The True Story of Thorfinn Karlsefni | Vinland Saga
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- Thorfinn Karlsefni was an explorer and trader that was born in the late 10th century in Iceland. Born Thorfinn Thordarson, this Icelandic aristocrat who was the descendant of Kings, led one of the Norse expeditions to Vinland, which was an area of coastal North America. Many sagas speak about the deeds of Thorfinn such as the Saga of the Greenlanders and he is a chief subject in the Saga of Erik the Red. Many of you may know Thorfinn from the show Vinland Saga, however, today we will delve into the real life of this royal blooded adventurer. This is his story.
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
00:50 Chapter 1 - Early Life
02:18 Chapter 2 - An Extraordinary Journey
05:01 Chapter 3 - Encounters with the Indigenous
07:39 Chapter 4 - After Vinland
All Credit for the Music goes to: Savfk - Music
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Sources: The Saga of Erik the Red
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If you've only seen the anime, just know there's actual manga spoilers in this video due to the similarities with the real life Thorfinn.
Thank you, I'll put this on my watch later playlist.
Good thing I checked the comments. Life saver!!
Lifesaver here, thannks
holyyyyy shit thank you lol.
!!You are a legend
Amazing. Thorfinn sailed into the unknown to escape war and bloodshed and when he found them both in the new world he turned around and went home to try for a life free of war and bloodshed. Legendary.
I think the author of Vinland Saga kind of fused a lot of characters into his story's version of Thorfinn. Which is admittedly hard to craft.
A pregnant woman wielding a sword seems scary, though!
Thank you so much for watching!!! I hope you enjoyed the video!
Probably did. He went to Iceland to research Norse history and sagas
A naked woman wielding a sword would be like that "Nekked Grandma" on Family Feud. The natives made the right decision. Ain't nobody wanna see that.
Pregnant means easy target
@@user-bm5ht8ze2t man you made a serious sense into a comedy 😂
The first thing I see on youtube is The Real Thorfinn Karlsefni, just as it should be. Excellent story and narration. Thanks once again, Ollie!
Thank you so much for watching Jared!
Same here lol
Vinland Saga is good story. It is incredible.
Indeed it is!!
Until author starts throwing crap like trans-son of Torkell.
@@user-od7hh8qg9d oh no, don't tell me...
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@@CoolGuy-fw2zz ❄❄
I have read some texts that speculate that in addition to the oxen breaking loose and frightening the indigenous peoples of Vinland, some scholars think that the dairy products Thorfinn’s people traded to the indigenous peoples may have given the latter severe lactose-intolerance symptoms, and potentially caused the indigenous people to suspect the settlers had been trying to poison them. Does that also come from the Icelandic Sagas or does that argument by scholars/historians come from a different source?
now that tickles my mind.
It makes sense that they wouldn't tolerate milk products, as native Americans actually are linked to Asiatics.
@@Bahamut3525 Also the majority of people in the world are lactose-intolerant in general. A random human is more likely going to be not able to digest dairy as an adult than able.
@@TheoVorster Yes. However most Europeans especially Nordic Germanic are lactose tolerant. They are evolved in Northern climate to eat flesh and milk, as crops do not grow well historically.
@@Bahamut3525 Oh yes I know, I just meant it shouldn't surprising to us that the indigenous people of Vinland/Americas were (and majority are) lactose intolerant simply due to lactose intolerance (as an adult) being the default for most humans.
Thanks for making a video about my 27th great grandfather
Thats amazing! Thank you so much for watching!
You should watch Vinland Saga, I can't imagine how cool it would be to watch knowing you were one of their descendants lol
That's so freaking cool I also want you to really watch the series lol just imagine
So average about 33 years per generation across 1000 years. Wow.
bro can say hes literally thorfinn fr
【Light Heads Finland】 I commend this Vinland Saga / Real counterpart series you have very much ! I knew that Thorfinn was based on a real person but had no idea about Thorkel The Tall, it's so nice to learn new interesting things about history while waiting for new episodes of Vinland Saga to pump up the historical facts / characters / life in general that's in the past
I loved this video, and many others you presented to us. Your narration is spotless! Hope your channel continues to grow each day! Thank you History Profiles
Thank you so much for watching Elke! I hope you enjoyed the video!
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I always enjoyed your videos since your beginning. Thank you
A perfect video thank you so much!
