What does a victory for Putin look like? | Andrey Kortunov
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- “Maybe the idea is just to secure the territory of the two breakaway republics of Donbas, and that would be enough to declare victory and to withdraw.”
Russian Director General of the Russian International Affairs Council, Andrey Kortunov, talks to John Pienaar about Putin’s goals on #TimesRadio.
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Any and all weapons sent to Ukraine are considered “humanitarian aid”, period!
Genocide preventers.
Agree 100%
I am so freaking sick of this. I want the US to ship every single advanced weapon system we have in whatever quantities necessary for as long as needed to ensure Putin loses big. Ukraine is in charge of how it accepts when the invaders are repelled, but I will be extremely disappointed if both Crimea and the entirety of the "separatist" areas are not reclaimed by their rightful owners.
That tactic worked well in Vietnam.
@@amraceway Vietnam won; I suspect Ukraine will win as well!
@@angusmacfrankenstein7227 Unfortunately it will be a long drawn out affair and Ukraine like Vietnam would be super wealthy if the interferring superpowers spent money in those countries on economic development not destruction. Sadly the regular folk in those superpowers would also have been better off if their defective leadership was not obsessed with wasting taxpayer money on overpriced war toys.
Hi Ed. Real question… there are 3 options here. 1. Usa GIVES hundreds of millions of dollars of equipment to ukraine. 2. Usa SELLS them to ukraine. 3. Usa puts american troops on the ground. Which one of these are you suggesting?
@@grahamcharters1638 Number 2. What an opportunity to cash in on misery.
Eff it. Let's go all in. As a Cold War kid, I've heard all my life that we can't upset Russia because of nukes. I'm sick of it. All. In.
So glad you are not in charge. Yes, Russia is dreadful but WW3 would be worse.
The world war is inevitable, if it doesn't happen in this case of Ukraine war...it will come soon, as long as NATO keeps at Russian borders
I too am a Cold War kid...Let's. Do. This. 🤜
I too am the karate kid... sorry wrong forum 🤭
Is this the poker forum?
Putin's only quality is that he actually makes me miss Brezhnev.
Victory for Putin right now would be still be being alive come 2023
This conflict is looking like it's going to end up being the greatest self inflicted wound of all time.
Ukraine, Georgia, Japan and Finland should all demand that Russia return militarily taken land. They should also demand Russia pay for reparations and pay to maintain a UN-monitored DMZ inside Russia's borders.
...and China's North Manchuria :)
For Putin, real victory means conquering Ukraine, Moldova, Finland and the Baltic states. Their territories, but without the populations.
hahahah, he has no more tanks, weapons, ammo. all gone.
@@tabithan2978
He has a few left. 😂
For what? To turn them into more russuan wasteland?
When of course what Russia really needs is more people, not more land!
@@stephengrimmer35
Russia does not want enemies on its land. Hence the genocide.
Putin, the Poison Dwarf.
this was a good interview And although I longed for him to say to our Russian friend that Russian use of nuclear weapons would have course have horrific consequences for Russia and Russians and specifically the Russian armed forces the likes of which they've never experienced in their history it's simply is not the interviewers job to make statements that's the sort of thing that they do on Russia propaganda TV so I forgave him however he could have made it more clear that we have red lines and we have nuclear weapons and we will enforce our red lines and Russia will pay a horrible price for crossing them also we will not be dissuaded from supplying humanitarian aid in any form and any quantity we see fit to Ukraine by Russian nuclear blackmail but that's a very difficult ask in a short interview I really like this guy I seem to remember him from somewhere else ☺️
The situation is extremely delicate. The Ukrainians aren't asking for our soldiers but only the capability to defend themselves.
We need to support without direct engagement, that would be catastrophic for everyone...
It is IMMORAL to send weapons to Ukraine. They are being defeated and sending arms will only delay defeat and cause loss of life on both sides.
Your a coward. Just watching genocide happen again is appeasement . Putin is BLUFFING. You have to show strength with Putin. Not weakness even if that means using our own deterrents
If you got everything the US has and put in Ukraine now, Russia would crush Ukraine
@@om6035 lol Russia can barely fight Ukraine military. More Russian have died in a month then 10 years in Afghanistan usa . 10,000 Russians dead and only 3000 Americans died in Afghanistan
@@genebaughbba3479 that is one of the most inane comments ever
The "west" should meddle less in other countries, but the gross invasion of Ukraine is unacceptable. Relations had been improving between Russia & the West, then Putin decided to invade Europe, giving Europeans a needed wake up call. Every day Russia abuses Ukraine or other such democracies, the more Russians will be despised, and harsher the punishments will need to be.
