Vermont - The Direction Of This Game Worries Me

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  • čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
  • Queued up in Vermont to just shoot some boats, but some fun and engaging interactions with subs and CVs instead made this fifteen minutes of suffering. These games are becoming more frequent, and that's a very real problem.
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Komentáře • 442

  • @Flamuu
    @Flamuu  Před rokem +346

    I don't want to be too negative as I still have a deep love for WoWS, but games like these are becoming much more frequent. And this was just featuring T8 ships, it could've been T10s, or god forbid, superships. Some highlights include 10:30, when CV auto-ASW does what I couldn't do all game and 13:45 is really just the cherry on top. And everything WG has promised for us in 2023 appears to just make these issues worse.

    • @britinmadrid
      @britinmadrid Před rokem +11

      I’ll be interested to see player numbers over the next few months (summer’s a-coming too). What a train wreck of a new vessel class!

    • @illegalopinions4082
      @illegalopinions4082 Před rokem +24

      The game's already dead. WG have shown that they categorically do not care about your opinion. Just farm the game for content and diversify your income stream, because otherwise when the game dies so do you.

    • @RysenKai
      @RysenKai Před rokem +13

      Flamu: "I don't want to be too negative"
      The game: "Observe..."

    • @hiddentruth1982
      @hiddentruth1982 Před rokem +12

      this why I have been against subs since day 1.

    • @johannesflood5485
      @johannesflood5485 Před rokem +8

      Happy i left stoped playing this game the day subs went live, this video just prove how wg keeps destroying a previously rather good game (before cv rework...)

  • @adadianian
    @adadianian Před rokem +309

    I've never seen Flamu so sad while playing wows, that's actually heartbreaking to see

    • @glr4764
      @glr4764 Před rokem +22

      I noticed that as well; Flamu has always truly loved the game and to see him so sad about its state brings the current situation home a bit. What's worse is I often find myself feeling the way he looked during matches; like wtf is the point of playing when things are like this. Game is just becoming a misery generator for anyone who doesn't play CV or Sub ie the spoiled golden child favored classes.

    • @danehutchins3845
      @danehutchins3845 Před rokem +4

      Flamu lost hid smile...

    • @dogthatlooksattaxevaders6325
      @dogthatlooksattaxevaders6325 Před rokem +5

      the smile we failed to protec

    • @taddl2k666
      @taddl2k666 Před rokem +1

      But look at 14:00 he is laughing. Sooo clearly he must be having fun, right?

    • @khuadedadkasi6425
      @khuadedadkasi6425 Před rokem +1

      The same thing happened with me playing Montana T10 German sub turtured me while match and in the last 5 mins I did 150k damage but git killed by same sub.

  • @simmonsjoe
    @simmonsjoe Před rokem +125

    The "I was not allowed to play the game" comment really resonated with me. It's becoming worse and worse. Half my matches I think "what a waste of my time"

    • @rickb6694
      @rickb6694 Před rokem

      Same. "Hmm can I play the game now?" Move up one square. "Nope"

    • @Matthew10950
      @Matthew10950 Před rokem

      Only half?

    • @SuperCocoKiller
      @SuperCocoKiller Před rokem

      do what I did, drop the game, best choise I ever did

  • @meganoobbg3387
    @meganoobbg3387 Před rokem +131

    Fighting submarines in this game is honestly like a boss battle, or a horror game like Alien isolation. Your only "counterplay" is to just runaway or get torped, and the constant pinging sure sound like you're being chased by an alien ship.

    • @breadbug6101
      @breadbug6101 Před rokem +5

      Fighting submarines is like fighting those introductory bosses that don’t have a healthbar

    • @lordzortak
      @lordzortak Před rokem +4

      the pinging reminds me of the motion tracker in aliens as well.

    • @antisoda
      @antisoda Před rokem +5

      As someone with in-depth knowledge once said, _"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."_ :)

  • @Josh10Force
    @Josh10Force Před rokem +185

    Such amazing counter-play opportunities vs that div, CVs and submarines are truly one of the additions of all time.

    • @TheRobincanuck
      @TheRobincanuck Před rokem +2

      don't forget about super ships!

    • @VulpseiusFox
      @VulpseiusFox Před rokem +6

      To be fair, at least you can have some sort of counter play to super ships. Still completely dumb, but still able to work with. Subs and CVS though, especially if they’re deliberately doing divisions together, forget it. You have to pray that they’re mega mentally special to have even a prayer, and that’s not very often.

