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Do you guys think they went too far with the whole Black Zetsu stuff? Like do you think it's a bit much that he essentially planned every action taken by every character in history? Or do you really like what kaguya brings to the story?
Edit: I have no idea whats wrong with the video. I wish i caught it earlier. I think something went wrong while exporting. I'll keep a better eye on that for the future.
Yep. Kaguya are the worst villian in the entire show, especially comparing to Madara. That plot twist with Black Zetsu was just unnecessary.
I think the Kaguya stuff is great, the Black Zetsu part not so much
@@Mr_Hoppykwins IDK. Maybe all that Kaguya stuff starts to make sence in the future. Her and Hagoromo's backstory are kinda cool, but she is so boring as a villian in Shippuden.
I don't think so
Well, Naruto's last words to Black Zetsu was that he is stupid that he thought he wrote History and then throw him into Kaguya.
From the very Begining, the World of Naruto began with the Toads, even the First Cover of Naruto Volume 1 has Naruto riding on a Toad. So its not that suprising that the Lore surrounding the toads is so ancient.
Carson and Lindsey the reason for Asian Kung Fu Generation is because Kishimoto stated that he felt the band go with the franchise pretty well
You guys must watch the ashura and indra backstory, it makes the ending with kaguya make much more sense, storywise. Skipping it is not doing the ending justice, even if you dislike the twist.
It sux. Its terrible
I find it funny that Black Zetsu is telling all of Kaguya's tale and Kaguya just keep crying the whole time. Like okay, keep rubbing salt in your mother's wounds.
maybe he was not talking loud, and saying that to them inside their mind cause their was connected:)
The way I see it, Black Zetsu takes too much credit for himself. Naruto ends up saying it himself at the end. Zetsu might have influenced one or two of Madara’s decisions but that’s about it. As far as I’m concerned everyone’s actions are their own and Zetsu just wants to claim that all of shinobi history belongs to him and Kaguya because it started with her. So it doesn’t really ruin anything for me.
If Kaguya sealing created the moon then how did Kaguya cast Infinite Tsukuyomi years ago??
@@RogueIntel when madara casts infinite Tsukuyomi we see moon potrayed as kaguyas 3rd eye so i think her 3rd eye was enough to cast that jutsu
@@RogueIntel Look carefully. Kaguya created portal to launch infinite tsukuyomi. She used moon from other dimension.
^ What this guy said
Yeah, if he was that good at manipulating and so on, it wouldnt take thousands of years for him to complete his plan
There’d be no “infinite tsukyomi” if there was no black zetsu. The tablet never would’ve been altered.
Remember, Kaguya used her Byakugan to enhance her Rinne-Sharingan so that it would reach every part of the globe. She didn't open a portal, she used her Byakugan to have the Tsukuyomi affect every one. As said by Hagoromo when explaining it Naruto about the previous Tsukuyomi
I mean, if we're talking about kaguya's "husband," you can't really say that he was a complete idiot without taking into account the era they were in. It was obviously an ancient era of warring states, with the Land of That being much more powerful and capable of laying waste to the Land of Ancestors. A strategy of appeasement was actually very common in situations like these in those time periods in real history. I don't think it comes off as a light decision for him to hunt Kaguya either, he seems more distressed by the burden of the choice he has to make now, since his decree must be upheld as absolute for the sake of his land's survival rather than the fact that she may have done something wrong or disobeyed him. If you read the history of either Japan or mainland China and it's surroundings, these scenarios were quite common and were very often rational decisions rather than emotional. Now, could he have been more proactive and tried to prevent this or indeed attempt to mobilize *something* before their enemies inevitably decide to attack after he can't stall anymore? Absolutely.
@@tensimkazem1812 wtf lol
C'est audacieux de croire que leur culture dépasse les frontières de Hollywood
Can’t believe your mod said that. These episodes are absolutely necessary to watch. They have canon material. They’re really good. And most importantly, they make the kaguya ending way better. They’re not at all skippable.
