Among the many things I admire about Mike I'd like to highlight his ability to simplify what is complex. Without deep it advance musical education you can still understand the concepts behind his explanations
I found the air drumming at the end extremely helpful. How he’s able to count this in his head is beyond me, I get the concept but damn the execution is nuts
Damn, I never thought about it this way, never bothered counting the riffs. Would have saved me a couple headaches, as I play this song a lot with my band but we don't have a keyboardist, so on the keyboard solo section I'm always anxious I might get lost lol.
Yeah I'm surprised, at how difficult some people are saying. Counting too high confuses me so I'm just like ok is this more or less times than the thing I did before, essentially...
i've been playing this album (on guitar) for over 16 years and was still iffy on playing this section mike just taught me this literally in 5 minutes. oh :D
That's pretty similar to what we call expansion and reduction in the Konnakol rhythmic system (actually I think it's pretty safe to say that they are using that concept). That being said I had never made the connection with this song before... It makes it even more enjoyable! 😎
this is what missing in all dt songs post portnoy. no more this shrink and grow that function as the buildup.. hell you can find this style mostly in sons of apollo.. it proves that this what portnoy brought to the musical structure and arrangement of dt classic music.
Dream Theater with Mike Mangini is kind of like Black Sabbath with Dio. Still great music with extremely talented replacements, but the magic isn't there.
Funnily enough, me too. I walked into a metal record store while they were blasting this exact section. I had never listened to DT before and thought it's probably some lame progrock or something. It stopped me my right in my tracks. I asked the girl behind the counter what the heck that was and she was just like, oh, that's the new DT. Bought the record instantly.
Very cool. It was interesting to see how keep track of the 'Bars" in sections. In fact watching you recite this reminded me of one of my favorite Rush songs, Bytore and the Snowdog, and the way they counted down its ending. I'm just wandering aloud, but do you guys actually put your efforts down on sheet music while writing it, or do you just recall it from memory.. peace
Hi! Imagine also that this part is the backing track of solo parts :) I suggest you must hear the 2nd album of the band called "images and words" its, a masterpiece. And if a college teaching progressive metal to students, that album will be the main lesson
@@casuspacis3196 this album has too many styles... Pop. Jazz, fushion, ... Song 2 (another day) its a, ballad that has, saxophone. Song 3 (take the time) verse will remind you michael Jackson. Also at the and great drums. The masterpiece is no 5. (no words)
What we did is wrote 12 bars in 46/49 time followed by 3 bars of 37/24 time and one bar of 4/4...which is uncommon for #dreamtheater , but...prog rock. LOL
What a phenomenon!
Among the many things I admire about Mike I'd like to highlight his ability to simplify what is complex. Without deep it advance musical education you can still understand the concepts behind his explanations
Yeeessssssss
Me too
if a seemingly complex problem has an easy solution/ explanation, does that problem become easy?
Actually it's the other way around he makes a simple 4/4 complex and insane.
@@estrangeibanez3051 do you know what odd time is? Not everything has to be in 4/4 like a plebian
I have listened to this song so many times, how have I never noticed this?
Because there are solos on top
Because that guitar solo is fire 🔥
exactly me too!
One of the things I love about this band is the way they do things like this, just because they can!
Same...I guess that only speaks to the quality of the solos, and that everything remains musical even as this very unique sequence is happening
Scenes From a Memory is an absolute masterpiece. Lightning in a bottle.
It's the whole thunderstorm in a bottle 😅
@@Goreuncle Agreed.
My favorite album in all of music.
I found the air drumming at the end extremely helpful. How he’s able to count this in his head is beyond me, I get the concept but damn the execution is nuts
He’s not only a great drummer. He’s a great musician!
What's even more remarkable is that this flies over the head of over 99% of people. Genius.
LOL so true
My favorite track from that album along with "Home".
I've always struggled my way through this section when I try to play this song, but after this explanation it makes so much sense
True
This entire section is my favorite part of the Dream Theater discography. Fatal Tragedy is always on my playlist for drum warmups.
Mike portnoy mind tricks still gets me after over 20 years listening to this song and never realize about this “shrink and grow”
Damn, I never thought about it this way, never bothered counting the riffs. Would have saved me a couple headaches, as I play this song a lot with my band but we don't have a keyboardist, so on the keyboard solo section I'm always anxious I might get lost lol.
So, now you ll have less headaches!! :)
This is literally the way my mind thinks and the way I explain and sing music to explain sections to everyone hahaha
Yeah I'm surprised, at how difficult some people are saying. Counting too high confuses me so I'm just like ok is this more or less times than the thing I did before, essentially...
i've been playing this album (on guitar) for over 16 years and was still iffy on playing this section
mike just taught me this literally in 5 minutes.
oh :D
What a phenomenon!
Man did I wear this VHS out back in the day.
The Soul of DT !
Luv the air drumming at the very end.
Keeping it real (and humble?). It says to me, he's still a "fan" (of music & drumming) not just the performer.
