Thousands of Shia Muslims commemorate Ashura in NYC on Sunday
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- Thousands of Shia Muslims commemorate Ashura in New York City on Sunday.
Ashura is a day of commemoration in Islam and holds great significance for Muslims across the world.
It falls on the 10th of Muharram, the first month in the Islamic calendar.
For Shia Muslims, Ashura is a solemn day: it is a day of mourning, commemorating the anniversary of the killing of Imam Hussein, the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad, during the Battle of Karbala in October 680 CE.
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Shias, please don't confuse Islam with a tragic incident, which we all grieve about. The Prophet pbuh never did anything like this even after the shahdad of his uncle Hamza RA.
Nor did the Sahaba's after the death of Prophet SAW.
@MKB7676 I don't have a monopoly on Islam, and neither do you nor any Imam. We take our Islam from our Master Muhammad ﷺ. Any deviation from this is not Islam.
The love of ahlelbayth a.s is the asal of deen. Allah ho alam what islam are you following and who's sunnat are you going in about
@ahmedfarooqui6896 u take your guidance from Satan, Aisha, Abu-Huraira and bukhari lies and fabrications
@aliakbarhussain3751 Brother, when we read Darood in namaz and otherwise, we do mention Muhammad ﷺ as well as Ahl al-Bayt. Don't be confused. Asl deen is following Muhammad ﷺ. Allah will not ask us about beating our chest and bleeding because these are not things our prophet or shahbas did after him.
Islam never taught us this. The Prophet S.A.W never did it, his companions didn’t. It’s actually embarrassing to see this happening on the streets
It's Shia way
@PEACEFULLNESS1450 there is "No Shia" way in Quran or Prophet's teaching!
Ikr it's sad that ppl will see this and think muslims hit themselves as a way of worship. It could deter them from islam!
@@Nara-cd2jdbeautifully said
@@halaluqman9183 islam also dont teach us to work with pissrael and usa like the suni do. At least shia do something against pissrael
I am Muslim Alhamduliah I am very proud to be a Muslim but these activities are not allowed in Islam!!!
It's the Shia way
I agree, the prophet or sahaba never did anything like this. We shouodnt bring anything new into deen
@@digitaltheidiot3618 men didn't do it in past
@@terminator_boy1614 I didn't say they did.. I'm saying they didn't. I don't get ur point
That is why Sunnis are the overwhelming majority. All thanks to Allah making me a Somali and from a nation state whose whole population 100% is Shafi'i Sunni Muslim.
Dear non muslim passerby....This is not Islam
Spreading hate in your own community? That's islam?
He's right actually
@@misspollysdolly what they are doing is haram the prophet commanded us to not do it besides most of muslims are sunni it is not fair to judge us by looking at shia because we have many things that we don't agree upon, I don't know your religion but I am sure you wouldn't like to be judged with a thing that you yourself don't believe in.moreover, in shia unlike us sunny they have disagreements among each other for example some of them see that harming themselves is haram while some of them don't think it is haram and some of them think it is ok to curse some of the sahaba (companions of the prophet) while other parts of shia think it is haram so even among them not all of them agree to it. In addition, we sunny people do not see all shia as muslims but the problem is when a non Muslim starts to speak about that subject he puts us in one group with them thinking that all of them are considered muslims but that ain't true. So when you want to see what is islam please look at us sunny muslims. Because, we don't harm our self or curse any of the sahaba or ask help from a dead human which is haram and many other stuff. Oh and don't look at the Suffi people either, because Suffi are three parts: a part of them is normal muslims like us sunny people and a part of them are infidels because of many things one of them that this part thinks for example they can curse god and when you ask them why they will tell you that their mind was not thinking at the moment so they at the moment the cursed they are considered crazy so they are not judged by god which is bull shit and the third group of suffi are the ones that is considerd muslims but do many wrong things like adding words to adhan or dancing while saying allah akber wich is totally wrong.
@@misspollysdollySpeaking the truth and trying to stop innovation/ Falsehood, something your religion is full of.
Incident of Karbala is after the death of Holy Prophet and Rasool Allah saw prophecy about this incident and mourn for his children 😢...how can you say it is not sunnat
This is not Islam. It's pure innovation.
IsLAME is innovation
Brother study Islam, you'll find about yourself and your way of life in this world and in the hereafter so that you can save yourself and your family from hell fire.
For the record! This is NOT Islam!!
Of course it's not!
Being a Muslim is judged by actions are not words, and currently only Shia Muslims are the ones defending Palestine and the Palestinian case. While other “Muslims “are busy shaking hands with the Israelis and the Americans. Let that sink in.
@@fainafaina1940And then you are far away from real Islam.
@@ruskiydude9987youre referring to governments. There’s good and bad everywhere and there are defenders of human rights everywhere, including Israel. We can’t fall for this trap that the bad want to put us in, which is playing with peoples minds in order to choose sides; it plays into their hands. The key is to simple be on the side of good - and good is everywhere. Cheers.
