I am a conservative and I care a lot of the environment. I love nature. I believe a balance can be achieved between development and natural preservation. On the second issue about the traditional family structure. I don't have any illusion that it will go back to the old days specially in the West. But I know that the breakdown of the family has resulted in a lot of the problems in our society today.
Exactly. I believe you speak for the great majority of conservatives. The left has absolutely no clue what conservatives really believe. They just parrot what the media tells them. This is the greatest culture war ever. It takes zero brain power To be a part of the political left today. All you have to do is agree with whatever the TV is telling you. To be on the political right today requires someone to actually think and do real research to find out the truth, because hardly anyone is saying it. It’s the same thing with liking Trump. Disliking Trump is extremely easy. Everywhere you look people are destroying him. In order to like the guy you have to sift through all that BS and dig deep to find the truth.
It's interesting that family structure can predict a cultures inclination towards certain ideologies. I wonder if the nuclear family structure is unstable somehow, and causes half the population to divorce, which is why half the population disagrees with the other half in the USA. I dunno something to think about.
But you can go back. It’s called repentance. Stop right there in your tracks. Acknowledge this direction is the wrong way. Turn around. And go the right way. One man married to one woman and then having sex and kids is the only right way. Period. I’m a big fan of Bret since he was done dirty at Evergreen. But he argues morality without acknowledging God. That’s his and everyone else’s problem. No Jesus, no peace. Know Jesus, know peace. This talk that we can’t go back is the irrational reasoning an alcoholic does to justify holding onto the bottle. It feels good, but it’s destructive. And it blinds you to the fact that being married to the mother of your children feels even better.
The government also encourages and incentivizes single motherhood. Maybe if we rewarded families that stay together we would have a stronger moral fabric in this country. Instead, we have overcrowded prisons where over 90% of the inmates come from a single mother home..... It's time to incentivize fatherhood.
They will really only incentivize trans birthsczcams.com/video/dlaNfhW3Ims/video.html from implnated uteruses. Liberalism really IS about pushing the envelope, Focault was right.
@@kdm28 I think we have tried that, and it's failed. Maybe we could reward the family unit? I just don't see anything good coming from rewarding mothers for having a child. That has torn our country apart in my opinion.
So what you are saying is that US has to degrade to the point Afganistan did in 2021 in order to go back to what it used to be? I mean, your entitled to your opinions, but...
Indeed! Progressive is also code for regressive I have learned here in Raw Olympia. We gave them the city when they said they knew better over at Evergreen. Now everyone is living in a tent! A blue plastic progressive tent town! Look at San Francisco, look at the wisdom of the feces from liberalism!
I love conversations like this. Two opposite sides coming together and exchanging ideas without being at each other’s throats or trying to be some provocateur or being edgy. Just a straight up conversation and mutual respect whether agree or disagree.
@@nyChannel09 They aren't really at each other's throats but they're definitely coming from different realms. To the evolutionist it's almost a foregone conclusion that predators breeding will create more predators. To the scientist it's totally unimportant what Greta did at whatever time because that's just an anecdote from one person and we don't even know what that person represents so instead we need to look at the data to make an informed decision. But PBD is a business guy and a people person, he doesn't trust the data or the science that much but he sees deceit coming from the climate change movement and he doesn't think that a predator reproducing automatically creates another predator because the same genetic traits that could lead to raip in the father (fearlessness, assertiveness, passion, self-interest) could lead to being a protective father AGAINST raip in the son.
“When I disagree with a person, I can’t navigate my emotional response, so I resort to name-calling as a way to reduce complex perspectives from others that I don’t fully understand” -Too many of us
On both sides. Absolutely. Sick of all this stuff boiling down to right vs left and that being the end of discussion. Your evil because your not on the same side as me....pathetic
Brett's a thorough thinker- good move brining him on. Darkhorse (he and Heather) continues to provide a quality program. Agree with them, or disagree, it is thought-provoking and they're not sloppy with their thoughts/words.
Bret's a marvelous critic of the state, but at the same time, has spent his whole life arguing for government intervention. So now even HE can see the problems with state intervention, but he's only criticizing bad actors in power, instead of questioning his support of policies that put those guys into positions of WAY too much power. He's still a big-government liberal, even though the last 10 years or so of his life he's been a VICTIM of the fruits of that belief of his.
This is why I can't take Pat seriously.... he's obviously business SAVVY, but he's just not that intelligent. I think there was a good 3 to 4 minutes Brett was speaking and Pat was completely lost. Dude started out by emphasizing the environmental crisis IRRESPECTIVE of climate change and the first thing Pat says is "So you think the first thing conservatives have wrong is climate change..." 🤦♂️🤡🤡🤡
I like how he says Republicans instantly dismiss climate change and it doesn't matter regardless as there's still an environmental crisis we're in.. and instantly shows an interview of Gretta Thundburg to throw doubt on climate change.
Showing that clip had me baffled. I wondered whether he understood Brett's response at all. He never addressed his main point (the environmental problems that have nothing to do with climate change).
Yuck. He said Conservatives not Republicans. Republicans are a political party. The Conservatives who are in the party need not be there, except that it’s the primary Conservative Party. It’s history and the gremlins hiding in it’s basement need not be overly embraced merely because it’s the best place to find other Conservatives for now. And that would be confusing Republicans with Conservatives.
One thing I never understood with politics in the west, is why do so many politicians get caught with corruption and conflicts of interest and don't have any accountability? They get caught and don't go to prison and that's why so many continue with their corruption because there is no severe punishment for betraying a country's citizens. If they got put in jail and fined massively, a lot of politicians would be fearful, just like criminals do when crime and punishment is severe for their horrible actions.
We've reached a tipping point in America where there are enough people within the corrective mechanisms that are tainted by an interconnected web of corruption that they cannot afford to support any level of accountability.
@@yagballs676 the thing with this clip is that poland and russia have normal families regardless of pill....its usa media and schools that cause ruin..........
@@yagballs676 And yet they aren't. Because the same problem exists whether they are in office or not. They have dirt on powerful people within the justice system. And they do not have any kind of legal immunity.
@@aomorgancool1775 Ron DeSantis' record on everglades restoration and preservation is the most robust in Florida's history. Not to mention his record on overall water conservation in the state. His first day in office in 2018 he forced the resignation of an entire board in South Florida that had overseen the sugarcane factory leaks into the everglades and indirectly the atlantic ocean. Then allocated millions towards water restoration projects in the area. The information is right in front of you if you want to see it. The whole "conservative" "liberal" narrative is all smoke and mirrors.
PBD is a breath of fresh air - i really like the way he breaks down his interviews and tries to get to the real issues. Also It is obvious that Weinstein is struggling to rid himself of his own creative caricature of conservatives.
@@jasonolinger7585 did you write your comment twice? Its almost as though when your interacting on a tiny screen you accidently press buttons or such... And the time it takes to find that out? Id have to google how to find that out first, then have to find that out... Amd the fact yhat this is the comment you decided to find that out about? You know the comment woth the word neyonce in it? Of all the comments to research, you chose this one? Ok.
@@TheRealTurkFebruary I think we all have a little bit of Redditor in us. The comment was like a half joke. My point was just that he wasn't really answering anything and repeating circular arguments. I can pretty confidently defend most of my points even if most of the ppl here disagree with them so I like to think I'm a tiny bit better than a Redditor 😌
I'm an Evangalical Conservative and I listen to Weinstein precisely because we disagree on a few points. Weinstein challenges folks like me in a respectful and intellectually honest manner.
We should try to return to ideas and behaviors that are desirable to what we do now. It may be difficult, but we should find a way. Don't surrender to the nihilism of the present and future.
There's also a very real yearning for tradition and values that have been squandered or lost. It's time to (once again) be an exemplar in those tenets.
@@CleverGirlAAH "Traditional Values" considered women to be breeding-chattel, blacks were property to be bought-n-sold, and homosexuals were criminals to be prosecuted and incarcerated/killed by the State. Are these the "glory days" you speak of?
Brett's point about rapists reproducing totally went above PBD's head, and apparently almost everyone else's in the comment section. This is what happens when you don't listen to your guests.
Totally agree with you. Brett is speaking from a evolutionary perspective, everyone seems to miss the point. If a man is no longer required to prove his worth and he can simply r*pe a woman to carry on his gene, he will do just that, regardless of the consequence.
@Hao Ng ya I wanted Brett to dig more into that. He's probably one of a handful of people with enough experience to speak on the matter. I feel like PBD was too focused on the politics and legal aspects of it. Maybe he interviewed too many political figures that he forgot Brett's insights should be more focused on evolutionary biology and not legal or political aspects. Hopefully Brett gets another chance maybe on joe rogan to go in depth on the subject
If you go back in history before the 1800s women did participate in business in many capacities. Women have been leaders in textile business since ancient Egypt. It’s the Victorian period where people get stuck because women were confined to being domestic wives for that time. Not all history was like that. Women could be wives as well as business people.
Queen Isabella, Elizabeth I, Cleopatra…..the most powerful piece in Chess is a female figure. The West has had women leaders since Christianized Roman times….
I can’t vote for anyone who doesn’t fervently defend my right to protect myself and my family. I can deal with a lot of disagreements and still vote for a candidate, but not when they are going to let that right be stripped from me.
Bret: “Even if climate change were complete fiction, we have a serious problem with environmental sustainability.” Pat: “So, your problem with conservatives is that climate change is not their top priority.” Bret: “Nooo. Again, even if climate change is completely fictional, we have a serious environmental sustainability problem.” Pat: “Yeah, but did you see that clip of Greta Thunberg?” 🤦♂️
Because he is not unbiased. He wants to promote his own narratives. As much as people criticize Joe Rogan, he’s popular because most of the time he lets his guests push their own narratives
Im 44 and the fact that he is older than me and still believes in "climate change" or whatever you wanna call it this decade is just sad. Ive been told since I was I child in the 80's that we'd be under water by now yet all those politicians and celebrities that told me such all live in beachfront estates.
well, climate change is indeed bullshit. not even Elon Musk probably believes in the nonsense. in fact his SpaceX rockets emit more CO² than a 1 million gas cars in a year. and not to speak about the fact EV cars produce CO² during manufacturing and transportation of materials across the world with cargo ships that use oil/gas. it's so hypocritical, a complete lie yet stupid people buy into it. sooner or later, people will probably get arrested if they start a BBQ grill using wood. climate change police sounds like a conspiracy theory but leftist lunatics are capable of even that sort of thing.
He didn't say he believes in climate change that corporations and politicians are pushing, but that environmental sustainability, the way we poison our oceans and lands to make way for profit is doing damage to the planet.
42 here and Yep I remember late 80s it wasn't global warming. It was going to be global cooling that was going to kill us all we weren't gonna be able to grow enough food to feed everybody. Hey wait that Cooley never happened now did it that's the problem with the climate change debate? No catastrophe has ever happened to due to the climate change part and nothing they've ever said has happened as they have said it does the climate change yes I believe it does but I don't believe we have anything to do with it.