    • @MK-wx5vu
      @MK-wx5vu Před rokem +4

      @@TheRobincanuck superships you can counterplay by positioning smart, dodging and - pay attention: actually shooting them - the one thing thats usually not possible with our 2 favourite classes

    • @TheRobincanuck
      @TheRobincanuck Před rokem

      @@MK-wx5vu yes but now playing tier 9 is terrible

    • @MK-wx5vu
      @MK-wx5vu Před rokem

      @@TheRobincanuck that's absolutely correct. But it's also a completely different problem.

  • @ichasegaming
    @ichasegaming Před rokem +275

    Modern WoWs is throwing every piece of shit they can at a wall and everything that sticks great, and everything that doesn't stick, they apply duct tape to make it stick. The little time I get to play WoWS always ends with me rage quitting the game. When I thought that they couldn't possibly make things worse than rework CVs, they come in with current submarines, what the actual fuck is up with WG devs????

    • @dzello
      @dzello Před rokem +7

      With a player that has tens of thousands of games and red stats sliding in the matchmaking here and there to spice up your experience! Right? ;)

    • @legionthunder7991
      @legionthunder7991 Před rokem +6

      The devs have some sort of hidden stash of drugs, and it's that real good shit they don't want to share...

    • @stefanpajung113
      @stefanpajung113 Před rokem +5

      I played 4 games today, after which I had to quit in disgust. The game is going the way of the Dodo, and WG just tries to squeeze the last penny from the whales before they have to shut down the servers. So sad to see this once great game end this way. Oh well, I had some fun while it lasted.

    • @jadedrivers6794
      @jadedrivers6794 Před rokem +7

      Simple, WG stopped caring and so should you.

    • @breadbug6101
      @breadbug6101 Před rokem +2

      WG: Improve the quality of the game? What’s that? Gotta add Commonwealth Submarines and Pan Asian CV lines!

  • @oldsmobileguy81
    @oldsmobileguy81 Před rokem +16

    They should give the submarines their historical 9 knots submerged and 21 knots on the surface. Other ships like the iowa are stuck to their historical speeds... using the logic they've used on subs my Iowa should do 99 knots

  • @Superintendent8814
    @Superintendent8814 Před rokem +28

    Every time I have the urge to log in and play a few games, I just think of games like this and it kills any excitement I could have. Last game I played was in Sinop and was tortured the entire game by a sub while my team imploded (as they usually do).

  • @Sarfanger
    @Sarfanger Před rokem +15

    First 1/4 game 0dmg all because everybody and everything is denying you.
    It is amazing to watch how two tier 8s can totally lock you out from match. This is basically worst case that can happen.
    You can't have effect to match and you don't just die, so you could go to next match. You're basically being held hostage by two players that are from two broken ship classes.
    Can't wait to see somebody comment "If you felt useless you should have,just rushed to die or leave the match"
    If gameplay is so bad that only option is to leave or suicide, then GAME IS FUCKING BROKEN!

  • @Southern1581Trainz
    @Southern1581Trainz Před rokem +27

    The Anti-Slava Challenge: Do 0 damage in the first 5 minutes despite your best efforts

    • @satagaming9144
      @satagaming9144 Před rokem

      Imagine being a new player, trying to learn the core gameplay in the game's current state. Good decisions are punished as often as mistakes are

  • @Unknown.NotRegistered
    @Unknown.NotRegistered Před rokem +24

    When everybody is suffering, then we'll have true equity.

  • @williamnorris2906
    @williamnorris2906 Před rokem +43

    I will say it yet again. Give players game mode options and let them play the mode they want. One of these should be "classic" mode. This would basically be the original maps and ships of US, France, Japan, Soviet Union and UK but NO CV'S. There would be no development costs with this and the only reason I can think of they won't do it is because it would be so Fing popular it would put the new stuff right back in their face.

    • @Crimson34533
      @Crimson34533 Před rokem +4

      you keep playing, they'll keep playing. As long as people contiue to give them money and play the game they don't have to do fuck all

    • @blgaming5771
      @blgaming5771 Před rokem +3

      I suspect the reason is two-fold.
      1) The queue time would get even longer, to the point of WG top level execs noticing it as reduced profits and player retention.
      2) It would show that a substantial portion of playerbase hates changes that were added in last 5 or so years.
      So if they did it as a serious gamemode, execs could start asking project managers difficult questions like: Did we invest 5 years worth of resources into this product, only for it to get less profitable? Who´s fault it is? etc.