@@ruskiydude9987 not Just Shia ....many Muslim helping try to help Our Palestinians brother......
But just because Shia helping out Palestine brother, so we turn our blinds eyes on all this act this Shia do ...
It just not right... I hope Allah Guides them..let's pray for them ..
This has nothing to do with Islam
True 👍🏻
I'm Shia and I disagree with the self harming part, but only few people do this and not everyone. What we are doing is remembering how the Prophet's family including his grandson was murdered. We sit and listen to Islamic lectures and don't have fun for at least 15 days. What is wrong with this practice? Maybe you dont know about Imam Hussain's death. Search it up.
Why don't you go judge this in silence instead of spreading disunity in the Ummah
@@user-xl9xb5fy9nit’s like you don’t wanna listen.
They just told you it’s haram and you’re still asking “what’s wrong with this practice”
ITS HARAM
@@caimaccoinnich9594Islam encourages telling the truth and calling out wrong when you see it.
I pray to ALLAH that Shias come back to Islam one day
الله يسامحك
No we are good 😂
Amin.
We are better than you and well known of Islam 😂😂
Inshallah one day❤❤❤
This is not according to Islam . Beating their self is not way of Islam .
This is the CORE of Islam, whoever disagrees is a hypocrite;
a hypocrite is a person who pretends to be among the Muslims but likes and befriends the infidels.
This is not self harm, this is a war dance, of being willing and ready to die to defend the purity of the religion of God from tyrants.
Whoever doesn't like this doesn't like it out of fear because he is a tyrant boot licker.
I'm muslim and ... What the hell is this? 😦
There is no evidence of doing this things neither in Quran nor the sunnah ! You are just making a new religion BTW
So you agree that religion is manmade concept, that includes your religion, too!
@@user-sc3gn6be3h what???
As muslims we only follow Quran and prophet's sunnah (that are not human made anyway)
And what these ppl are doing is bidaa , they are astray , may Allah guide them !
@@user-sc3gn6be3hwhen did he/she say that wtf
Taraweeh is in quran? 😂
This is the CORE of Islam, whoever disagrees is a hypocrite;
a hypocrite is a person who pretends to be among the Muslims but likes and befriends the infidels.
This is not self harm, this is a war dance, of being willing and ready to die to defend the purity religion of God from tyrants.
Whoever doesn't like this doesn't like it out of fear because he is a tyrant boot licker.
Islam is so plain and simple. It sad to see Shia's doing this. Where does it say in the Qur'an to do this?? This is bidah (innovations)
To compete with Israel
Mind your own business
Prophet rode camel you shouldn't use cars ..
@@mahbubrm2148dude chill, there is a difference between innovation in deen and innovation in dunya , this is clearly not right, but we are all gonna answer to Allah at the end, so instead of spewing hate, wallahi let’s pray that allah forgive our international and unintentional sins
You don't have a monopoly over what Islam is and what it allows or doesn't allow ...Imami Twelver Shia Jafari are the one true Islam ...
Self flagellation has nothing to do with Islam 😊😊😊
Yeah but celebrating Halloween, nightclubs are all part of Islam
@@syedmuhammadmustafa7684 are you good ?
I think you hurt yourself a lot because of honoring someone you killed 😅
Since when@@syedmuhammadmustafa7684
@@rLordiya Yeah yeah the old Sunni excuse that Shias killed Imam Hussain while more than half of the Kufa was filled with Uthmanis with Shias being the minority. The ones that stood after Karbala known as Thawabeens were the Shias who were a small minority in Kufa. The remaining Thawabeen then later met forces with Mukhtar and took control of Kufa and killed most of the main commanders of Karbala and those who were involved in Karbala. In reality it was your caliphate system that led to events like Karbala. Just in a few years people like Yazeed become caliph. That's what happens when humans themselves start choosing the representative of Allah!.
@@serveallah You should ask the Wahabbis
For anyone wondering: This is NOT Islam!!!! May Allah guide us all
Ameen
Nah go learn about Islam and than talk
@@moe573 will do.
@@moe573 Show me in the Quran where it specifically says to go do this ritual and then we will talk...
@@danielavila5081 How is this a ritual? and better question how is this Harming themselves this is like what Samoans do lol or when a mosquito lands on ya.. You smack ur arm or whatever.. relax abit yeah?
Hurting yourself is prohibited in Islam. Never confuse shia with Islam.
Girl shut up. We followed the alhlulbait and that's fake islam ?😂
Muslims are not fragile.. This is no where near self harm.. relax yeah? Samoans do regular.. they are not harming them selves they go play Football after it and are fine
Shia are the real muslims. Most Sunni countries are Israel puppet
Self harm is not a part of islam. The prophet never self harmed. This is a complete innovation of the Shias.
