The best cycling rain ponchos and capes to keep you dry on your bike commute

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  • čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
  • After I found last year that a good poncho was the best way to keep me dry on those rainy bike commutes, I'm now going deep into the poncho universe to find the best model for a bicycle commute or your urban bike life. Here's what I investigate in this video:
    0:00 Introduction
    1:37 Vaude Cover II Poncho: amzn.to/3jLkift
    2:24 Cleverhood Classic Cape: cleverhood.com/collections/cl...
    3:57 Cleverhood Rover Rain Cape: cleverhood.com/products/rover...
    5:00 People's Poncho: www.thepeoples.co/products/na...
    6:25 In which I succumb to pressure and choose a winner, even though all of these ponchos have their merits.
    Here's my original video about finding the best way or staying dry in the rain: • What to wear in the ra...
    FTR: I paid for the Vaude poncho myself (although the link above is an Amazon affiliate link, which means if you use that link to buy one, I'll get some money). Thanks to Cleverhood and The People's Poncho for supplying test ponchos (the links above are not affiliate links).
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  • @christill
    @christill Před 2 lety +126

    The windows in the hood are a great idea. They should do that in every cycling jacket. I’ve definitely been in those situations where you can’t look to the side and it’s super dangerous.

    • @officer_baitlyn
      @officer_baitlyn Před 2 lety +8

      yeah i constantly have to argue with people that claim earbuds on bikes are dangerous
      just to then see them sporting full on battlegear on their bikes without any thought
      i feel looking around while driving is usually worth a lot more than hearing unimpaired
      otherwise i dont see how cars are safe at all / how having something over ur head + wind noise is at all different to headphones

    • @whathappenedto9374
      @whathappenedto9374 Před 2 lety +12

      Pro Tip: If you strap your helmet over the ponchos hood and fix it in position you can keep your face and vision field free and dont need windows.

    • @christill
      @christill Před rokem +4

      @@doublewhopper67 We should really ban listening to music in cars then.

    • @another3997
      @another3997 Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@officer_baitlynIMO, anyone who wears earbuds and listens to music whilst cycling is an idiot. Hearing is vital to staying safe. You often hear things such as other vehicles, sirens, even people's voices, BEFORE you see them. You can still hear sirens and loud noises such as motorbikes when in a car... if you don't play excessively loud music. But cars offer much more protection than a cycle, cars don't wobble when you turn your head. And unlike a car, which has several mirrors, a lot of bikes do not. Unfortunately a lot of drivers don't use their mirrors properly, and they play loud music too, so they too are idiots.

    • @another3997
      @another3997 Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@christillBanning LOUD music when driving would be a good thing. In a car you can still hear a lot of things with no music, or music played at low volumes. But some people play it so loud, you can hear them coming long before you can see their car, whilst the driver inside is oblivious to everything going on around them. Ever seen those drivers who don't notice the emergency vehicles approaching, despite the sirens and flashing lights?

  • @mardomardomardomardo
    @mardomardomardomardo Před 2 lety +137

    G'day Tom, Thanks for the great video. I got my first poncho last winter and have some personal observations for you to share. I have the Cleverhood "Rover" that you reviewed. I noticed that it does actually have a belt loop welded into the rear of the poncho. (it does not come with a belt) but you can add your own, so this helps stop the flapping at the back and helps to keep your back/bum dry. I also no longer put the thumb loops over my thumbs, instead I loop them over the handlebar grips, this allows me to indicate, ring my bell or use a tissue while riding, and the cape stays in place. Another consideration for winter is headlight and bell placement. As the cape covers your handlebars (and keeps your hands dry!) it also covers a handlebar mounted light, and muffles the sound of your bell. Just a couple of considerations and worth a mention for prospective cape users.
    Thanks again so much for your video's I appreciate your hard work!

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  Před 2 lety +27

      This is great! Thanks for sharing. I think others will find this very useful.

    • @whazzat8015
      @whazzat8015 Před 2 lety +11

      Nobody hears the bell , anyway. either headphones or phone distracting.
      If it rains that much put the light lower.
      I just yell at ém.

    • @fillyal85
      @fillyal85 Před 2 lety +1

      I didn't think about light placement-where would be a good place to attach a front light?

    • @whazzat8015
      @whazzat8015 Před 2 lety +8

      @@fillyal85 Prolly above the fender using the brake mount, below the bag if used.
      Serious night riders also use a head mount for near hazards, and this is where helmet fit on rain gear is an issue.

    • @swilhelm3180
      @swilhelm3180 Před 2 lety +5

      @@fillyal85 Your helmet? Then it moves with you. And it darts around more and that is more noticeable.

  • @olhristov
    @olhristov Před 2 lety +93

    I expected way more reflective elements, especially on the backs.