This video was so good, I did not know any if this, brilliant story and so interesting too
This was amazing
Thank you !
Great video!
Thank you for watching!
Looking forward to viewing this on the tv screen.
Edit:Finally enjoying the video.
Adventurous.
Amazing and entertaining.
Another true historical tale.
Pssst. I have gone back to your other videos and enjoying them on the big screen. ❤️🥰😘
Thank you so much for watching Agapy! That really means a lot! I hope your enjoying the videos on the big screen!
Glad your including this anime m8 good read and watch
Its crazy how the show Vikings: Valhalla connects with the Vinland Saga. Love it.
I know right! I've been researching if Thorfinn Karlsefni and Leif Erickson were connected, turns out they were.
Amazing video , this one picture looks kind of anime but whatever , the channel is great !
Because its from the anime Vinland Saga. Thorfinn is the main character
I mean the name of the anime Vinland Saga is in the title of the video. And it says 'the real thorfinn', implying there is a fictional version... Elementary watson
you're telling me when the natives surrounded her, she took a sword off of a dead body, undid her shirt to show she was big and pregnant, then slapped the sword against her bare breast? Yeah no one would fight that in their right mind.
I think when depicting the natives, it would be better to not use Aztec imagery considering they're 6000km+ apart
i hope this doesnt actually spoil the ending of vinland saga
Thorfinn dies 🥺🥺🥺
@Bobby Estes Nah I was lying
@Bobby Estes the manga hasn’t even ended lol and he is in fact not dead
@Bobby Estes he died to Covid and turned into a female
In the manga he arrives in vinland later than the IRL one. So, it could change.
Crazy how Thorfinn is related to bjorn ironside
Lol it’s not that strange, weren’t that many Scandinavians back then so all of them have noble blood at some point. I’m apparently descended from Sigurd-Snake-in-the-eye.. 😅
The whole thing with the natives is currently happening in the manga for vinland saga
I’m sonpissedd Vinland saga is finally getting recognition! This is one of the best anime to come out in years!!!
Getting spoiled by actual history now.
I like your video and I love Vinland Saga, profiling the Vinland Saga character as I learn more about the real character behind the series.. how about Askelad or Lucius Artorius Castus is he a real person or just fictional character?
Have same questions 😅✌️
Askeladd was roughly based on Olaf Hoskuldsson, whose slave mother was in fact an Irish princess, instead of Welsh.
Land-nama book, not landama… It means Land Taking Book and is a record of who settled where and claimed what piece of land.
No! Karlsefni is ‘karls-evne’ meaning 'a skilled mans ability’. He got the byname as a boy, because he already could do a mans work then…
Karl = man Efni = material
@@K0bbii Karl = skilful man Efni = ability
@@Hallands. Efni does not mean ability, I believe you’re confusing it with hæfni. Karl doesn’t necessarily mean “skillful man”, just “man” is the general translation since karl is short for karlmaður. Karlsefni is typically regarded as meaning “the makings of a man”, which as an Icelander, I’d agree is the most correct translation without being too direct with it. If his nickname were karlshæfni I’d think it a bit strange.
@@noi9982 Well, I was taught what I related in school, but I don’t know Icelandic myself. But frankly „the makings of a man“ said about some fully grown man sounds like a slight - like if I said about Magnus Carlsen „he has great potential as a chess player“…
@@Hallands. I don’t see the issue with it, it is still complimentary to call a “fully grown man” manly, since masculinity is an inherent pride in men. It’s just an acknowledgment, it doesn’t stop being flattering after you grow up. Remember this was a thousand years ago as well, nobody knows where he earned the name karlsefni but it’s typically theorized that he earned it somewhere in his travels meaning he probably did something extraordinary. Something only rare men would or could do. Enough for people to define him as having the true makings of a man.
Thorfinn to the natives: "I have no enemies"... probably
The real story is way more amazing than the anime
It upset me that it takes Japanese to get these stories out
Japanese are not woke. Modern West doesn't respect Western history and certainly not proud White historical figures.
It's all about Black history month these days.
Vikings tv show says otherwise
@@youszz6606 Netflix did a great comedy spin on Vikings
you should cover Drifters anime.
So this makes it look like thorfinn in the manga will leave the lnu tribe alone and the future of miste pwique will be settled thanks to him and Einard.
#SPOILERS gaawsch!