    • @Ddonaldson9
      @Ddonaldson9 Před rokem +1

      How do you think that matchmaker is going to actually look when you let the entire player base choose to opt-out of cv's?

  • @AzureAlliance31
    @AzureAlliance31 Před rokem +7

    16:59 Vermont's Vengeance

  • @Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll
    @Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll Před rokem +13

    4:14 Flamu discovers the famed “alternative interaction” you can have as a surface ship captain against subs and carriers!

    • @zane660
      @zane660 Před rokem +1

      Lmao

    • @Pepega_Ch
      @Pepega_Ch Před rokem

      Should've reported once per animal because two reports on one player are counted as _one_

  • @syedushherahmad311
    @syedushherahmad311 Před rokem +17

    I actually like WOWs. It forces me to play games which arent being nuked by their devs

    • @VulpseiusFox
      @VulpseiusFox Před rokem +2

      Had me in the first half not gonna lie. I initially read most of the comment and I was like, “oh it’s one of those sadists who love being tortured and dishing out torture to others as well”, but then I read through the rest and the context clicked in. Yeah that’s pretty much my sentiment too. “Thank you for being in this state! You’re allowing me to branch out and find other games to play!” XD

  • @solidtoto
    @solidtoto Před rokem +71

    I love how the Cv can easily strike the best AA BB in the game, peak game design.
    Edit: and a T8 CV!

    • @shriekinambassador5042
      @shriekinambassador5042 Před rokem +5

      AA- is worthless at preventing strike all it does is punish low winrate CV players a bit. Atlanta, Worcester, Des Moines can do nothing. Only maybe Pan European DDs and Jinan can do CV ambushes.

    • @kuramathewolf
      @kuramathewolf Před rokem +1

      @@shriekinambassador5042 only halland is true repellent on CVs

    • @mennoafink1351
      @mennoafink1351 Před rokem +9

      My AA built Worcester can’t stop an air attack either. They were working on an AA rework but you don’t hear anything about it anymore. Probably because it would shoot down planes and we can’t have that off course

    • @Posilepton
      @Posilepton Před rokem

      Wait what part of it was easy? Shoukaku only striked him twice for like 12k damage total and lost all of the two squads when doing so. 90% of the problem here is the sub and/or hybrid.

    • @shriekinambassador5042
      @shriekinambassador5042 Před rokem

      @@kuramathewolf gronningen is another even vs t10 cvs it can ambush except maybe fdr but this CV is thankfully shit and only good vs bbs.

  • @malamutekid8871
    @malamutekid8871 Před rokem +11

    I actually love how you turned it around at the end

  • @zongrenli3951
    @zongrenli3951 Před rokem +6

    Every few days i start up wows, look at the port for a few seconds and everytime, the will to play the game leaves my body instantly.

    • @pitbrand
      @pitbrand Před rokem

      I do this a bit more these days or end up playing maybe two or three matches and then I've had enough.

  • @myopicautisticmetal9035
    @myopicautisticmetal9035 Před rokem +15

    I haven't played in a while now, my stress levels are in a better zone. Welcome to my usual games, I felt like I was watching myself play at times.

  • @enest94
    @enest94 Před rokem +43

    I haven't played in almost 3 years, and I've been thinking about getting back into WOWS because I remember all the fun I had in it.
    But then I see videos like these just confirming that the game has continued in the horrible direction which made me stop playing it in the first place. I want to play again, but it almost feel pointless if the game has just gotten worse in some ways and will keep getting worse.

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 Před rokem +4

      Totally don't bother; it was at it's best 3 years ago.

    • @glr4764
      @glr4764 Před rokem +2

      @@EvoraGT430 4 years now since CV rebork; was beginning of Feb 2019.

    • @nissan300ztt
      @nissan300ztt Před rokem +4

      Stay away my friend, youll be a lot happier. This game is straight hot trash now. All my friends who use to play refuse to even log in anymore.

    • @aasgier9091
      @aasgier9091 Před rokem +4

      I am also in this boat. I remember the fun I had in World of Warships, but I also remember hating CVs... and subs only made my gripes with the game worse. Even introducing the ships from my own country didn't bring that spark back - probably because giving them airstrikes made about as much sense as sticking tits on a pig. The Dutch navy was known for a lot of things, but airstrikes weren't it.
      But I digress. The day I reinstall World of Warships is the day they announce a gamemode without subs and aircraft carriers.