Im not sure thats what he said. He said there is some reality and some fiction to climate change, but also said we are harming the earth. I can agree with that. Climate change isn't a problem, but pollution most definitely is. Microplastics, man made chemicals, can cause deleterious effects for years to come, and we dont really understand the repurcussions of it. Climate change is a false god, and there is zero need for alarmists to be harping on about it.....other than money and control. I do believe there is climate change, as all through history there is plenty of evidence of it. As well, current records show variability in climate, but its hard to predict a forward path based on 100 years of recorded data. As for man made climate change? I doubt we play much of a role in "global warming" with co2 emmissions as anyone would have you believe. Not to put words in Bret's mouth, but I'm pretty sure hes thinking along the same lines as I do. For pollution, we need to be better stewards of the earth. For climate change, we simply need to adapt as time goes by.
Patrick, please PLEASE continue this discussion with Bret! Get him back on, but encourage him to be more specific, as you tried to do during this telecast. I don't feel he made a compelling case for why he has a beef with conservatives in this short period of time. When Bret says we can't go back, I'm sure in some ways we can't, but there are very significant ways we can at least TRY to go back: honesty, integrity, goodness, justice, decency, hard work and honor are a few.
I like this discussion but per usual no real solutions were offered and we can't go back but what apply the values you mentioned to today's society. Like he said for example the family unit of yesterday is done but any family unit could use those values, they aren't mutually left or right. He identified that too many conservatives want past systems and structures which don't apply to today, that doesn't mean the values aren't applicable to whichever side of the aisle you lie
@@RobJarrell63 the problem is that bret forgets the whole world is not usa...poland, russia etc have normal families....its usa media and schools which ruin
@@RobJarrell63 one its not cheap in poland or russia...two...both of those in reality are western countries....the real east is india, china etc.........the reality is that american women are not only fatter but also have worse morals....
Love the way Pat grilled him on a bunch of non-answers. Weinstein floundering made a better argument for conservatism than against it. Abortion is a fail-safe for womens’ bad reproductive choices, and that’s the realest point of contention on the issue. It’s being used a birth control and that’s only okay with me if men get to have a say in whether or not they want to participate in raising said child. If she can choose to kill my baby cuz she changed her mind, I should be able to choose not to participate financially if she chooses to have it. Nobody can force her to go forward giving birth-okay, that’s fine-nobody can force him to go forth in parental responsibility. Essentially there needs to be some sort of rules and regulations about what makes abortion acceptable. That’s the only way to create a system that values man and woman equally, cuz apparently equality is sooo important to women (except, it’s only important when policy favors them). Matriarchal ideology is such a farce
Really? It is? People are refusing to understand what’s going on In the ‘dating’ age world. It’s becoming exponentially harder for most men to find women on an equal playing field. What’s the ratio going to look like in 5 years. 90% of women are being sought after by just 10% of men? Tell me the primal triggers aren’t going to be pulled on the other 90% of men?! We’re staring at a time bomb that’s just about timed out…
Brett is maybe my most favorite person to listen to talk through an issue. Sometimes he loses me because I can't follow all of his points, but he's just so thorough and logical. I am a conservative-leaning libertarian, but I'd rather listen to him than just about anybody.
Bret does not understand birth control is merely a tool. Keeping her legs closed is a moral and self respect issue. Women are told a lie that casual sex is freedom. As for environmental issues, it is the use of it to push for catastrophic policies like in California's ban of natural gas in homes, ban new gas car sales and stonewalling home construction.
Women enjoy sex too that is not a lie. And I personally hate the sex shaming of women with abortion. It’s always women need to keep their legs closed never the men need to keep it in their pants or strap up. Most of the time unprotected sex & abortions are caused by men pressuring women but no one wants to talk about that.
@@shaymalchione809 i think it's not about whose to blame here It takes two to tango, but given a chance men will fu*k everything with a hole, i mean EVERYTHING. Their lust are mind blowing woman on the other hand have better control on this regard, generally speaking. Who can decide which one can enter or not, in some sense it is a form of birth control Abortion in the other hand should not be treated as a birth control but as a last resort. Because other birth control exist, and much safer. hell if you want to do it raw anyway there are some birth control that accommodate it
But why doesn’t society invest in avoiding having an unwanted child prior to sex, rather create a “safety net” to get rid of the child after the fact that sex has been done.
Brett is correct when he says the pandemic gave us “a peak” of how governance actually works. I would go further and say it gave the world the best look behind the curtain of Empire. Both political parties in the USA are no longer viable, the tendrils of empire extend beyond them though. Just look at what happened to Canada in a matter of less than 3 years. Does the World have the Will for the radical change that is needed before it’s too late?
Bret: “Even if climate change were complete fiction, we have a serious problem with environmental sustainability.” Pat: “So, your problem with conservatives is that climate change is not their top priority.” Bret: “Nooo. Again, even if climate change is completely fictional, we have a serious environmental sustainability problem.” Pat: “Yeah, but did you see that clip of Greta Thunberg?” 🤦♂️
@@CrazyLinguiniLegs LOL, yes exactly. Bret concedes the point; that there's a campaign of misinformation going on. So let's beat that horse some more with the Greta thing. The problem seems to be an inability to dig down into, 'why is it unsustainable?'.
And here is where Liberals lose me: Energy independence and the move toward renewable energy doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. Until we lay out a plan to show all American's HOW we are going to generate, store and distribute the electricity we need to 'go green', we must continue to push toward independence. Also, everyone needs full understanding on the day to day items that petroleum products are involved in. I fully believe that about 1% of people get it. And when America does both, we will be able to export the heck out of our resources to those in need, as well as sell them the tech we have developed on renewables. The sad thing is in in order to produce the amount of electricity we 'need' in this country if we were to abandon coal and natural gas, we need to invest in nuclear power...and who is clamoring for that?
This guest speaks in circular arguments. He doesn’t want to give an answer but clearly the other guy is not right? Talking like your sophisticated is not indicative of sophisticated thought.
Brett wants to be able to claim he’s a Liberal/Progressive so bad that he is totally mischaracterizing Conservatives. 1. On environmentalism, most homesteaders and farmers who live off of the land are middle America conservatives. 2. On traditional family values, he’s WAY overthinking this one. A kid without 2 parents is less likely to thrive, that’s obvious, everything else is secondary.
I'm a big fan of Brett, but I don't know what he was getting at with his "second reason". He said something like "Conservatives want to go back to traditional family values, and we just can't"... explain? And what does that have to do with abortions, I didn't expect that to have anything to do with abortions. I thought that had to do with women in the workplace, driving up the price of every single asset and making it a requirement for two people to work, and going backwards would mean immense economic damage, at least temporarily. I also don't think it requires two people to raise a child, like he said, it never did. If a mom is stay at home, she will have the time and resources (provided by the man) to take care of the child, and the man will be there after work to help as well. I just don't see the connection between wanting traditional family values, but having single moms... if people want traditional family values and they go back to that, they won't have single mom's... I just don't get the second half of this video, at all. It was disconnected rambling about abortions, "rape culture" and single moms. What does that have to do with conservative values? And I'm a classical libertarian, I don't like the religious arguements on abortion either, they're just as dumb as the left's. But, I don't get what Brett was getting at here
Well he does understand him Look at single motherhood before it was 20% families were in tact When politicians made laws to accommodate for that 20% single mother hood and broken families went from 20% to 71%
@@stayswervin554 ...Perhaps you also don't understand. Brett's problem with "conservatism" is that it is a bait and switch where "conservatives" define themselves by not being concerned with the bad, regressive, or backwards (anti-liberty) aspects of their prescriptions. What Brett is saying is that the good portions of anti-conservatism are so good that they ought be "selected" ala carte ...separating the libertarian goals from illegitimate conservative goals....when you're talking about the use of state power. ...because if you can't get this, you can't restore America. America as it stands doesn't need to be conserved....because we've already lost certain highly important battles. We ought go back and win those battles...but we can't be fucking idiots("conservatives") about choosing which battles those are. Pining for "every aspect of a prior system" is ignorant. Desiring the real value a prior system provided is wise....as us separating the value into categories: (1) a force-based system that still needs a political solution (eliminating corrupt law enforcement goals; restoring gun rights; targeting sex-motivated repeat rapists and murderers using John Douglas' methods) (2) a cultural preference that can't be addressed with force that conservatives ought choose for themselves, while recognizing it can't be imposed by force (a faithful marriage; the decision to keep your dick; not aborting an unplanned baby; etc.) ...imposing the latter by force on cultural variance is what empowered the then-legitimate left to begin with. (Of course, since Wilson, the left have been rank hypocrites aligned with central bankers...which 'conservatives' other than Ron Paul usually fail to address). ...Theres no valid reason to call oneself a conservative...and lots of illegitimate ones. People bitch about the trans agenda in public schooling...but then are so stupid they send their kids to the same rotten government-school. If you want to conserve what remains of your child's mind...keep them far away from educrats. Educate them at home.
@@stayswervin554 I agree...US "law" ought be the British common law, as clarified in the US Constitution. To restore it would create a libertarian paradise. ...A side result of that is fairly frightening to me...The trannies would start to be indistinguishable from biological women. ...But I've come to grips with that...even aspects of individual freedom I don't personally want to use will benefit me....such as by the life-extension tech being pursued by transgender woman Martine Rothblatt. I certainly don't want the FDA and its ignorant police state harassing her. ...But I also don't want to strip people of their right to criticize her. In fact, I'd like to know who the narrow-minded bigots are. However...I notice that "conservatives" also want to "conserve" their ticket-writing totalitarian drug cops. I disagree. I believe that free people can and should use whatever drug they wish, as long as they control their actions while they're on it. They can't violate cops' rights as dealers, because the cops gave up their British common law rights the second they put on the gang colors of a rights-violating street gang. A pretty woman doesn't need to listen to a stranger barking orders to remove her clothes...the instant his intent to rape becomes clear, she can and should use her tactical advantage and strike with her pistol...or...if she's been disarmed by the rape-enabling Leftists...whatever deadly force she can muster. The same is true of the cartels. They need not wait for militarized cops to attack them...as those cops clearly wish to do. The second a cop in America's networked gang attempts to violate Lockean property rights (as they all do multiple times a day), they forfeit their rights to "all those who are defending themselves."
The comments from the host attempting to rebut Brett's comments regarding the necessity to have abortion available in the case of rape illustrates a problem I've noticed with many conservatives. They are good at seeing the world as it is and are very capable of operating within the existing conditions. However, they have a difficult time projecting out future possible conditions when certain factors are changed.
Cmon, this Patric dude said The Rock…. Yes ‘The Rock’ would make a good president…. This dude is good at making money but in terms of general wisdom he’s not the sharpest tool in the shed. He could probably benefit from admitting what he doesn’t know a little more. Again, ‘The Rock’ 😑
@C B you obviously know nothing, pat is almost always spot on and if u remember he said the rock could run cause the presidential race is a popularly content, he said the same thing about AoC lol, people don't vote logically anymore
Also, Bret's reasons about state strategy to deter rape is wobbly. I would argue that aborting the baby actually encourages rape/the rapist. With the right to abort the baby, the rapist knows he's covered on the front of bearing any sort of burden/ responsibility to raise a child and the social and cultural stigma which acts as deterrents on the rapist to commit the offense again are removed by aborting the baby.
Brett is speaking from a evolutionary perspective. It's mating strategy, If a man can choose between simply r*pe someone and working hard to become a worthy mating choice for a woman in order to carry on his gene, what make u think that he will choose the latter? nature always choose shortest path.