Also, the indra/ashura filler right after this should not have been skipped. Understanding the era that kaguya, hagoromo, and his kids came from is essential.
Same with itachi shinden. It further helps with understanding sasuke’s feelings at the end.
exactly ^
Exactly wtf
Nah, the indra/ashura stuff is mediocre at best and doesnt really matter
Nope, watched all and still didn't make her ending better🤷
black zetsu and kaguya is an alien
God damn, now that I am watching Boruto and simultaneously your reaction , I just realise how much foreshadowing they gave in Naruto about ''them''. They literally showed outline of their character in it 😯😯
They even foreshadowed the last movie with bruh with the byakugan going to the moon…I’m even more confident that boruto wasn’t just an ass pull to get the franchise going
@@jomama8598 *They* were foreshadowed in the anime but at that time the Boruto movie already came out so this wouldn't technically be foreshadowing. Plus in the manga *they* were never mentioned.
That was just a strategy to pull out Boruto
This isn’t really filler it’s backstory. Actually really important for future arcs
All that is not in the manga is filler bryh. Thats the concept. If its good or not (its not) if you like it or not. If its important in your opinion or not. It doesnt metter. Its filler its not on the manga ok
@@bernardmartins1093 while I mostly see what you're saying, I'd like to point out that I don't think something being important or not is a matter of opinion
@@xmant8842 putting in other words. The manga and itachi novels are canon, The rest is not. Just like that
Hope they read the comments on this one, everyone is making good points that could make you feel more at ease with what happened
Well zetsu is the smartest (N)🌝😂
Well zetsu failed many times in thousands of years
So it makes sense he tried that many times that's why he completed his mission of releasing kaguya .
If u watch the next few episodes in continuation u will understand that zetsu was the reason.
I think you guys are taking it the wrong way that black zetsu "planned" everything. He was an opportunist who took advantage of the struggles and relationships of the other characters. He himself tells that it took more than a millennium just to get the right set of uchiha and senju. But I guess if your already against a idea, then you cannot watch it objectively. "Hahahaha....sure...Hahaha...ok" that's not an argument for not liking something, its just show that you are just not willing to give it a chance from the beginning and you have already made up your mind.
Exactly
🙄
Black Zetsu had the whole eternity to plan. It's not like it was an asspull and planned the whole thing in a couple of days. It took him forever to make small changes to finally rebirth Kaguya.
Eons
No one is talking about that, no one has a problem with the amount of time black zetsu had to plan shit. It wasn’t that black zetsu pulled shit out of his ass, it was that the author did because this section of the story was so poorly written especially in comparison to everything before it. People have a problem with the fact that black zetsu was essentially behind everything that happened in naruto despite no hint whatsoever that this would be the case. What made it even worse was that they not only made some shit up last minute but it also completely threw out major pieces of information we thought we knew all for a less satisfying conclusion with many more plot holes.
I kinda like that they explored the sage of six paths stuff and kaguya rather then have the story end with just the occasional mentions we got of these godlike figures of legend
They should've saved it for boruto, would have more setup than just dropping this at the end just because it was mentioned very briefly
@@Limaonyx nope. The manga kishimoto wrote calls naruto. It has beggining and end. No saving there my friend
@@bernardmartins1093 Escreve em português que teu inglês ta um pouco confuso
@@Limaonyx i dont think so. My last comment was not proper english but it was understandable.
If you didnt get, kishimoto wrote a manga called naruto. Its a complete história without saving stuff for boruto. That means that if pierrot studios did not continued boruto it would be ok. Its a complete history. No saving for next there.
@@bernardmartins1093 Yeah, now it's understandable. I didn't mean to be rude, just wanted to tell you that what you wrote was confusing.
Só uma dica, maninho. No inglês a diferença entre história e estória é bem mais definido. "History" se refere á fatos reais e documentados, que digam respeito ao passado da humanidade, enquanto "story" se refere à narração de ficção e fatos imaginários. No caso, o correto seria você escrever "It's a complete story" e não history.