Islam is simple, if you can't find it in Quran and doesnt explained in Hadist, dont do it.
Yep
What about slavery and pedophilia?
@@a.bhattirajput5900slavery is explained. But bcos it is illegal in most countries hardly anyone even uses slavery anymore. Coz in islam we r also taught to go by our countries laws unless they r forcing us to do something against our religion or stopping us from doing something that is compulsory in our religion. And slavery isn't compulsory. Btw the prophet encouraged ppl to buy slaves from bad ppl and then treat the slaves well and let them free.
Abt pedophilia that's a whole northern convo I suggest u find a yt video explaining from a Muslim point of view
@@a.bhattirajput5900
What about it?
Don't use smartphones , throw away your tv . Go back to live in houses made of mud. Don't ride on bus, car etc.
"This goes back to our tradition." The girl forgot to mention how long back she is going? Our Prophets (May peace be upon them all) and Sahabas RA have never grieved like this at any time in history.
Do you read your scripted so called "Sahih Bukhari"?
The complete narration in your Bukhari says that when imam Hussain(a.s) was born, the prophet started crying vehemently. He was asked why he cried so much. He answered that Gibrael had come to him and informed what would happen to Imam Hussain in Karbala.
We are at least crying after the martyrdom, the prophet cried and was saddened even before the martyrdom.
You guys follow the sunnah of Muavia not the sunnah of the prophet(saw)
@@user-vc5wi6gw6oof course prophet cried but he didn't beat his chest with blades
@@user-vc5wi6gw6oMu'awiyah (ra) lives rent free in you guys' heads.
@@user-vc5wi6gw6o give me the exact reference I wanted to read.
@@user-vc5wi6gw6oDid Hassan and Hussain (ra) give their Baya to Muawiyah (ra) hand? Did hussein not accept the leadership of Muawiyah for 20 years?
She said it “OUR WAY”…. In Islam the Quran and Sunnah IS THE WAY 💞
Islam is Quran o Ahlaibaith who are the real Sunnah. Go read the history, Ghadeer and Ayat e Muwadat, ayat e Tatheer, Mubahila, Khaiber, Khandaq...You will not find tje fake Sahaba but real Imam...Imam Ali and Prophet's Progeny .
Ok. So you and all Sunnis can keep shaking hands with Izrail while Shia Muslims actually stand with the Ummah in Palestine
@@nasirjaffery8480wdym "real sunnah"??? We follow the prophet muhammad saw, how is that not sunnah? Whereas this is something that the prophet or sahaba never did, and they think they r gaining rewards for doing this thing that is not even in islam, which is bid'ah
@@caimaccoinnich9594 No you don't Sunnis are real fighters in every Islamic cause & even in Palestinian cause (Hamas Al Qassam Jenin Batallion etc....). You, your Mullahs & Your Ayatollahs just bark that they stand with Palestine without ever stepping foot on it.
Shias have always played in the hands of kuffar like how they fought ISIS and Sadam who would have up untill now obliterated Israel but noo how can a Mullah ever tolerate that it was done without he being the the dominant one there and now they just bark without making any effort..........
@@caimaccoinnich9594 accusing other muslims following those demons is CRAZY
I'm Indonesian moslem and this is not mentioned in our law.
Real
You already few years before forcely converted religion they are following many years what yours problem their beleive
This is the CORE of Islam, whoever disagrees is a hypocrite;
a hypocrite is a person who pretends to be among the Muslims but likes and befriends the infidels.
This is not self harm, this is a war dance, of being willing and ready to die to defend the purity religion of God from tyrants.
Whoever doesn't like this doesn't like it out of fear because he is a tyrant boot licker.
Ok pojeet drink some water @@arunkumar-em6vd
@@arunkumar-em6vdnot everyone is interested in Worshipping cows so stop barking.Even if they converted according to you let them be Period
I am muslim ☪️ but I do not do this I am not Shia and I do not think harming you body is right bcz your body belongs to Allah and u need to take care of that body (I'm not trying to be disrespectful I just don't follow this tradition) I am sunni ❤
This isn’t Islam. This is ignorance
They are true muslim who follow true islam
@@uchiha6284 Nope. Read about them and what they do. Don’t be a puppet.
@@Mr79. say what u want about shia but at least the shia do somthing against pissrael while the suni work for pissrael and usa
@@Mr79. I read and i know, this is true Islam. Converted will never understand true Islam
Go and learn about islam and then comment pls or better fo watch boss baby 😂
As a Muslim I feel embarrassed because of such behaviors.
This is not Islam...😢
If you want to respect imam hussain dont do this.
As a Muslim, I say that these people have invented new religion that Prophet Mohammed and his companions never had. We don’t believe in these illusions and delusions.
They are already out of fold of Islam that's why we don't consider them as Muslims..