  • @CyberneticArgumentCreator

    I'm grinding out the Japanese torp boat DD line. I'm at tier 7. Last night I logged on and first queue I had a game with 2 Tier 8 CVs per team in it. I went to the cap, perfectly lodged behind a tiny island, held off the cap from their DD and sub on the point without being spotted. Immediately a CV comes in and blind drops me in smoke for 30% of my HP. I peek out after to catch a DD looking the other way at low hp and finish him with a couple of salvos then reverse back into cover. I have taken 0 hits from ships. I drive out and predict the sub's path and depth him out of the circle, cap it, and seconds later another bomber casually comes by and dev strikes me while I'm going full speed and turning for the last 70% of my hp. I think it might have also been a detonation through my 70% detonation prevention, I can't remember because I was so mad I force closed the game. Two drops and I'm dead in a DD with 0 hits taken from enemy ships. I perfectly played opening minutes of the round and died to something I had no agency or counter for.
    They'll never ever get premium time from me as long as CVs exist because I can't imagine a mechanic for them which promotes fun gameplay.

  • @SmugCanadian
    @SmugCanadian Před rokem +14

    The only people I know who still play this game only play Subs/CV's just to drive as many players away from the game as possible via rage-quitting so it finally dies.

    • @dugeusclin
      @dugeusclin Před rokem +6

      since wg likes griefing so much, that is the only correct response.

  • @thehumus8688
    @thehumus8688 Před rokem +30

    Flolo : "I didnt start streaming, to not enjoy myself
    Me : " I watch the stream to bath in flolo salt and suffering uwu"

  • @locke4642
    @locke4642 Před rokem +10

    I'm actually thankful for the WOWS Devs. My games have gotten better and better with the addition of more CVs and Subs. I no longer waste my time with wargaming filth and actually play other games that are actually fun. Thanks Wargaming, you made my life better!

    • @junkiexl86
      @junkiexl86 Před 10 měsíci

      Yet you're consuming content about said filth lol

    • @locke4642
      @locke4642 Před 10 měsíci

      What can I say, I like Flamu@@junkiexl86

  • @Brogenitor
    @Brogenitor Před rokem +6

    Don't forget, WeeGee is instituting policies to make it even less worth a BB's while to push up with the nerf to potential damage. Every new class, every rule change, everything they do is aimed to punish anyone not playing a CV or a sub. And until people stop giving them money, it's not gonna change.

  • @AllAhabNoMoby
    @AllAhabNoMoby Před rokem +8

    That was insanely depressing to watch. I wish I could say that has never happened to me but I'd be lying. I've had two breaks from the game so far since submarines were definitively introduced, one lasted 3 months.
    This is not going to get better is it?

  • @WildwoodSon
    @WildwoodSon Před rokem +8

    I'd love to see WoWS Classic available, like it was before the original CV changes, when the T6 Cleveland was OP.

    • @vtr0104
      @vtr0104 Před rokem +2

      I mean, it's still pretty good at T8 too...

  • @nickarooroo6397
    @nickarooroo6397 Před rokem +15

    Big counterplay, perfectly balanced, not annoying at all, everything is fine, no issues here. GG WG.

  • @alfredneumann4332
    @alfredneumann4332 Před rokem +4

    and remember, as per the latest update they nerf BBs. in this meta. they've lost all connections to reality

  • @distant6606
    @distant6606 Před rokem +5

    poor flamuu. us plebs can just quit if we dont have fun anymore but flamuu over here makes a living out of it. :(

  • @hokkikokki
    @hokkikokki Před rokem +4

    Flamu is a super unicum playing this game. Imagine this was played by Average Jill / John. How much more suffering there would have been.

    • @Ddonaldson9
      @Ddonaldson9 Před rokem +1

      One of the problems is that the new average J/J has such a poor understanding of the game and it's mechanics they don't even realize how much cv's screw up those mechanics.

  • @treystroeder588
    @treystroeder588 Před rokem +3

    I have never seen Flamu this sad. The occasional rage? Sure... but never sad, especially given how much Flamu likes the game. What an absolute heartbreaking thing to watch.

  • @bnbadagin
    @bnbadagin Před rokem +5

    This is why I have played WoWS more infrequently. I feel your pain! Your reaction @ 14:00 is hilarious btw.

  • @Nitryl44
    @Nitryl44 Před rokem +3

    Random as become bullshit with CVs, subs, and superships, so now i play only operation mode. It's fun enough, up to T8, and WG said they thinking about create upper tier OPs...