In all seriousness, what a channel. Keep it up sir, love it!
Thank you so much for watching!
Isn’t there an anime about Vinland? Or am I trippin with memory.
Nvm the OP included it at the end 😛
there's a manga about it too
Hey uh at around 5:27 you use pictures of Aztec warriors from Central America. Incredibly different weapons and clothing!! Also a bull did not chase off Thorfinn's company. Its debated whether someone reached for an ax or not, but Thorfinn and his company killed 8 out of the 9 men the found in the canoes. Freydis was also scolded for being "unwomanly."
What is more real human lore accurate Vinland saga or the live action show Vikings?
I think we know now what's going to happened in the manga. (prediction).
Columbus left the chat! :D
Vinland is Newfoundland ?
do you think he had any enemies
No, he had no enemies
Did this guy already made a video of the real musashi from vagabond?
I could be wrong but I believe musashi isn't real, I think takehiko inoue got inspiration for vagabond from the novel about a fictional character named musashi, if I'm not wrong, vagabond is just like his own interpretation of the story but I could be wrong and this could just be bullshit, sorry lol
@CUXILLO_GUEY Miyamoto Musashi was in fact a real person. But you also have a point the premises of the manga was inspired by the real Musashi but that's an alias that he picks up later in the manga. The real Miyamoto Musashi was a Philosopher after being a Ronin for a few years among other things but most notably he had the most duels recorded and won obviously 🤣. He highlights all his duels in the "book of the five rings" which started as scrolls and letters but was later published for public readers and scholars. It's a great read I'd recommend it. It emphasizes how martial arts can be applied to more than one discipline so he sought to master more than one profession by implementing different types of discipline from the 5 elements.
Wait so how did britian not know about america if these people discovered it and we have their stories (mainly thinking about columbus)
There are 2 reasons historians bring up.
1: It was not well known and it was considered a failure
2: They didn't know how big North America was and just thought it was another island
Columbus was not British also
@@CoolGuy-fw2zz you just blew my mind i didnt know that lmao
England was half conquered by the Danish Vikings. They had other things to worry about than discovering other civilisations.
can you do a real Askeladd?
well no, because unlike thorfinn, canute, thorkell, etc askeladd has no real life counterpart
Askeladd derived from the myth about King Arthur (he even mentioned it in his flashback). In Vinland Saga, he was descendant of King Arthur, so therefore Askeladd proclaimed himself as true King of Britannia in front of King Sweyn.
@@blake4249 well he does have a counterpart to the boy covered in ash aka Askeladden I would love to see a video about the mythological figure of Askeladden
@@travel1120Askeladd was Olaf Hoskuldsson
So he's not a short guy with 2 shortsword and fighting an 8 foot guy
U need read the manga
I gotta watch this anime, huh?
It's really good!
Read the manga, you'll get much further in the story, plus the story won't be dilluded and the art is outstanding
It is really good! Thank you for watching the video!
Yeah, it's a great adaptation, and also it adds some extra content that isn't on the manga to get more info on the story
Yea but it definitely takes drastic turns from the actual series. At this point in the story Thorfinh hasn't reached Vinland.
God can't wait to see Freydís Eiríksdóttir in Vinland Saga 😝
Some people forget that Vinland were set too in Quebec, Maine and Maritine. During the second exploration, they were more careful with the natives and ended in neutral term with them. but where the Saga is complicate is some return to Iceland and some have stay in Vinland. Same they think some Vinnic have try to colonizing Texas and they called the Texas "land of Orange" lol
I feel like the natives felt bad for them seeing a pregnant topless woman defending thorfinn and co so they just left them alone out of pity
Lol it's funny because I've heard story of the opposite. The story I heard was some natives and Vikings found each other and the Vikings were giving natives dairy products and it messed with there stomach's thinking they got poisoned the native Americans started an attack and that left the Vikings confused while one of are native American women came running at the Vikings without a shirt on and stole a weapon from one of them and started hitting them with the broad side of the weapon while going crazy so they just left not wanting to deal with that situation. It's funny to know that could of been done by both sides
Lol us native Americans and Vikings could of been powerful together
So hild going to die ?
When they feed us with crap at school like Christopher Columbus first discovered America, but Vinland fans know the truth.
Are you 40? That hasn't happened in a long time in American History courses.
It's insane that Scandinavian Vikings discovered America like 400+ years before columbus.