NO, you did not! And those criminals who ARE evil do not deserve to be hugged and coddled as we so often see now. Liberals like to invert, they kill innocent babies, they fund monsters. It's part of the Frankist ideology, I used to live by the New School for Social Research, the rubber stamped PhDs and fanned them out to brainwash GIs coming home from World War 2, to a war no one knew we were in...a total infiltration.
It's not that conservatives don't believe we should be stewards of the environment, it's simply a matter of how we approach the issue. Liberals want to tax and regulate to try and save the environment, whereas conversatives believe in the power of free market innovation, and positive incentive structures.
These people are the products of academia. Specializing in the regurgitation of what previous book writers put in a book. No one with even a smidge of common sense follows any type of advice from these type of people. These guys were all in on getting trump out, we’re all in on the plandemic. We’re now seeing and feeling how well that’s turning out. Now to avoid backlash, they have changed their tune hoping we all forget.
The old mores and relationships between men and women "worked" according to conservatives, so we should go back to it. The question here is "worked for who?" The reason that we, as a society, have moved so far away from that state of affairs is because it didn't "work" for most of us. An argument for abortions is what happened in the Eighties. After all of the anti-abortion laws were rescinded in Sixties, crime rates went down dramatically in the Eighties. The reason: the abortions aborted potential criminals and approximately sixteen years later, they weren't there. It turns out that the women who got abortions were correct. They knew that they couldn't support the child and that, chances are, it would turn out bad because it wouldn't have the support needed. The holy rollers, who have no idea of the individual circumstances, and want to impose their dogma on people who understand their circumstances much better than the Christians, were the reason crime rates were so high. And overriding the Christian self righteousness led to much lower crime rates. As far as climate change. It is better to err on the side of preventing a potential climate catastrophe rather than deciding to fiddle while Rome burns. And Bret is absolutely correct in stating that the preserving the environment is what is important and climate change, on the whole, is only a small part of that. Also, conservatives choose to ignore what happened with acid rain. We eliminated acid rain by forcing industries to scrub sulphur out of their emissions and it worked. What did conservatives learn from this? Unfortunately, not to act quickly and decisively to eliminate climate and environmental issues. But, instead, to act quickly and decisively to discredit the scientists and environmentalists who had uncovered the issue. All in the name of short term profit and a quick buck. Thanks conservatives - for nothing.
First time I have been a little disappointed in Brett - especially when trying to say what would it take for him to be a conservative - he totally discounts the fact that majority of conservatives are monderate while Brett takes the position that conservatives are "religious conservatives".
That is the sole job of the progressive, to move the goal post about, to deflect, to cause chaos and to blame the other side - Saul Alinsky all the way.
@@RawOlympiaboth sides do it. If you don’t believe me look up the war on terror, torture, the patriot act, and drone strikes killing civilians. All were overwhelmingly popular at points in recent history.
Brett's clearly a thoughtful guy. I think he's missing something on his concern about "encouraging" rapists by not allowing the victims to get abortions. His concern presupposes that procreation is a motivating factor for rape in the first place. How often is that the actual case?
What Brett fails to consider is that there is already a huge movement of young people who are embracing traditional values because they’ve seen the ways Feminism has failed women, men, and society as a whole.
I disagree with Brett that the traditional model of marriage is obsolete. People who still want that and make the sacrifices to pursue that will be successful and the stats show that kids in that environment will do far better than those raised outside that.
Typical Patrick Bet-David interview, he asks the guest a question then after they give their answer he gives a short summary of the question and the answer he got. Then he begins to correct the guest telling them why they're wrong. But his response is often times confusing and the guest sometimes asks for clarification which seems to irritate him.
I really like Bret and his wife, but the reason they'd never be on The Right is because they, on a fundamental level, disagree with the tragic vision world view of us on The Right. They think that if just smarter people were in charge, things would be better. Yes, they'd be better, but not the exact way they want it to be
I am extremely conservative and I agree wholeheartedly with Dr. Weinstein especially with regard to the environment. I am not a global warming alarmist, but there is evidence and it’s contributed most by china and india.
@@christianbridge80 Half right. Calculate how many of your goods and now services come from China and India. Pretty easy to brag about not polluting when somebody else is polluting FOR you. China and India have done a HUNDRED times more for climate than the federal govenrment. People made the complaint "China is building coal plants" without looking into it and learning that no, China is REPLACING old heavily polluting coal plants wiht new ones that emit one tenth the emissions. Turns out coal power CAN be done failry cleanly, it just can't be done PROFITABLY. In India they have MOUNTAINS of coal but the country keeps it in the ground because of climate change agreements. In case you didn't notice China has already SURPASSED us in industrialization, many cities here look like the third world compared to China. A chinese tourist from shanghai will visit appalachia and there is poverty there worse than much of africa. As they've said for YEARS, the 'green revolution' is now an ECONOMIC necessity, not just an environmental one. And to the original point, even if ONE TENTH of climatologists pointed out what climage was going to do, that should be enough reason to change course. The fact we don't just proves how little actual democracy we have.
@Mike Archibald that's just the tip of the iceberg. We mustn't forget the use of fossil fuels in plastics, concrete production, smelting, creating nitrates and ammonia, where there are no alternatives, plus the amount of of fossil fuels used fir wind and solar. A good book called "How the world really works" by Vaclav Smil goes into detail. Anyway, I am not really worried about co2
@@christianbridge80 The IPCC recommendations don't say ANYTHING about never using fossil fuels ever again in anything. I"m quite well aware of how the world works, and in particular know how the OIL industry works, and frankly even without climate change that is the most insidious industry ever. If you look at their conduct it borders on outright evil.
Rapists will start trying to pro create through rape if abortion is made illegal? I respect Bret but that has to be one of the dumbest things he has ever said.
@@AB-qt4dj not it’s not. PBD asked Bret his main beef with conservatives and HE said climate change and traditional families which led into the rape discussion. This wasn’t a “got ya” interview
@@bmatthews15 I heard him, he didn’t make an argument. He’s just pretending “sCiEnCe” should be accepted blindly. He’s a narcissistic atheist who lives in academic fiction. He’s deluded, but so arrogant he’d never admit it.
Bret, I am a conservative and I agree with you that there is an environmental crisis and it does not have to relate to Climate Change. Most conservatives agree that we need to take care of the environment. I don't believe that conservative communicate this effectively, but if posed, would completely agree with you. Plastics are a huge problem and we have to deal with it.
Birth control isn't what destroyed the two parent home. Social welfare did that. Mothers always get the child no matter what. Then there government incentives her having more children (welfare/food stamps/section 8) and penalizes her if she does choose to get married (loss off those benefits). It also penalizes men with the loss of half oftotal assets and child support. They're is absolutely no financial benefit for EITHER sex to get married and it's entirely due to the government. Which is exactly the way democrats want it.
I think the bigger issue is that the past is what has lead to the present. The right will always lose because your vision for the future can't be the past.
True, but whenever reversion happens, that usually comes about because of a societal/civilizational collapse. And those situations are very brutal. And should be either avoided or mitigated/diluted to be less harmful for the people involved.
@@EricTitansSmith meh. The right isn’t only looking backwards, nostalgic. There are plenty interested in building a new thing without the entropic limitlessness of leftward drifting ideologies.
Politically , socially, financially , all of the above , the old system is falling .. God has his hand in everything . It will ultimately force us to change
Sex is not the biggest motivator in the universe. The desire to create is. Look around at the world built at the hands of highly motivated men… for thousands and thousands of years across all the world. It was built by Men that desire to build and produce and make things better. The desire to create came from our Creator and sex is but a tiny subset of the creation drive sewn into the fabric of a man’s soul. There’s a reason why the worth of a man is judged by his ability to produce.
He's right that birth control changed everything because you could just go out and have all the sex you want without the consequence of having a child. But people are still having children out of wedlock the birth rates of out-of-wedlock children is through the roof which means they're not on birth control and they're not using it otherwise they wouldn't be having all these children. Me that kind of contradicts itself. And the whole thing about climate change and environment, I mean we can all get behind having a good clean environment. But when the left uses nonsensical crap that we're going to replace fossil fuel with windmills and solar they're just talking out their ass on that one. But next new breakthrough energy hasn't arrived yet to replace fossil fuel. Maybe it will one of these days and it'll be clean energy that has as much output or equal output as fossil fuel.
The end point made on this clip is entirely accurate. The way the "pandemic" was handled (orchesteated), our society and it's political structure wasn't ready for it. The tools of open communication when combined with how philosophically, spiritually, and ethically unadvanced we are, simply are too dangerous for the types of global tensions the world rests upon, but not only that but also the ways in which medieval modes of political spin, manipulation, cloak and dagger subterfuge, and the push for neo-fuedalism operates, it will only further exacerbate tensions at the micro and macro scales of all nations. We cannot have a world that is this technologically naive, the wealth imbalance created by the digital tech companies will lead further into a divided society of the technological ruling class, and technologically illiterate serf class. This has always been the aim of authoritarian industrialists such as Schwab, and the WEF Fabian Socialists. The progressivism of technology creates the unnatural imbalances to both ecology, economy, and biology when we don't give enough time for staged, sage, and sensible introduction and from a more cautious perspective, that approach is incompatible with free market capitalism. As E.O. Wilson aptly says "The real problem for humanity is that we have Paleolithic emotions, Medieval institutions, and Godlike technology. And it is terrifically dangerous, and now approaching a point of crisis overall."
If humans are to survive, we will need someone like the comedian from watchmen to show us the futility of our current ambitions - hopefully without the violence Money, youth and power are all fleeting ambitions I only come here to see how smart people like PBD are still shilling bs
Disagree. They were ready for it. And it's actually going EXACTLY how they wanted to for the most part. Out political system is a joke. It was never meant to "Handle" crisis. Just take more control over people in times of it.
I really need to stop watching clips from Patrick. Bret spells it out pretty clearly. That there is a difference between the "Climate Change" agenda and the environmental crisis that we can all see with our own two eyes. Then Patrick's first response is "that conservatives don't have climate change as their priority, is that what you are saying?" Then Bret repeats the difference, saying he believes the activism about "Climate Change" is dubious. Then Patrick mentions it again. Literally proving Bret's point that he can't get behind conservatives because they want to throw the baby out with the bath water. Which means conservatives are not a willing ally to find solutions for real environmental problems because they are too busy fighting the left over something entirely different.
@@justopinions5919 why does he forget countries like poland and russia...they have normal families regardless of the pill....usa media and schools cause this
The only happy couples I know, including me, credit conservative gender roles for their happy relationships. "I'm the man and I will take responsibility for EVERYTHING, including my woman, but I am in charge. You, the woman deserve my complete loyalty, trust and sacrifice." Happy
Rapes of vulnerable minors are covered up by abortions. Sometimes they enable the abuser to continue the abuse. We recently saw the example in Ohio (11years old I think), a representative discussed her experience, I had a personal experience with abortion covering up deeper issues. I think the rape excuse is counter productive, and might hurt more than it helps.
This is obvious, evidenced by how bringing the grapi st to justice is never mentioned - not even as an afterthought - in the pro-abortion rape argument. I think that had that particular story not been a national news, that poor girl would still be getting grap ed on a daily basis today.