    • @another3997
      @another3997 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Reflective strips are great, but it's not such a big deal when you have proper lights and reflectors on your bike. Besides, you can easily add extra reflective strips if you wanted

  • @maaiker2977
    @maaiker2977 Před 2 lety +46

    As a dutch woman I cycle in rainy and windy weather A LOT. A rainsuit (including the pants) is the way to go. I tried a poncho but that thing is dangerous. It blew up and over my head while I was cycling next to cars at night....DANGEROUS. Never doing that again. The rainsuit will keep your legs dry as well.

    • @Cyber128
      @Cyber128 Před rokem +3

      Hi I'm struggling to find an example of these, do you have any rainsuit recommendations?

    • @benmooredorencio6504
      @benmooredorencio6504 Před rokem

      True

    • @JEEROFUKU
      @JEEROFUKU Před rokem +15

      That’s why you have ( your poncho obviously haven’t) the waist and finger straps.

    • @another3997
      @another3997 Před 6 měsíci +2

      You were obviously doing something wrong, they're designed not to do that. Unless you didn't have a cycling poncho, but even an ordinary poncho can be held in place without difficulty.

    • @danielbrimm9330
      @danielbrimm9330 Před 4 měsíci +2

      You probably weren’t using the thumb straps

  • @Shifter_Cycling
    @Shifter_Cycling  Před 2 lety +38

    Wearing a rain poncho in soggy weather is a game-changer for a bike commute or urban bike ride. These are all great rain ponchos for different reasons.

    • @briansroute
      @briansroute Před 2 lety +2

      I love your videos, but what about the clearance if you use a helmet, I usually don't use it if I consider my tracks safe... But under rain I would always use it. Could you consider for future videos? Thank you, we are here following you awesome and honest work, congratulations!

    • @TheSJCieply
      @TheSJCieply Před 2 lety +3

      @@briansroute I have a People's Poncho and it works just fine under a helmet (though not over one)

    • @donttouchthisatall
      @donttouchthisatall Před 2 lety +2

      But you are not AERO!

    • @koborkutya7338
      @koborkutya7338 Před 2 lety +1

      So true - one common reason for starting to drive is that its raining. Seeing me arriving every day in office clothing completely dry is a big argument.

    • @photoo848
      @photoo848 Před 2 lety +3

      Why are none of these rain ponchos made from reflective material? Being draped in grey tones when it's raining feels not very safe

  • @BlairdBlaird
    @BlairdBlaird Před 2 lety +21

    One thing that's missing here (and from most ponchos) is that they don't quite help glass wearers: the brims are usually quite small so not at all sufficient to prevent drops and projections from hitting the glasses... and staying there and progressively blinding the rider unless they have hydrophobic coating (which in my experience is quite rare for corrective glasses, and might conflict with other treatments e.g. anti-glare or anti-blue).

  • @nordlyselsker
    @nordlyselsker Před 2 lety +20

    One thing you didn't mention is that the Vaude's pocket also serves as a carrying bag for the poncho, and unless yours is different from most Vaudes, once you have turned it inside out and have stuffed your poncho in it, it also has a waist strap, so it's easy to carry around. And it doesn't take much room when stuffed into the pocket. I recently bought a Vaude Valero (which has sleeves - I am not sure yet whether that's a good thing), and it lives permanently in my pannier. By the way, "Vaude" is pronounced approximately "Fow Day". The name is derived from the founder's surname, von Dewitz, or V.D. for short - and those letters are called Vau and De in German.

  • @HiltownJoe
    @HiltownJoe Před 2 lety +18

    I was wearing a poncho with viewing windows in the hood for a long time, and compared to an opaque hood they are a game changer. The only aspects that rate higher for me are waterproofness and visibility to others.

  • @dutchman7623
    @dutchman7623 Před 2 lety +7

    Usually they work like sails, wind in the back; no peddles needed, wind in front; stay at home.
    For me rain trousers work best, together with a normal rain coat or leather jacket.

  • @simongee8928
    @simongee8928 Před 2 lety +17

    Interesting how many things are being 'reinvented'. I was using a cycle specific rain cape back in the mid 60s. It was oilskin with thumb loops and a waist strap. Nothing new then eh - ? 😁

    • @another3997
      @another3997 Před 6 měsíci +1

      The Victorians would say the same thing to you. 😉 Capes have been used on bikes since the first "bikes" came along. Capes were popular long before then, so had already been adapted for horse riding, walking, sailing etc. I imagine stone age man invented the cape... kindly donated by some large, furry animal that also tasted quite nice. 😄

  • @Joy-xm5rg
    @Joy-xm5rg Před 2 lety +11

    Love to see u collab with Not Just Bikes and Propel. Truly love your content. You deserve more subscribers. Love from an Indian subscriber.

  • @jirivorobel942
    @jirivorobel942 Před 2 lety +12

    I prefer a hoodless poncho combined with a helmet cover. We have plenty of tram tracks, manhole covers, cobbled streets, glossy paint and other slippery things to warrant always wearing a helmet when it rains, and freeing the head covering from the collar means more comfortable and safer riding.

