My Favorite Way To Get The Right Proportions For a Portrait

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Komentáře • 262

  • @theart7111
    @theart7111 Před rokem +433

    I paint for a living, and I must say, your a really good teacher. You say things that I have never been able to put into words.

    • @paintcoach
      @paintcoach  Před rokem +35

      Thanks! I really appreciate you saying that.

    • @pranjalshelar3830
      @pranjalshelar3830 Před rokem +3

      And you've said what i couldn't say....

    • @chinchillamdgamer
      @chinchillamdgamer Před rokem +7

      You have my dream job. And uh, I'm actually a doctor.

    • @manjitkapri1816
      @manjitkapri1816 Před rokem +1

      @@chinchillamdgamer good job

    • @Kkajo
      @Kkajo Před rokem +4

      ​@@chinchillamdgamer it's never too late to start

  • @Pavelek88
    @Pavelek88 Před rokem +200

    It's uplifting to see that PROs are still struggling with the same things as beginners do :) Overcome problems with confidence built by experience, that's the main diference :)

  • @spiritscraft
    @spiritscraft Před rokem +48

    As a beginner I used to make the mistake of completely finishing one eye before starting the other and I could never get them to match! Working large to small amd general to details all over the picture in stages is so muchbetter fir getting a good likeness. Much easier to catch mistakes early and correct them too.

  • @ktuukk
    @ktuukk Před rokem +59

    just wanted to start a painting, been struggling to get the proportions on my sketch right and tadaaa, you uploaded the solution for all my problems :DD such a magician

    • @eileenjohnston6835
      @eileenjohnston6835 Před rokem +1

      I use the proportional divider all the time. Works great and is fast!

  • @dorryrice6797
    @dorryrice6797 Před rokem +28

    You are a great artist - your portraits are magic, but if possible , you’re an even better teacher. You have the ability to remember your journey and communicate it to us! You know where you had a problem and figured out most of us would have the same issue. I’m on the patronnpag3, and I love faces, so when I can manage it, your portrait course is next.

  • @themishening
    @themishening Před rokem +43

    I thought I was alone with using this method! I like to get a rough sketch down, block in then sculpt away the mistakes. Perfect measuring has never been my strong suit and I used to be really bothered by it until I found this technique.

  • @grghkllb3875
    @grghkllb3875 Před rokem +46

    Hey Chris, been watching you for a few years now and noticed you're really starting to come into your own as an artist, especially portraits. Nice job, looking forward to seeing what you do in the future.

  • @StClair008
    @StClair008 Před rokem +8

    This video appeared on my CZcams screen and for some reason I decided to watch it and this guy is an excellent teacher. I paint in watercolor (used to paint in oils) but still found value in what was presented.. I have a proportional divider and have found it an incredibly useful tool. Also, his method of painting is solid and good to think about even when using watercolor light to dark. Creating a poster sketch first is a good way to work for that (he makes me miss painting in oils). Just keeping the concepts in mind is helpful and I like the way he presents them in a no nonsense way. He seems to have a fresh memory of having learned himself which is great for helping people who are just starting out.

  • @emilleum48
    @emilleum48 Před rokem +3

    This is ret., military disabled from numerous combat injuries. I think you are a great painting teacher, but when you broke your value steps down into images that I could print-out. That is so much more valuable for me because I have troubles having to stop and start the videos. For people like me, please do more of these for others like me. I can also use theses to help me work-out other portraits, thank you,
    MSG Leum

    • @claireryan8074
      @claireryan8074 Před 4 měsíci

      I use a great app “See Value” that translates my photos into 2 or 3 or 4-part values. It’s very helpful.

  • @graces4506
    @graces4506 Před rokem +5

    Thanks for the tutorial it was very helpful.

  • @daveemilio67
    @daveemilio67 Před rokem +16

    Great video. So well explained and stresses the importance of being able to draw. ( a weakness I’ve developed from not drawing enough)

  • @stardustgirl2904
    @stardustgirl2904 Před rokem +6

    It's a lot of effort to get a painting right ❗ Patience is 🗝️ key! I can't paint on a day I can't sit still! Painting 🎨🖌️ dosen't come naturally, I have to work at it, unlike my Father who could paint anything! He passed away and he never got to help me with 🎨 but he was very talented!

