How GOOD Can a $45 Fishing Reel Possibly Be? (Okuma No Clickbait Field Test)
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- čas přidán 27. 11. 2018
- Yeah man. Let's get a little silly. Took some advice from: czcams.com/users/results?searc... and gave it a go. The weather today sucked but I spooled it with 15lb braid and put it through the ringer. Game on.
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Day 1. It survived and exceeded expectations. What will day 2 do? Here's the reel we used: amzn.to/2DQeA8J
Elias's first ever "fancy" plastic framed reel.................."feels like chinesium" That's exactly what every single person said when ci4 and Zaion came out.......................fast forward a decade...........it's amazium :) welcome to the club brotha! That's a rock solid frame in that thing ain't it. Much less stem flex than the fuego LT
@@TackleAdvisors I agree my dear advisor. 30 years ago Okuma came to the market with a lot of innovative designs, I had many of them. Those days the down side was the gear material Taiwanessium (Chinessium was under development, ha ,há!) it wears out fast. The worst part I remember was the pick up bushing (bail bushing) made probably of "crappodium" when stops to roll it gets a thin groove, cutting the fishing line without a chance to find a replacement of that bushing...However innovative reels.
By the way, the choice of their building materials are based on the target market, higher end price, better materials. My experience was in the South American market those days, one of the cheapest. Hopefully they may invest wiser in US market materials.
Innovations from this guys around 80's ? The first lever drag deep fishing/heavy trolling reel and the "multi head" : a spinning reel with one body and three removable "heads" size 1000/2000/300 (pignon, bail, pick up, bobbin altogether) exchangeable just pressing a lever, very very clever design but crappy materials.
After going thru the circle of life, today I choose a cheap Shimano above others.
Greetings, Fred.
*As you see, I can give a serious opinion...time to time. LOL!!!!*
Okumas last forever man. I’ve had the same Coronado 65 for the past 7 years. Dropped in sand, beaten up by saltwater , countless 20+ lb stripers. Still works like a champ
Team okuma! I have the newest version of the Coronado CDX 80 and that thing is a beautiful looking durable tank! Also use a okuma convector cv45d and I love the hell out of it! I guess to some people if it don’t cost hundreds or thousands then it don’t last.
My 1 year old Coronado is performing terriblly. I fish inshore from behind a seawall and railings, so no sand, no splashes, just the regular stuff from the line. It's now making noise, a lot of resistence, and worst of all, not wounding the line evenly. The wounded reel looks like a upside down cone with line stacked mostly at the top. I'm guessing gunk built up at the lower part of the main shaft, but could it be something else. I guess i could disassemble, clean and grease it, but I am really not looking forward to it as a video i watched on the Coronado suggests the job is more difficult than expected. Also, every other reel I have, including a cheaper ABF have lasted twice as long on the exact same usage. It's a shame that this thing is so bad after only a year.
El problema del bobinado del hilo es que perdiste una arandela de las que están debajo de la bobina por eso la bobina está un poco más abajo de lo normal, solo eso. Es muy fácil de resolver, suerte
I appreciate the fishing videos on these chilly days 42' in NC! In my opinion Okuma fishing reels are very good very smooth, no problems.
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If the reel was “junk”, that first fish would have trashed it.
The drag seemed to work well for now.
Truly trial by fire
Great vid and I totally agree, there's no need to buy really expensive reels for yak fishing. Okuma and Penn reels are virtually indestructible and the best for yak fishing I've found. I've had an Okuma epix for 15yrs and I can't kill it, any time somethings getting worn out on it I contact Okuma and they send the part out for free because they carry a lifetime warranty. Recently started using Penn slammerIII's as well and I cant fault them. Been using one for 2 yrs on the yak and haven't even serviced it yet, still going strong.
Nice red! I bought a Walmart special rod and reel for $58 and all I did was change the line and it's lasted me all summer still going. Caught hundreds of speckles . Going to change the line again and see if I can get rock season out of it. Nice video thank you
Very cool video! I like the Epixor XT a lot. Very smooth. Hopefully you get some good time out of that reel.