  • @laerciofigueiredo3066
    @laerciofigueiredo3066 Před 2 lety +10

    I have a Vaude poncho. I like it a lot. It protects very well in the rain. It enable me wear the helmet under it. The absence of waistband does not affect me, since here is a tropical country, and the back free movement of the poncho helps to decrease the inner temperature. One positive thing about ponchos is that they allow a lot of different protection levels and ventilation possibilities depending on how you wear it. You can cover your entire body, you can leave your arms uncovered, you can put the entire thing at your back if it stops raining for while, and so on.

  • @Colleenann61
    @Colleenann61 Před 2 lety +9

    I’ve switched to a poncho for bike touring. The only thing I wish it had, is a clear window on the front that would allow me to see my Garmin when I’m following a route. It’s very annoying to have to stop and pull back the cape to see which way I’m supposed to go. Otherwise, the poncho is awesome.

  • @jfouellette5174
    @jfouellette5174 Před rokem +3

    Hi. I purchased the Vaude poncho. Its bag is actually the front pocket. Turn the pocket inside out and fold the fabric to fill it. The zipper is two sided and it has a strap to carry the pouch.

  • @lafamillecarrington
    @lafamillecarrington Před 2 lety +2

    I can imagine being blown backwards when the wind is blowing! And your legs and feet are still exposed. I'm going to stick to shorts, a light rain-resistant jacket - and a towel.

  • @FirstnameLastname-bp5cm
    @FirstnameLastname-bp5cm Před 2 lety +4

    Reminds me of riding on a tour in Vietnam. Because every time it rained the streets in town would completely empty for about 90 seconds while every scooter parked to retrieve a poncho from under the seat. We’d just get soaked and have a mini speed trial.

  • @LoosLas
    @LoosLas Před 2 lety +4

    I don't know if so someone commented on the pronounciation of Vaude. It's a German brand and, I think, a spoken abbreviation: VD. So it's pronounced as 'fow' like in fowl and 'deh' like Denmark, but longer.

  • @benjaminbrand3714
    @benjaminbrand3714 Před 2 lety +7

    Thanks for the consistently awesome content man! I just bought my first cruiser bike and I can’t wait to put it to use!

  • @sagehiker
    @sagehiker Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for the education! And helping me with product selection. I already have zip-up rain pants for more extreme days, with my climate and needs, I realize I am a Vaude poncho rider.

  • @MsFrenchkiwi
    @MsFrenchkiwi Před 2 lety +7

    I have a poncho from Happy Rainy Days which I've had for about 5 years and is great! They have some lovely fabric options which probably appeal more to ladies :)

  • @extarv
    @extarv Před 2 lety +3

    Very cool that you made a follow up video on that topic as rain was THE topic, I feared the most while biking until I got myself a pair of cleverhood rovers last year and I love them! I wish there'd be more detailed videos about biking-ponchos, because for me they were a game changer for everyday riding.

  • @SeanThompson-ct3vx
    @SeanThompson-ct3vx Před rokem +7

    Love the channel. I'm in Wales (where it rains - a lot) and use a cape made by Carradice. They produce very solid old school waxed cottoned and canvas saddle bags and panniers - and also an old school waxed cotton (think Barbour jacket material) bike cape. Very solidly made and will last a lifetime, very effective, but unfortunately very expensive.

  • @JamesMorganVTT
    @JamesMorganVTT Před 2 lety +4

    Solid video! It was your video last year that led me to my Classic Cape from Cleverhood. Which has been amazing and allowed me to continue to commute regardless of the weather outside!! The only variable I keep playing with is shoes. Sometimes Chacos and other times tennis shoes depending on the severity of the rain. Cheers!

  • @rbranch234
    @rbranch234 Před 2 lety +5

    I’ve been using the People’s Poncho for a while and definitely agree about ponchos in general.

  • @manwithhair88
    @manwithhair88 Před 2 lety +4

    Another good option for rain cover that we use in Europe is a rain windshield, a good example of it is sold by a company called Veltop.

  • @JB-fe5tt
    @JB-fe5tt Před 2 lety +5

    Thank you for the video. I found your content to be always useful. Great job. 👍

  • @Bananadoom
    @Bananadoom Před 2 lety +2

    Awesome! I was kinda hoping you would do a video on exactly this!

  • @dandeangeli9860
    @dandeangeli9860 Před 6 měsíci

    This video was the first I watched by Tom.
    I purchased the clever hood, rain poncho, and it has made a huge difference in getting out there in wet conditions.
    Thank you for your guidance.

  • @SilvioFYT
    @SilvioFYT Před rokem +1

    This film was SO helpful! Thanks Tom ♥

  • @TyStyckify
    @TyStyckify Před 2 lety +5

    I have a Vaude, which is OKish. Bought a Basil Hoga poncho for a little more money than the Vaude and it wins in all categories for me. Super compact, light with stuff sack built into poncho and most importantly, it works. Leave it to the pragmatic Dutch to meet your biking needs without having to mortgage the ranch.