  • @RatusMax
    @RatusMax Před rokem +7

    This method just works better. I leaned towards this when I started 2 years ago. Now thinking about it, It's kind of like calculus lol. (Hopefully that didn't scare you away. ) As the shapes get smaller and smaller, the painting looks more like the reference. (This is similar to how calculus works, as we keep splitting the squares under the curve to fit it, it starts to approximate the area under it)The thing is, if one get's very good at this shape building, they should realize it doesn't ever have to be detailed. As one looks at the painting, the question being asked is (whether they know it or not) "How little do I have to put in this painting to get the brain to fill in the rest of the information." I think that might be what Sargant was trying to accomplish.
    You know those magicians, pranksters, swindlers, neuroscientists, artists, game developers, etc? They all craft/find ways to make the brain overloaded with information (get the brain to focus on something else while having it ignore everything around it.), fill in things that are missing (The brain will sometimes try to fill in information from previous experiences of what it knows to be there), and just build on the known illusions/brain hacks the brain does to function in the world.
    The question I first asked myself when I started painting is "How can I get the likeness exact?" now ask myself is "How can I fool my brain into thinking these things are what I know with as little information as possible?"
    Watch a video called "The image you can only see once" on YT. It got me thinking, "Why waste time putting all the details in when the brain can do it for me?" The brain (at least mine lol) loves being engaged by filling it in as well.
    Most artists over the years know this consciously or unconsciously. When you start asking yourself how to trick the brain, the paintings can take a different feel to them. Random garbled mess up close can become order in the brain because one has found the key to perfectly allow it to fill in the information well.
    I don't have that skill yet lol not for another 3-5 years probably. I am still messing around with perspective and composition lol.

  • @p.k.carlson6646
    @p.k.carlson6646 Před rokem +3

    Really great reminders, Thanks!

  • @juliebabb3365
    @juliebabb3365 Před rokem +2

    Hey Chris, appreciate your simple straight forward approach.

  • @superkeyman100
    @superkeyman100 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Man ! Been painting for years living in Ireland and found your videos soo! Refreshing and teaching the right way , to be honest and objective and learn for mistakes we all make 👍

  • @vartanarakelian4643
    @vartanarakelian4643 Před rokem +5

    I am a begginer and this is great especially I was struggling measuring with pencil, but Proportional Divider is the best I think.

  • @ms.denise5678
    @ms.denise5678 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I'm glad I found you. I just started back into portrait painting....and I like how well you explain and demonstrate.

  • @julianaolejkova4210
    @julianaolejkova4210 Před rokem +4

    Thank you for your videos and for the possibility that thanks to you I look at the art from a different perspective. I always find motivation not to give up after watching it. ( I apologize If my grammar is not correct. Greet from Slovakia)

  • @jeanetteclark9530
    @jeanetteclark9530 Před rokem +5

    Am ordering a proportional divider. Wish I had known about this tool years ago! Thanks so much! I know it’s gonna be much better than what I’ve been doing. Like you, I’ve tried just about everything to get that proportion right. Thanks for your advice and expertise, you’re a very good teacher! I enjoy your videos.

  • @ButchCurry
    @ButchCurry Před rokem +6

    ABC: Always Be Comparing!

  • @40bdg
    @40bdg Před rokem +3

    Great video, exactly what I needed! I'm definitely going to give this method a try. You are right, it does seem scary when I am used to using a grid, but like you addressed in the video, that doesn't always work either. Thanks for the tips!

  • @rtaber3065
    @rtaber3065 Před rokem +2

    Your content is so good. I'm glad you made it. I'm gonna pick one of these proportional dividers and try it out. I've always used the end of my paintbrush and used scotch tape to set notches for checking.

  • @mickywoolf120
    @mickywoolf120 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for your tips and techniques! I'm learning a lot! For the time being just watching, soon will go back to drawing and painting. Thank you so much, the way you explain things is very clear and easy to understand. 😊From Portugal

  • @seafirend
    @seafirend Před rokem +4

    Exactly the video I needed! Thanks Chris great vid as always.

  • @7Earthsky
    @7Earthsky Před rokem +1

    I think this is the best method for me to find a likeness in portraits....Will definitely give this a go.

  • @markaszkenasy7395
    @markaszkenasy7395 Před rokem +1

    That’s undoubtably the best video on portrait painting I’ve ever watched. Thank you!!

  • @sal5811
    @sal5811 Před 7 měsíci

    I Used to paint this way all the time and it actually helped me paint with the trace and grid method

  • @claires9100
    @claires9100 Před rokem +4

    Such good advice. Thanks for sharing this technique.