Is it teaching of Islam? Never. It is against teaching of Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him)
Prophet muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam peace be upon him said
He who slaps his cheeks, tears his clothes and follows the ways and traditions of the Days of Ignorance is not one of us."
Sahih Al Bukhari (1294)
This is a very weak hadith
Using Sahih Bukhari to convince a Shiite of something is like a Christian using the bible to disprove Islam, Try again.
@@yousofsalmani8552but it says sahi Al bukhari? Correct me if I'm wrong but i thought sahih means authentic
@@digitaltheidiot3618 so you say there is no way that sahih has something wrong with it? Could have just be corrupted cuz a certain caliph didn't let some hadith to be written down?
Then you are saying sahih bukhari is basically Quran cuz you trust it more than what's in the Quran
@@digitaltheidiot3618 also I can write a book rn and call it sahih of yousof does that make it all true? Or should it be determined rightly?
I'm not saying sahih is wrong I'm saying there are possibilities
Commemorate sure, but don’t say it’s part of Islam. You will NEVER see prophet Muhammad slapping his chest and humming for a person.
I'm Shia and I'm from Iran. many of these activities are built by the government to make Islam like a religion that is only for sadness. we don't worship Imams and we don't say they are higher than prophets. we are Muslims and that's it. don't let these lines separate us from each other.
Who are fighting for Palestinians
1) Hezbollah, Shia Militia backed by IRAN
2) Houthis, Zaidis(Follower of 4th imam) backed by IRAN
3) Iraqi Shia Militia (PMU) backed by IRAN
4)Al ashtar brigades(Behrain), Shia Militia backed by IRAN
5) Zainabiyoon, Pakistani Shia Militia Backed by IRAN based in Syria
6) Fatimiyoon, Afganistan shia Militia backed by IRAN based in Syria
7) And IRAN itself and Shias all around the World.......
Now The question is why Only Shia people took a fight with Israel and US And Other Western bully countries.......
And Why they are Fighting for Palestinians Who Are Sunnis.....
Lots of Love from KASHMIR (INDIA)
Mashallah I’m glad someone finally said smthin the amount of hateful comments in this chat is ridiculous not one person has really asked why we do this and the proper masail behind it rather hv stated their own opinion and then also making us look bad when in reality we r defending their sect in Palestine and not once do we receive respect from it rather hate because we have differences
@@ZainabR78618 I agree with this but that doesnt justify what they are doing in this Video
@@mohammad.ssaimm I hv made a comment on it already but I’ll mention it again after doing plenty research so that no one can say I’m getting fake facts I found a Sunni scholar at the time of prophet Muhammad (saw) who narrated how the prophet himself began and encouraged this (it’s called matam jic u weren’t aware) if u would like to check what he says plz do.
I don’t hate Sunnis at all what I do hate tho is the constant hatred at us shias and calling us disbelievers I find that a lot of the comments are very hurtful and many have not even done proper research rather because they have been told by many of their own Sunni brothers and sisters that it’s shirk they spread the same message without second thought as a Shia I’m more than happy to discuss and answer questions but I won’t take hate because that’s not what we have been taught in the Quran and by the prophet himself we should respect everyone
I hope that shed a bit more light on matam and how it actually isn’t shirk if u want more sources as u aren’t satisfied by this one please do let me know and I’ll send a couple more
@@ZainabR78618 I dont Hate Shias but Please on this particular act give me a Hadees where it says you can beat your chest, you can hurt your self prophet Muhammad S.A.W Never Mourn like this, instead Prophet Muhammad Weeped by crying let me give you hadees
Sahih al-Bukhari 1281, 1282
Narrated Zainab bint Abi Salama:
I went to Um Habiba, the wife of Prophet, who said, "I heard the Prophets saying, 'It is not legal for a woman who believes in Allah and the Last Day to mourn for any dead person for more than three days except for her husband, (for whom she should mourn) for four months and ten days'." Later I went to Zainab bint Jahsh when her brother died; she asked for some scent, and after using it she said, "I am not in need of scent but I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saying, 'It is not legal for a woman who believes in Allah and the Last Day to mourn for more than three days for any dead person except her husband, (for whom she should mourn) for four months and ten days.' "
@@mohammad.ssaimm Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 92, Number 446
Also Mu’awyia bin Hakam al-Sulami said: ‘I was preforming prayers behind Allah’s messenger (pbuh) then a man sneezed, thus I said to him: ‘May Allah’s mercy be upon you’. Thus the people looked at me, then I said to my self: ‘O my, why are you looking at me?’ Then they started striking their thighs, therefore I came to know that they want me to remain silent’”.
The first shows how it’s an act of grief and the second is ur own Sahaba showing the same grief in front of the prophet and the prophet had no comment on it at all
There is also Madarij al Nubuwah, page 221:
“When life was breathed into the spirit of Adam he hit his hand on his head and cried. He made this tradition of beating one’s head with one’s hand and crying in times of trouble for his descendants.”