  • @markperry4474
    @markperry4474 Před 2 lety +2

    Cycle capes/ponchos are great on hot rainy days, especially in humid places.

  • @WheelsonaBike
    @WheelsonaBike Před 2 lety +6

    I bought the Vaude poncho based on your video and have found it very useful and convenient for commuting purposes.

    • @Pseudynom
      @Pseudynom Před 2 lety +2

      Nice side effect: Vaude is a company that focuses on social and ecological sustainability.

  • @christopherhindman7573
    @christopherhindman7573 Před rokem +2

    I’ve been using the People’s Poncho for a few years now. It’s kept me nice and dry in sideways blowing down downpour many many times. It’s always in my messenger bag or pannier and works very well. Comfortable and airy enough to keep you from sweating. Straps to keep the cape from flapping all over the place. Upper torso, head and legs dry each time - just get good full fenders for extra protection (and water proof riding shoes).

  • @jasonjorgensen9888
    @jasonjorgensen9888 Před 2 lety +5

    Thanks for the poncho review, very useful! Id love a review of bike gloves, summer and winter, for knuckle and palm fall impact protection. Had a fall and hand road rash sucks.

  • @AaronPinero
    @AaronPinero Před rokem +1

    I use the classic Cleverhood poncho and it does provide excellent coverage and waterproofing, but it’s warm. You will get a bit sweaty if your ride requires some effort or if it’s above 22deg C. I do love how it keeps me and my bike mostly dry (I ride a Brompton). I originally bought this on recommendation from another rider. Mine came with a bag that I can wear as a mini backpack - very useful if I’m worried it might rain.

  • @bigwheelsturning
    @bigwheelsturning Před rokem +2

    I just dug out my old backpacking poncho that I got back in 68. Last time I used it was in the Grand Canyon during a "deluge" in 89. After seeing your first video on the subject, I thought I would dig it out and try it on my bike. It's way bigger than any of the one's you show here, and it's bright orange, so nobody can say they can't see me. Can use it as a sail when the winds at my back.

  • @uratasan
    @uratasan Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you for all the research you’ve done

  • @nemohalperin
    @nemohalperin Před rokem

    Really found this guide useful. Thank you.

  • @talkingmotanka
    @talkingmotanka Před 2 lety +7

    The thing is, if you live in a rainy climate like I do near Vancouver, you don't just "pick one". There's nothing wrong with having options for different types of weather. Sometimes in the summer, the rain can make you feel hot and sweaty under something meant for cold weather. In the winter, those flimsy ones won't give any added warmth. Also consider if most of your riding is day or night. If you get caught in nighttime traffic, will the clear sides on the Vaude help you, or the great reflectors sewn in the piping of the Cleverhood? So for me, it's not a choice of ONE, it's more like having a few to use depending on the time of year, weather, and situation. I think it's fantastic that you had those brands send those to you for us to view and make some decisions! Great review by you, and props to them for sending you the gear!

    • @another3997
      @another3997 Před 6 měsíci +2

      For some people, cost is an issue. A lot of these capes or ponchos are quite expensive, and having several may not be a justifiable use of the money. You can wear warm clothing under a cape, as they aren't meant to keep you warm per se, just keep you dry. And vice versa in summer, wear cooler clothing under it. The cape is just a waterproof, windproof layer, and ONE well designed cape can easily cope with year round use.

  • @Korina42
    @Korina42 Před 2 lety +2

    Hey, it's good to see you back from vacation(?). I'm such a weather weenie; when it really rains, I whip out my bus pass. :-)

  • @evgeniy19
    @evgeniy19 Před rokem +3

    Thank you for the review. I would also recommend checking out ponchos from Decathlon. They are technologically advanced with a lot of features, compactly fold into their own pockets, come in a wide range of models and color options. Personally, I have a 900 Btwin model which I really love.

  • @broderfoder9348
    @broderfoder9348 Před 2 lety +5

    If you are riding to a fight with wind mills, the recommendation is to use a sancho poncho.

    • @kottelkannim4919
      @kottelkannim4919 Před 2 lety +1

      Wearing a Sansho poncho, fighting head winds, you stand no chance against windmills (which are designed for head winds). 🙂

  • @jessegee179
    @jessegee179 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the helpful review, great to see a UK product in there, I’ll check them out 👍

  • @lizvickers7156
    @lizvickers7156 Před rokem +1

    A good British poncho. Yeah!!!! Greetings from the UK.

  • @AderNyland
    @AderNyland Před 9 měsíci

    Great video! I’m out here in Victoria and will need something this fall! Huge help.

  • @meowserita
    @meowserita Před 2 lety +3

    you making the sherlock comparison with the cleverhood classic convinced me it really does have a classic inverness coat feel and honestly a big part of what i want in clothes is aesthetics. it is a bit anachronistic to go with the victorian vibes i love but anachronisms are amazing when intentional.