Bret needs to watch Fresh n Fit. In all seriousness, Bret is spending way too much time around Progressives and is completely out of touch with conservatives. The problem with abortions/family courts/child custody is simple. It bails women out of every bad choice and it does not force women to properly vet men. By vet, I mean, mentally, morally, socially, and financially. We live in a system where women are focusing on a smaller and smaller portion of men - that have no desire to marry them. Meanwhile the rest of the men who don't have relationships or have sex in any capacity, are working in an increasingly unfair and hostile system towards men, and paying taxes for social services that women want and primarily use. So we have a larger and larger portion of the male population that is losing any sort of connection with the system....The system which is punishing them and stealing their wealth more and more every day. So now we have an ever increasing amount of men in society, that pay higher and higher taxes, don't get laid, don't have kids, and can't start a family...because society has told women that they can have sex with whoever they want, and no matter what happens, the rest of the men will pick up the tab, pay for their delinquent baby, pay for the police to arrest the future teenager when he becomes a criminal, and so on and so forth - all while these women are low key hostile to men in the real world, social media, and on TV. Make no mistakes, women have co-opted our system to liberate their sexuality and Western men have allowed it to happen. The end result is going to be millions and millions of disenfranchised men that have no future and no investment in the world. In the end, our society will be over ran by more masculine men from third world countries or it will be burn to the ground from within.
I continually watch videos like this in hopes to understand the Socialist/Progressive Mindset. After watching dozens of these types of guests, I am even further separated from any breakthrough insights. What I am closer to, is a dedication for fully anchoring myself to the foundation of the Moral Precepts that make us Human and a wholesale rejection of ALL Liberal Ideals that constantly prove to be insane, indecent & uncivilized.
@@MichaelJames-lz7ni Comparing MY beliefs to those of Brutal Tyrannical Extremists is a clear indicator of what little grasp you have on Ideologies. Please Try Again.
@@marcfalsetti9381 "Brutal Tyrannical Extremists" is subjective....if people like YOU had your way, they'd be throwing homosexuals off of rooftops like they do legally in Iran...people like YOU would use your religion to codify all Laws over society, just like the Taliban. Theocracy ordained by the God of Abraham. The ONLY difference is the severity of the punishment for what you deem 'sin'....that is all.
@@MichaelJames-lz7ni Love how you tightly package & define Christian Conservativism. We like to call Liberals who do this as "Dunderclumpers" ~ Your desent into Moral Deprivation is clearly noted. And your embrace of an "Anything Goes" Society is comical, but frightening. You are free to pursue debasement to your hearts content, but me and my kind will always be available for advice on how to Save You From Yourself. (No Exclamation Point)
I am christian and conservative ... love to listen to Bret !! But many christians are dumb down. I learned early in my life with God, to read the bible for myself: because one group said this and an other group said exactly the ipposite. So I got interested in what God would think about something.... BOOM I got suprising answers shook my worldview, my life.... God is alive and speaks for himself !!!
When mentioning the date/incest exception for abortion to a Christian Conservative woman I knew years ago, she almost took my head off in confronting me on it. Now, 2 Things: 1. She wasn't as "conservative" as she portrayed herself to be in public, i.e. her actions didn't add up to the narrative she was selling about herself. She was moderate and a bit liberal in other beliefs / values. 2. Even though she is very conservative on abortion ( none ever ), there does seem to be an increasing disagreement among Conservatives on variations of Pro Life positions. IMO, that is a good thing the Left has done to underscore greater compassion for the victim. ( Gotta give credit where it's due. Also, the Left has overlooked millions upon millions of aborted babies. Those victims don't matter, so there's that as well. )
12:10 exactly. And we have laws against murder so where do those laws begin to take effect? At birth? So premmies are okay to kill? It's clearly conception. I'm anti religious and I can see the logic there and I cannot see it in the pro choice side. YES if a woman is raped she should not be forced to create that child. But that's like 0.1 percent of abortion. What people like me and those religious zealots you speak of are concerned about is how the pro choice side makes abortion seem like average contraceptive with no emphasis on waiting to fuck or using condoms or any of that. Seems the pro choice side has decided that it's natural for kids to wanna fuck so let em go at it. It's destroying the natural social structure that maintained the overall structure of human societies for all of their known existence. And birth control... Are we not gonna acknowledge how birth control fucks up a woman's hormones? I like bret but he seems to think we live outside of nature. I think changes creep up before they happen and we are witnessing the creepage.
As a 31 y/o American woman, I’d like to have children with a partner, but none of my jobs (med device sales, neurology clinic director, senior project management) in the past ten years has offered paid maternity leave, and the healthcare costs of pregnancy and birth are insane here even with insurance. But, unless I get at least a partner, my ability to own a home is pretty nonexistent. So I need a partner to live a certain way. If I have a partner, I’d like children, but every part of that process has gotten so financially expensive.
Patrick David is a phenomenal interviewer. He seems to always expose all these experts from the left, right, and center as having illogical and non-rational (may it be slight or extreme) political and social biases of some sort. Brilliant! Keep up the good work. In software development if a new feature does not work we rollback as well. I do not understand this perspective that we can not go back if something is not working.
I, too, work in software development - and you are correct - if something is not working, we roll back. The problem with this analogy, is that there are 300+ million people in the U.S. alone that don't necessarily believe that things aren't working, or if they do, they don't agree on what, specifically, is not working, or if they do, they do not agree on how to fix what's not working. Unfortunately, in this clip, Weinstein did not sufficiently identify what the disagreements are, or why the proposed solutions are not working. Effectively, he said "there's something fundamentally wrong in the relationships between men and women," then says "but we cannot go backward." I generally lean fairly conservative (in modern times, I'd probably be considered far right...but I think I'm fairly moderate to right-leaning), but this conversation was very ambiguous and did not seem to capture conservative arguments very well (a little bit, but not very well). As an example (so that I'm not ambiguous), when he talks about the relationship between men and women, is he talking about "women in the workplace," the "gender pay gap," "rape culture," "abortion," "nature vs nurture," "men as head of household," "men doing dangerous jobs," or any of the other myriad of ways men and women inhabit the world? PBD is a great interviewer, and really does like to break down arguments from both sides (I give him credit for that), AND he has the added bonus of staying calm and keeping is interviewees calm, this was a superficial conversation at best.
I haven't met a conservative yet that doesn't care about the environment. And the lack of traditional family structures is why our society is collapsing. Y'all seem to think we want dumb wives, barefoot at home... my stay-at-home wife is educated beyond me! 😂 And she worked for a few years but now does an at-home Business that's doing quite well. Where do you get your info Brett?
I am a conservative and I care a lot of the environment. I love nature. I believe a balance can be achieved between development and natural preservation.
On the second issue about the traditional family structure. I don't have any illusion that it will go back to the old days specially in the West. But I know that the breakdown of the family has resulted in a lot of the problems in our society today.
Exactly. I believe you speak for the great majority of conservatives. The left has absolutely no clue what conservatives really believe. They just parrot what the media tells them. This is the greatest culture war ever. It takes zero brain power To be a part of the political left today. All you have to do is agree with whatever the TV is telling you. To be on the political right today requires someone to actually think and do real research to find out the truth, because hardly anyone is saying it.
It’s the same thing with liking Trump. Disliking Trump is extremely easy. Everywhere you look people are destroying him. In order to like the guy you have to sift through all that BS and dig deep to find the truth.
@@joebeezy9471 Exactly 💯
It's interesting that family structure can predict a cultures inclination towards certain ideologies. I wonder if the nuclear family structure is unstable somehow, and causes half the population to divorce, which is why half the population disagrees with the other half in the USA. I dunno something to think about.
is through regulation or capitalism
But you can go back. It’s called repentance. Stop right there in your tracks. Acknowledge this direction is the wrong way. Turn around. And go the right way. One man married to one woman and then having sex and kids is the only right way. Period. I’m a big fan of Bret since he was done dirty at Evergreen. But he argues morality without acknowledging God. That’s his and everyone else’s problem. No Jesus, no peace. Know Jesus, know peace. This talk that we can’t go back is the irrational reasoning an alcoholic does to justify holding onto the bottle. It feels good, but it’s destructive. And it blinds you to the fact that being married to the mother of your children feels even better.
The government also encourages and incentivizes single motherhood. Maybe if we rewarded families that stay together we would have a stronger moral fabric in this country. Instead, we have overcrowded prisons where over 90% of the inmates come from a single mother home.....
It's time to incentivize fatherhood.
They will really only incentivize trans birthsczcams.com/video/dlaNfhW3Ims/video.html from implnated uteruses. Liberalism really IS about pushing the envelope, Focault was right.
@@RawOlympia I really appreciate your insight. I agree.
@@leonardwitucke1 thnx...
Motherhood as well
@@kdm28 I think we have tried that, and it's failed. Maybe we could reward the family unit? I just don't see anything good coming from rewarding mothers for having a child. That has torn our country apart in my opinion.
Can’t go back? Well, wait until a war or major crisis breaks out. 🤷🏾♂️
Bret: “We can’t go backwards”
Taliban In Afghanistan: “Hold my beer”
Haha so true!
..."wait"...?
So what you are saying is that US has to degrade to the point Afganistan did in 2021 in order to go back to what it used to be?
I mean, your entitled to your opinions, but...
@@benatbadiola9690 that's what you got out of what op said? Ok....
Indeed! Progressive is also code for regressive I have learned here in Raw Olympia. We gave them the city when they said they knew better over at Evergreen. Now everyone is living in a tent! A blue plastic progressive tent town! Look at San Francisco, look at the wisdom of the feces from liberalism!
I love conversations like this. Two opposite sides coming together and exchanging ideas without being at each other’s throats or trying to be some provocateur or being edgy. Just a straight up conversation and mutual respect whether agree or disagree.
They are at eachothers throats verbally without insulting and thats what makes it great??
@@nyChannel09 They aren't really at each other's throats but they're definitely coming from different realms. To the evolutionist it's almost a foregone conclusion that predators breeding will create more predators. To the scientist it's totally unimportant what Greta did at whatever time because that's just an anecdote from one person and we don't even know what that person represents so instead we need to look at the data to make an informed decision. But PBD is a business guy and a people person, he doesn't trust the data or the science that much but he sees deceit coming from the climate change movement and he doesn't think that a predator reproducing automatically creates another predator because the same genetic traits that could lead to raip in the father (fearlessness, assertiveness, passion, self-interest) could lead to being a protective father AGAINST raip in the son.
Yes. The complete opposite of when Roland Martin was in 🤣 I couldn’t get through that one lol
“When I disagree with a person, I can’t navigate my emotional response, so I resort to name-calling as a way to reduce complex perspectives from others that I don’t fully understand”
-Too many of us
On both sides. Absolutely. Sick of all this stuff boiling down to right vs left and that being the end of discussion. Your evil because your not on the same side as me....pathetic
Go watch a "pro-trans" rally and get back to us.
Brett's a thorough thinker- good move brining him on. Darkhorse (he and Heather) continues to provide a quality program. Agree with them, or disagree, it is thought-provoking and they're not sloppy with their thoughts/words.
My favorite thing about them is their precision.
Bret's a marvelous critic of the state, but at the same time, has spent his whole life arguing for government intervention. So now even HE can see the problems with state intervention, but he's only criticizing bad actors in power, instead of questioning his support of policies that put those guys into positions of WAY too much power. He's still a big-government liberal, even though the last 10 years or so of his life he's been a VICTIM of the fruits of that belief of his.