As u can see in ur own books matam is shown here on many accounts
It's Totally Haram (prohibited ) to harm oneself.
Instead of this, read the Qur'an this day and gain Allah's peace and blessings...
I am a Muslim and I am very proud to be a Muslim but these activities are not allowed in our Islam and every Muslim has a pain in their heart for the grandson of the beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him...)
because no Muslim will forget his martyrdom and i don't believe in sections like Shia and Sunni, but I am a Muslim and only a Muslim.....🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
You don't have a monopoly over what Islam is and what it allows or doesn't allow ... Shia are the one true Islam ...
Don’t worry about Shia they are non Muslims.
yeah, shia makes music and dancing halal for them (me personally still having fun wasting time and listens to music and i knew it's wrong but...), but i don't really understand what is in their mind to do this things of rituals and mocking to all the prophets friends
just follow the right teaching brother
@@MKB7676bruhh the prophet has hadist that says you can't mock all of his bestfriend but shia still mocks them
@@realregalia7759ok then....go and read the personality of those you claim to be the best friends of Prophet...you will know why we don't like them...and don't ask your mullah plz...coz he is gonna tell you the same lies...he has been telling you for many years...
Innovation has no place in Islam. Follow the Quran and the Sunnah.
OK then who should tell me what salat should I do for Fajr or noon or Maghreb?
Is that in Quran? Or is that an innovation?
@@yousofsalmani8552that's mentioned in hadiths and its the sunnah. The comment literally says to follow the quran and sunnah. So it's not an innovation to follow the sunnah, it's an innovation to bring anything else in deen that's not a part of the quran or sunnah. 😅
@@digitaltheidiot3618 so in our sunnah crying for your beloved is not bad also
In hadith prophet refers to hussein as the savior ship then I guess losing this treasure to ppl who claim to be Muslims is worthy of morning
@@yousofsalmani8552u either don't understand what I mean or r pretending not to understand. Crying is allowed, but even then not loudly and wailing. But I'm not even talking abt I'm talking abt this ritual that they're doing of hitting themselves that is not sunnah. And I didn't say we shouldnt mourn hazrat hasan or hazrat hussein ras deaths, ofcourse all Muslims are sad abt that, but that doesn't mean we should hit ourselves which isn't mentioned in the quran or sunnah.
@@yousofsalmani8552 it is an innovation because our prophet never did it. The religion was finished before he had died and if it was something that was important to our religion, he would have introduced it. Also, mourning a loss for a woman should not be for longer than 3 days because it is not her husband. This is clear Hadith in Bukhari.
Innovation in Islam is the cause of ignorance .
The only time sunnies really come out is to critic Shia. Maybe they should take lessons as the Shia are the ones fighting for the umma and standing with Gaza while you Munafiqs stand and watch! Allah sees all
I am with you on this my brother. Government's doing things for their own survival is not the same as a belief we have about Islam/it's teachings? We have to seperate what people actually do/are doing and the the creed of Islam? Believing in Twelve Imams, they Beign sinless or Awliya goes against the creed of Islam. We had Munafigs from the time of Prophets PBUH it didn't and shudnt change Islam. Some Munafigs taking authority and another group not happy with it, doesn't give them the right to change religion?
Self-beating/harming is strictly forbidden and deviates from the tesching of Islam😂😂😂❤❤❤
By your logic a surgery that might cause u issue or kill you is haram as well right?😂😂
@@yousofsalmani8552 I don't think u know what logic is. Surgeries are done for ur benefit in the long run. This has no benefit, as its not mentioned in the quran or sunnah. And it is haram to harm urself like this. Everything that is haram is bad for us, therefore this is actually bad for us
@@digitaltheidiot3618 hitting your chest is like clapping but for sadness they do it to make the sound
Would you say clapping is harming your body?
This isn’t the Islam I know..
You don't have a monopoly over what Islam is and what it allows or doesn't allow ...Imami Twelver Shia Jafari are the one true Islam ...
@@MKB7676yes we do.
You can’t drink alcohol and claim to be Muslim.
@@MKB7676do you also say Bismillah before eating pork?
@@LickyTeeI disagree with that. Although drinking is a sin, drinking alcohol does not eliminate you from being a Muslim.
@@LickyTeethink before saying something serious like this. Yes, drinking alcohol is haram and completely forbidden, but it's not one of the sins that can take u out of islam like shirk
And here I am, an Argentinian Atheist, wondering what all the fuss is about in the comments.
There are no right ways of practicing a religion. Every single way is pretty much equally valid. I bet everyone in the comments is not practicing their religion the way it was originally meant to, and this is perfectly okay.