  • @davidjohnston1374
    @davidjohnston1374 Před rokem +1

    I bought a Poncho about 5 years ago and it's a French made one and whilst I don't often ride in the rain, I find it's great if you get caught. It's fairly long with good thick durable fabric, supremely waterproof, it's fairly long too which is good on a rainy day and only your lower legs and shoes might get a bit wet. In colder seasons, good I use long light vinyl motorcycle pants and wear old shoes that I don't care if I get wet and keep a fresh pair in a plastic bag in my panniers. The secret to Ponchos are that you get protected on the upper body but allows air underneath to prevent seating yet, the rain doesn't really follow the air flow so you keep dry underneath. The front part of the Poncho allows you to place it over the handlebars so that rain doesn't run down the top and drop over the front of your pants and helps the air circulate underneath, they really work.

  • @girliedog
    @girliedog Před 2 lety +1

    I live in Florida, nothing beats an oversized lightweight rain jacket.

  • @bern2632
    @bern2632 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you!

  • @anindanahiyan8818
    @anindanahiyan8818 Před 2 lety +2

    wore white cotton shorts out because it was dry, it started raining, almost got reported for indecent exposure on the way back

  • @cheddaz86
    @cheddaz86 Před 2 lety

    The hero we didn't know we needed

  • @FlorencioHugando
    @FlorencioHugando Před 2 lety +1

    Great video. Very useful

  • @Brianrockrailfan
    @Brianrockrailfan Před rokem +2

    Awesome video 👍

  • @carldawson5069
    @carldawson5069 Před 2 lety +2

    Well i ordered a cleverhoood rover last weekend. It rained Tuesday and it Fedex delivered on Wednesday. Of course i will need to learn how to fold it into the bag! 😳

  • @foitzer4839
    @foitzer4839 Před 2 lety +13

    Riding on painted lines in the rain gives me inner anxiety.

    • @C0deH0wler
      @C0deH0wler Před 2 lety +2

      Not me. Must be because we have anti-slip paint here in New Zealand. Same with the green paint you see occasionally in cycle lanes. Not sure about this paint tho. Personally, I'm more concerned by shared-paths that use pebble concrete. So many bad experiences, lol.

  • @AllenMorris3
    @AllenMorris3 Před rokem +2

    I would go with a helmet cover over a hood. You will be able to see better and you will get better ventilation. You need to make sure your poncho will pour water down your back if you don't wear the hood. Fancy hoods can be an issue.

  • @paulkoestner1
    @paulkoestner1 Před 2 lety +2

    The night visability would have been intresting too. Thanks for your vid!

  • @paulmentzer7658
    @paulmentzer7658 Před rokem

    I use an old US Army poucho. It is NOT reflective (A huge downside) but it has snaps to make a tighter fit AND you can get a "liner" for it that makes it warmer in colder weather (the liner has no hole for your head but that can be corrected but cutting your own hood or sewing in a hole kit you can buy for the liner).

  • @dominicvasturia9326
    @dominicvasturia9326 Před 2 lety +7

    Man four panchos! uou should have a shifter giveaway haha 😁

  • @robbi27
    @robbi27 Před 2 lety +1

    Good topic

  • @lukewarm4553
    @lukewarm4553 Před 2 lety +2

    The most important thing for me is are fenders. I rode on a bike once in the rain and got up with a wet butt.

  • @dependrarana4564
    @dependrarana4564 Před rokem

    so nice

  • @granthw4993
    @granthw4993 Před 2 lety +7

    For unicycling I find a mix of rain poncho and a rear fender has been great for me. Besides that if the weather is above 20 I just ride in the rain because it's cooling but below that a mix of splash pants/fender/ jacket has been doing well when I was cycling in the before times.

  • @peterlarsen5194
    @peterlarsen5194 Před 2 lety +23

    Interesting! I didn't know there was such a thing as a rain poncho. I have questions: 1. How do these things interact with a helmet? 2. It looks like the poncho would mask a handlebar-mounted headlight. What do you do about that? 3. Are they available in hi-viz colors? The retroreflective material is nice for when it's legitimately dark out, but wouldn't a hi-viz color be better for low-light daytime use?

    • @rosecitytid1631
      @rosecitytid1631 Před 2 lety +4

      I just ordered a Rover poncho from cleverhood, and they have a nice hot pink one and a kind of neon orange, which I'm pretty sure only females can tell the difference between the colors, tbh. They look the same to me but are different color options, so I assume they must be different. Handlebar mounted headlights may work just above the wheel or on the fork. Since I just ordered it and have not received it, I can let you know about the helmet once I get it. Assuming you didn't already get one.

    • @peterlarsen5194
      @peterlarsen5194 Před 2 lety

      @@rosecitytid1631 Thanks for the input. I haven't bought a cape ( not sure if I will), but I look forward to hearing about the helmet fit.