  • @AnimalArtbyTerraCotta
    @AnimalArtbyTerraCotta Před rokem +13

    I never really knew how to use that proportional divider and get the basic coordinates. I hate gridding and so this will be so useful! Thanks! 🥰

    • @jamesaritchie1
      @jamesaritchie1 Před rokem

      My method is just to draw or paint what I see, as I see it. I don't like grids, I don't like proportional dividers, and I very, very rarely use a reference photo. It just takes some practice, something that even many extremely good artists aren't willing to do.

    • @AnimalArtbyTerraCotta
      @AnimalArtbyTerraCotta Před rokem

      @@jamesaritchie1 Impressed that you rarely use a reference photo. If there are eyes involved I certainly want a pict to look at. Thought-provoking method ....

    • @granitrocky1129
      @granitrocky1129 Před rokem +1

      @@jamesaritchie1 Reference is not a dirty word. How do you draw what you see without a reference?

  • @tyroneperry5008
    @tyroneperry5008 Před rokem +1

    Thanks a lot. I been stuck a long time on proportions. You gave me insight on why I keep failing and repeating the same mistakes by getting too serious too soon.

  • @SingYourselfWell
    @SingYourselfWell Před 3 měsíci +2

    Thank you, Chris, this was so great!!!

  • @rebeccateakle3674
    @rebeccateakle3674 Před rokem +1

    So much good info in this, clear delivery and loved it

  • @mick-2098
    @mick-2098 Před rokem +1

    This was a reallly great tutorial! So useful and concise!

  • @tumblingrosesstudio
    @tumblingrosesstudio Před rokem +1

    You are just awesome!! Thank you for this!

  • @ThatJewyJesusChick
    @ThatJewyJesusChick Před rokem +2

    Despite being a watercolor portrait artist-everything he says here translates perfectly-all painful and difficult lessons I’ve had to learn myself over the past few years of trying to hone in on my craft and create a routine manner of making my artwork. Excellent video!👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😉

  • @eliasandrinopoulos8746
    @eliasandrinopoulos8746 Před rokem +2

    Awesome! Very cool technique, advice, and demonstration! So psyched to hit the canvas again tomorrow! 👏🏻😊🎙🙏🏻

  • @oatmeal
    @oatmeal Před rokem +1

    Your tutorials are so great! Thank you for making these.

  • @pch2230
    @pch2230 Před rokem +1

    This is such a good tutorial. Big to small, avoiding tracing and grids (particular bugbears for me), simple to complicated, prioritising shapes and accuracy - all things that are vital to realistic painting, whatever the subject.

  • @hcanderson3787
    @hcanderson3787 Před rokem +1

    Great vid, thanks so much! I will definitely be trying out that proportional divider

  • @paintnknit
    @paintnknit Před rokem +1

    Thanks for your drawing suggestions. Beautiful artwork.

  • @katygardner2741
    @katygardner2741 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for this video! It was really well explained and I'm going to attempt this method in future 😊

  • @PaolaLaborda
    @PaolaLaborda Před rokem

    I found your videos today and I really loved them, they are very helpful, I always love learning new techniques and improving my own skills, and your videos are *chef kiss* I think your style is really classic, and that makes it good for everything! because it is like following an old painter from 1880 haha, it doesn't matter if my style doesn't match yours because your advices and tricks and explanations are part of the basis, everyone that wants to learn how to paint or wants to improve their painting skills should just know. the things you are teaching Thank you!

  • @leonardodalongisland
    @leonardodalongisland Před rokem +1

    GREAT job. Nice break down of things

  • @gwenmoore6034
    @gwenmoore6034 Před rokem +1

    Your videos are sooo helpful!

  • @jcarolblair5614
    @jcarolblair5614 Před rokem +7

    This looks like a great tip for oils! I don’t guess this technique would work with watercolor portraits?

  • @penelopepowers6615
    @penelopepowers6615 Před rokem +1

    Love your style. I use many tips from you. Thank you

  • @mwartz
    @mwartz Před 4 měsíci

    Hi Chris, I have just recently seen you on CZcams as I am making a portfolio for college, your videos are very easy to follow and your a very good teacher and I've learned a lot from your videos 😊 🎨👍, thank you

  • @curtisbutler1050
    @curtisbutler1050 Před rokem +2

    So good. Thank you!

  • @dmp2461
    @dmp2461 Před 11 měsíci

    Love your process. Gonna give it a try.