The foreshadowing in these episodes are great
The otsutsuki will be the main enemies of the boruto series
Black Zetsu planned everything, all according to Ramen Guy's plan.
anyway here's my solution to the Kaguya stuff that can also be a great set up for Boruto:
* -Kaguya is an Alien- Kaguya is a literal deity that ruled all the land on the map we've seen in the present with the different lands.
* -Kaguya was a dictator out of love- Kaguya was sapping life from the weaker lands outside her rule using the divine tree so that her own land would prosper
* -Chakra was shared with people after Kaguya was sealed- Chakra was shared before she was sealed, Chakra is a gift or a "Blessing" from a Deity specifically Kaguya, that blessing's signature is different elements which are the chakra natures (it doesn't matter whether Hagoromo shares it, being a blood relative of hers, or Kaguya herself as a ruling god type of thing to do)
* -no land outside the shinobi world is really acknowledged- now that Gods are on the table after Kaguya is revived, it's revealed that other lands have other gods ruling them (genshin style, I swear I came up with this before I got into genshin) those gods have different blessings much different and sometimes similar to Kaguya's blessing
* the final point: Jashin is real, but he's a different kind of deity who only takes a small cult rather than a whole land, Hidan recieved his blessing of immortality. this can explain the weird monk stuff back around Asuma's whole thing, this would make for a perfect set up for Boruto, expanding the world of Naruto, the Naruto story isn't fully closed off like it actually is and it gives freedom for Boruto to explore different power systems without being too bound to the one established in the Naruto story.
what do you think? would this be better or worse?
All of that sounds dope as hell
@@BOLDcast it opens so many doors and allows for different mythologies to be introduced besides eastern ones, I just wish this is what happened, boruto would sound dope if it did
ichiraku ramen is the true source of naruto's massive chakra reserves
@@env0x the reincarnation of the sage of the six ramen bowls
Kaguya should be one of the gods of chakra not the God of chakra cuz then the other otstuski wouldn't make sense but the plot is good fam considering kishimoto drew and wrote narutos manga alone releasing a chapter every month while staying serialised it was prolly a lot of pressure on kishimoto
And here is your final boss
Everybody : hell yes!!
Naruto : well. Yes but no
I think you guys are misunderstanding and giving too much hate. Also giving zetsu a bit too much credit. The “all mighty plan that went perfectly” was actually just a basic plan that took a long time to eventually kinda work. Zetsu rolled with the punches.
The ten tails getting split wasn’t ideal, zetsu realized that he would just have to gather them all and seal them all to revive ten tails. That couldn’t happened until he found suitable reincarnations who could awaken the rinnegan so that they could summon the statue so that they could revive ten tails. Zetsu watched and observed everything. Saw how Madara grew up, and knew how to manipulate him and how to adjust the stone tablet to get Madara to do what he wanted. Madara had no direct contact with zetsu until after he awakened the rinnegan. And from there it was a matter of finding the right time to reveal himself and it just happened to be with the zetsu’s and faking. Being alive for so long, he knew how to manipulate and pull the strings successfully.
Now that all being said, I think things were definitely retconned and this was 100% not the original plan but they made it work. They definitely could have done a better job weaving it in seamlessly, but it is what it is. It’s definitely not perfect by any means, but I think you guys are a bit too hard on it.
We do dislike it, but we arent misunderstanding anything. We just really dont like this change to the story. doesn't mean we HATE naruto now or anything. We just really don't like this one part.
@@BOLDcast Lol they didn’t say anything about you straight up hating the series. They just said they think you’re a bit hard on THIS part that you’re hating about it. Which is basically what you also just said but it is what it is. I don’t think anybody is assuming that you hate Naruto
Nah they actually fully understand what is going on with the story and acknowledge its flaws, this Kaguya and Black Zetsu scheme is just an instance of poor writing by Kishimoto and they are honest about it
@امير مادرا مسند ساسكي الصقر 😂
@@bernardszymanski6358 no they dont have right you cant be serieus. they only cry for madara who killed 1000 people. i hope kaguya comes back
Incase no one told you guys these episodes are based on literally two pages of manga that tells us about kaguya
Boruto told it better
@@Saprana Not a big fan of Boruto but i completely agree, they do show and tell while still somehow giving more info (in this specific case)
I mean black zestu didn’t plan perfectly. It was really just trial and error. A whole millennium passes of his failures lol. I do agree that he didn’t need to be the reason for everything, like having Kabuto find madara’s body didn’t need to be mentioned.