This is why I can't take Pat seriously.... he's obviously business SAVVY, but he's just not that intelligent. I think there was a good 3 to 4 minutes Brett was speaking and Pat was completely lost. Dude started out by emphasizing the environmental crisis IRRESPECTIVE of climate change and the first thing Pat says is "So you think the first thing conservatives have wrong is climate change..." 🤦♂️🤡🤡🤡
I don't think he has a clue what conservatives actually think.
I like how he says Republicans instantly dismiss climate change and it doesn't matter regardless as there's still an environmental crisis we're in.. and instantly shows an interview of Gretta Thundburg to throw doubt on climate change.
Showing that clip had me baffled. I wondered whether he understood Brett's response at all. He never addressed his main point (the environmental problems that have nothing to do with climate change).
Yuck. He said Conservatives not Republicans. Republicans are a political party. The Conservatives who are in the party need not be there, except that it’s the primary Conservative Party. It’s history and the gremlins hiding in it’s basement need not be overly embraced merely because it’s the best place to find other Conservatives for now. And that would be confusing Republicans with Conservatives.
One thing I never understood with politics in the west, is why do so many politicians get caught with corruption and conflicts of interest and don't have any accountability? They get caught and don't go to prison and that's why so many continue with their corruption because there is no severe punishment for betraying a country's citizens. If they got put in jail and fined massively, a lot of politicians would be fearful, just like criminals do when crime and punishment is severe for their horrible actions.
We've reached a tipping point in America where there are enough people within the corrective mechanisms that are tainted by an interconnected web of corruption that they cannot afford to support any level of accountability.
@@dakotaslim because I think they immunity while serving but can be charge after they’ve been voted out.
@@yagballs676 the thing with this clip is that poland and russia have normal families regardless of pill....its usa media and schools that cause ruin..........
@@yagballs676 And yet they aren't. Because the same problem exists whether they are in office or not. They have dirt on powerful people within the justice system. And they do not have any kind of legal immunity.
Because they don't serve citizens, they serve oligarchs. Where do you live where politicians are held accountable?
I literally know no conservatives who don't think we should protect the environment in some ways.
What? No way
that's bc Bret made up a fantasy in his head about how everyone fits nicely into one of two boxes.
In what ways do conservatives suggest we should protect the environment?
@@aomorgancool1775 Ron DeSantis' record on everglades restoration and preservation is the most robust in Florida's history. Not to mention his record on overall water conservation in the state. His first day in office in 2018 he forced the resignation of an entire board in South Florida that had overseen the sugarcane factory leaks into the everglades and indirectly the atlantic ocean. Then allocated millions towards water restoration projects in the area. The information is right in front of you if you want to see it. The whole "conservative" "liberal" narrative is all smoke and mirrors.
It's not on their priority list. The support is only in generalities. They back off when It gets down to brass tacks.
PBD is a breath of fresh air - i really like the way he breaks down his interviews and tries to get to the real issues. Also It is obvious that Weinstein is struggling to rid himself of his own creative caricature of conservatives.
Caricature of conservatives? Have you met any?
There is goofy ass mfers on both sides. We are as absurd as cartoons no wonder we see each other as such.
@Anti - Emo. Have you? Picking the worst extremes, doesn't an accurate picture make.
@@Biggiiful Well, based on your grammar, I might be pretty accurate in my assessments! 😆
@@anti-emo4721 YOU are questioning someone's grammar? Go back and read your 1st comment, dumdum.
He sees the world from atheistic stand point. He sees humans as animals without a creator or morality.
I don't think he's an athiest, though. He pushed against Sam Harris stance on God.
@@healer81 Religion is metaphorically true, factually false, is his stance.
PBD you are a boss. Never stop.
Neyonce...of you cant read what pbd is?
I feel sorry for all of us...
@@deadprivacy did you like your own comment?
@@deadprivacy did you like your own comment?
@@jasonolinger7585 if i didnt like it, why would i write it?
@@jasonolinger7585 did you write your comment twice?
Its almost as though when your interacting on a tiny screen you accidently press buttons or such...
And the time it takes to find that out?
Id have to google how to find that out first, then have to find that out...
Amd the fact yhat this is the comment you decided to find that out about?
You know the comment woth the word neyonce in it?
Of all the comments to research, you chose this one?
Ok.
When the system doesn't offer enough jobs paying enough that a man can support a family, then many men won't support a family It's no mystery.
Bret Weinstein is the living embodiment of a Reddit philosophy discourse. Just random circular arguments, not really answering anything ever lmfaooo
Just another liberal trying to sound logical
@@wlcsp as a leftist (not the common audience for this podcast I can tell lol), I find him more to be the enlightened centrist type 🤷
You embody the Reddit commenter. Thank you for completing the circle.
@@TheRealTurkFebruary I think we all have a little bit of Redditor in us. The comment was like a half joke. My point was just that he wasn't really answering anything and repeating circular arguments. I can pretty confidently defend most of my points even if most of the ppl here disagree with them so I like to think I'm a tiny bit better than a Redditor 😌
I enjoyed this interview a lot. While Bret is high in the sky talking about evolutionary pattern, David slaps him back down to the present day.
I'm an Evangalical Conservative and I listen to Weinstein precisely because we disagree on a few points. Weinstein challenges folks like me in a respectful and intellectually honest manner.
We should try to return to ideas and behaviors that are desirable to what we do now. It may be difficult, but we should find a way. Don't surrender to the nihilism of the present and future.
There's also a very real yearning for tradition and values that have been squandered or lost. It's time to (once again) be an exemplar in those tenets.
@@CleverGirlAAH "Traditional Values" considered women to be breeding-chattel, blacks were property to be bought-n-sold, and homosexuals were criminals to be prosecuted and incarcerated/killed by the State. Are these the "glory days" you speak of?
Lol
Brett's point about rapists reproducing totally went above PBD's head, and apparently almost everyone else's in the comment section. This is what happens when you don't listen to your guests.
Totally agree with you. Brett is speaking from a evolutionary perspective, everyone seems to miss the point. If a man is no longer required to prove his worth and he can simply r*pe a woman to carry on his gene, he will do just that, regardless of the consequence.
@Hao Ng ya I wanted Brett to dig more into that. He's probably one of a handful of people with enough experience to speak on the matter. I feel like PBD was too focused on the politics and legal aspects of it. Maybe he interviewed too many political figures that he forgot Brett's insights should be more focused on evolutionary biology and not legal or political aspects.
Hopefully Brett gets another chance maybe on joe rogan to go in depth on the subject
If you go back in history before the 1800s women did participate in business in many capacities. Women have been leaders in textile business since ancient Egypt. It’s the Victorian period where people get stuck because women were confined to being domestic wives for that time. Not all history was like that. Women could be wives as well as business people.
Queen Isabella, Elizabeth I, Cleopatra…..the most powerful piece in Chess is a female figure. The West has had women leaders since Christianized Roman times….
I can’t vote for anyone who doesn’t fervently defend my right to protect myself and my family. I can deal with a lot of disagreements and still vote for a candidate, but not when they are going to let that right be stripped from me.
Bret: “Even if climate change were complete fiction, we have a serious problem with environmental sustainability.”
Pat: “So, your problem with conservatives is that climate change is not their top priority.”
Bret: “Nooo. Again, even if climate change is completely fictional, we have a serious environmental sustainability problem.”
Pat: “Yeah, but did you see that clip of Greta Thunberg?” 🤦♂️
Pretty standard PBD response lol, but appreciate these convos, just wish he could keep up better.
@@tark8516 it's gotta be hard on these guests lol
@@stu7900 his analogies are the worst lol.
Pbd is a cool guy but goddam he's so dumb
Because he is not unbiased. He wants to promote his own narratives. As much as people criticize Joe Rogan, he’s popular because most of the time he lets his guests push their own narratives
Im 44 and the fact that he is older than me and still believes in "climate change" or whatever you wanna call it this decade is just sad. Ive been told since I was I child in the 80's that we'd be under water by now yet all those politicians and celebrities that told me such all live in beachfront estates.
well, climate change is indeed bullshit.
not even Elon Musk probably believes in the nonsense.
in fact his SpaceX rockets emit more CO² than a 1 million gas cars in a year.
and not to speak about the fact EV cars produce CO² during manufacturing and transportation of materials across the world with cargo ships that use oil/gas.
it's so hypocritical, a complete lie yet stupid people buy into it.
sooner or later, people will probably get arrested if they start a BBQ grill using wood.
climate change police sounds like a conspiracy theory but leftist lunatics are capable of even that sort of thing.
He didn't say he believes in climate change that corporations and politicians are pushing, but that environmental sustainability, the way we poison our oceans and lands to make way for profit is doing damage to the planet.
One can believe in climate change without adopting the ludicrous notion of imminent catastrophe.
42 here and Yep I remember late 80s it wasn't global warming. It was going to be global cooling that was going to kill us all we weren't gonna be able to grow enough food to feed everybody. Hey wait that Cooley never happened now did it that's the problem with the climate change debate? No catastrophe has ever happened to due to the climate change part and nothing they've ever said has happened as they have said it does the climate change yes I believe it does but I don't believe we have anything to do with it.
Im not sure thats what he said. He said there is some reality and some fiction to climate change, but also said we are harming the earth.
I can agree with that. Climate change isn't a problem, but pollution most definitely is. Microplastics, man made chemicals, can cause deleterious effects for years to come, and we dont really understand the repurcussions of it.
Climate change is a false god, and there is zero need for alarmists to be harping on about it.....other than money and control.
I do believe there is climate change, as all through history there is plenty of evidence of it. As well, current records show variability in climate, but its hard to predict a forward path based on 100 years of recorded data. As for man made climate change? I doubt we play much of a role in "global warming" with co2 emmissions as anyone would have you believe.
Not to put words in Bret's mouth, but I'm pretty sure hes thinking along the same lines as I do.
For pollution, we need to be better stewards of the earth.
For climate change, we simply need to adapt as time goes by.
Patrick, please PLEASE continue this discussion with Bret! Get him back on, but encourage him to be more specific, as you tried to do during this telecast. I don't feel he made a compelling case for why he has a beef with conservatives in this short period of time. When Bret says we can't go back, I'm sure in some ways we can't, but there are very significant ways we can at least TRY to go back: honesty, integrity, goodness, justice, decency, hard work and honor are a few.
I like this discussion but per usual no real solutions were offered and we can't go back but what apply the values you mentioned to today's society. Like he said for example the family unit of yesterday is done but any family unit could use those values, they aren't mutually left or right. He identified that too many conservatives want past systems and structures which don't apply to today, that doesn't mean the values aren't applicable to whichever side of the aisle you lie
@@RobJarrell63 the problem is that bret forgets the whole world is not usa...poland, russia etc have normal families....its usa media and schools which ruin
@le bowe bold examples there.
I also don't think he was speaking on the world, more so the US because he was asked about American politics.
@le bowe honestly in western countries, to raise a child is much more expensive
@@RobJarrell63 one its not cheap in poland or russia...two...both of those in reality are western countries....the real east is india, china etc.........the reality is that american women are not only fatter but also have worse morals....