You solidified my choice on fish 1! Plan on pairing this with a Piscifun Torrent rod... so excited!
own an Okuma Trio spinning reel, 6 years later and its still working
Awsome vid and great idea was thinking of taking his advice. I fish fresh 99 percent so may be a good one for me. Thanks for the video. Keep em comin bro.
Tackle advisors led me here. Subbed. Good shit.
I love your weather app idea
The name of your future weather app. Priceless. Gave me a good laugh.
That release was something i am going to do from now on. Great video.
Nice fish! Good video Elias!
I'm glad to see you giving this one a try. I have been using the Epixor in saltwater for years with no problems. I don't beat them up like you do, but then, who does? ; ) I will be keeping an eye on this ongoing test.
still fishing 2 kast king sharky 2s on your recommendation 3 years later caught 20lbs cod I had to release Gulf of Maine, haddock and 42" stripers on both in NE its all about maintenance use rinse repeat
He takes out a new reel to test out and what happens, he catches a huge red drum
Another cool vid. Great job. Thanks for the entertainment
Watch all your videos great catches man.
I had it for almost 10 years. Loved it. The transmission gear just went after almost ten years!! Great reel
That first Red was a biggy! All I could think about was how would the "smaller" main gear hold up to fish that size?? Time will tell I suppose! Thanks for the super content by the way!
Not the least bit silly. Looking forward to further episodes. The next step up, the Inspira 40, is designed for inshore Salt water and only $20 or so more. ( YMMV )
Hell yeah man keep it up brother
$29 rod/reel loaded with 10 lb. mono - been using for a year. Other than a few tangles at the start, it has performed excellent. End cap deal at Walmart.
I just got the epxior 55 great reel very small but has good cranking power for a small reel
Question how is it holding up or is it dead already?
Always enjoy your videos! Good stuff Elias! I hate expensive gear myself for the same reasons! I use KastKing stuff and get it cheap and discounted a lot. Lasts me long time. I will NEVER buy an expensive rod and reel ever again! I out fish a lot of my friends that are broke buying all that expensive gear! LOL
I have a few okuma spinning reels and I really like the inspira and helios. The helios is around 100 but it is very competitive with a Shimano ci4 stradic. The inspira are on sale for around 50 often on Amerzon and if you don't need saltwater protection they are very smooth and lightweight. I just upgraded the drag washers to carbontex $10 on the fleabay and I'm sure the same ones would work for the epixor.
I have a okuma avenger 6500. I have worked that real again and again. Big stingrays and sharks. Has yet to fail me yet. Had it for 3 years. For 40 bucks cant go wrong.
As far as work horses go okuma is a good company with budget reels and really expensive ones too. I’ve had the aveon 100 for about 5 years now and I’ve caught many many fish in salt and fresh water. It has some small issues but for a $25 reel that’s 5 years old and taking the abuse I’ve given it, I am impressed and try to buy okuma whenever I can
I love my Okuma (Coronado 65)! I’ve had it for over ten years and is still in great shape. I have only changed the bearings once so far.
My 1 year old Coronado is performing terriblly. I fish inshore from behind a seawall and railings, so no sand, no splashes, just the regular stuff from the line. It's now making noise, a lot of resistence, and worst of all, not wounding the line evenly. The wounded reel looks like a upside down cone with line stacked mostly at the top. I'm guessing gunk built up at the lower part of the main shaft, but could it be something else. I guess i could disassemble, clean and grease it, but I am really not looking forward to it as a video i watched on the Coronado suggests the job is more difficult than expected. Also, every other reel I have, including a cheaper ABF have lasted twice as long on the exact same usage. It's a shame that this thing is so bad after only a year.
@@redstwok1123 Damn, that’s unfortunate. Maybe it was a defective reel? Mine hasn’t had any of those problems. Maybe I just got lucky. Maintenance was just like all my other reels, just have to remember how to reassemble it lol Hope you are able to figure it out. Best of luck!
First sign of winds coming your way is often mare tails, especialy on a clear day like you had there Elias. Weather forecasts are really good, but being able to see the signs so you can think for yourself and get outta there before you get caught out should be something (even if only in a leaflet and link to a few videos type of fomat) that's compulsarily handed out with every watercraft sold. Maybe the subject for a future video?!?!?!?