Who helps those in need? Who helps the Palestinians? Saudi, Egypt, Jordan or those other Sunni nations certainly do not. Iran does, Yemen does, Syria does, Lebanon does. The Shia nations do. "Those who ignore the oppressed are oppressors themselves" - Imam Huseyn pbuh. Remember that when you lie that Shias are not Muslims. They are the true Muslims
Correction. Shia doctrine is not Islam. But Shia people can be Muslims if they revoke The insanities of the Shia doctrine.
You don't have a monopoly over what Islam is and what it allows or doesn't allow ...Imami Twelver Shia Jafari are the one true Islam ...
What insanity? (I'm Shia and think the self harm is really not supposed to be done but majority do not do this)
@@user-xl9xb5fy9nself harm. We Sunnis on the other side of the world don’t really know much about shia other than Muharram or self harm. I know about the fitna and its history but not modern shia practice. From what I have heard the majority are just normal Muslims like us and only few extreme groups do self harm and the such.
@@user-xl9xb5fy9nthen majority should prevent minority from doing this practice because it sends wrong message about islamic teachings to others
currently they are justing beating their chests but as you probably know if allowed by NYC they will also knives and swords to inflict injuries on their own bodies. what kind of message will it send about the image of islam to those observing them
@@imranreiaz-wk9lv yes, thanks for being respectful. We're all very similar with the same basic Islamic principles. There are small differences stemming from political caliph long ago. And so I respect Sunni because they are still good muslims, even if things like the way we stand to pray is different.
Innovation in Islam is strictly prohibited... If someone mourns about something let them make a personal duaa directly to Allah azzawajal.. not to do things that weren't taught by prophet Muhammad s.a.w
Its haram we are also moslim and we have pain of hussain r but not like thise
You don't have a monopoly over what Islam is and what it allows or doesn't allow ...Imami Twelver Shia Jafari are the one true Islam ...
It doesn’t matter what Shia does they are out of Islam so their acts are invalid. They have to take proper shahada first
@@Saa42808 yeah the ulama in indonesia categorize them as other religion and not islam, because they did a lot of forbidden things that the prophet avoids and mock the prophet friends
At least the shia dont work for pissrael like the sunni
@@makavali-yb7xv just because some people/organisation work with israel (or just let israel do the genocide) doesn't mean the whole sunni is wrong (yes, the kingdom of saudi & morocco, emirates and many more just condemn israel by mouth and but don't take action is shameful, may allah judge them in the afterlife)
but in the other side, i admire the shia people did for palestine, but still the ulama condemn the shia traditions because they did what the prophet forbid
This is not islam
This is not islam. This is blasphemy!
No man, this is so wrong in so many different levels.
Islam is simple, why add extra BS for no reason 🤦🏻♂️
Stop bidah in Islam 🤲 the ummah must condamn these things
Mind your business plz
The ummah needs to learn to mind its business
Its their traditions, RESPECT it, we are all différent.
Islam is not a religion of grieving, if it was we would rather grieve the death of the Prophet SAW himself. This is a weird mix of Hinduism. Just saying
please don't hurt ourselves. May Shia Islam return to true Islam and unite in the aqeedah of ahli sunnah wal jamaah❤😢🤲
SHIAs are Not Muslim.....MUSLIM CAN'T BE SHIA, They Founded By Jewish Ibn Saba.
I have Reverted from Shiaism to Become Muslim.
Wow 😂😂 New scholar 😅
Ibn Sabah was not a real person. He is a fabrication of those who wish to undermine Shias. Do not state that an entire group of millions of people who believe in Allah(swt) as their lord, and the Prophet Muhammad (sawas) as the final prophet are anything other than Muslims. It is a sin to proclaim that anyone who professes Islam is not actually a Muslim.
@@sohaelchowdhury2061 hmm these non-muslim seem to be atleast doing something against pissrael while the suni and wahabi work for pissrael and usa
@@makavali-yb7xv Exactly! Only people who are actually doing something to these pisreliz are Shia's.. Weird.. While alot of yapping about they are not Muslim. Because they think this is "sElF HaRm" Like we are suppose to be fragile.. let them go say that to a Samoan lol
@@yousufmohd3879 get educated or get lost.
Self harm is haram in Islam but the day of ashura is a day of fasting, gratitude and remembrance❤
Yazid was son of your khalifa Muawiyah... Your opinion doesn't matter
i’m a shia and i wld never do this. You are not allowed to be topless in the streets. It is shameful. I want unity in the ummah😊
Sad.. Islam never teach us to hurt ourselves 😢
And never teach you to judge others either yet here you are
@@whawhaa Umar ibn Al-Khattab رضي الله عنه said : 'We judge by what's apparent and we leave their inner secrets to Allah. ' Sahih Al-Bukhari, 2498
@@mohammedmalik2348 Why are you pointing out inconsistencies in the book that came directly from god and has been unchanged and is perfect 😨
@@whawhaa [9:71] The believers, both men and women, are allies of one another. They enjoin good, forbid evil, establish Prayer, pay Zakah, and obey Allah and His Messenger.80 Surely Allah will show mercy to them. Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise
I see no inconsistencies
Muslims are not fragile.. This is no where near self harm.. relax yeah? Samoans do regular.. they are not harming them selves they go play Football after it and are fine
Fear Allah as He should be feared, and die not except in a state of Islam. Quran 3:102
Islam never taught us this.