Putin has already caused too much damage, thousand of dead Russians and Ukrainians, trillions in dollars of city in ruins....Putin has no way out
The West didn’t invade Ukraine
If those other countries would become liberal democracies themselves, they would need to lean less on the west.
I agree about in interfering less in other countries and Putin has gone to far, this risks bringing us back into the old state of constant conflict in Europe czcams.com/video/nbvKA0bxNW0/video.html
Get Mosad to take him out, I’m sure they could.
Uh, he's killing nazis in Ukraine, tens of thousands of men wearing red and black and openly displaying swastikas. Putin is a huge hero in Israel, to Jews all over the world, take my word for it. I'm certain Mossad is helping the Russians.
Israel and Russia are allies against Iran that is why Israel refused to send the iron dome to Ukraine. They do not want to anger Putin. As far as I read they will not help at all.
0:42: “We don’t know what Mr. Putin is trying to accomplish.”
Validation! I thought I was the only one who thought there wasn’t much sense in this action!
Ahem, he wants the oil, natural gas, nuclear power plants, most productive farmland, and access to the warm water ports of the Black Sea. Clear?
Guarantee fresh water to Crimea, secure Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait bridge. I would add that
your outro music nearly blew my speakers
Interesting - thanks TR
Goodwill will win over evil!
Once all the arms 30 countries are sending get,s to the front lines, Russia has no chance. It will take a lot of heavy metal to push the Orc,s out, they may withdraw when see the position is hopeless, constant attack,s with superior tech.
Sadly russia will be attacking railways in ukraine so everything will be delayed even further
@@MutualZebra0123 Yes, agreed, however there attacking station,s not bridge,s etc, easily repaired, more incompetance
@@steveworthington930 Railway is a way to supply so the bridges are.
Putin wanted the Soviet Union back then it’s imagined to be Empire.
A short while ago Putin said... 'a Russian that doesn't miss the USSR has no soul... a Russian that wants it back, has no brain' I guess that fits.
Before I watch this video, I'd like to answer the question in the title (which by the way is why I clicked on this video).
If Putin finishes up with slightest acre of useful land that he didn't have before, then he could claim a victory, even if somewhat pyrrhic.
Three quarters of Ukraine's coastline and ports and 5-10% of Ukraine's territory is still a good prize if not the jackpot.
He could claim a victory with much less.
Hate to say it, but I think you got something there-but is the cost worth it? And how long can Russia hold those points? I don’t think it looks good in the long term…
That is not possible . USA and Europe can't let it happen. There should be no change of Ukraine borders. Actually even Crimea should change their status in neutral country. That is the reason Putin wants to have Ukraine destroy because he started it with Crimea and there is no clear future for what he started .They just start a big mess .
❤️Ukrainian 🇬🇪
Tells us very much about the Russian people that they have accepted and cheered a monster like Putin since the early 2000s.
If you read some history about Russia in the 1991-2000 you will find out why Russians liked Putin very much in the beginning.
@@MathiasKp... and they still like him very much.
In my mind Putin will do whatever Putin wants to do anyway...until public or internal opinion forces him to do something. So the red line is not where he gets a reason to consider NATO a war party. The line is where he is forced by public or internal opinion that NATO is a war party.
He goes back in time and meets Nadia Comaneci
Time for Nato to join Ukraine into the fight
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Does anyone else find endless sounds and answers actually stating nothing annoying? Lavrov is great as well, like most ‘politicians’ -the hard facts need to be addressed!!great to FINALLY see Amal Clooney out speaking on HumanRights!
Too bad Putin already lost! :)))))
His future: A remote inhospitable exile guarded by AZOV Battalion!
Putin is a little Napoleon Bonaparte and all tyrants fate is to fail miserably. All of them.
Correct
@@bornatona3954 Cheers from Portugal, Borna.
I agree with you completely, but how short does a man have to be to qualify as a “little” Napoleon, given that Napoleon wasn’t exactly known for his towering height?!
@@angusmacfrankenstein7227 The reference is not to heights but to heart. Putin is a coward. Napoleon was not.
@@basiltozer9078 no, will not...azov is to big not only in Mariupol...putler is done just can't admit... whole west is against him and his feudal kingdom
Good job Ukraine Soldiers Stay strong and stay safe God Bless Ukraine Praying for your Country 🙏🙏🙏
11:24 nearly gave me heart attack! (I had headphone on at 90 volume)
F pukin.
Too bad for Putin. He needs to Retire. FSB, Military, get rid of this guy!!!! He is destroying your country.
The Putin is dead. Long live the Putin. Same as it ever was. The cronies around him are no better than him. A coup will not be a great improvement in reality.
Putin is trying to have a modern-day version of Holodomor?
We know Stalin is his hero and a role model.