  • @the1minus5
    @the1minus5 Před rokem +25

    The exact same thing happened to me yesterday in my Yamato but it was a hayate instead of a sub, Our Malta ignored him the entire game to help his div mate in the Des Moines, looked up the Malta and Des Moines afterwards, 45% Des Moines and a 42% Malta, so fun watching the best ship archetype watch the entire right side of the map die and do nothing but help his division friend

    • @LGB007
      @LGB007 Před rokem +1

      The CV rework and Subs have ruined the game. AA is basically useless and the SUBs are super fast speedsters on top and below the water. Homing torpedos, cmon.

    • @fikumik
      @fikumik Před rokem +2

      @@LGB007 yep, imo subs could have same potential if they remove homing torps and make tham significantly slower, especially under water

    • @glr4764
      @glr4764 Před rokem

      Difference being a DD could actually be radared or spotted by a CV or even another DD, can't hit you more than 1 torpedo really if you angle right unlike subs with BS homing torpedo's while also pining you to soak damage cons...
      Meanwhile subs are basically immune to being spotted while they have battery, ridiculously difficult to kill with airstrikes since you have so little info on the subs heading and speed, and homing torpedo are truly the most retard proof weapon ever imagined in WoWs which is not a compliment... And subs are even designed around basically ingoring each other and CVs and discouraged from hunting CVs the was CVs can't really hunt subs....
      The 2 most toxic BS classes are so because their gameplay is literally built around ignoring each other and their own class in favor of dumping all their toxic BS on the majority of players who play the 3 surface classes. If their BS canceled each other out like old RTS CVs the game would have been vastly better.

  • @kerotomas1
    @kerotomas1 Před rokem +4

    Imagine just how sick some people have to be to play a sub/cv division….

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 Před rokem

      Sick and useless at any other class.

  • @professionalantichristhate528

    I've had games with a Malta or a Kaga on the enemy team where our team has shot down over 100 planes and he's still throwing out full squadrons at the end of the game. It's ridiculous.

  • @Wo_9
    @Wo_9 Před rokem +1

    Im really sorry you had to go through that Flamu. I've been watching you for years and to see you fall into despair over one match truly speaks volumes for how low this game has gone.

  • @zaeltrus
    @zaeltrus Před rokem +2

    I literally had the same experience yesterday, my flank died in minutes around me and then I was focused by a sub and a cv until I died. This was paired with the troll-y dispersion of the Republique. I was on the verge of crying ngl, logged right out of the game. And I had the same thought, we play games to have fun, all I feel playing this game now is stress, anxiety and frustration...

  • @MrSCOTTtheSCOT
    @MrSCOTTtheSCOT Před rokem +7

    I was focused by a nebraska and lexington in my alsace, focused the whole game shot down 31 planes (T7/9) with mush on the enemy team, take out 2 ships make 3rd on the team and get reported , cause i'm tied up by two ships flying planes at me and spamming HE from the nebraska behind an island . That's such an amazing introduction to these camping hybrids, Weirdly i have found myself on teams with no Hybrid BB more often than not so enemy have 2 planes carrying ships my team absent of that so your dds are fked also. , then i have a sub also pingning me non stop, (who i actually got with DCS) so shooting surface ships in between all that is this fun , far from the surface warship game i signed up to in 2012, I'm playing shorter and shorter , what used to be 2 to 4 hours maybe longer on certain days at the starting years , now after 2 games its log out .

  • @potatowhisperer333
    @potatowhisperer333 Před rokem +6

    Message from WG developers: “Just play CV…” 😂

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 Před rokem +2

      Because World of Warplanes was SUCH a success.......

  • @Razgries86
    @Razgries86 Před rokem +5

    Like you said the auto ASW knows where his submarine is going, a player can not know that. The ping is only where he is without the ship on the mini map he could be facing any direction. I've been seeing matches like that constantly on NA servers. Even though WG is giving out premium time to keep people playing, I still just quit about a week ago and have not played again yet. I wish thousands of people would just drop from the player base for a couple weeks to show them. Since they literally don't give a damn what we think. But they DO care about Queue times....

  • @lint8391
    @lint8391 Před rokem +4

    It's the lack of counter play and the feeling of hopelessness that made me quit this game 2 years ago and stay away from it since.
    BTW, this must be the lowest damage battle that I've ever seen Flamu have.

  • @2fat4airborne44
    @2fat4airborne44 Před rokem +2

    after this, Flamu needs a hug and a beer.

    • @JD-kl8hz
      @JD-kl8hz Před rokem

      more like a gun, a glass of whiskey and two bullets,lol

  • @joedoe6444
    @joedoe6444 Před rokem +3

    when enough players figure out how to fight subs this game will become unplayable by surface ships. they need to nerf the underwater speed of subs, kill the guided torps, give unlimited range to the ASW planes, and give all ships hydro that detects subs at any depth when in range.