IsLAME is taught all st00pid stuffs
This is not Islam. Islam strictly prohibits these activities.
It should be the day to commemorate Prophet Moses saved from Pharaoh with fasting
Alhamdullilah for being Muslim (sunni)
You don't have a monopoly over what Islam is and what it allows or doesn't allow ...Imami Twelver Shia Jafari are the one true Islam ...
@@MKB7676 Said no one ever..The True Islam is Quran and Hadith of Prophet SAW
@@muhammadhameedahmed6619 hadeeth is not bukhari lies and fabrications
@@MKB7676 Which one is important according to you ? Quran ? Or your imams quotes ?
@muhammadhameedahmed6619 do you worship Quran or Allah?
Ever heard of a vegan carnivore? ... Exactly, same as saying Shia Muslim🤷🏾♂️
@@MKB7676follow the prophet muhammad saw teaching, not those imams
According to your jahalat then go follow allah and not the prophets. @light5978
@@aliakbarhussain3751we follow the sunnah and Quran it’s that simple.
@@aliakbarhussain3751 allah said to follow the prophet muhammad pbuh, so we do and so we don't do stuff that goes against his teachings like in this video
Maybe you're the real vegan carnivore.
When Rasul (saw) mourn himself on janaza of Hazrat Hamza(ra), when why can't we shia mourn for Grandson of Rasul(saw)...this is embedded in Islam....It is soul of Islam ....😢😢
i came from a shia background, I have no problems against the prophets grandsons may Allah reward them Jannah, I love the prophet and his family but I don’t think hitting yourselves is a good idea, in the quran your not supposed to hit yourself, I just want to be a Muslim that’s all hopefully everyone can agree with me.
My Shia Brothers and sister, kindly stop this type of mourning! If u want to mourn then pray salah, give charity, fast.
@Shaun-e9y *tips fedora* bro go back to your fish ancestors.
@Shaun-e9y that's ur self journey soul journey. Where u have to step and find out whether God exists.
@Shaun-e9y all these things are done for spiritual awakening like charity, fasting, namaz.. So one doesn't need self flagellation to do spiritual awakening.
Cult activity! In Islam we pray for all Muslims who died. Not do these idiotic things specific to one event!
This is not Islam and not from Islam. It is a cultural thing.
It is HARAM to cause harm to yourself and this practice is HARAM
its not in Islam at all!! if prophet PBUH was here at this time he would have strongly resisted doing this... He has never taught Muslims to do any kind of act like this in grievance...even shouting out loud at relatives death is not liked in islam
✌🏻☝🏻Whatever the differences between us Muslims, we are brothers of the same faith.
Shias are not Muslim. They have nothing to do with Islam
Shias are not Muslims
Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) was nor Sunni or Shia. He was a Messenger of Allah (S.W.T). He told us not to divide in sects because that will ruin the whole islamic belief. He has also said that on the day of judgement, their will be 73 sects and only 1 sect will enter the Jannah.
@@uoyebut8953Why not? And even so, you are not Allah and as a Muslim you should know that Allah has said you have no right to say that and it is a big sin to judge, because that's what Allah does.
SHIAs are Not Muslim..... They Founded By Jewish Ibn Saba.
Love to all Shias ❤❤❤❤❤
This is the real Islam, not Sunni.
This is not from Islam this is Shia made Islam.
"It roots back to our traditions" are the exact words pagans often said to their appointed prophets.
Bruh why they beating themselves. I see demon possessed people do that 😭
The majority of scholars are agree that Shia are out of Islam.
@@Saa42808 say what u want but at least they do something against pissrael unlike the sunni who work for pissrael and usa
It’s not this simple, please be careful of making these types of statement
@@makavali-yb7xvSunnis are followers of Bakree
@@LyRxnx I have a question why do you pray with your hands crossed? did Abu Bakr pray like that? Did the Prophet (PBUH&HF) tell you to do that? we both know that Omar added that in, If you wanna start calling everything bid'ah start with yourself.
@@makavali-yb7xv your point is invalid and illogical. What about the South Africa they are non Muslims and only one who made a case against Israel. Next time come with a valid argument.
This is not Islam. Islam does not teach a person to inflict harm to him/herself
Astaghfirullah
Astaghfirullah to you , its the shia’s who are fighting against genocide
@@wisdomisbetterthansilverorg0ldBy sinning 😂😂
@@wisdomisbetterthansilverorg0ld where?
I talked to God and unfortunately he will not forgive you for being a bigotted hater
Astagfirullah... May Allah give them hidayah
This practice is a pagan practice followed by the kufars of arabia in the jahiliya period, nothing to do with islam. Self immolation is explicitly forbidden in the Quran and hadith.