Love the way Pat grilled him on a bunch of non-answers. Weinstein floundering made a better argument for conservatism than against it. Abortion is a fail-safe for womens’ bad reproductive choices, and that’s the realest point of contention on the issue. It’s being used a birth control and that’s only okay with me if men get to have a say in whether or not they want to participate in raising said child. If she can choose to kill my baby cuz she changed her mind, I should be able to choose not to participate financially if she chooses to have it. Nobody can force her to go forward giving birth-okay, that’s fine-nobody can force him to go forth in parental responsibility. Essentially there needs to be some sort of rules and regulations about what makes abortion acceptable. That’s the only way to create a system that values man and woman equally, cuz apparently equality is sooo important to women (except, it’s only important when policy favors them). Matriarchal ideology is such a farce
Bret's argument is extremely weak in regards to rape
Downright asinine
Really? It is? People are refusing to understand what’s going on In the ‘dating’ age world. It’s becoming exponentially harder for most men to find women on an equal playing field. What’s the ratio going to look like in 5 years. 90% of women are being sought after by just 10% of men? Tell me the primal triggers aren’t going to be pulled on the other 90% of men?! We’re staring at a time bomb that’s just about timed out…
Super weak. Conservatives argument is that abortion can’t be used as birth control which is 95% of them
Honestly I thought this guy was sorta smart but what a ridiculous argument. Tough on crime is how you stop grapist not abortion 🤦🤦🤦
He is a moron. What do you expect?
If we don't act now the planet might get one degree hotter in the next 50 years... seriously that's it
I would have liked to hear which current Democrats he admires and why, that would have said a lot.
Brett is maybe my most favorite person to listen to talk through an issue. Sometimes he loses me because I can't follow all of his points, but he's just so thorough and logical. I am a conservative-leaning libertarian, but I'd rather listen to him than just about anybody.
Agree, Bret is great to listen to. I like his brother Eric too but he can sometimes get caught in his own head
Bret does not understand birth control is merely a tool. Keeping her legs closed is a moral and self respect issue. Women are told a lie that casual sex is freedom.
As for environmental issues, it is the use of it to push for catastrophic policies like in California's ban of natural gas in homes, ban new gas car sales and stonewalling home construction.
Women enjoy sex too that is not a lie. And I personally hate the sex shaming of women with abortion. It’s always women need to keep their legs closed never the men need to keep it in their pants or strap up. Most of the time unprotected sex & abortions are caused by men pressuring women but no one wants to talk about that.
@@shaymalchione809 i think it's not about whose to blame here
It takes two to tango, but given a chance men will fu*k everything with a hole, i mean EVERYTHING. Their lust are mind blowing
woman on the other hand have better control on this regard, generally speaking. Who can decide which one can enter or not, in some sense it is a form of birth control
Abortion in the other hand should not be treated as a birth control but as a last resort. Because other birth control exist, and much safer. hell if you want to do it raw anyway there are some birth control that accommodate it
But why doesn’t society invest in avoiding having an unwanted child prior to sex, rather create a “safety net” to get rid of the child after the fact that sex has been done.
The answer to rape is not kill the child. The answer is the death penalty for the rapist.
Mt St.Helens is returning to a prior natural state relatively well.
Brett is correct when he says the pandemic gave us “a peak” of how governance actually works. I would go further and say it gave the world the best look behind the curtain of Empire. Both political parties in the USA are no longer viable, the tendrils of empire extend beyond them though. Just look at what happened to Canada in a matter of less than 3 years. Does the World have the Will for the radical change that is needed before it’s too late?
I appreciate that pbd is trying his best to approximate a thinking person.
There seems to be an awful lot of 'missing the point' going on here, I agree.
He doesn't seem comfortable with complex scenarios. The Dunning-Kreuger is strong with this one.
Bret: “Even if climate change were complete fiction, we have a serious problem with environmental sustainability.”
Pat: “So, your problem with conservatives is that climate change is not their top priority.”
Bret: “Nooo. Again, even if climate change is completely fictional, we have a serious environmental sustainability problem.”
Pat: “Yeah, but did you see that clip of Greta Thunberg?” 🤦♂️
@@CrazyLinguiniLegs LOL, yes exactly. Bret concedes the point; that there's a campaign of misinformation going on. So let's beat that horse some more with the Greta thing.
The problem seems to be an inability to dig down into, 'why is it unsustainable?'.
@Always On It I know, right? Because, ultimately, having a bunch of money is the be-all-end-all of existence, right?
And here is where Liberals lose me: Energy independence and the move toward renewable energy doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. Until we lay out a plan to show all American's HOW we are going to generate, store and distribute the electricity we need to 'go green', we must continue to push toward independence. Also, everyone needs full understanding on the day to day items that petroleum products are involved in. I fully believe that about 1% of people get it.
And when America does both, we will be able to export the heck out of our resources to those in need, as well as sell them the tech we have developed on renewables.
The sad thing is in in order to produce the amount of electricity we 'need' in this country if we were to abandon coal and natural gas, we need to invest in nuclear power...and who is clamoring for that?
This guest speaks in circular arguments. He doesn’t want to give an answer but clearly the other guy is not right? Talking like your sophisticated is not indicative of sophisticated thought.
Agree!
Brett wants to be able to claim he’s a Liberal/Progressive so bad that he is totally mischaracterizing Conservatives. 1. On environmentalism, most homesteaders and farmers who live off of the land are middle America conservatives. 2. On traditional family values, he’s WAY overthinking this one. A kid without 2 parents is less likely to thrive, that’s obvious, everything else is secondary.
Now I remember why I quit listening to Weinstein. He talks forever without saying anything
😂😂 yup
Bingo!
I'm a big fan of Brett, but I don't know what he was getting at with his "second reason". He said something like "Conservatives want to go back to traditional family values, and we just can't"... explain? And what does that have to do with abortions, I didn't expect that to have anything to do with abortions. I thought that had to do with women in the workplace, driving up the price of every single asset and making it a requirement for two people to work, and going backwards would mean immense economic damage, at least temporarily. I also don't think it requires two people to raise a child, like he said, it never did. If a mom is stay at home, she will have the time and resources (provided by the man) to take care of the child, and the man will be there after work to help as well. I just don't see the connection between wanting traditional family values, but having single moms... if people want traditional family values and they go back to that, they won't have single mom's... I just don't get the second half of this video, at all. It was disconnected rambling about abortions, "rape culture" and single moms. What does that have to do with conservative values? And I'm a classical libertarian, I don't like the religious arguements on abortion either, they're just as dumb as the left's. But, I don't get what Brett was getting at here
15:50 PBD plainly didn't understand what Brett was saying.
Well he does understand him
Look at single motherhood before it was 20% families were in tact
When politicians made laws to accommodate for that 20% single mother hood and broken families went from 20% to 71%
You never ever made laws for the minority. When it would hurt the majority
@@stayswervin554 ...Perhaps you also don't understand. Brett's problem with "conservatism" is that it is a bait and switch where "conservatives" define themselves by not being concerned with the bad, regressive, or backwards (anti-liberty) aspects of their prescriptions. What Brett is saying is that the good portions of anti-conservatism are so good that they ought be "selected" ala carte ...separating the libertarian goals from illegitimate conservative goals....when you're talking about the use of state power. ...because if you can't get this, you can't restore America. America as it stands doesn't need to be conserved....because we've already lost certain highly important battles. We ought go back and win those battles...but we can't be fucking idiots("conservatives") about choosing which battles those are. Pining for "every aspect of a prior system" is ignorant. Desiring the real value a prior system provided is wise....as us separating the value into categories: (1) a force-based system that still needs a political solution (eliminating corrupt law enforcement goals; restoring gun rights; targeting sex-motivated repeat rapists and murderers using John Douglas' methods) (2) a cultural preference that can't be addressed with force that conservatives ought choose for themselves, while recognizing it can't be imposed by force (a faithful marriage; the decision to keep your dick; not aborting an unplanned baby; etc.) ...imposing the latter by force on cultural variance is what empowered the then-legitimate left to begin with. (Of course, since Wilson, the left have been rank hypocrites aligned with central bankers...which 'conservatives' other than Ron Paul usually fail to address). ...Theres no valid reason to call oneself a conservative...and lots of illegitimate ones.
People bitch about the trans agenda in public schooling...but then are so stupid they send their kids to the same rotten government-school. If you want to conserve what remains of your child's mind...keep them far away from educrats. Educate them at home.
@@stayswervin554 I agree...US "law" ought be the British common law, as clarified in the US Constitution. To restore it would create a libertarian paradise. ...A side result of that is fairly frightening to me...The trannies would start to be indistinguishable from biological women. ...But I've come to grips with that...even aspects of individual freedom I don't personally want to use will benefit me....such as by the life-extension tech being pursued by transgender woman Martine Rothblatt.
I certainly don't want the FDA and its ignorant police state harassing her. ...But I also don't want to strip people of their right to criticize her. In fact, I'd like to know who the narrow-minded bigots are.
However...I notice that "conservatives" also want to "conserve" their ticket-writing totalitarian drug cops. I disagree. I believe that free people can and should use whatever drug they wish, as long as they control their actions while they're on it. They can't violate cops' rights as dealers, because the cops gave up their British common law rights the second they put on the gang colors of a rights-violating street gang.
A pretty woman doesn't need to listen to a stranger barking orders to remove her clothes...the instant his intent to rape becomes clear, she can and should use her tactical advantage and strike with her pistol...or...if she's been disarmed by the rape-enabling Leftists...whatever deadly force she can muster.
The same is true of the cartels. They need not wait for militarized cops to attack them...as those cops clearly wish to do. The second a cop in America's networked gang attempts to violate Lockean property rights (as they all do multiple times a day), they forfeit their rights to "all those who are defending themselves."
You know we are fuc*ed when the conservatives are more rational and centrist.
I don't think that either of you is in synch to the conversation that is happening, or is it just me?
The comments from the host attempting to rebut Brett's comments regarding the necessity to have abortion available in the case of rape illustrates a problem I've noticed with many conservatives.
They are good at seeing the world as it is and are very capable of operating within the existing conditions.
However, they have a difficult time projecting out future possible conditions when certain factors are changed.
"I'm trying not to process it because I don't even know what it is."
This is the statement of someone who cannot defend their own beliefs on the spot.
Probably because logic is not only more useful, but more powerful than belief. It's a good thing to be humbled by what you don't know on the daily.
Cmon, this Patric dude said The Rock…. Yes ‘The Rock’ would make a good president…. This dude is good at making money but in terms of general wisdom he’s not the sharpest tool in the shed. He could probably benefit from admitting what he doesn’t know a little more. Again, ‘The Rock’ 😑
A man who can't change his mind is incapable of leaning.
@C B you obviously know nothing, pat is almost always spot on and if u remember he said the rock could run cause the presidential race is a popularly content, he said the same thing about AoC lol, people don't vote logically anymore
The entire podcast is him defending his views on the spot. He just didn’t particularly care about taking up the clickbaity Greta topic
Also, Bret's reasons about state strategy to deter rape is wobbly. I would argue that aborting the baby actually encourages rape/the rapist. With the right to abort the baby, the rapist knows he's covered on the front of bearing any sort of burden/ responsibility to raise a child and the social and cultural stigma which acts as deterrents on the rapist to commit the offense again are removed by aborting the baby.