    • @daffodil2067
      @daffodil2067 Před rokem

      @@rosecitytid1631 so how's it fit?

    • @rosecitytid1631
      @rosecitytid1631 Před rokem +2

      @@daffodil2067 it works, it is hard to do hand signals and does not fit over helmet but I do stay dry

    • @kb_100
      @kb_100 Před rokem +1

      There's a European brand called GoFluo that does high viz and reflective ponchos. A bit pricey though and I'm not sure if they deliver outside EU.

  • @toodls
    @toodls Před 2 lety +10

    @shifter I’m in Ottawa Ontario. So the things that I find most difficult about returning to the bicycle. As nice as Ottawa has tried to make it a bike friendly city and it has hundreds of kilometers of trails. Transitioning from a car to more than just a recreational bicyclists I find finding your way around is very hard because you’re used to the north south east west roads. We’re bike roads will wind in and twist and put you backwards in your head next thing you know you’re going completely the wrong way. Does that make sense. The other thing is bike etiquette. My first ride out I was yelled at by I want to call my roadie biker guys are still competing for the Tour de France. I don’t know if I was doing something wrong but I got in his way and he didn’t like it anyway so I just try to stay in my own lane or wherever I have to be. I am enjoying your videos and information and at one point the first video I thought you were in Ottawa looks very similar anyway keep up the good work

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  Před 2 lety +16

      Thanks for sharing your experience. Here in Calgary, I've found wayfinding a big problem if I rely on official city sources (signs on the side of the road are no help at all). My only advice is to keep experimenting! Over time, I've found much better routes by trying alternatives. And map apps such as Google I've found quite helpful because they occasionally offer routes I wouldn't have thought of, and sometimes (not always) they are even helpful.
      Oh, roadies. I've found hardcore road cyclists to be more intransigent toward non-athletic urban cycling than almost everyone, including bike-hating motorists. I think the real solution is time -- everyday urban cycling is moving into the mainstream, which will make it more acceptable to everyone

    • @ghjgjihjgjyrdrgydsgr137
      @ghjgjihjgjyrdrgydsgr137 Před 2 lety +4

      Sorry to hear this, no-one should have yelled at you, least of all another cyclist. I got badly cut up by a guy with bicycles on the roof of his car, you'd think he would get it? You've got your people who are incredibly anti-social, and then you've got your people who are trying to enforce an imaginary order on the rest of us, for both of them I think it boils down to a 'might makes right' or 'divine right of me' view of the world where they won't make allowances for others. You didn't ask me for a tip so this is unsolicited, but I also returned to cycling less than a year ago, and I gradually learned to how to manipulate these people into granting me more allowances when I have to use the road. For me the problem is more drivers than other cyclists, or actually about 2% of drivers. My suggestion is to make yourself more visually intimidating by e.g. wearing an obvious camera, even a fake or non-functional one, and wearing a neck gaiter over your mouth and nose. Not that it seems and it's not for everyone, but nearly all of these people are being ruled by their emotions and I find silly stuff like that can help significantly, even though I also wear some hi-vis which would undermine it. Would not be surprised to hear that the man you encountered yells at other car drivers when he's behind the wheel.

    • @koborkutya7338
      @koborkutya7338 Před 2 lety +3

      Don't give up - I picked up an e-bike partially due to headwinds. Roadie bikers can do a favour to themselves, never mind them. Just go your way, find your track and ride your bike. Thumbs up Todd.

    • @tconnolly9820
      @tconnolly9820 Před rokem +2

      There is a substantial element of the "roadie" fraternity who cycle only for performance and literally seem to despise everyone else who doesn't share their priorities.
      Slightly different but I know a really nice guy who has spent ten's of thousands on really expensive bikes. Does the 100km+ weekend group ride plus his own solo rides in between. Spends a couple of hours forrest riding at night.
      But he has never once rode a bike the 8km to work or as much as ever picked up a litre of milk on a bike. He's put up far more mileage on two wheels than he's ever driven in his car but he's never used a bike to actually save driving anywhere by car. Bike's are only for sports, fitness and recreation and not for anything utilitarian.
      His whole life revolves around bikes but in a completely different way than it does for me with one workhorse bike, a trailer and a variety of assorted bags, racks and panniers.

  • @r.d.e.2803
    @r.d.e.2803 Před 2 lety

    Great vid.

  • @seductive_Octopus
    @seductive_Octopus Před 2 lety +3

    I got the People’s Poncho and it’s … well … I needed Time to get used to. U get some 👀 weird looks if u using a Brompton and Poncho together.
    Both super uncommon in my area and People look but it’s super effective and comfortable. For my taste it could be a bit longer and maybe I go for the Cleverhood after ur Video.
    🤔 but the Price of it .. it’s quite expensive but it sounds worth it.

