore. Bought it used it started when I bought it now it’s just sitting I tried adjusting the idle screw I did tuneup and I came to a conclusion I think I got a lemon 🍋 chainsaw. Do you know if it’s even worth it to me to buy a rebuilt engine maybe a Chinese engine if they even make them. I did buy a aftermarket carburetor and it did start now it doesn’t? What would you recommend me for this chainsaw I just can’t get rid off I like it to much that I would like it to get it up and running if I can. I paid $250 stihl ms193t used bang up .
Sorry I missed your question months ago. I'm just seeing it now. Not being able to see it first hand, My first step would be to remove the clutch cover and the muffler and see if the cylinder is scored. If it is NOT scored/damaged, then there is little to no reason to buy a rebuilt engine for it, & we can move onto other areas to look. SIDE NOTE: I've never had good luck with aftermarket carburetors on saws. I've been through too many headaches with them. I rebuild the factory carbs, or buy oem factory replacement if needed. There are a lot of other places we can look, but as a second place to look, I would make sure the impulse line is still hooked onto the nipple under the rear handle area (you don't have to have the saw apart to see it) and is in good shape. Shown at the 6:15 mark in this video. The other simple check is spark. If cyl. Is good, impulse line is hooked up, and you have spark, then we can move onto possible fueling issues.
Thanks to your helpful video, I did a disassembly of my 192 to replace all the fuel lines, impulse line and rebuild carb. I found where the nipple on the handle for the impulse line was broke and thought that was my issue. After replacing the handle and putting the saw all back together it still doesn’t run well. Some questions I have. The impulse line that I got from Stihl was noticeably smaller diameter but I was able to get it on the nipples. I’m concerned that it is a restriction and also I’m surprised there aren’t gaskets on both sides of the carburetor. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you for the video.
Sorry I didn't see your comment sooner. Not sure if this is still relevant or not. Is the inner diameter of the impulse line smaller, or just the outside? You can just replace the impulse line with fuel line of larger inner diameter if it's a point of concern, but outside of being pinched, it should be providing enough pulse for the carb to pump fuel. Did you make sure the fuel line are hooked up correctly on the primer bulb? There are no gaskets on the carburetor. The air filter side of the carb, where the plastic filter holder mates up to the carb, doesn't have to be an air tight seal. Where the carb mates to the saw, the rubber intake boot should protrude through the plastic saw housing. The rubber flange of the intake boot is what the carb seals against. No gaskets needed. I would make sure that the rubber intake boot flange is flat against the saw housing and is in good Shape. The 192t are also notorious for having bad accelerator pumps in the carburetors. www.chainsawcollectors.se/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?t=16521
The theory (I believe) is that it bleeds off compression for starting, but once running at 10k+ rpm, the compression loss is negated. I can not imagine what Stihl's reasoning behind it was. It's a 30cc saw for crying out loud. Anyway, they have a considerable less amount of compression. Stock for stock I'm not sure if there is a huge noticeable difference. (I've never ran them stock) Once you give them a muffler mod and timing advance there is definitely a difference between the two. If I had to rebuild, I'd definitely go with the older style cylinder. If I had one currently with the groove, I'd just run it.
Nice video, Would you know is the plastic brake handle is the same part # on the MS192T , MS193T and MS194T.? part # 1137 792 9100 ? my 194T broke off and can only seem to find that # for the 192T and 193T
Thank you. You did an outstanding job working and explaining your actions without talking me to death.
Excellent breakdown! I ruined one of these trying to get clutch off. Turned it in the wrong direction following advice of sales guy. I broke the shaft because he told me the wrong direction to turn. Thank you for taking the time to show this!
Aw man, sorry to hear that. That's rough. I feel for ya.
Thank you, great instructions and knowledge for dismantling. I'm needing to replace the piston. With a whole new piston kit.
Great filming, excellent tutorial on tear down
Good info to get. I have 2 193T saws that I am wanting to tear down and port. I look forward to your next installment in this saw. Thank you for making this video.
Thank you very much for the explanations. I no longer knew the location of a pipe, now I know ;-) ...
I am writing from a translator, you have an interesting channel, I subscribed) Keep up the good work. You are doing great. From Russia with love😂
Thank you very much!
I've never had anything but ms200t and now the G111 clone of the ms200t for a top handle saw, so this is a very interesting difference to the metal housing of the ms200t that I'm use to.
I wonder if this design of motor itself is more durable being completely incased in plastic with a smaller bottom end? It seems like it is well protected from outside damage, though I imagine the plastic portions of the saw are likely more costly to replace.
Very cool video. 😎👍
great video man. I'm deep into a 194t and this is a big help
I honestly haven't had a 194t apart myself, but my best guess is that there are SOME similarities at the very least. Glad some of it might help.
@@samishsawworks5870 Yeah it's very similar to the saw you take down here ... a few differences with how the fuel lines are routed to the carb but nothing that majorly different
@@metaspencerwhere did you get the replacement engine for the 194t?
I would like to ty for taking the time to make this disassemble / reassemble 🤝
I'm a tree climber with a 194t with some nastNess to her after a couple drops she suffered ( 5 to be exact) without me the highest being around 80 ft. I closed my eyes and said there goes $500 she hit the ground still running never shut off until my grond man picked it up cut it off and it's good so I pulled her back up by my rope pulled the rope and finished the rest of the job. With that being said about a year later we both fell 60ft from a pine tree in SC.