  • @deweybrightside2276
    @deweybrightside2276 Před rokem +1

    "If this is the experience I'm going to get, I'm just not going to play." Same, Flamu. Same. Everyone's a pinata for CVs and subs are there to take all the candy. Every weekend I plan to play a little WoWs...and I almost always decide there's better stuff to do.

  • @oseansoldier
    @oseansoldier Před rokem +2

    I quit player years ago. Keep watching your videos to see how the game is doing but haven’t seen anything to convince me to come back.

  • @catguy9229
    @catguy9229 Před rokem +1

    Alternative title: Flamu looses his sanity for 19 minutes.

  • @Paratemori
    @Paratemori Před rokem +4

    This was sad. I've been there myself. I agree this kind of games have become frequent. It's a truly disappointing path for wows.

  • @gphushwl
    @gphushwl Před rokem +1

    this is actually very encouraging to me - i have games like this all the time - so glad it happens to even Flamu - except my team is probably terrible

  • @chrismastrorocco4945
    @chrismastrorocco4945 Před rokem +1

    I thought about getting back into the game this morning, thank god I watched this video. Nothing about that looks fun.

  • @danielsherrill7085
    @danielsherrill7085 Před rokem +1

    This match is typical of how my games have been recently. Just torture to the point of quitting for the day and trying again later, only to get tortured again. I find myself playing less and less bc of the sky cancer and submarines. I was dead in less than 5 minutes in the Giuseppe Verde when uptiered to a super ship match against Eagle. He just focused me and only me till I was dead. I wasn’t even the closest ship to him, nor was I alone. Had a Minnesota game as well where the sub tortured me all game long. Just followed me for 20 minutes spamming torpedoes, ignoring everyone else. So fun and engaging!

  • @thetrujelo
    @thetrujelo Před rokem +1

    Its rather funny that the more a class of ship should fear subs, the better they are at countering them.
    Destroyers have laughable ASW, Cruisers have mixed ASW, BBs have long range airstrikes, and CV's literally autopilot over the sub after popping a fighter squadron on them.

  • @andrelascasas3156
    @andrelascasas3156 Před rokem +2

    Whats the best way to sell my account while it still holds some value? Havent played in two years and dont plan on coming back, but I have some valuable ships

  • @thewatcher4616
    @thewatcher4616 Před rokem +1

    At 4:32 flamu completed the anti Slava challenge: 5 minutes without dealing damage.
    Passive meta is fun.

  • @AdamGibbyMC2012
    @AdamGibbyMC2012 Před rokem +1

    The pain you were feeling is palpable. Been there so many times . Its getting so bad!!!

  • @ombraforza5780
    @ombraforza5780 Před rokem +1

    This game reminds me of a game I had in the GK.
    I was tortured for most of the match by an FDR and once the game was concluding, I got to push and killed the CV

  • @TheMadness51
    @TheMadness51 Před rokem +2

    Saw this all weekend. All I could say in chat was Yuri says I not hit pixel. And it's not limited to high tier. It's more of a game of run away. Too many matches of landslide win/loses. Game play almost feels predetermined by WG before I even hit w key.

  • @g00bergob94
    @g00bergob94 Před rokem +1

    And you will still have actual crater heads with a puddle of drool on their desk saying how carriers and subs are balanced and have effective counterplay.

  • @SuperNecrophobe
    @SuperNecrophobe Před rokem +2

    First of all, i really respect you for your passion, the love for the game and tons of quality videos. Seeing you sad however, rings the bell for me. This game is no longer the same as it used to be - WG are making it worse and worse with each patch and "balance". I quit 3 years ago and i'm not coming back. Loved the game, so i always do watch your videos to see what's new or how the game evolved. I see tons of issues recently caused by "balancing" for many wrong reasons.
    If you might decide to switch over to another game one day... it would be great :)

  • @tonythehun1
    @tonythehun1 Před rokem +1

    if a player of your caliber has no or little hope against cv's/ subs, what chance does an average player have against these two classes. i guess eventually wg will have to made hydro that actually detects subs? but i doubt it.

