DT900 Pro X The headphone Beyerdynamic did not want me to have - Design review
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- čas přidán 5. 11. 2021
- Today I take a looks at the design of the new DT900 Pro X taking a look at how they are constructed and see what nice new design features they have.
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companies that allow easy repair are a win in my book
Yes - there needs to be more of that kind of thing
THIS IS AMAZING!
Gotta love Beyerdynamic!
Yes - I love the repair-ability on their pro stuff
You know he is going to open them up when he is wearing the Freddy Krueger shirt
LOL ;)
Bought these a few weeks ago to accompany my HD25 that I use outdoor and for DJ-ing. I love them. Build like a tank and they sound quite neutral which I like for home production use.
We have sold a lot of 700 and 900 pro X recently, they must be gaining popularity
@@CustomCans @CustomCans I can imagine. They look stylish and are quite comfortable as well. I'm still curious how you would mod these though. Besides a balanced mini-XLR I can't think of much to improve on the 900 Pro X tbh. It's not that they have the bump in the high ends that the older open models have that you might want to compensate for.
Great video. Glad I bought these on release day.
Enjoy! ;)
Really enjoy your vids. Keep it up 👍
Thanks 👍
Great tear down, really appreciate you doing this stuff. I hope to see what potential mods you come up with in the future.
We probably won't be modding these for quite a while as I don't want to get told off by our beyer rep
Ok.. sold bought a pair.. thanks for the review.
Enjoy!
wow that was amazing🤯
Hay wonderful video.
Will be following this ch from now on.
I have the dt990 will look at your mod video.
Thanks keep up the great work.
Thanks ;)
Nice review thanks brov 🔊🎧🔊
I want that Freddy Krueger jumper! Great video man.
Beyerdynamic better not fall asleep or I will dismantle their headphones in their dreams
The 80's headphones look of the 990's is amazing change my mind
There is a certain brutal functional beauty to them. A bit like 80s Volvos.. they just look solid ... No messing around
Beyerdynamics has some really good timeless design in general I would say. And I completely agree.
im buying these tomorrow :3
Love the driver design and the mini XLR jack. I just did a DT 990 Mini XLR conversion today and it was a Pita getting the tiny wires soldered and creating space for the connector. I just wish this didn't come at a $100 premium since it doesn't really cost them that much to create these. The plastic headband is kinda disappointing. What I love on the 770/990 models is how it's just a piece of spring steel with padding, so nothing that can actually break. The only thing that tends to break on those models are the plastic bits on the side for the clicker mechanism.
So glad that they added a removable cable though, that was my biggest gripe with the 770/990 series.
Yes, they are trying to go for a slightly different market with these. I quite like the "built like a tank" look of the DT990 and 770 but it is not for everyone ;)
Woow, coole design. Great job beyerdynamic. And great viedeo, THANKS for sharing it with us.
Would like to see you drag apart an Focal Celestee or Elegia ... or both :-D
I think I will have to wait until I have a few more subscribers before I can afford to do that but maybe one day ;)
I know the Elegia has a diamond diffuser pattern on the inside of the cup. I kinda want to get a 700 and 900 x along with a 3D printer to try doing the same thing in these. Maybe also try to find a different material to put in front of the driver. These look pretty good for modding.
nice tear-down, thx
Thanks
Was waiting for this review! Thanks! Have you tried DT 700 Pro X? Would be cool to make a comparison between these models. Sound and comfort.
I probably won't be getting the DT700 Pro X until I can convince beyerdynamic to sell them to us directly so... maybe not until next year but I am sure there are lots of other reviews out there comparing them
Freddy Krueger called.. he wants his sweater back.
in his dreams.....
first time coming across your channel,what kind of Mods do you guys do?
Awesome work you make Jason!!! looking forward to hear your opinion about the 700 pro X and how they sound. DMS says little audio detail, due to that thick pad in front of the driver, very thick. Those proprietary earpads, not my cup of tea. Maybe an adapter is possible to normal pads? I would really need these balanced, my amp no good SE. I would prefer though, double 3 pin, or just like Audeze, to share the cable. Or regular double 3.5mm jack... cable to both sides not bad, one side much cooler, of course, but double side to make it more "compatible" with existing cables... much more sustainable, right? Thanks a million.