What does a victory for Putin look like? Staying alive !
Good Interview, but why do you keep interrupting him - at least once in the middle of a crucial answer
It's ludicrous how the West still thinks that Russian oligarchs wield any power over Putin. Was Khodorkovsky not big enough to demonstrate that NOBODY can challenge his authority? If anybody, it's someone from within his inner circle, but history doesn't give us much hope in that regard.
Not an oligarch. All this situation needs is for one courageous FSB agent with one single bullet to end all this misery.
@@terrencekane8203 Well, that's about the only realistic shortcut. Sadly, it's also the most unlikely scenario. There are not many despots or dictators in world history that got assassinated by someone within their inner circle.
Oligarchs?They have no saying,its the other way around.
At this point anything other than defeat is a victory. The last thing Russians should be planning is a victory party. Lol!
LOCOMOTIVE BREATHE ---- Victory will slip through his fingers... no way to slow down.
Pls God help 🙏 Ukraine let this war end pls God 🙏 south africa 🇿🇦
Well lets hope Russia is defeated
Can you remove the mouse arrow next time?
The problem is, people find it difficult it not impossible to admit they were wrong all along. They simply cannot admit it, even to themselves, that they have been fooled and lied to. It took total defeat and re-education to achieve it in Germany in 1945, and even then, the passing from power of a generation, so any conceivable Russian "defeat" is only going to incubate grievance and a sense of victimhood. Germany 1919, not 45.
I don't think support for a leader is real if it's under duress?
Am I alone in believing that, given the impact of this war on the whole of Europe, that more European countries need to take a more direct role, including SENDING TROOPS, in helping fight off the Russians? Their own security is at stake here if Russia wins, regardless of Ukraine not being members of NATO. NATO is a mutual defense pact, but does non-membership mean, “Sorry, you’re on your own”?
Imo they should do it covertly and just play Russia’s game >> deny involvement and keep lying about it. You have to play dictator regimes with their rules.
1. NATO, by its own rules, is not allowed to get directly involved.
2. If NATO did get involved, a full-scale nuclear war would likely be inevitable. And that would mean the end of human civilisation.
3. Not even Ukraine has requested NATO troops to join theirs.
Don't you read?
You almost understood it. Almost. Mutual defense pact. Once NATO troops start fighting Russian troops, then it is NATO who escalated. A defensive pact does not escalate. Keep thinking and you'll get it one day. Hopefully not a day when you are enlisted and placed on the frontline with the Russians bearing down on you. I doubt you'd wish to fight a war yourself.
Parkinson's Putin may not be prepared to accept defeat, but that's not to say that some who are a bit saner won't "remove" him from power and heap all the blame on him. A spectacular victory parade for 9th May was promised, but it's looking very like this is going to be heavily rained on, with severe and very public humiliation for the psychopath.
Now it looks like it will be a moderately rainy day.
I hope balloons and model planes can be flown over the Red Square, with some appropriately scathing messages.
Putin is a russian johnny English who thinks hes jason bourne
escalate to nukes? go ahead punk, make my day....
I don’t know if I fired 5999 Nukes or 6000 questions is do you feel lucky Russian punk ... do ya!!!!
Whatever happens on the ground in Ukraine, Putin will spin it as a victory for domestic consumption.
Exactly, and he will just say the sanctions prove that the USA and NATO is out to get Russia, just as he has always told them, and his approval rating will simply increase again.
US and 35 countries including NATO had sent scaled up heavy weapons as humanitarian aid to Ukraine. Don't these aid help to stop Putin?
The fellow asking the questions has not been following the news. Very pie-in-the-sky POV. Then he gets to the obvious. Glad it's his job, not mine.
Funny eh, i was very impressed with the questions being asked. He was diplomatic but to the point.
Yeh and IF russia does lose the war there's always that saying GOING DOWN IN A BLAZE OF GLORY
Can't wait for p's physicians to make a "mistake" with his medications. Would get a Nobel Peace Prize.
Mariupol sealed off, so no fly can get through. That is Putin’s definition of victory.
This man is a russian realist
Putin's candle is burning from both ends.
It will still be classed as a major threat as long as it nuclear weapons are in its Arsenal. A more interesting question is based on the sanctions if the war finished tomorrow when will the sanctions end do we keep them for a week a year or forever. Because I can see Russia just going back to its old self as though nothing has happened when the sanctions are lifted. It will rebuild its army and then try again.
There are enough orcs in Russia to believe that Europe can't manage without their resources so they use that leverage. But before 1989 all Europe has managed quite well without USSR resources.
At this point, Putin's victory is not to be executed.
I don't know *exactly* what victory looks like for Putin but I'm pretty sure it has the general shape of a small fig leaf.