It kinda did though how the hell would Kabuto find Madara body without Obito and anyone knowing about it or how did he manage to find it when no one knows where Madara died in the first place
@@sparknazo Also even without the whole Kaguya stuff and assuming Black Zetsu was Madara's will, it still makes sense why he would let Kabuto find the body to ensure Madara's revival
this kaguya arc makes no sense in shippuden
but totally makes sense in boruto
i also hated this stuff until i watched boruto and now i still dont like it but i respect it
and not just that
the suprise is when ishiraku ramen appears in the last episode and he became the last villain
what a legend ishiraku ramen
They said that everyone from the first infinite tsukiyomi became white zetsu. The people who were shown after kaguya were sealed were from the ritual in which they intentionally feed it people.
This filler is important to understand boruto.
the only good thing about boruto, is the jiraya filler
Nah, not really
@@TheUncleTom are you just going to ignore naruto and sasuke vs momoshiki?
This filler is important because it introduces that there are other otsutsuki out there. And the indra and ashura filler is important because it explains why the reincarnations are rivals/ enemies
@@xmant8842 yes. because is something you see in the movie. a repost
Remember what she said it's like she's waiting for someone
the introduction of Kaguya can be relatively jarring but i do honestly believe the kaguya arc ends better than it started atleast
Sasuke: “I’m The Strongest Person In The World Right Now”
Black Zetsu: "It was I who pushed Naruto from behind so that he would accidentally kiss Sasuke that one time, knowing that it would eventually lead to a $1.50 rise in gas prices and the return of Mother"
😂😂😂😹
Black Zetsu makes so sense because he is almost a less effective version of KARMA😉 and fate in the revival of an Otutsuki.
You guys are mistaken on one part, and that’s the infinite tsukuyomi and the white zetsu. As you saw, kaguya gathered people in chunks to go and be taken by the divine tree, meaning those that were already transformed, were stored within the divine tree and underground, and then the next batch would take their place in ‘the ceromony’. Kabuto said 100,000 white zetsu, and all of them were transformed between her initial casting of the jutsu till Hagoromo and Hamuras adult hood, where they sealed kaguya. So it’s not a plot hole
But why did Kaguya's infinite tsukuyomi have to happen in many waves of people coming to sacrifice themselves? When Madara cast his infinite tsukuyomi it literally grabbed everyone on Earth at once. Why wouldn't Kaguya's take everyone at once too?
@@jsmithers.Madara binded everyone that was under the genjutsu, kaguya was just binding those which were in the vicinity. If she took everyone, there would be no one to continue having offsprings, so she wouldn’t be able to amass an army, whereas madara just wanted to rid the world of hatred and wars.
@@zararkhan3499 Ok thanks. Very shitty explanation.
@@jsmithers. becase its a fucking filler? That kaguya wave whatever you are talking about its not on the manga. For me those pierrot scripts writers can lik me ball dude
Kaguyas design is basically a older Hinata with white skin and horns if you really look at her face.
But whos hotter
You saw comment above me
White zetsu was made by madara, from the tree, which already had the souls... so he was really extracting them not creating them.
Until the "others" come - Watch Boruto
Kimimaro was the last survivor of the Kaguya clan and they mentioned it his story. (When he was approached by Orochimaru) So the name Kaguya was mentioned in the early episodes of Naruto. Maybe this whole Kaguya arc was planned.
Just the way that lindsay is overly critique of everything in this video especially just shows that she is in with it with a bitter mind.