Brett is speaking from a evolutionary perspective. It's mating strategy, If a man can choose between simply r*pe someone and working hard to become a worthy mating choice for a woman in order to carry on his gene, what make u think that he will choose the latter? nature always choose shortest path.
@@haong1790 On average, a rapist thinks in this evolutionary way? That the goal of raping a woman is to carry on his genes by rearing a child?
As someone who was a product of rape; I did not deserve the death penalty.
“Product of rape”
NO, you did not! And those criminals who ARE evil do not deserve to be hugged and coddled as we so often see now. Liberals like to invert, they kill innocent babies, they fund monsters. It's part of the Frankist ideology, I used to live by the New School for Social Research, the rubber stamped PhDs and fanned them out to brainwash GIs coming home from World War 2, to a war no one knew we were in...a total infiltration.
Glad you are with us.
The bill of rights says we all have the right to life . I'm happy that they chose life for you
While technically true, if your mom did get an abortion and later married an honest man, you would have a different welcome into this world.
It's not that conservatives don't believe we should be stewards of the environment, it's simply a matter of how we approach the issue. Liberals want to tax and regulate to try and save the environment, whereas conversatives believe in the power of free market innovation, and positive incentive structures.
Theres no incentive for multi billion dollar energy companies to change their business models.
Brett and Eric are great minds to listen to. Extremely intelligent and insightful, each in their own ways.
These people are the products of academia. Specializing in the regurgitation of what previous book writers put in a book.
No one with even a smidge of common sense follows any type of advice from these type of people.
These guys were all in on getting trump out, we’re all in on the plandemic. We’re now seeing and feeling how well that’s turning out. Now to avoid backlash, they have changed their tune hoping we all forget.
So why does he forget that places and russia have normal families regardless of the pill.....its usa media and schools that ruin
Brett more so than Eric.
I wish Eric would start going on podcasts again . Or start his own up again
The old mores and relationships between men and women "worked" according to conservatives, so we should go back to it. The question here is "worked for who?" The reason that we, as a society, have moved so far away from that state of affairs is because it didn't "work" for most of us.
An argument for abortions is what happened in the Eighties. After all of the anti-abortion laws were rescinded in Sixties, crime rates went down dramatically in the Eighties. The reason: the abortions aborted potential criminals and approximately sixteen years later, they weren't there.
It turns out that the women who got abortions were correct. They knew that they couldn't support the child and that, chances are, it would turn out bad because it wouldn't have the support needed. The holy rollers, who have no idea of the individual circumstances, and want to impose their dogma on people who understand their circumstances much better than the Christians, were the reason crime rates were so high. And overriding the Christian self righteousness led to much lower crime rates.
As far as climate change. It is better to err on the side of preventing a potential climate catastrophe rather than deciding to fiddle while Rome burns. And Bret is absolutely correct in stating that the preserving the environment is what is important and climate change, on the whole, is only a small part of that.
Also, conservatives choose to ignore what happened with acid rain. We eliminated acid rain by forcing industries to scrub sulphur out of their emissions and it worked. What did conservatives learn from this? Unfortunately, not to act quickly and decisively to eliminate climate and environmental issues. But, instead, to act quickly and decisively to discredit the scientists and environmentalists who had uncovered the issue. All in the name of short term profit and a quick buck. Thanks conservatives - for nothing.
First time I have been a little disappointed in Brett - especially when trying to say what would it take for him to be a conservative - he totally discounts the fact that majority of conservatives are monderate while Brett takes the position that conservatives are "religious conservatives".
His biological facts are wrong…human life begins at conception. Planned Parenthood kills more blacks in a month than the KKK did in 100 years.
"need to understand the environmental crisis is not synonymous with climate change"
PBD translates:
"So climate change should be a priority"
All of a sudden they're no longer synonymous? Way to move the goal posts, YET AGAIN, Weinstein!
That is the sole job of the progressive, to move the goal post about, to deflect, to cause chaos and to blame the other side - Saul Alinsky all the way.
@@RawOlympiaboth sides do it. If you don’t believe me look up the war on terror, torture, the patriot act, and drone strikes killing civilians. All were overwhelmingly popular at points in recent history.
@@jimbo5472 Jimbo, you are correct, in the 80s it was the threat of evangelicals and then the double Bush thing, yeah, it all sucks!
Brett's clearly a thoughtful guy. I think he's missing something on his concern about "encouraging" rapists by not allowing the victims to get abortions. His concern presupposes that procreation is a motivating factor for rape in the first place. How often is that the actual case?
What Brett fails to consider is that there is already a huge movement of young people who are embracing traditional values because they’ve seen the ways Feminism has failed women, men, and society as a whole.
Not really. More like they got one foot in, one foot out.
@@bmatthews15 that may be true in your case.
Conservatives have a hard time reaching younger voters which we seen in the midterms.
Yeah, I wouldn't say "huge". "Trending" maybe.
There are cultures that never got rid of it. Thank God we don’t listen to western culture.
I disagree with Brett that the traditional model of marriage is obsolete. People who still want that and make the sacrifices to pursue that will be successful and the stats show that kids in that environment will do far better than those raised outside that.
Typical Patrick Bet-David interview, he asks the guest a question then after they give their answer he gives a short summary of the question and the answer he got. Then he begins to correct the guest telling them why they're wrong. But his response is often times confusing and the guest sometimes asks for clarification which seems to irritate him.
I really like Bret and his wife, but the reason they'd never be on The Right is because they, on a fundamental level, disagree with the tragic vision world view of us on The Right. They think that if just smarter people were in charge, things would be better. Yes, they'd be better, but not the exact way they want it to be
I am extremely conservative and I agree wholeheartedly with Dr. Weinstein especially with regard to the environment. I am not a global warming alarmist, but there is evidence and it’s contributed most by china and india.
What should countries do during industrialisation on the road to prosperity
@@christianbridge80 Half right. Calculate how many of your goods and now services come from China and India. Pretty easy to brag about not polluting when somebody else is polluting FOR you.
China and India have done a HUNDRED times more for climate than the federal govenrment. People made the complaint "China is building coal plants" without looking into it and learning that no, China is REPLACING old heavily polluting coal plants wiht new ones that emit one tenth the emissions.
Turns out coal power CAN be done failry cleanly, it just can't be done PROFITABLY. In India they have MOUNTAINS of coal but the country keeps it in the ground because of climate change agreements.
In case you didn't notice China has already SURPASSED us in industrialization, many cities here look like the third world compared to China. A chinese tourist from shanghai will visit appalachia and there is poverty there worse than much of africa.
As they've said for YEARS, the 'green revolution' is now an ECONOMIC necessity, not just an environmental one. And to the original point, even if ONE TENTH of climatologists pointed out what climage was going to do, that should be enough reason to change course. The fact we don't just proves how little actual democracy we have.
@Mike Archibald that's just the tip of the iceberg. We mustn't forget the use of fossil fuels in plastics, concrete production, smelting, creating nitrates and ammonia, where there are no alternatives, plus the amount of of fossil fuels used fir wind and solar. A good book called "How the world really works" by Vaclav Smil goes into detail. Anyway, I am not really worried about co2
@@christianbridge80 The IPCC recommendations don't say ANYTHING about never using fossil fuels ever again in anything.
I"m quite well aware of how the world works, and in particular know how the OIL industry works, and frankly even without climate change that is the most insidious industry ever. If you look at their conduct it borders on outright evil.
@@mikearchibald744 so what do you suggest be done and why would that benefit the world as well as create prosperity?
Rapists will start trying to pro create through rape if abortion is made illegal?
I respect Bret but that has to be one of the dumbest things he has ever said.
Normally I have considered Bret to be a level headed liberal but here I am embarrassed for him.
Theyre touching on some issues that Brett doesn’t speak about. And that’s likely on purpose.
@@AB-qt4dj not it’s not. PBD asked Bret his main beef with conservatives and HE said climate change and traditional families which led into the rape discussion. This wasn’t a “got ya” interview
@@TruthHurtsPraiseGod He didn't say climate change!!! You people aren't even listening to him and are proving his point!!!
@@bmatthews15 I heard him, he didn’t make an argument. He’s just pretending “sCiEnCe” should be accepted blindly. He’s a narcissistic atheist who lives in academic fiction. He’s deluded, but so arrogant he’d never admit it.
Bret, I am a conservative and I agree with you that there is an environmental crisis and it does not have to relate to Climate Change. Most conservatives agree that we need to take care of the environment. I don't believe that conservative communicate this effectively, but if posed, would completely agree with you. Plastics are a huge problem and we have to deal with it.
BW sounds like a dullard here. He's lucky PBD was so gentle with him.
Birth control isn't what destroyed the two parent home. Social welfare did that. Mothers always get the child no matter what. Then there government incentives her having more children (welfare/food stamps/section 8) and penalizes her if she does choose to get married (loss off those benefits). It also penalizes men with the loss of half oftotal assets and child support. They're is absolutely no financial benefit for EITHER sex to get married and it's entirely due to the government. Which is exactly the way democrats want it.
Weinstein always tries to push the ridiculous lefty crap. Even when he cant argue it. Bravo PBD
Im not political but I learned absolutely nothing with this guy.
100 percent agree with that.
Right…he ain’t said a damn thing! 😂
@@EDotHamilton while I was listening to him I was like if someone asked to summarize what he said I couldn’t even answer the question
That's because conservatives are notorious for being low in openness. Meaning you didn't want to learn anything.
None of the positions he thinks are held by conservatives are outdated by decades.
Brett acts like reversion to the mean isn’t basically inevitable in any unsustainable system.
Yes 😔
I think the bigger issue is that the past is what has lead to the present. The right will always lose because your vision for the future can't be the past.
True, but whenever reversion happens, that usually comes about because of a societal/civilizational collapse.
And those situations are very brutal. And should be either avoided or mitigated/diluted to be less harmful for the people involved.
@@EricTitansSmith meh. The right isn’t only looking backwards, nostalgic. There are plenty interested in building a new thing without the entropic limitlessness of leftward drifting ideologies.
@@willia3r I get that there are examples of what you speak. But it’s not always. There history of the world didn’t start at the enlightenment.
Compare this convo to Pakman is crazy. Bret is a guy I disagree with but also have respect for and can find common ground.
Politically , socially, financially , all of the above , the old system is falling .. God has his hand in everything . It will ultimately force us to change
Sex is not the biggest motivator in the universe. The desire to create is. Look around at the world built at the hands of highly motivated men… for thousands and thousands of years across all the world. It was built by Men that desire to build and produce and make things better. The desire to create came from our Creator and sex is but a tiny subset of the creation drive sewn into the fabric of a man’s soul. There’s a reason why the worth of a man is judged by his ability to produce.
Yes, sex is a principle expression of creation.
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Welcome!
He's right that birth control changed everything because you could just go out and have all the sex you want without the consequence of having a child. But people are still having children out of wedlock the birth rates of out-of-wedlock children is through the roof which means they're not on birth control and they're not using it otherwise they wouldn't be having all these children. Me that kind of contradicts itself.
And the whole thing about climate change and environment, I mean we can all get behind having a good clean environment. But when the left uses nonsensical crap that we're going to replace fossil fuel with windmills and solar they're just talking out their ass on that one. But next new breakthrough energy hasn't arrived yet to replace fossil fuel. Maybe it will one of these days and it'll be clean energy that has as much output or equal output as fossil fuel.