We have been asked not to do work on the new Pro X range so you won't see any balanced ones from us in the near future ... Maybe next year, we will have to see
Awesome Video on these! And super detailed teardown. Do you think it would be very simple to convert them to balanced? Given how everything is built in there.
It should be possible - I will give it a go this weekend and upload a video
Great review Jason, but i couldn't help seeing the HE 400 there dam they look good. Only wish andromida would export the HE6SE to the UK, i'd have you mod them in a heart beat, lol.
Yeh - they are looking pretty good now and sounding even batter - Hopefully next week I will have all the updated files for people to print and try. As for the HE6SE... The mods were designed specifically to tune the HE400se and would need to be redesigned for different models so it is probably not something we will be doing on other models at the moment.
Jason, you should be called a "phone surgeon" 😁.
Awesome video, really helpful to see the inside components of these cans, especially since I would be too nervous myself to do such a thing haha! By any chance have you found a way to remove the hinges? My DT700's hinges seem to be slightly loose compared to the first day I got them (I could feel a very slight wiggle with a bit of twisting force), wondering if anyone is experiencing the same thing? Aside from the hinges I would agree that these cans are built like tanks!
No, I have not had a chance to investigate the hinges further and probably won't play with them again until I am officially allowed to mod them
Funny watching Freddy Kruger doing a headphone review lol
I will enter your nightmares to review your headphones
Intresting insight, thanks! I have 2 questions: So you close some holes of the 990 and 1990 to get better bass response, did i get this right? Do you have any thoughts on the TYGR 300 (the "gaming" 990) ?
I probably over simplified it a bit - the 990 and 1990 also have a lot of the inside of the earcup closed - closing up the holes will probably give a little more sub bass but you will lose something somewhere else in the frequency range - it is one of those things you have to do a lot of trial and error with to get right. I do have some TYGR 300 on the shelf for a future video but it may not be until after xmas now as we are very busy at the moment
@@CustomCans Thanks for the info. I subscribed so i wont miss if you decide to make a video about it.
Great review. Do you now offer a modded version of these?
We are not selling them pre-modded but we can accept send in ones for modding
i bought a dt 700 pro x, what would i need to convert them to balance and also accepts single similar to your dt 770 mod? rewiring and changing the 3 pin to 4 pin ? Awesome video btw, i really like your reviews especially the deep dive :D
Thanks, Yes you just need to swap the 3 pin for a 4 pin - it is pretty easy on the pro x range
Love to see how they modular. Do you think there's anyway to rotate that mini xlr connector like 90 degrees? There's an aftermarket boom mic with the mini-xlr, but because the way the connector is it stays below the chin.
No not without a bit of modification - the hole is D shaped and the socket has a flat side to stop it from spinning - you would have to drill out the hole and then you can have it at any angle
@@CustomCans That's what I thought, but thanks!!
Nice review, good to see you approve of them. Do you know/sell a Mini XLR to Female 3.5 jack that doesn't stick out 2 inches?
We don't sorry. I am not sure if we could make one cost effectively but I will look into it
@@CustomCans Great Video, thx! I would love to use the Beyerd. Custom Microfon (with the 3.5mm jack) with these and I am looking for a Mini XLR to 3.5mm female jack since days. I can't believe such a thing doesn't exist! I am close to build one by myself without any expierience in soldering. Also searching for a mod of these Headphones with 3.5mm jack. Any ideas?
I wonder if these can be modded in a way a plate can be press on the back of the cups or a twist on and twist off type thing, so it can be a universal closed back and open back headphones.
Probably ;) There is probably a lot of tweaking and testing to do to get it to sound right
Can you connect the Beyerdynamic 3,5 Headset gear Microphone to it trough a MINI XLR TO 3,5 adapter ?
Yes
Is the system bow replaceable? From the video, it didn't seem like you were able to get it off the earcup.
Probably - I just have not figured out how to do it yet ;)
You can get the DT 990 in 80 Ohms! Wuhuu! But only in Black... Don't ask me why. (The cable is different too)
And straight away I'm curios to hear how they sound without the dust cover in front of the drivers restricting the sound 😊
I will have to do another Video on them ing so mods ... I think I have left it long enough after launch that beyerdynamic will not be upset
Have you tried putting that foam disk on the 770s?