  • @randomlyswatching9481

    I find your insights so attractive. It's like so intelligent

  • @pranjalshelar3830
    @pranjalshelar3830 Před rokem +1

    Very very enlightening video i must say.... If someone is looking for a perfect guide video for portraita this is it.... I've learned so much... It's like an 800 pages book in 9 pages if you know what i mean... Thanks man🙌🙌

  • @ctee1117
    @ctee1117 Před rokem +1

    You are a great teacher!

  • @sorrymyolduserwasdumb
    @sorrymyolduserwasdumb Před rokem +1

    thank you so much!! this is amazing :))

  • @jamesb2059
    @jamesb2059 Před rokem

    You are a fine teacher. Thank you.

  • @SeekAndYeShallFindGod
    @SeekAndYeShallFindGod Před rokem +1

    Great turorial. Thanks.

  • @yeshuaiscomingbackrepent2357

    THANK YOU! That was perfectly taught! I am wanting to do oil portraits and I have a propotional divider like yours....but I could never use it properly. Great video! 🎨🖌🖋🖊😁

  • @gerriekaychurch658
    @gerriekaychurch658 Před rokem +2

    This is going to really help me!! Thank you

  • @chiricuttcomepapt5100
    @chiricuttcomepapt5100 Před 9 měsíci

    Beautiful class, maestro!

  • @claritzairosario68
    @claritzairosario68 Před rokem +1

    I found your channel, and I love how you teach. Very interesting theme! Thank you, here a new subscriber!!!🥰💙🥰

  • @europeanroyalty4778
    @europeanroyalty4778 Před rokem +6

    Have you heard of evolve Chris where they use 4 values, 8 & 6 and 2 & 4 on a 10 value scale, an extreme and moderate dark, extreme and moderate light, then turn the form with edges? I find this fascinating and I'm curious about your thoughts working this way.

  • @joycetrabattoni721
    @joycetrabattoni721 Před rokem

    Enjoyed your explanation… I will try that!😊

  • @diannaantes5262
    @diannaantes5262 Před rokem

    I'm glad to find you. I am a beginner and I want to paint an old photo of my father with my sisters as we were growing up..
    I hope to eventually be capable of sketching and painting safely at this point .. I'm learning that I can't paint over my sketches yet without it being affected by the pencil ✏️ 😅

  • @JROtoons
    @JROtoons Před rokem

    Works for me! Thanks!

  • @reewowee2485
    @reewowee2485 Před rokem

    nice golden cage around the cages

  • @kimvirginia6450
    @kimvirginia6450 Před rokem

    CZcams randomly tossed this video at me. I thought, “I’ll give it one minute” - You immediately drew me in and I enjoyed watching the whole thing. Excellent instruction. Thank you.

  • @sammirenee_3493
    @sammirenee_3493 Před rokem

    I really loved this! Thank you for sharing your knowledge 🙏🏼 Can you please do a video in the future of how to mix to get skin paint colors? And what brushes you recommend?I honestly struggle with mixing colors and choosing brushes- and it feels like it’s so easy for some. Please help!

  • @mickeymiles351
    @mickeymiles351 Před rokem

    Fantastic tutorial, thank you.

  • @cmkarma5554
    @cmkarma5554 Před měsícem

    Thank you ❤

  • @JackDespero
    @JackDespero Před 8 měsíci +1

    I really enjoyed this video. Than you for sharing!

  • @Silkz0jet
    @Silkz0jet Před rokem

    So much sense in all you are saying here, Chris.

  • @susanmerila4958
    @susanmerila4958 Před 3 měsíci

    A video I've saved to watch again and again in months ahead, whenever I hit a snag....this helps identify WHAT went wrong, WHERE it went wrong, WHY, and HOW to fix. What more could you ask for?

  • @rodcav3
    @rodcav3 Před rokem

    Great tool ,....and well presented tutorial...by the way love the tribute portrait to Ray Liotta in the background..I'm also working on one also of Ray, James Caan and Tony Sirico....
    3 of the greats we lost this year (R.I.P.)

  • @dancer4560
    @dancer4560 Před 9 měsíci

    the more I did face-portrait drawings the easier it became but you must put in the time. I remember a whole semester of just face drawing and at the end of the term I could draw by looking at a face on tv- I never ever thought I could do that but I put in the concentration and time- I love your video because it is how I like to work and I am getting back into it but using pastels now. Would love to get out oils again at some point... TY!!