Great video, thanks Elias, and am looking forward to see how well that Okuma holds up as I have had them recommended to me often over the last few years but having had to pay for and then repeatedly replace cheap reels in the past - without the reel even knowing what a kayak is, let alone taking the abuse of being partnered with one! - I have politely taken peoples advice and then bought something else. Thanks again man!
Edit: PS, my only gripe on seeing you with that reel today would be to say to put the cost up a couple of dollars and put a handle on the reel that a person can really get hold of if they're lucky enough to hook into something substantial. Your thoughts on trying to keep up with a big fish on a reel with a tiny knob to hold butween finger thumb??
MrTatts64 i didn’t think the handle was too bad honestly. The weight feels a bit unbalanced but it wasn’t THAT off
Wow u had a good day thanks 4 sharing
Hey nice job,tell how is this reel now after more fishing days?
Nice video Are the reels still in use? I am looking at the avenger bait feeder now. Is that a outback what year, looks like a compass. Thank you
Hi, what happend to the kayak breach did you fix it ??
I use cheap reels all the time. I can usually buy several reels for the price of one expensive one. If I bust a cheaper one I just grab another one also when one is dead I can use the spare parts. Having more expensive gear does not make a better fisherman. The better fisherman is the one who can land the fish with a broken reel. Having said that I would not buy the cheapest reels on the markets like a $5 one :)
Seems like you work your reels pretty hard, I know you talked about not wanting to break the bank but what are your thoughts on van staals? The new VR50 seems like a perfect dunkproof kayak reel if you can manage not to pitch it overboard.
need more videos like this
Do you always rinse reels used in salt conditions with fresh water after?
you work the drag and the pole really well. that was a big ass fish, bigger than any fish i ever caught. it was cool to see you let him go.
what kind of line and rod were you using?
I'd love to know what happened with the Tsunami's. I'm fishing a 5000 Shield. Did you post anywhere what went down?
Im using okuma revenger rv30....can it use for fishing in saltwater
You sure have dialed in the fishing in your new location in a very short time. What knot do you use for the braid to swivel?
I’m on my 2nd okuma avenger, about $45, the first one was 3 years old when some low life stole my gear, and it performed as good as the day I bought it, the newer version is even better!! I fish nothing but saltwater, they make some great reals. It amazes me when some have to have the $300+ reels.. oh well.. good vid I think you’ll like the okuma.. w
One of my most dependable and durable reel I have is a Penn fierce 2500. I think I got it for about 45-50 4 years ago. I've also heard those Creed reels the weird lime green ones a Dicks are good for the money never tried them though. I have a cheaper Okuma reel and I've never had any problems with it either.
The biggest freshwater fish I ever caught was on an ultralight Okuma panfish reel that came with a pack rod for forty bucks overall.
Any suggestions for a conventional reel for tautog?
Hi there Elias. How does the reel been holding up with the saltwater?
Great video and a decent real, but IMO the Penn Pursuit III has it beat in initial quality and specifications. It's still early to know the overall longevity of the Pursuit III, but it is certainly a game changer in the low priced offerings. My 0.02
that reel is handling the job real good
I enjoy your vids, Would like to see a recap of this reel.
For the past two years I've been using a cheapo Daiwa Sweepfire 3500 an average of 3 or 4 times a week every week between April and December. I keep telling myself I'll buy a more expensive reel as soon as this one quits. I thought for sure I'd have a new reel by now, but it just keeps working and hasn't had any issues, despite being dropped many times, submerged in saltwater, covered in sand, etc., etc. Though I haven't caught any bull reds with it... yet.
Try nifty Daiwa 120XA as inexpensive backup reel. Spool 17lb. mono. Strange and oddball but works.
I had an epixor years ago. It lasted for many years. Just gotta rinse it off
Hey EliasVFishing I want to know have you ever used a COASTAL TUFF ROUND BAITCAST REEL :-) ?
Whats is that size rell?
Are you still using this reel? Thank you
I’m curious, whappened to the fuego? I have a 2500 one that just recently started to make grinding gears noises but still works. Same case as the legalis lt.
Salt intrusion.
here's his exact reel inside and out you an see the salt and pitting czcams.com/video/AmPgjzBygys/video.html
did I catch a hint of AvE?