29:14 momoshiki and kinshiki apprance the foreshadowing on whole another level
Every bad guy was once good... same with kaguya, same with madara, same with every villain 🥺
The world makes them bad
Now it turned out that the wise toad was the one behind everything XD
Kaguya's backstory and her sons are probably my favorite filler episodes of the Naruto series. Maybe it's because the music being freaking top tier. such mystic sadness and dread as the strings play.
I just realized the founder of all shinobi was trained by a 3-inch fucking frog. well done orange kermit
I think Kaguya should´ve had more screen time earlier to introduce the entire idea of her long before, it would´ve made everyone accept the idea of her when she entered the arena :)
But what I like the most of the entire Naruto story from the beginning to the end is the idea that it always puts u into the false sense of thinking that u know what is going and then takes it all away.. even Kaguya saying something about her getting ready for when "the others" arrive and it being a necessity to do all of the evil things she did is a frightening thing
Like what evil could anyone do for what they think must be done for the greater good, and how did they come to that conclusion? What do they know that we don´t know? Or are they just entirely mistaken about it all and doing unecessary evil because they are delusional?
To me it feels like it is about the old question: Does the end justify the means? Both Madara and Kaguya in a way seemed to share that belief
I think what makes the Kaguya arc disposable is that it required no agency from the central characters to ensue. I am well aware that it required more foreshadowing than an exposition dump by Madara.
Here is my fix:
The fight with Madara goes on after the Tsukuyomi, with him gaining an overwhelming advantage over Naruto and Sasuke. They still can't defeat him with the SOSP powers. Kurama suggests Naruto that there is a way to win over him, but at the cost of opening the seal of Kaguya (I can think of a power handicap here. Not that difficult!)
That would have created immediate drama. Not only does it give the duo a legible chance of defeating Madara, but now, Naruto is aware that they are releasing a far greater evil in the process, and he will have to bear its burden. But that would be their best shot at defeating Madara, rather than a cheap backstabbing. Also, it would make it necessary plot-wise for Kaguya to arrive, because without her, there was no way to take Madara out of the equation.
And yes, fuck Black Zetsu! That shit was annoying as hell.
It was a good call of kurama sugesting a solution. The thing is kaguya is more dangerous that madara. Also you have to fix lots of plot points there. You cant win against kaguya you have to seal her. With the sosp powers
@@bernardmartins1093 There are a couple of plot holes, I admit which will need to be addressed. For example, how exactly was Kurama aware of Kaguya? Did SOSP tell him? Because it predates its birth.
I believe that it's a decision that would also test Naruto's resolve. For someone who claims to save everyone, he is pretty much dooming the world. But his back needs to be pushed to the wall. He will have to encounter a situation where he would have no choice but to unlock the seal.
This is why Tenchi Bridge Arc and Pain Invasion work in contrast with each other. One where he lost control, the other where he assumed it. Here, you could have another variation of it.
Does saving the world come first or his friends? Let him choose under pressure.
@@Hydranzia it would be an epic scenery hehe. And im sure hagoromo would have told kurama about kaguya when kurama was a cute baby. Its a good reason to show baby kurama again
You should watch the next "filler" too. It is essential to understand ninshu, and this is the point that explain the philosophy of the show and why so many stuff happen when naruto share his chakra with other or why the have inner speech with Sasuke after connecting with Rasengan and Chidori.
Dude its filler ok
I don't think black zetsu plans undercut any character's struggles necessarily but it for sure undercut the viewers experience of the whole story/lore and it's character, I am personally fine with what black zetsu did albeit was too much, it just felt long and drawn out that's what (IMO) made it feel unnecessary, they should gave put that in a few minutes of exposition from black zetsu and moved on with the story then it probably might not have felt too unnecessary and drawn out. Or if that wasn't answer maybe they could have just let black zetsu spark the long war between the Uchiha and Senju, and change the stone tablet, that alone would have been enough. He just did too much and it was done in a way that it felt drawn out.