  • @dorothygladsjo3510
    @dorothygladsjo3510 Před rokem

    “As much of white as possible “ that was an answer I’ve been looking for!

  • @fforw
    @fforw Před rokem +5

    A proportional divider can just as well be used to paint from life if the subject and you are stationary. Just measure with the smaller side on your stretched out arm..

    • @jamesaritchie1
      @jamesaritchie1 Před rokem

      I haven't used anything like a proportional divider, or reference photos, for a lot of years, but I remember on of my teachers always had a proportional divider with him, and often used it just as you say.

    • @fforw
      @fforw Před rokem

      @@jamesaritchie1 Many people use pencils to do the same, but then you are stuck with a one-to-one scale (which works out suprisingly often)..

  • @jananee9311
    @jananee9311 Před rokem

    I'm not getting notifications for some reason but glad to see this video. Was very informative

  • @myrnalandersartist
    @myrnalandersartist Před rokem

    So helpful! Thank you!

  • @ri-ch-es
    @ri-ch-es Před rokem

    I really like your teddy painting

  • @kevincage1641
    @kevincage1641 Před rokem

    Sir, you do gorgeous work. When I grow up my living room is going to resemble yours with my many renderings. Oh, and I'm 64.

  • @mochawitch
    @mochawitch Před rokem +1

    That was some awesome information. Thank you sir 🌹🌹

  • @letsjustdraw2193
    @letsjustdraw2193 Před rokem

    U draw so easily🥺🥺
    So goooodddd🥰🥰🥰

  • @mahanly
    @mahanly Před rokem

    Good tips Coach!

  • @ubernagash
    @ubernagash Před rokem

    Awsome vid man, I do love to paint oils mainly (landscapes), and i have found portraits hard to get in to but after see this i think i will give it a go. 😉

  • @agold1702
    @agold1702 Před rokem +1

    Learned a few new things. Thanks!

  • @tonym994
    @tonym994 Před 11 měsíci

    TR is a great subject! Sargent is one of the best painters I ever saw. and you ain't to shabby.

  • @dbell3269
    @dbell3269 Před rokem

    I made my own proportional divider. Works just fine.

  • @augustasilvis297
    @augustasilvis297 Před rokem

    Thank u so much helped me alot

  • @billg3356
    @billg3356 Před rokem

    I'm digging that that Bill Murray over your shoulder, man!

  • @pumpkinspice1456
    @pumpkinspice1456 Před rokem

    Thank you for this insightful video. Much appreciated ❤. Could you please make a video about how to set up for a self portrait? I always struggle with where to place a mirror and how to keep the posture…

  • @kristinkash2210
    @kristinkash2210 Před rokem +1

    Help. I love your videos. You are my new paint coach. Been watching too many coaches. You’re the right one for me, but I need a video on values. I can’t find one you have done just in values. I’m sure you’ve done one, because you talk about values a lot. Do you have one. Thanks kristin kash.

  • @rThorStone
    @rThorStone Před rokem

    1:25 Darting your eyes back and forth is the best technique you can use, it's sooooo useful

  • @tonym994
    @tonym994 Před rokem

    thank you .I draw, and measuring is the most important part of it. noticed the still from 'GOODFELLAS'. gotta say, you resemble (just watched it) the actor who plays Joe Columbo on 'Godfather of Harlem'. the best part of this lesson was when you said, "in time, you won't need measuring." so I look forward to not using a baggy w/ lines across it, and top to bottom, on my monitor. you do terrific work. will return.

  • @ANAHATAJADE
    @ANAHATAJADE Před rokem

    Thank you for the information on 1:13

  • @sonijam
    @sonijam Před rokem

    Excellent video!

  • @ronvavra
    @ronvavra Před rokem +1

    I started doing pen and ink drawings a few months ago. There is no going back with pen and ink. Since I am doing wild animal works from photos. I trace the proportions. Only outline the key areas then work on the tracing to give it some resemblance to the photo. From there I trace again onto scrap paper which I then finalize as a drawing which I then trace onto my bristol board where I finish the details. By the time I am ready to ink, I have virtually every single ink mark figured out. Less stress.

  • @jimbojet8728
    @jimbojet8728 Před rokem

    Makes good sense. Thanks

  • @prichardgs
    @prichardgs Před rokem

    Excellent!

  • @nafas_hb
    @nafas_hb Před rokem

    Yhank you it was great

  • @CoreyLansdell
    @CoreyLansdell Před rokem

    Very cool business going on here! Really like this.