Hoooly crap Freydis was a psycho! LOOOL
Yeah she did some crazy stuff!
🙂
Immortalized in the anime?... I'm pretty sure the historical Viking sagas immortalized him. The anime is just a modern nod to that immortalized character.
yeah because every one likes reading viking sagas? right like no one watches anime? hahahah right that be silly.
@@jhonviel7381 if you're talking about the cultural and historical impact... The Viking sagas have stood for over a thousand years. I'm pretty sure that that trumps any anime that is made about these stories. Lol
@@jhonviel7381 The Chad Viking Saga enjoyer vs the virgin anime enjoyer
@@nexusofice9135 ok Varg Vikernes
@@jhonviel7381 ok weeb😂
Dang Manga spoilers right here for the upcoming chapters
WTH man! 1 minute in and I'm pretty sure you already spoiled the second season!!
Sorry man I didn't mean too, I was just doing the video on him in real life, which is very different from him in the anime
In fact it's from the fourth season 👻
Can you make a video about Mustafa Kemal Atatürk?
why that evil man
@@guzelataroach4450 Evil? What did he do that was evil?
The real king Ecgbert?
I haven't forgotten, the video is in production
@@historyprofiles thank you!
@@historyprofiles I think it might be cool to mention his name means bright edge referring to the edge of a blade of a sword.
If i have son i will name thorfinn
My Kin. We weren't born to fight, we were Hell raised to. The Northmen - I grew up in the Vineland surrounded by the pine barrens (barren womb/earth) where the Jersey Devil haunts the blood soaked lands of Free-dom (to escape service/the Kingdom). People here like to play with Stranger Things, dark things, worship devils and demons, and they cried vengeance, and vengeance came - for them - be careful when you call for justice because justice will come for you - the scales must be balanced. We grow a mean Devil's Fruit in the Vineland, tomatoes, because the ground is so salty and swampy from the past, and people love to smother their bread that Pan bakes for them in an oven with it and all their other wicked delights - consumers - those that demand service rather than serving - the Free-dom lovers. They think violence is cute now, lazy dogs who never even touched a blade much less had it plunged into them, and fall for this myth that Valhalla is where my kin want to return - we do not - we want Freya to bring us Fólkvangr where we can rest and be with our loved ones again - but we have wicked delights from the battles and we would be restless there because of it - this endless war - you dogs - you arrogant dogs doing it all over again, screaming God is dead and Science is king as you raise Hell around this place again, so you will see them all re-emerge if you haven't already, those you despised even though they brought you what you want, breakers of chains - the ones you left dead and buried, but the Winter snow can only cover so much after the Fall and only wash away the blood on the surface in Spring, the bones remain, the truth remains - what we are, what this place is, and eventually the past will rise up to haunt us when we forget to learn our lessons of history. Rainbow - the Pride symbol - why it arches up and goes back on the earth - because sin will not enter heaven. Pride: violet, Envy: green, Wrath: red, Greed: yellow, Lust: blue, Sloth: indigo, and Gluttony: orange (passion fruit). We are dog/god reversed - canine - carnivore - consumers of delight/flesh. We are a union of our crimes: Wrath (Mars/War/red) and Lust (Venus/Sex/blue) - in the mother of sin - mother nature - consuming the womb with a view. Rather than sitting around contemplating this world, why not bend a knee and serve and know what this lie system, this World Wide Web will ever teach you. They're dancing to Blackpink (pink=innocence) and handing out black pills. Now's the time. Matthew 6.
AMEN🧑🍳🧑🍳🧑🍳
Fuh-Jord, Jord?
Yet they will tell u christifer columbus discovered the new world 😂 after watching this can u see how far off darwin was ?
Thorfinn wasn't very creative at naming stuff lol
Amazing that some japanese dude took the history of my ancestors and butchered it at his own discretion.
Wonder how history could’ve been different if more Vikings settled in America.
They would be no America as we know it.
It was going to happen the same way.
I think that old gods might survive there and even convert Indians to Nordic faith. Imagine Cree tribe raiding other tribes just to go to Valhalla. Interesting stuff.
They would have just made it New Denmark or New Sweden or Norway.
Instead of New England which it became. It would be more Scandinavian in character with official language being Swedish or Danish.
Look at France, the UK, Germany, and Russia. In a roundabout way, they did, and their children chose war during the main colonization phase