I said this in live stream but this flashback filler made by the director of the franchise who based ask Kishi about Kaguya and the bullet points that he gave him
i like how they talk shit about the "filler" episodes even though they're not filler and unfortunately they skip a lot of good episodes. However throughout these episodes they;re saying things like "so cool, oh this is so clever, this makes so much sense now". Yet they still say they don't like it because they have to stick to their initial reactions to when kaguya was introduced
The three shadows of the otsutsuki's are exactly as those in boruto like kinshiki and other 2 that who appeared 29:13..
"Madara own will", madara is so naive lmao
Black zetsu said they turn into zetsu slowly overtime, it takes longer than a few months
Since you guys are gonna watch Boruto then this Cannon+filler episodes are important tbh!
I need Black zetsu's level of dedication in my life.
Kaguya is based on the Moon Rabbit folklore from Chinese and Japanese mythology. It is essential to the plot as it explains about the origins of chakra in a normal world. Also, just FYI they hinted about it during the pain arc. For those who don't remember, Konan asks Nagato/ Pain when he performs the Chibaku Tensei/ Planetary devastation jutsu on Naruto. That time he says "We're dealing with the nine tails here. This is nothing compared to what the sage of the 6 paths did. He is said to have created the moon".
In this flashback that you guys saw, they show you exactly what it is. They sealed Kaguya and sent her to the moon. Hamura guards the moon and creates his ninja creed on the moon while Hagoromo creates his ninja creed on earth.
Carson, these episodes are more similar to like Inuyasha in terms of the time in which they took place. Like the Sengoku or Feudal Periods.
It's much older....this was from Yayoi period. The strange hairstyle of men actually the thing that made this era familiar. Sengoku was the Warring States period of Japan and in Naruto's equivalent to Hashirama and Madara's time.
They never stated that Hagoromo ever awakened the sharigan, only stated that Indra did. So Indra was probably the first to actually awaken the sharigan and not Hagoromo. Hagoromo only awakened the Rinnegan and that'd all, no stages leading up to it just the Rinnegan
29:14 just remember those three
Technically zetsu appears before madara in naruto at the end valley
Black Zetsu: I SPENT THOUSANDS OF YEARS DOING THAT SHIT, SO NOW I'M ALLOWED TO EXPLAIN THIS WHOLE PLAN!!
Y’all know that black zetsu was the one that changed the tablet which madara deciphered… so if zetsu didn’t exist it would’ve changed everything. Or well, we don’t know what the tablet said before he changed it.
Edit: i also just realised how much they foreshadowed the other otsutsuki coming to earth, or i mean, kaguya literally said it twice. I forgot about it and now, after more than 200 eps of Boruto i finally realise😐 If I didn’t rewatch Shippuden I would’ve never noticed either
my favourite locations in the entire verse, the lands of this and that
It is said that the land of "that" was the origin of *that* jutsu.
Its kinda funny to think that the power levels are basically defined by how closely related to Kaguya you are. Madara didn't deserve to have his final fight its perfect karma to rob him off it. While the implementation in the story is kinda eh I don't really have a problem with Kaguya at least with the anime backstory since in the manga she basically is just a obsticel.
@BOLDcast Black zetsu was foreshadowed a year before kaguya's debut in the manga (I think it was ch. 626). And Black zetsu "orchestrating" everything really isn't all that, he basically just spread the idea of infinite tsukuyomi, and let kabuto find madara's corpse. It DOESN'T UNDERCUT ANYTHING imo. If you want a truly lackluster "it was all planned" thing look at Bleach's Aizen, but even then it's done decently.
Lord Tenji was in a difficult situation.
Is kaguya in your top5 pretty naruto girls
did you got comment above me
I don't think Black Zetsu is saying he planned everything but more that it took him 1000 years of failures to finally start seeing results to achieve his goal.
Lol it's not the movie stardust, in the Japanese folklore, there is a story about a woman named Kaguya that came from the moon.
Thought I was going deaf the first few times I heard them say "the land of that".
Yeah.....Kaguya is still a Cool Character, because of her Creepiness & Ghost-like Character Design.
And she brought the Fight into a Whole new Level which is Exciting......but Storywise, Its kinda stretch or inserted.