Nice. . I would consider this real I also been having big success with kastking Sharky 2 and Sharky 3 which is just slightly more expensive than your Akuma
I'm here for the all the hot chicks!
You sir get a like for this comment
Aren’t we all
Eliasizzle Offshore.
I'm here to read the notes and interviews mainly....and tackle advisors voice doesn't appear here. LOL!!!
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Do you think this reel would hold up Salmon fishing in NY?
Okuma Ceymars and Inspiras for me in the yak. They have outlasted every (more expensive) Shimano and Daiwa I have owned.
You took think the Penn Battle 2 rod reel combo or a Penn Fierce 2 would stand up to these trials and let me know it in the description if you've already tested these to thank you
And how did it go? Still survived till this day?
WHAT KINDA ROD YOU USING THERE?
I am surprised you have not tried the Okuma's before Elias. In my opinion, they are hands down the BEST VALUE bar none! I have 3 old school EFb's that were an all metal frame and gears. Prob 3-4 of the a series that were a composite frame w the same gearing. Prob have 6-8 Avengers which are a $35-40 reel w 7 ball bearings and some other misc models. I salt water fish in SW Fl out of a yak also. That's a dunk and splash just about every trip out. They are easy to take apart and parts can be bought from Tuna's reels parts cheap. The "new" Epix is now a $58 reel, iv not tried the new model yet. Seriously I am getting a solid 2-3 yrs maint free w a rinse. In comparison to Penn, it's no comparison. I had a new Clash w the super " CNC Gear Technology". The gear was grinding. $52 + shipping for the main gear. Can you say FREAK THAT ! I sold the damn thing and bought another Okuma. I like Dawia and Shimano but there over engineered and parts are hard to get. I have well over 40 reels and am a fisherman. That 1st fish was a tank ! I thought the rod was going to snap. I have been trying the Tica reels now. Built very much like Okuma w terrible marketing but there available on Amazon and are easy to service as well. All that being said, stick w the lower gear ratios . The few bad reviews I have seen were gear issues on high speed models but I have not experienced any of those issues .Big $ reels are a waste, buy cheap and rebuild or throw away. Also like Fin Nor but they were bought out by United Outdoors and discontinued. I am nor buying Abu or Penn or Pflueger. Keep up the good stuff Eli.
You should do a segment where we send you homemade lures and you have to try and catch a fish with them
How is it holding up ?
you should review the Marathon Guardian Reel - its a Dick's Sporting Goods issue reel for $35. They have a small line of cheap rods and reels that are pretty decent for the price.
I got Penn Pursuit 3s 2500 size for 27 dollars each on Amazon on Black Friday. Still proud of that deal.
Same price at Walmart. (size 4000, little bigger)
www.walmart.com/ip/Penn-Pursuit-II-Spinning-Fishing-Reel/37310038?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227025106971&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=43031584592&wl4=pla-81580320632&wl5=9021717&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=37310038&wl13=&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAiAlvnfBRA1EiwAVOEgfDAUlPE6lEBX7pP_h_MM2HIB0HGjDb1EDrOVTOeLVd0Oq4EnR1wighoCMKQQAvD_BwE
In my country Penn actually expensive fishing gear
Damn great video bro! That reel seems like the best value reel for the cash. What rod are you using with the Okuma reel?
He shows it in the vid.....
It’s on sale for $36 at Amazon now.
Best cheap real i bought was a $20 quantum optix 40 spinner. Had it for 2 years now and still working like new. Never babied, surf fishing it. And honestly way better than my sharky 2 reel from kast king (lasted less than a season) that cost 4× the price and both reels used primarily for tog
Quantum is a good brand, confirmed !
Dang, I 'm poor lol. Most I've ever spent on a reel was 50-I still use it. most expensive combo is less than $170. But I am casual I suppose. Thanks for posting these videos man!
Fish doesnt discriminate what gear you use if you know what you are doing plus if your gear does everything you expect it to do. Then it should be fine if its not expensive since by the end of the day what matters is you are enjoying fishing and best of all, catching fish.
I myself have used cheap gear for a $25 combo from Walmart and now to $250 setup. The only thing is that i can say tho is sometimes the more you spend on your fishing gear, the better the construction is.