  • @MT-ff8bf
    @MT-ff8bf Před rokem +1

    easy: 1. Reduce Submerged Time of Subs by reducing their battery-dive system by 50%, 2. reduce the plane recovery on CVs and add a total amount ot aircrafts they have. like maximum of 100 planes or such...if they constantly fly against hard AA ships they should run out of planes in 10min. end of game for them

  • @chrishelt4389
    @chrishelt4389 Před rokem

    I haven't played in years, since not long after the carriers came into being (that actually had nothing to do with why I stopped), but back then the carriers spent a lot of time searching for and trying to kill each other, or at least trying to set fires on the flight decks so they can't launch planes. Now all I see are the carriers and subs all beating on the surface ships and leaving the enemy carriers free to do the same. Am I missing some mechanic that keeps carriers safe from each other?

  • @brianjohnston6667
    @brianjohnston6667 Před rokem +1

    In Soviet Russia, video game plays YOU

  • @Brosefskius
    @Brosefskius Před rokem +1

    my prediction for mid 2023 is matches with 2 cvs and the rest all subs in all matches

    • @meganoobbg3387
      @meganoobbg3387 Před rokem

      Wouldn't work - they're not allowed to fight each other. CV's are perfectly protected by both other CV's and submarines. Submarines are also invisible to carriers unless they try to attack them. WG has simply made it so, that a CV player, and submarine player are completely discouraged to engage one another. If that submarine didn't try to attack the carrier, instead picked to chase Flamu all game, he would've probly killed him.

  • @batrastardly4574
    @batrastardly4574 Před rokem +1

    I often rage at BB's in the back while our DD's and CA's/CL's get shredded. This vid gave me a reality check. CV's and Subs are the baseball bats in this game and all the other ships are XP filled pinatas.

  • @haraldhonk4650
    @haraldhonk4650 Před rokem

    Sub was last spotted 42 seconds before it was sunk. The final ASW was launched 10 s before him sinking, so 32 s after he was last spotted. Either the sub is an absolute potato who straightlined for a minute after going unspotted or CV ASW sees unspotted subs. Edit: Sub did a 180° turn while unspotted, he wasn't straightlining...

  • @rihkuazoyord7458
    @rihkuazoyord7458 Před rokem +1

    yep if you play big juicy bb piniata everything focuses on you and its so annoying and then the aiming bug kicks in and you cant do shit and have to wait 30sec for next chance

  • @old_guard2431
    @old_guard2431 Před rokem +2

    The crews of my Tier X ships are having a great time in port until the next actually enjoyable high tier thing (like Airship Escort) comes around. My Montana has a 100% win rate in Random Battles: the one Random Battle I played with it happened to be a win. (Win rate in Airship Escort was nowhere near that good, but I had a good time.)
    Mid-tiers = best tiers. You don’t hear as much about “seal clubbing” these days, too few new players and too many capable players down there.

  • @JohnDoe3.14
    @JohnDoe3.14 Před rokem

    Please post more matches like this. nice to see you mucking it in the dirt like us plebs

  • @benzol123456
    @benzol123456 Před rokem +5

    Wargaming are wondering why me and thousands of other players quit warships after playing a handful of games. This video is the perfect showcase.

  • @genericcitizen6684
    @genericcitizen6684 Před rokem +4

    As new games like Hogwarts start coming out this year watch the server numbers go down. Combined with the poor game direction WG is taking they are just asking for it.

  • @volknetai.3690
    @volknetai.3690 Před rokem +1

    Imagine playing des moines. Then it was a good ship that shred all CV planes, Denied all push with good position and firepower and removed DD with its radar. Now with subs and CV that negate your positional advantage including abundant of overmatch. She is literally unplayable at this point

  • @rodrigoserafim8834
    @rodrigoserafim8834 Před rokem +1

    Imagine designing a class that no one can target and not even another one of its own class can do anything to until 5-6 minutes into the game. That has more range on his damage than even the sniper class of the game.
    Imagine designing another class that can spot anything on the map at any time, has infinite range, without being spotted itself and that even its own class only get one single shot at it by design.
    Now design these two classes so that they cannot do anything to each other the entire game, until they are forced to in the very end. One cannot spot the other, and one cannot go near the other.
    Game design.

  • @jauger2319
    @jauger2319 Před rokem +1

    You can take solace in the fact whilst they hounded you the team was allowed to kill the rest congrats

  • @magnus_bd6185
    @magnus_bd6185 Před rokem +1

    The way this game seems to be going forward WG will for sure add Imperial Star Destroyers at some point !!!!