No, not yet but I may give it a go at some point
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Please tell me which is better for your hearing: 900 pro x or hifiman he 400se v2
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I am not good at comparing headphones as they each have their advantages. Personally I prefer the HE400se with the super grilles we sell installer
Hi, just a quick one.
Can you remove the metal spring from the top pand and would it reduce the clamp of the headphones?
I really like the sound but they absolutely crush my Jaw 😂
I have not tested that, I think the spring comes out from what I remember, it would probably work
@@CustomCans OK I'll take a look on my set and will see if it will have any effect ... thanks
It's interesting to me how Beyer seems to use almost exclusively front damping in their headphones (admittedly I've only seen this and the 770), when that's the opposite of my approach when modding stuff. I like to do low volume, high absorption rear damping and then keep the front as clear as possible - I'm not an engineer by any means so it's just a gut feeling in my case, but I find it just sounds more natural with the rear damping approach.
In my 770, I removed the little cotton-felt-ish ring around the driver "stand" in the cup and lined the back and sides instead using different materials, which seemed to clear up the sound a decent bit while also cutting sibilance.
For context, I started modding headphones with Fostex' TH/Denon's AH-D line of headphones and found the stock "just shove a big wad of cotton on top of the driver" approach to be really unsatisfactory, hence the experimentation with lining the cups instead. Seems to translate well to the 770 so far, though I am definitely wanting to experiment more there also.
on the 770, the driver has a plastic disc on the back of the magnet with some damping in but yes... I prefer to get stuff inside the earcup and leave the front open on a lot of headphones as well
The 880 and 990 have more damping inside the earcup. Here is a vid you may find interesting
czcams.com/video/FplFbUDVqm8/video.html
@@CustomCans just had a look at the video - very interesting how subtle but meaningful some of the changes there are, just makes me want to play around with my 770 even more. you mentioned a connection between the little crown stand of the 770 driver and the bass, is that because it transfers more force to the rest of the chamber for extra resonance/low end rumble? makes me wonder if this headphone could actually be modded to become almost the opposite of what it is stock, between that and cup damping (and ofc pad swaps)
man if I had the money to throw around I'd get another one or two just for modding them different directions and a stock one for reference.. definitely can see why you've stuck with them for so long. this hobby isn't for the faint of heart/those with a dry bank account
Thx for your vid. Should I get 48 ohms or 250, I plan to plug it into a Mac mini.
I think all the Pro X headphones are 48ohm at them moment and will work fine with a mac mini
@@CustomCans Just subscribed, tx
Do I need to mod this to get balance or I can just change the cable and get a balance cable?
Sorry new this stuff might just get the dt 1990 since I have friend selling it that is modded with balance cable
These need to be modded to convert them to balanced. The socket in the earcup is 3pin one and you need 4 wires for balanced
@@CustomCans thank you so much brother
hi im hoping some1 can answer me , does the dt 900 work good without an amp and do they get loud enough??
Yes, I would say they work well without an amp. I have run them off a mobile phone and laptop. They were loud enough and sounded great. But.... they will also scale well so if you do use them with an amp they sound even better
Randomly Jeff Bezoz giving out exact addresses of people
Sir i m currently running a shitty earphones m thinking of getting a new headphones but m not sure which i m a huge pink floyd fan and m comfused around Sennheiser hd 560s akg k702 and beyerdynamic 880 pro (250) all these 3 are basically of same cost here in india
I think i can spare some cash and get some ifi zen air dac amp combo as it is cheap
I will be greatfull as you are one of that actually know the sound signature and what could be the best
Love to hear your input
Regards
I am not the best person to ask but they 880 would probably be my choice
What happens to the sound if you remove the gray cover? THANKS
You get extra peaks in the treble
@@CustomCans Thank you very much for your kind response!
@@CustomCans i thought "extra peaks in the treble" are what beyer are know for!!
i support beyerdynamic
Next mod video, fix the treble spike? And balanced
It is one of those fearure vs fault things - the treble peak is part of the beyerdynamic sound signature ;) But we have toned it down on a few models in the past. Unfortunately we probably won't be tackling it on the DT900 and DT700 for quite some time as we have too many other projects in the queue
@@CustomCans subscribed, can't wait to see what you have queued
i bought the DT 900 Pro x a week and a half ago how long do they take to ship anyone know havent even got my shipping tracking yet. I got them on the beyrdynamic website
This time of year there tend to be delays - if the local warehouse has run out then they have to come from Germany
hi you have perfect videos I want to buy headphones what you prefer I m a producer and dj dt 990 pro or dt 900x I have also sound card audit id 44 mk2 what you prefer two choice I have dt990 or dt 900x
We did a comparison of them in the video below
czcams.com/video/jSmzmcHPQcY/video.html
Hi....what Headphones would you recommend for home studio....200 quid range....cheers.