By the end of the day you spend your money where you feel it matters.
I like my Shakespeare bait runner..5 yrs in ..only the knob is wearing loose
Can I but a baitcaster reel on this fishing🎣 fishing rod
Cheap reel sure can handle big fish.. for $50 they can handle 6-7kg fish no prob but soon after couple of fish with that size, gearing start to feel sandy a little bit. I have Cando 2500 (TICA sub company), its gear feel a little sandy after landing 2 stigray weight about 4-5kilos each. Been 10 years, its still smooth like butter. Really impressive for 3+1BB conventional.
Do you open your reels up clean them out and regrease them?
Depends, some reels are very difficult to work on. I didn't open Tsunami Shields nor Daiwa Fuego LTs ever. I work on conventional reels no problem
I open all my spinning reels at the end of the season. I bought some penn blue grease and diawa oil. They work like new when I’m done. Takes 30 min. Give it a shot. You could do a video on reel maintenance
Enjoyed the video, as always. I’ve been a sub for a while and this is the first time I’ve noticed you including any “after care” for your reels. I’d be interested in seeing a short video on how you care for your rods & reels after each fishing trip. It seems no matter who I ask, I get a different opinion on equipment care after a salt water trip (kayak).
Typically they get a rinse in the bathroom sink. Conventionals I have zero issue working on. I have two Daiwa Saltists running on 7 and 5 years old respectively. Pre-levelwind ones. Spinners I'll hit weak points with corrosion X like the line roller bearing. Stuff with crazy seals I don't mess with.
@@EliasVFishing Do you usually tighten down the drag before rinsing? It appeared that you checked the tightness of the Right side handle cap.
@@woodystemms3799 I typically loosen up the drag before storage...the handle I believe was a little loose.
@@EliasVFishing Loosening before storage is old habit ... but tightening before a rinse, which makes so much sense, had eluded our brain for decades.
All that dinner!!!!
Usually you get what you pay for. I had a Okuma spinning reel that really didn't cost that much, it was one of my better reels for a long time... until I accidentally broke it.
i have 4 Okuma avengyrs i love them so much Okuma is Japanese btw also have several celilo rods in ultralight and a guideselect pro in UL
Okuma Taiwan based company bro not Japanese.
@@rachid.53 you’re right, thanks bro
Try out the Daiwa Revros LT $50 its a beast for the price 22 lb of drag great for those bullreds and big uglys
The exceler he referenced earlier in the vid was a reel I sent him. WHich is very similar to the Fuego lt minus seals that held up for half a season of abuse...Great reels for the coin. Better gearing than the okuma but not as rigid at the reel stem
I thought you lived in NY?
Its FAR more important to buy quality oil and grease and learn how to properly service a reel than to buy an expensive reel.
Okuma has been around for a long time in the asian market.
I bought one because tackle advisors said so.
That's not a bad way to shop lol. He looks at reels all day and gets all sorts of solicitations. As do I to a degree, and the sub $100 reel category is a tough one to shop for. But we will monitor it closely. Day 1 - it was awesome. As good as the new Tsunami Shields were out the box.
Is it still alive? The Epixor.
My Mitchall 300 I bought in 1967 for $21.00 is still going strong and it has had the hell beat out of it( this reel l in NOS condition can sell for over $1000)
Really?? I have a bunch of them....what is nos condition?
Lesson learned here is times have changed and the market is too competitive now a days which is good for us
I got a okuma surf rod pretty decent
That's why they are in Pure Fishing family now
you should fish the Penn pursuit 3 its by far the best reel for the money I pick two 4000 up on j and h the other day 49dollars for a 4000
I just got 2 2500s on amazon for 27 bucks a piece!!
You have say something as to how good of fishing reels made in France
Hey you bugging buddy that's a decent company Okuma believe it or not even Savage gear they got some crazy-ass equipment
toeeee-tog
I have an older model epixor bait runner 8500 size, and i have put the thing through its paces for almost 10 years, even landed 9.5 foot sturgeon on it . It was 145 bucks brand new though i cant speak for the quality of the newer and smaller models.
I have the stratus VI 65 and 55 from dicks. Both workhorses and are hidden gems.