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Why wpuld putin care about electorate as elections are fixed, ans why care about oligarchs when he wields power over then not the other way around. We are trying to beat Putin using our weatern ideals and approach to democracy but her is on another wavelength
What makes you think that Russian elections are fixed and any less democratic than any others around the world? It's a democracy, all mayors, governors and such are elected by popular vote. President too. Putin has worked hard to establish democratic institutions in Russia and has been fairly successful. Putin won in a fair election in 2018 and has a six year term that runs out in 2024. If the Russians don't like him they are free to replace him. But they won't because he's doing a great job and is very popular. The Russians may not like some things he's doing, but the alternative is European-style social democracy and a return to socialism, and the Russians hate socialism and communism more than anyone. I'm sure you'll just deny that but it's true. My guess is both Trump and Putin win re-election in 2024. Then the s will really hit the fan.
HOW ON EARTH CAN HE LOOSE PUBLIC SUPPORT
WHEN HE SHOWS HIMSELF TO BE AS HE LIKES !!! ....
NO TRUTH IN SIGHT ....
HOW CAN HE LOOSE PUBLIC SUPPORT !
Would a bombing of the Crimean Bridge by Ukraine be sufficient to provoke a nuclear retaliation by Russia?
I suspect it might be as simple as him not liking the feeling of being fenced in, feeling he’s being denied access to the Black Sea or his bread basket (Ukraine).
Neither of those were ever his as leader of Russia. His narcissism and psychopathy may make him think he has claim, but that is not the case. He may also be threatened recent smaller uprisings. Kazakhstan had an uprising in January. These uprisings tend to spark other ones. And he is old, fearful, and sickly in appearance. No one without a gun to their head would consider present day Putin as a macho man, a strong man. So he saber rattles while murdering his henchmen. It's an old story, isn't it? How terrible to be a dishonorable cliche responsible for the suffering of millions.
@@basiltozer9078 Of course, you're correct! His conception of himself as the state of Russia and his exploitation is repulsive, so I got carried away.
@@basiltozer9078 is it the the bread basket or the oil that he wants then . The whole thing reminds me of Aesop’s fable, The Wolf and the Lamb.
Victory for Putin is looking down on his own funny funny floor covered in his own mess up to his knees. What a sight and stretch to see
The host is surely not a chess master..
What does a Putin victory look like? We’ll never know!
He’s never going to know what ‘ winning ‘looks like . Just ask Charlie Sheen
Putin can't have a defeat - diddums - as and when and if Putin is taken out the simplest way as he loves a pretty face and his pet dogs is to find someone who could be a model (or gymnast lol) with the cutest puppy ever as a gift. The method I leave to those in the know
Eratum: Mugabe did not died in office
And Sulla retired to his country villa.
The interviewer asked good questions.
Not just Donbas pukestain wants. There’ll be a red flag in Transnistria and into Odessa he goes. Im sure he knows he can’t just saunter onto the beach at Odessa now so will have to go in from North and South.
My greatest fear is that Putin will not have a lot to celebrate on Dyen Pobyedy, so he'll launch a tactical nuke on Kyiv to cheer himself up. I hope I am wrong.
He tries he dies
No invader on one square inch of Ukraine
This incursion has always been about Odessa. Putin wants a Peter the Great legacy. That’s Odessa not Donbas. He’ll be desperate about it surely so escalation is a real potential. I have a concern about his health. He may have concerns for his mortality. He should
#buymeafighterjet
who cares what this russian thinks
He needs to stop smoking the drapes
Pootin if he wins Donbass can Never withdraw, it will be under siege, worse than Mariupol. Who pays to rebuild any or all parts of Ukraine?
Who cares what putting feels. 🚫
I think you are so enraged that anything you might view as a loss for you would be interpreted as a victory for poutine!! So actually poutine always wins
It looks like a pile or corpses.
Estamos en 2022 putin sigue 1980
True
Victory for putin or become slaves of putin
Poutins anny victory less ,is stay alive 😉
God bless Ukraine....kuasa kejahatan dan kegelapan tidak akan menang...In Jesus Name
Sorry. We want to listen to the interviewee, not the interviewer and his western biases.
He'd hardly want an eastern one. That's worthless.
so much love for Putin and Russia
The West's altitude today stinks .we think we know it all and can do what we like .we will soon see how wrong we are .and I would like to know why are so many people leaving the Ukraine only a small part of it has been invaded
You've managed to sound more odd than the real SB.
Steve , i'm in a good mood today so i'll give you a free consultation. People are leaving because the whole country is being bombed without concern for women & children.The west is standing up to an evil man.
ffs ...you are seriously deranged...
Indiscriminate bombing ;in answer to your question.