  • @mtbboy1993
    @mtbboy1993 Před 2 lety +1

    I never understood the point of ponchos and capes. but as a mountain biker, for MTB it would be stupid. but just for riding normally, on paths and roads, I would get completely soaked.
    I do this:
    waterproof jacket, now I have a mountainbiking specific jacket from Endura.
    I use liner gloves, nitrile gloves for wind and waterproofing size M liner, if it's not too cold I wear medium glove and thin liner, if very cold I wear size large glove with thick liner. the nitrile glove can easily be taken off if you don't need water and wind proofing and want more breathable glove.
    To keep feet dry I recommend to use gaiters or small garbage bags wrapped around the ankle, heel.
    Waterproof riding shoes
    Waterproof trousers
    I use a Windstopper buff, it keeps rain out, I never get it soaked, so did not get anything waterproof, but I also can use the hood on the jacket.
    So I can step in puddles, get blasted with water and stay dry.

  • @EthemPekin
    @EthemPekin Před rokem

    Thank you. Any tips on how to use the Vaude effectively in windy rain condition? Do we use the hand loops as fixed to the handle?

  • @miyclops
    @miyclops Před 2 lety +7

    Thanks! Perfect timing too. Rainy season here in the Philippines.
    Tbh I just wear dry fit clothes and just let it rain on me. After it stops the hot air while biking just dries me up lmao.

    • @happyhermit8802
      @happyhermit8802 Před 2 lety

      It gets to be 40C where I work some days, getting soaked on the way home feels great and it's a pre-wash for my clothes. :)

    • @bathedinshadow
      @bathedinshadow Před 2 lety +3

      Try that in Vancouver BC in January!

  • @mfortier1
    @mfortier1 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi ! I'm french so i tried in english .
    I just find your chanel and look the video on winter bikes
    I have Marin presidio 3 carbon drive belt . For few winters i was very happy but last winter i have problem with the belt because the salt in winter ..do you have tips ?
    My belt is the regular one but theres one by gates a red or blue belt for winter do you think for salt its good ?
    Thanks and you have a new fan

  • @grandadslifehacks8992
    @grandadslifehacks8992 Před 2 měsíci

    Tom, I know it is not a specific cycling poncho, but the Mac in a Sac packable poncho looks like it packs smaller. Also looks great is the FROGG TOGGS Ultra-lite2 Waterproof, Breathable Rain Poncho.

  • @kottelkannim4919
    @kottelkannim4919 Před 2 lety +3

    A 250$ (shipping to the Near East and 17% VAT excluded) rain poncho, its size does not matter, would cast a giant shadow on my 4y old 400$ (current MSRP 560$ ) bicycle. 🙂
    Non of these allow the rider to signal. If you search CZcams for a different idea, you may come across "Der perfekte Fahrrad-Poncho" (which is not available, sadly).
    Your video is helpful as usual. Thank you!

    • @juliatample
      @juliatample Před 2 měsíci

      Did you find one similar?

    • @kottelkannim4919
      @kottelkannim4919 Před 2 měsíci

      @@juliatampleI settled with Decathlon rain gear (trousers and jacket). I also bought rain cover for my helmet (aliexpress) and added a seat stay suspended long ass-saver (aliexpress, again), and a down-tube front fender (made by Zefal) intended for bicycle with exposed cables along the downtube.

  • @markswishereatsstuff2500

    I'm a big fan of black while hiking, but riding a bike, I am blaze orange or road worker yellow vest. I would wear that on top of these ponchos, maybe it would help with the aerodynamic drag.

  • @pedroferreira94
    @pedroferreira94 Před 2 lety +1

    Do the lateral windows on the hood of the Vaude poncho work well?

  • @rabomarc
    @rabomarc Před 2 lety +2

    Btwin 900 poncho from Decathlon. I guess not available in North America. Cheap and good quality.

  • @Welther47
    @Welther47 Před rokem +1

    This is one of your better titles. Not so click-baiting as many of your other ones, Ex. "why you should something". Tip: Don't make your titles a question with words like why/this/you/should/[number] mistakes.

  • @ChrisBFerguson
    @ChrisBFerguson Před 2 lety +1

    I just ordered the People's Poncho after watching this video.

    • @tconnolly9820
      @tconnolly9820 Před rokem

      Did you get it?
      Many other people have commented that they are not reliable. Or even scammers!

  • @gstrdms
    @gstrdms Před 2 lety +2

    4uCycling's REACH anorak poncho is one of the best under 50CAD. And it also collapses itself into it's front pocket for extra portability. Just DO NOT machine dry it as it will melt the inner hydrophobic layer.

  • @ondrejc55
    @ondrejc55 Před 2 lety +1

    I was wondering about front pocket on People's Poncho. Is it big enough to store poncho in it after You stop using it?

  • @blake-gl4wn
    @blake-gl4wn Před rokem

    I go with a good rain jacket, polyester shorts and crocs. It’s hilly and I don’t have mud guards.
    A poncho seems good for cruising round flat sensible Dutch bike infrastructure

  • @RodrigoeBeta
    @RodrigoeBeta Před měsícem

    Are you able to fit a helmet under the hood of the Cleverhood classic?