We will go back as soon as times get financially tough or a major war breaks out
A just society wouldn't murder a baby for the crimes of it's father.
The end point made on this clip is entirely accurate.
The way the "pandemic" was handled (orchesteated), our society and it's political structure wasn't ready for it.
The tools of open communication when combined with how philosophically, spiritually, and ethically unadvanced we are, simply are too dangerous for the types of global tensions the world rests upon, but not only that but also the ways in which medieval modes of political spin, manipulation, cloak and dagger subterfuge, and the push for neo-fuedalism operates, it will only further exacerbate tensions at the micro and macro scales of all nations.
We cannot have a world that is this technologically naive, the wealth imbalance created by the digital tech companies will lead further into a divided society of the technological ruling class, and technologically illiterate serf class.
This has always been the aim of authoritarian industrialists such as Schwab, and the WEF Fabian Socialists.
The progressivism of technology creates the unnatural imbalances to both ecology, economy, and biology when we don't give enough time for staged, sage, and sensible introduction and from a more cautious perspective, that approach is incompatible with free market capitalism.
As E.O. Wilson aptly says "The real problem for humanity is that we have Paleolithic emotions, Medieval institutions, and Godlike technology. And it is terrifically dangerous, and now approaching a point of crisis overall."
If humans are to survive, we will need someone like the comedian from watchmen to show us the futility of our current ambitions - hopefully without the violence
Money, youth and power are all fleeting ambitions
I only come here to see how smart people like PBD are still shilling bs
Disagree. They were ready for it. And it's actually going EXACTLY how they wanted to for the most part. Out political system is a joke. It was never meant to "Handle" crisis. Just take more control over people in times of it.
Would you mind elaborating on how things are becoming neo-feudal? It's an interesting concept.
around the 20:00 minute mark -like a bolt of lightning this awesome intellect shines. [thanks Pat& Adam ]
Very good,and important conversation.
He's painting in broad strokes, which I feel like are often stereotypical generalizations.
I am betting anything that humanity will loose against mother nature
I really need to stop watching clips from Patrick. Bret spells it out pretty clearly. That there is a difference between the "Climate Change" agenda and the environmental crisis that we can all see with our own two eyes. Then Patrick's first response is "that conservatives don't have climate change as their priority, is that what you are saying?" Then Bret repeats the difference, saying he believes the activism about "Climate Change" is dubious. Then Patrick mentions it again. Literally proving Bret's point that he can't get behind conservatives because they want to throw the baby out with the bath water. Which means conservatives are not a willing ally to find solutions for real environmental problems because they are too busy fighting the left over something entirely different.
Even tho I disagree with Bret on most issues he’s extremely well spoken and interesting
Just well spoken enough to be dangerous.
@@S0RELOSER exactly, the insidious pied piper.
@@S0RELOSER Good point. Bret is a really dangerous guy because he speaks well
@@justopinions5919 why does he forget countries like poland and russia...they have normal families regardless of the pill....usa media and schools cause this
@@lebowe6131
Russia and Poland have extremely low fertility rates and extremely low fertility rates is not based at all!
And yet Bret wants to have conservatives pay for it… smh…
The only happy couples I know, including me, credit conservative gender roles for their happy relationships.
"I'm the man and I will take responsibility for EVERYTHING, including my woman, but I am in charge. You, the woman deserve my complete loyalty, trust and sacrifice."
Happy
I find the opposite to be true, that's the funny thing about personal experience, it's not a accurate indicater of reality.
Just because Bret speaks slowly doesn’t mean he is smart. He said a lot of words without saying anything. Word salad. 👎
Rapes of vulnerable minors are covered up by abortions. Sometimes they enable the abuser to continue the abuse. We recently saw the example in Ohio (11years old I think), a representative discussed her experience, I had a personal experience with abortion covering up deeper issues. I think the rape excuse is counter productive, and might hurt more than it helps.
This is obvious, evidenced by how bringing the grapi st to justice is never mentioned - not even as an afterthought - in the pro-abortion rape argument.
I think that had that particular story not been a national news, that poor girl would still be getting grap ed on a daily basis today.
As they say, if you are against abortion, don't have one. Move on.
Bret needs to watch Fresh n Fit. In all seriousness, Bret is spending way too much time around Progressives and is completely out of touch with conservatives.
The problem with abortions/family courts/child custody is simple. It bails women out of every bad choice and it does not force women to properly vet men. By vet, I mean, mentally, morally, socially, and financially. We live in a system where women are focusing on a smaller and smaller portion of men - that have no desire to marry them. Meanwhile the rest of the men who don't have relationships or have sex in any capacity, are working in an increasingly unfair and hostile system towards men, and paying taxes for social services that women want and primarily use. So we have a larger and larger portion of the male population that is losing any sort of connection with the system....The system which is punishing them and stealing their wealth more and more every day. So now we have an ever increasing amount of men in society, that pay higher and higher taxes, don't get laid, don't have kids, and can't start a family...because society has told women that they can have sex with whoever they want, and no matter what happens, the rest of the men will pick up the tab, pay for their delinquent baby, pay for the police to arrest the future teenager when he becomes a criminal, and so on and so forth - all while these women are low key hostile to men in the real world, social media, and on TV. Make no mistakes, women have co-opted our system to liberate their sexuality and Western men have allowed it to happen. The end result is going to be millions and millions of disenfranchised men that have no future and no investment in the world. In the end, our society will be over ran by more masculine men from third world countries or it will be burn to the ground from within.
I find Bret interesting, but he is institutionalized by higher ed beyond the point of rationality
Yes we can go back. There is no feminism when the power goes out.
I continually watch videos like this in hopes to understand the Socialist/Progressive Mindset. After watching dozens of these types of guests, I am even further separated from any breakthrough insights. What I am closer to, is a dedication for fully anchoring myself to the foundation of the Moral Precepts that make us Human and a wholesale rejection of ALL Liberal Ideals that constantly prove to be insane, indecent & uncivilized.
Same. The more I understand them the more revolting they are.
Your belief system has a LOT more in-common with the Taliban than you should ever be comfortable with....
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Comparing MY beliefs to those of Brutal Tyrannical Extremists is a clear indicator of what little grasp you have on Ideologies.
Please Try Again.
@@marcfalsetti9381 "Brutal Tyrannical Extremists" is subjective....if people like YOU had your way, they'd be throwing homosexuals off of rooftops like they do legally in Iran...people like YOU would use your religion to codify all Laws over society, just like the Taliban. Theocracy ordained by the God of Abraham. The ONLY difference is the severity of the punishment for what you deem 'sin'....that is all.
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Love how you tightly package & define Christian Conservativism. We like to call Liberals who do this as "Dunderclumpers" ~
Your desent into Moral Deprivation is clearly noted.
And your embrace of an "Anything Goes" Society is comical, but frightening.
You are free to pursue debasement to your hearts content, but me and my kind will always be available for advice on how to Save You From Yourself. (No Exclamation Point)
I am christian and conservative ... love to listen to Bret !!
But many christians are dumb down.
I learned early in my life with God, to read the bible for myself:
because one group said this and an other group said exactly the ipposite.
So I got interested in what God would think about something.... BOOM I got suprising answers
shook my worldview, my life.... God is alive and speaks for himself !!!
When mentioning the date/incest exception for abortion to a Christian Conservative woman I knew years ago, she almost took my head off in confronting me on it.
Now, 2 Things:
1. She wasn't as "conservative" as she portrayed herself to be in public, i.e. her actions didn't add up to the narrative she was selling about herself. She was moderate and a bit liberal in other beliefs / values.
2. Even though she is very conservative on abortion ( none ever ), there does seem to be an increasing disagreement among Conservatives on variations of Pro Life positions. IMO, that is a good thing the Left has done to underscore greater compassion for the victim. ( Gotta give credit where it's due. Also, the Left has overlooked millions upon millions of aborted babies. Those victims don't matter, so there's that as well. )
We certainly don’t want to embolden rapists by extending to them parental rights, which sadly, has happened.
Don't worry, men barely have parental rights anyway.
12:10 exactly. And we have laws against murder so where do those laws begin to take effect? At birth? So premmies are okay to kill? It's clearly conception. I'm anti religious and I can see the logic there and I cannot see it in the pro choice side. YES if a woman is raped she should not be forced to create that child. But that's like 0.1 percent of abortion. What people like me and those religious zealots you speak of are concerned about is how the pro choice side makes abortion seem like average contraceptive with no emphasis on waiting to fuck or using condoms or any of that. Seems the pro choice side has decided that it's natural for kids to wanna fuck so let em go at it. It's destroying the natural social structure that maintained the overall structure of human societies for all of their known existence. And birth control... Are we not gonna acknowledge how birth control fucks up a woman's hormones? I like bret but he seems to think we live outside of nature. I think changes creep up before they happen and we are witnessing the creepage.
This guys is lost in his own argument...
Exactly.
If we can't go back, let's normalize women being the bread winners and I can stay home
I think PBD put more pressure than JRE . And I’m glad , because it showed the holes in his philosophy .
Like what, exactly?
Please tell us these holes ?
As a 31 y/o American woman, I’d like to have children with a partner, but none of my jobs (med device sales, neurology clinic director, senior project management) in the past ten years has offered paid maternity leave, and the healthcare costs of pregnancy and birth are insane here even with insurance.
But, unless I get at least a partner, my ability to own a home is pretty nonexistent. So I need a partner to live a certain way. If I have a partner, I’d like children, but every part of that process has gotten so financially expensive.
Patrick David is a phenomenal interviewer. He seems to always expose all these experts from the left, right, and center as having illogical and non-rational (may it be slight or extreme) political and social biases of some sort. Brilliant! Keep up the good work.
In software development if a new feature does not work we rollback as well. I do not understand this perspective that we can not go back if something is not working.
I, too, work in software development - and you are correct - if something is not working, we roll back. The problem with this analogy, is that there are 300+ million people in the U.S. alone that don't necessarily believe that things aren't working, or if they do, they don't agree on what, specifically, is not working, or if they do, they do not agree on how to fix what's not working. Unfortunately, in this clip, Weinstein did not sufficiently identify what the disagreements are, or why the proposed solutions are not working. Effectively, he said "there's something fundamentally wrong in the relationships between men and women," then says "but we cannot go backward."
I generally lean fairly conservative (in modern times, I'd probably be considered far right...but I think I'm fairly moderate to right-leaning), but this conversation was very ambiguous and did not seem to capture conservative arguments very well (a little bit, but not very well). As an example (so that I'm not ambiguous), when he talks about the relationship between men and women, is he talking about "women in the workplace," the "gender pay gap," "rape culture," "abortion," "nature vs nurture," "men as head of household," "men doing dangerous jobs," or any of the other myriad of ways men and women inhabit the world? PBD is a great interviewer, and really does like to break down arguments from both sides (I give him credit for that), AND he has the added bonus of staying calm and keeping is interviewees calm, this was a superficial conversation at best.
I haven't met a conservative yet that doesn't care about the environment. And the lack of traditional family structures is why our society is collapsing. Y'all seem to think we want dumb wives, barefoot at home... my stay-at-home wife is educated beyond me! 😂 And she worked for a few years but now does an at-home Business that's doing quite well. Where do you get your info Brett?