  • @snorkman2
    @snorkman2 Před rokem

    I held a flank alone in a Surrey against 2 CV's (T8/T6) and a sub (T8), full defence for 10 minutes.
    I survived with 100hp, while my remaining team in the nth got us a win on points.
    After the game I got 6 compliments from my team mates and 3 direct messages basically saying how stubborn I was and just wouldn't die, allowing the team to go un-harassed and being responsible for the win.
    I did manage to take down 42 planes, but my XP was still low, As trying to deal with and zone out a Sub doesn't have any XP benefits at all.

  • @spitfire2602
    @spitfire2602 Před rokem +1

    This year is the breaking point of Wows, enjoy your last games cause the fun leaves like Dasha. Time to mourn them.

  • @robertgarwood6292
    @robertgarwood6292 Před rokem

    if i see more than a single sub or carrier while playing a BB, I just charge in and do as much damage as I can till I'm dead. Standing back just means I die to planes or torps and do zip.

  • @gorazdnovsak3705
    @gorazdnovsak3705 Před rokem +1

    I had torps homing also after pressing R... It looks like there is a bug...

  • @dawfydd
    @dawfydd Před rokem

    you'd think WG could give a bonus based on how close to a cap you are, you'd get a exp modifier likewise if you are attacked by a sub or cv, you get a exp multiplier, could at least reward when you get super unlucky.
    I'd also discourage running away from objectives by having a exp modifier based on how long you spent so far away from the caps and a popup "you avoided cap circles all last game, do you know objective play is how your team wins matches" lol

  • @markwilson185
    @markwilson185 Před rokem +1

    so glad i left this game when i did Great seeing you tell the truth !

  • @berserker4940
    @berserker4940 Před rokem

    As a BB you can go AFK first two minutes in a sub/cv game and often noone has taken any significant damage

  • @SallinKari
    @SallinKari Před rokem

    When your best defense against subs is to lead it within 10 kilometers of a carrier...

  • @Gopher31
    @Gopher31 Před rokem

    Looks like fun and engaging counterplay to me.

  • @RS42174
    @RS42174 Před rokem +1

    If only you performed a simple maneuver.

  • @Rose.Of.Hizaki
    @Rose.Of.Hizaki Před rokem

    I cant help but think the vermont looks like the titanic but with artillery guns in the place of lifeboats.

  • @besiege8246
    @besiege8246 Před rokem

    I feel your pain. I don't get the joy out of a lot of games as many are subscription, play to win and run by animals from the marketing departments.

  • @deltawarshipdelta8565
    @deltawarshipdelta8565 Před rokem +1

    Why do I feel that since subs are such a success story that they will introduce Pan-Asian subs with “improved” homing torpedo damage, y’a know that kind of good stuff

  • @ImRandomDude
    @ImRandomDude Před rokem

    I just dropped playing randoms. Currently its only ranked, brawls (if not overly infected by subs and cvs), or operations.

  • @ottovonbismarck2443
    @ottovonbismarck2443 Před rokem +2

    See, this is what average players (WR above 50%) have to deal with every single match. It's usually two matches in and I'm already loosing my shit.

    • @mistercrankypants
      @mistercrankypants Před rokem +2

      Exactly- I play 2-3 games, get my second crate and then have that moment where I say to myself.. "hm another match or 2? Or, play some other game that doesn't make me hate life"

  • @GlorpusGlupus
    @GlorpusGlupus Před rokem

    Literally had a Malta sit back and fly bombers around without dropping bombs then complain because we didn’t accompany them across the map

  • @jure224
    @jure224 Před rokem +2

    I Play only Tier 4 to 7 For fun

  • @TruckingShooter
    @TruckingShooter Před rokem +2

    Spreadsheet says you had fun

  • @noob4life1981
    @noob4life1981 Před rokem

    The more I watch Wows vids, the more I feel inclined to put on a Benny Hill theme song in the background... thanks Weegee!!

  • @seanwu9955
    @seanwu9955 Před rokem +1

    Welcome to 2021? Been there and suffered from this and that's why I decided to quit 2 years ago

  • @seanelucero
    @seanelucero Před rokem

    I am not really understanding how asw strikes don't do any damage

  • @TheMadmatt7
    @TheMadmatt7 Před rokem

    Atlanta used to be my favorite ship. It was just goofy fun. Then the carrier rework hit and suddenly my baby was nerfed to nothing. Haven't played since.

  • @dubiousj
    @dubiousj Před rokem

    Spreadsheet says you're having fun!

  • @Bk2O7
    @Bk2O7 Před rokem +1

    With Airship Escort gone, all the German brawling ships are back in the closet and the CVs/subs are back on the field. 0 fun to be had here...