It depends on whether you want open or closed.
If you want open, you could pick up some used HD600 or K712
We make a modified version of the HE400se which is pretty special in that pric range.
For closed, we have a new modded version for the DT770 coming out this week which is really good ( new video should be up Later today ) or the DT700 pro X or maybe T50PR
I am sure there are other good options but I have not listened to all of them
@@CustomCans any price's or website I can view.cheers.
@@chrissquires7081
Here are a couple of links to our shop
jfunk.org/wpc/product/modified-hifiman-he400se-deeper-punchier-bass-and-wider-sound-stage-copy/
jfunk.org/wpc/product-category/home/headphones/beyerdynamic-2/dt770/
What about a mic mod?
I guess a ModMic won’t really stick to these „rounded“ cabinets?
(is that the right word?)
I have not tried it but it is not too curved so I reckon it would stick on OK
I can confirm my ModMic sticks on very well on my DT 900 Pro X. I did put it on the edge of the earcup near the Mini XLR tho which have more surface area
I have my Modmic Wireless stuck smack dab in the middle of the right cup. It's perfect, could stick it anywhere on the housing
Now I know why Beyerdynamics didn't wanna give you one...they knew you'd open them up
i have amp/dac fiio k5 pro can i use the dt 900 with the k5 ?
Yes - that will work fine
@@CustomCans but the dt 900 it is just 48 ohm and the k5 pro have so much power is that ok ?
Yeh just don't crank the power until they blow ;) We were using them with some big powerful amps, just start with the volume low and bring it up to your desired level and you will be fine but I suspect they can handle quite a lot of power before they blow...
@@CustomCans ok thank you bro for helping me
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ya and No 3th party earpads for DT700 and 900 Pro X also i just talked to Dekoni they said they are Not working on any pads for them Beyerdynamic Dosn't allow them
which is very stupid btw the headband on the DT700 and 900 Pro X is thinner and not as comfortable as DT770, 880 and 990 atleast on DT1990 and 1770 you can swap the headband with DT770 headband plus you can use 3th party earpads Beyerdynamic just made these new headphones Big No No for me
I have not seen any 3rd part pads yet. I know from experience that there needs to be a lot of headphones out in the wild before it becomes cost effective to design,test and make 3rd party pads for them. So... you may see some eventually if these sell well. From what I remember the headbands are not interchangeable but you could probably wrap a cover round the headband.
Eh? We still talking about cans, Mr Bond?
If I ever become "youtube famous" one day I plan on using the money to build a secret lair in a hollowed out volcano with it's own monorail.
@@CustomCans I can sell you a volcano.
the quality is 360p. Kinda good ngl.
Yes - i think youtube is still processing the video - should look better later on today
I thought you bought this pair of headphones yourself? then you can do with it what you want. Beyerdynamic can ask for what they want, you don't have to listen to them.
We are now allowed to play with them and have modded ones available for sale. But... Back when this was filmed we were not allowed to stock them as they were exclusive to certain retailers. It is always best to play nicely with your suppliers if you fancy getting a discount off stuff in the future ;)
@@CustomCans :) OK.
I guess disregard my email if you haven’t gotten too deep into these and the 700s yet. :)
No - We have too many other projects on and Beyer still don't want us messing with them
Are you employed by Beyer? They should have no control over what you do.
They asked me nicely not to mess with them for a while. They have done me a lot of favours in the past so I was OK with that. They have just got in tough and said we can now start modding them so we may be doing some work on them soon
had some DT990s a few years back and though they felt like junk and sounded meh
Now the Hifiman Planars are my jam.
Maybe it could be fun to give Beyer another change. I also have not yet had the HD600 to listen to but I feel like they dont match my library anyways.
Yeh, you may like the DT900, they have a more balanced sound than the 990. Or if you are looking at HD600, we do a mod for them to give them more sub bass and bass detail
We did a quick comparison of the beyers here
czcams.com/video/jSmzmcHPQcY/video.html