  • @RobadobaChannel
    @RobadobaChannel Před 2 lety +3

    can you make a video on how to fold these damn things? i can’t seem to get my rover back in the bag sometimes lol

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  Před 2 lety +13

      Haha. Years ago, on a camping trip, a hardcore outdoorswoman recommended I stop trying to fold and roll my tent neatly to get it back in the bag because folding it the same way over time can create seams that will weaken the fabric. She recommended just shoving it back in the bag. I'm not sure if this is scientifically true, but I use this as a justification for shoving anything back into a little bag rather than trying to carefully folding it.

  • @josehumbertolozada9622
    @josehumbertolozada9622 Před 2 lety +2

    Hi, should you wear the helmet under or over the hood?

  • @ErossaanBooming
    @ErossaanBooming Před rokem +1

    you just took away my biggest fear for starting commuting by bike: that is rain

  • @dudesayHEY
    @dudesayHEY Před rokem +1

    Basil Hoga bicycle rain is around 60 USD and it seems decent, I don't see much people reviewing them sadly

  • @RichardsGaySon
    @RichardsGaySon Před rokem +2

    Do you think waterproof pants are also necessary for commuting in heavy rain or is the poncho enough?

  • @underbikedoverconfident1142

    Something that surprises me is the size of these poncho's when packed up in a bag they are quite large and my pannier bags aren't that big. I'd prefer something that fits in a large water bottle but suspect that it's not feasible after watching this.

    • @dominicvasturia9326
      @dominicvasturia9326 Před 2 lety +3

      I feel like showers pass has to have something like that for you.

  • @gregor-samsa
    @gregor-samsa Před 2 lety +1

    Great. A math how often it really rains would be interesting...

  • @pwood5733
    @pwood5733 Před 2 lety +1

    How did wind affect balance in the poncho ?

  • @glennpettersson9002
    @glennpettersson9002 Před 2 lety +1

    I was going to mention backpacks but they get protected too👍

  • @syko84
    @syko84 Před 10 měsíci +1

    What do you use to protect your shoes from the rain while cycling?
    I have custom insoles that cannot get wet otherwise I’m paying a mini fortune to replace them.

  • @morganvaughn863
    @morganvaughn863 Před 2 lety +2

    Is there one you'd recommend most for us tall folk?

  • @jimbojet8728
    @jimbojet8728 Před 2 měsíci

    I used a poncho a couple of times, but not to wear whilst riding, I just don’t like them, but when you stop because it’s bucketing down. Chuck over a poncho and get under a tree/bushes and life becomes bearable again.

  • @LedZeppeli
    @LedZeppeli Před 9 měsíci

    I want the classic since it’s reflective

  • @worldworldworld1009
    @worldworldworld1009 Před 2 lety +2

    Funnily, I was looking at the people's poncho (I live in the UK) and I was tempted - if they had black in stock I likely would have bought on impulse. However, in the spirit of riding for the destination, I think I still prefer my attractive gore-tex jacket (Mountain Equipment Lhotse) and a pair of over trousers. It's down to preference is though, I know! Thanks @Shifter

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  Před 2 lety +2

      I found with my Gore-Tex jacket that my thighs would get soaked. The poncho does a nice job keeping my legs dry as well as my upper body.

    • @another3997
      @another3997 Před 2 lety +1

      Over-trousers and rain jackets have their merits. But for expediency, ventilation and versatility, capes are great. Gore-tex is pretty good, but when you zip up to keep the rain out, you still get clammy when cycling. The knees and seat areas of the trousers also wear out relatively quickly.

    • @worldworldworld1009
      @worldworldworld1009 Před 2 lety +2

      @@another3997 my main concern would be that with a poncho and no overtrousers my calves would still get wet (even with fenders this is likely to happen in heavy rain). So, if I'm going to wear overtrousers, I can just use a goretex jacket (mine has good ventilation).
      I'm not arguing against ponchos, on the contrary, I would like to buy one and make the switch but I'm just concerned it won't stand up to keeping me dry in the British heavy rain and wind (which I've found my combination of GTX jacket/trousers/shoes has done).

  • @JamesTsividis
    @JamesTsividis Před 2 lety +1

    How well do these protect your legs from rain?

  • @ian71x96
    @ian71x96 Před rokem

    How easy is it to make hand signals while wearing one of these ponchos?

  • @charthepirate
    @charthepirate Před 2 lety +1

    Ahh just bought the rover a few months ago. I probably would have gone with the peoples hood if I bought today. I’m a big feller at 6 foot 1 and the size they recomend feels a bit small.
    That said I found if you don’t have good fenders it’s kind of pointless. My top was fine but my legs were soaked through from spray.
    I like the look and material though, I’ll wear it even off the bike

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  Před 2 lety +1

      I agree with your point about fenders -- without them your legs are just going to get soaked.