1,300 years have passed and this Sect are still repenting for the sins of their ancestors….only the almighty knows best..,
You repent for yours before it’s too late
@@makavellitheprince5256we only repent for own own sins thanks, everyone is responsible for themselves, islam is just
@@digitaltheidiot3618
رَبَّنَا اغْفِرْ لِي وَلِوَالِدَيَّ وَلِلْمُؤْمِنِينَ يَوْمَ يَقُومُ الْحِسَابُ
Why u say almighty best to know we already know this is wrong are u ok akhy? subhanaAllah u guys weirdo
@@bm_wuratli6883 Who are we to Judge…
We are just Mere Mortals…
Only the Almighty knows best…
Surat No. 10 Ayat NO. 44
Indeed, Allah does not wrong the people at all, but it is the people who are wronging themselves.
This is what happens when you start innovation in religion.
Sami Hamdi continuously degrades Sunnis, but it appears that he silently promotes the Shia Raafidah 🔥
Shia is similar to Christianity not Islam
How? Shia is the real muslim. While Sunni countries are Israeli puppet
the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "He who slaps his cheeks, tears his clothes and follows the ways and traditions of the Days of Ignorance is not one of us."
حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو نُعَيْمٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، حَدَّثَنَا زُبَيْدٌ الْيَامِيُّ، عَنْ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، عَنْ مَسْرُوقٍ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ قَالَ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم " لَيْسَ مِنَّا مَنْ لَطَمَ الْخُدُودَ، وَشَقَّ الْجُيُوبَ، وَدَعَا بِدَعْوَى الْجَاهِلِيَّةِ ".
It's fucking sufyani mate that guy had a problem with ahlul bait
lmao are you seriously quoting Sufiyan, May Allah guide you brother, The Ummayads hate the Prophet and his family peace be upon them, Because their uncles and grandfathers were killed fighting with the Pagans in the battle of Uhud, They became Muslims because they lost the battle not because they believe in it.
They kills the Prophet's family and call themselves Muslims.
@@yousofsalmani8552 brother. Was Abu Bakr RA and Umar RA and Uthman RA not also Ahul Bayt through marriage?
They also married daughters of the prophet PBUH. Fatima RA was not the only daughter.
@gavinminty4974 yes not the only daughter but the dearest one
Also nope ahlulbait are specific ppl
5 ppl are called ahlulbait Ali,Fatima,hassan,Hussain, and prophet himself
Abubakr and Umar were only companions
Also being the son in law of prophet does not automatically make you a good person
But a hadith does
@@gavinminty4974 was Abu Lahb not the prophet's uncle? We never claim that relation to the prophet (PBUH&HF) is the reason we are loyal to Ahlul Bayt, it's because the prophet (PBUH&HF) Said so: "I am leaving among you two weighty things: There first of which is the Book of Allah. In is guidance and light, so hold fast to the Book of Allah and adhere to it.' So he exhorted (us) (to hold fast to it) and encouraged it then said, 'And the members of my household, I remind you of Allah with regards (of your duties) to the members of my family."
Read Hadith Al-Kesa' also known in English as "Tradition of the Cloak" if you still believe Umar and Abu Bakr are anything more than companions (Which still doesn't change anything because we don't believe all the companions are righteous but it's a good starting point)
This is not Islam !
This has nothing to do with Islam the prophet Mohammad SAW never did this we should only be following what our prophet did not anyone else.
This is not ISLAM but a local tradition I respect.
All an educated Wahabis in the comment section.
I bet 99.9% of these people couldnt mark on the calendar when prophet muhammad himself passed away
28th Safar same day as imam Hasan (as)
This is NOT Islam.
"This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islâm as your religion." It was completed. All we needed to know, compiled in the Quran and the Sunnah.
I’m a Shia Muslim and I don’t beat myself.
Islam has brought light to this world. Accept Islam and choose it over tradition
If you are a nonMuslim this is not Islam … pure innovation 🤦♂️
Thus is really messed up. Nothing to do with Islam. May Allah guide you all.
I'm Sunni, Much respect to the Shia. Thank you for supporting Palestine! ,💯
May Allah increase ranks of azadare hussaini as
Im sunni god bless to our shias brother.. Brave people..
To all the well meaning Sunni brothers who say that they dislike the way Shias are expressing their grief, why don’t they show the Shia the proper way to grieve for the grandson of the Prophet. I was at a Sunni mosque for Jummah in the first ten days and the Sheikh did not even utter the word “Hussain”.
Am glad 99% of Muslim now know the truth about the falsehood of Shias AlhamduliLlah 🤲
Mashallah ❤ at least some people still care about the ahlulbait
It’s wrong. Not a part of Islam. Prophet Muhammad SAW forbade it.