I landed on my saw (stihl running) I broke my back in 2 places along with other breaks ( I saw God that day ) after 2 weeks and a couple surgeries I walk out of the hospital. After being recovered enough to sort through the damage of my climbing gear I pulled the rope on that 194 it sounded awful for multiple reasons ( starter rope wise ) I took 4 zip ties on each direction I could and 1 pull she was talking some trash to me ( she was ready to go once again) kinda like an old panhead it just had a different sound but she was broken down but I knew she was OK so I located parts here and there and long story short your videos got a team going again I appreciate it. 👍
I hope you are doing better Erik. You sure did not need that fall, I know.
bravo vidéo parfaite avec toute les étapes pour un bon démontage
New sub, thanks for doing this series of videos! This will be a big help when I start on my 192! Thanks again!👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
Man you were awesome help can't thank you enough you are unbelievable thank you so much
Thank you
Great video. Very helpful
Excellent information thankyou very much
I would love to have my 192 ported. more power up the tree never hurts. no one around me does them
Interesting how they pack that in there. Cant wait to see the next video in the series. That intake is restricted a good bit.
GOOD VIDEO step by step I enjoyed it very much thank you. ......I like to ask about my Stihl 034 AV it ha s a
TILLTSON (?) carburettor the "L" adjusting screw it is all right but the ""H" is a problem ...to get some power I have
to screw it all in which it is not right as it suppose to be ONE FULL TURN OUT ...also it makes a lot of smoke ...
any suggestions ? Thank you
Would you be able to list the symptoms of a bad impulse line. I’m trying to get a stihl 192tc running correctly. It fails to idle but I can cut if I keep the rpm up but this is indeed dangerous. I’ve replaced the carb and tank vent and other parts. Thanks
Yikes how to remember a gizillion steps and loads of small connectors.
Great😮😮😮 do you know where you find a good adaptable piston and cylinder for a reasonable price ?
Awesome detail. I have 193t. Don’t know much about chainsaw just that it doesn’t want to even crank anymore. Bought it used it started when I bought it now it’s just sitting I tried adjusting the idle screw I did tuneup and I came to a conclusion I think I got a lemon 🍋 chainsaw. Do you know if it’s even worth it to me to buy a rebuilt engine maybe a Chinese engine if they even make them. I did buy a aftermarket carburetor and it did start now it doesn’t? What would you recommend me for this chainsaw I just can’t get rid off I like it to much that I would like it to get it up and running if I can. I paid $250 stihl ms193t used bang up .
Sorry I missed your question months ago. I'm just seeing it now. Not being able to see it first hand, My first step would be to remove the clutch cover and the muffler and see if the cylinder is scored. If it is NOT scored/damaged, then there is little to no reason to buy a rebuilt engine for it, & we can move onto other areas to look. SIDE NOTE: I've never had good luck with aftermarket carburetors on saws. I've been through too many headaches with them. I rebuild the factory carbs, or buy oem factory replacement if needed. There are a lot of other places we can look, but as a second place to look, I would make sure the impulse line is still hooked onto the nipple under the rear handle area (you don't have to have the saw apart to see it) and is in good shape. Shown at the 6:15 mark in this video. The other simple check is spark. If cyl. Is good, impulse line is hooked up, and you have spark, then we can move onto possible fueling issues.
Thanks to your helpful video, I did a disassembly of my 192 to replace all the fuel lines, impulse line and rebuild carb. I found where the nipple on the handle for the impulse line was broke and thought that was my issue. After replacing the handle and putting the saw all back together it still doesn’t run well. Some questions I have. The impulse line that I got from Stihl was noticeably smaller diameter but I was able to get it on the nipples. I’m concerned that it is a restriction and also I’m surprised there aren’t gaskets on both sides of the carburetor. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you for the video.
Thought I should add. I did replace the intake boot also.
Sorry I didn't see your comment sooner. Not sure if this is still relevant or not. Is the inner diameter of the impulse line smaller, or just the outside? You can just replace the impulse line with fuel line of larger inner diameter if it's a point of concern, but outside of being pinched, it should be providing enough pulse for the carb to pump fuel. Did you make sure the fuel line are hooked up correctly on the primer bulb? There are no gaskets on the carburetor. The air filter side of the carb, where the plastic filter holder mates up to the carb, doesn't have to be an air tight seal. Where the carb mates to the saw, the rubber intake boot should protrude through the plastic saw housing. The rubber flange of the intake boot is what the carb seals against. No gaskets needed. I would make sure that the rubber intake boot flange is flat against the saw housing and is in good Shape. The 192t are also notorious for having bad accelerator pumps in the carburetors.
www.chainsawcollectors.se/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?t=16521
@@samishsawworks5870 thank you. It ended up being I had cut the impulse line to long and it was kinked.
@@davidmartin6589 hey! Happy it was an easy fix. Good work!
Hi, does the 192t cylinder fit a 193t?
Good video btw!
The 192tc is said to had a cylinder groove for EPA that lowered its compression and perfomance. What are your thoughts of that feature? Thanks
The theory (I believe) is that it bleeds off compression for starting, but once running at 10k+ rpm, the compression loss is negated. I can not imagine what Stihl's reasoning behind it was. It's a 30cc saw for crying out loud. Anyway, they have a considerable less amount of compression. Stock for stock I'm not sure if there is a huge noticeable difference. (I've never ran them stock) Once you give them a muffler mod and timing advance there is definitely a difference between the two. If I had to rebuild, I'd definitely go with the older style cylinder. If I had one currently with the groove, I'd just run it.
Nice video, Would you know is the plastic brake handle is the same part # on the MS192T , MS193T and MS194T.? part # 1137 792 9100 ? my 194T broke off and can only seem to find that # for the 192T and 193T
I would like to know how to get the main fuel line out. I seam to have a hole or it is plugged I can not get fuel from the tank to the carb.
I've got someone else asking too. I'll post a video tomorrow afternoon
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Hello. Is the MS 193T starter suitable for MS 194T?
Спасибо! Отличное видео!
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