Black zetsu look like the culprit in detective Conan
The ones captured in the divine tree earlier has changed into white zetsu. The ones we saw during hagoromo vs kaguya are new preys. Remember the ritual is done yearly
She refer other to momoshiki kinshiki and urashiki , they are in boruto anime.
Angels? Satan? Boy, if you don't get that Christain stuff outta my Asian Naruto.
I forgot how much of the boruto villains were foreshadowed in these episodes 😂
The reason for the whole black Zetsu thing is because at this point the story’s message has become no one is truly evil. Every villain has been the victim of hatred and manipulation, so in order for that to remain true Madara has to have been manipulated too
i forgot how extensive black zetsu’s plan was lmao i was like dang he still talkin
What's with the repeating frames?
Everyone forgets it took him 1000 years to get a possibility.......people forcibly try to make themselves hate the black zetsu concept....
16:45 "And Eren Yeager" nice one 😂
Not an alien.
There is a legend called Princess Kaguya in Japan.
gamamaru is still alive in the age of naruto.
A frog that makes prophecies.
Now we finally know exactly how Madara survived his battle with Hashirama. And it wasn't some never before heard of Jutsu, it was something we had already seen at least once before.
The black Zetsu twist just shows that time beats everything.
Can't believe they didn't notice Hagoromo's voice is the same as Zhongli's and Kimimaro
Yo that intro had me weak asf 😭😭😭😭😭😭
There were so many parts I was confused with since there was no consistency, especially with the kaguya backstory filler. Like why did the person Hagoromo was in love with die if the other people were alive when released from the infinite tsukuyomi, why are the tailed beasts created already, when it was said that hagoromo was the juubi jinchuriki and created them near his death, there were even flashbacks of them being small right before he died. Was kaguya a separate being from the juubi? Because when they sealed her the ten tails body withered away. How did Hamura start the Hyuuga when he literally went to the moon right after the fight, or even the weaker branch of otsutsuki if he went by himself? Also, Idk how many times zetsu mentioned that he messed with the stone tablet, but why is sasuke being all shocked when zetsu had mentioned it to madara before reviving kaguya? And the whole filler arc for the sons was confusing too because they made the lazy last-minute change to Indra's mangekyou pattern, I remember it being a swirl pattern, but whatever I guess.
BLACK zetsu is the worst thing because he fucked everything UP, like The akatsuki, he played everybody
So i think if he wasnt in the story, It could have been so Much cooler and better evidently.
I feel like zetsu was unnecessary. Kayga was just being used to set up her clan backstory for the future
When Hagoromo gave the paper to Hamura, Hamura awake the Tenseigan that is similar to the Rinnegan.
"Fuck Black Zetsu" pretty much sums it up imo.
if you go back to when hashirama was telling sasuke about his fight with madara you can see hashirama looked up when madara fell. and now they reveal that he actually sensed black zetsu
:Human talking about the choices of anime characters
:God talking about the choices of human characters
There are a lot of good comments that actually properly explain Black Zetsu since you misunderstood it so badly, and also remember the original white Zetsus were from the first time Kaguya used theInfinite Tuskuyomi, not really a backtrasck
29:11 *From this moment i new they will continue the story after shippuuden.*
they explained why indira acted that way using black zetsu.. they made the fight between senju and uchiha to be from black zetsu. He manipulated different people thats why everything took place.. they made it like that
Your thoughts on black zetsu are the thoughts of most of the community I believe.
Too bad you forgot to comment on the fact of existance of "them" aka more guys from outer space that Kaguya was anticipating and affraid of - but at least your reactions to mentioning them was fun.
Bruh why is this video so glitchy even on Patreon
If Kaguya sealing creatted the moon then how did Kaguya cast Infinite Tsukuyomi years ago??
I noticed it also, just one of many plot holes in this anime. But hey Madara could use Susanoo without having eyes so i guess it's fine.
You can see an animation of a portal opening in the sky. She used a "moon" from another place 😉
The writers admitted they didn’t know how to stop madara so they just did this
The people in the in the god tree don’t become zetsu right away it takes time they weren’t in there long enough