Then he said "what a phenomenon.... what a phenomenon" 🤣🤣🤣
Wow. Never noticed the shrink and grow until he pointed it out. Really cool stuff.
It's so cool to see a drummer with such obscenely short arms play drums just like a regular person.
What LoL
@@BurrenSHdrums I think it was a joke because of the 4x shirt hes rockin. lookin like a T rex
Mike Portnoy is not a regular person
That's pretty similar to what we call expansion and reduction in the Konnakol rhythmic system (actually I think it's pretty safe to say that they are using that concept). That being said I had never made the connection with this song before... It makes it even more enjoyable! 😎
This part is my favorite part of this entire album!!!!!!, when I noticed I was blown away with how geniuses these guys are!
i can't believe i've listened to this song so many times but never realized this was going on lmfao
One of my favorite songs
That solo is one of my (if not) favorite solos from John.
I remember watching this religiously when I was learning! Portnoy is amazing
i love mangini but i also miss portnoy
Mangini is robotic. Amazing but robotic. Portnoy brings so much emotion. Imho.
@@ItsAllBallBearings same might as well play the drum track live
this is what missing in all dt songs post portnoy. no more this shrink and grow that function as the buildup.. hell you can find this style mostly in sons of apollo.. it proves that this what portnoy brought to the musical structure and arrangement of dt classic music.
Dream Theater with Mike Mangini is kind of like Black Sabbath with Dio. Still great music with extremely talented replacements, but the magic isn't there.
I have news for you guys
I liked the part when he went “duggada da da da duggada da da da”
I can follow him perfectly here, but every time I listen to the song I get lost. Absolutely amazing that he could play it live no hiccups.
Thank god this video exists, so that I can learn this and be able to play that section myself
Rush’s By-Tor And The Snow Dog has a shrink section in it. These shrink and grow type things are also common drum exercises.
The Kevin Smith of drumming. Idk what that means, but it sounds cool
Unison! :D
It's not complete unless you do the unison dance
I've listened to this sooooo many times and never even realized that's what they were doing. mind sufficiently blown
The solos get all the attention and I get that for sure but I've always loved the rhythm guitar in this section.
The riffs are epic
This song is what made me love DT.
Funnily enough, me too. I walked into a metal record store while they were blasting this exact section. I had never listened to DT before and thought it's probably some lame progrock or something. It stopped me my right in my tracks. I asked the girl behind the counter what the heck that was and she was just like, oh, that's the new DT. Bought the record instantly.
@@honigdachs. lol confession. I rented this particular video and never took it back. Ironically someone borrowed it and didn't gave it back. Damn't!
The greatest of all time
Thanks for the upload man, pure gold!
Love this arrangement! Excellent!!
This Silent Bob guy seems really nice, hope his career playing drums works out.
Man, that's awesome!
thanks for uploading!
This is actually genius
Wow I never noticed this going on in the song before.
So smart
And I just thought it was a cool section. My brain has exploded.
OHH It's as simple as that?...diggada diggada - Huh??
That PC monitor! 🤣
Very cool. It was interesting to see how keep track of the 'Bars" in sections. In fact watching you recite this reminded me of one of my favorite Rush songs, Bytore and the Snowdog, and the way they counted down its ending. I'm just wandering aloud, but do you guys actually put your efforts down on sheet music while writing it, or do you just recall it from memory.. peace
The master, good show.
Thanks for the upload. That´s insane.
This video made me shrink and grow
He'sa genius
Interesting stuff to keep repeatedly watching
Whoever disliked this video must have clicked it on accident.
It was there all the time...
You are an inspiration to me and many. Well explained the concept. 😍👌👌
I wish he was in Dream Theater again.
One of the best drummers in The World...................end of discussion !!!!!
thought mike was gonna shrink and grow
That’s what she said
OMG it’s Rudy Ayoub without being Rudy Ayoub! 🤯🤯🤯
Thank u Gerrard butler.. Oh, sorry, Mike portnoy....
I still won't listen until I can digest the vocals. As a cookie monster vocal fan, this will be tough.
I never noticed this, it's very cool. And it's actually the same concept as Batmacumba, by Os Mutantes (circa 68)
Ah yes, the marching grid exercise but prog
This is gold
didnt know nothing about this dude and this band, but damn its cool
Hi! Imagine also that this part is the backing track of solo parts :)
I suggest you must hear the 2nd album of the band called "images and words" its, a masterpiece. And if a college teaching progressive metal to students, that album will be the main lesson
@@JohnFas hey man, thanks, I'll check it out. Not really into metal stuff, but certainly into some drumming shenanigans
@@casuspacis3196 this album has too many styles... Pop. Jazz, fushion, ...
Song 2 (another day) its a, ballad that has, saxophone.
Song 3 (take the time) verse will remind you michael Jackson. Also at the and great drums.
The masterpiece is no 5.
(no words)
Figured it out, Portnoy went on to become Tom Nash
What we did is wrote 12 bars in 46/49 time followed by 3 bars of 37/24 time and one bar of 4/4...which is uncommon for #dreamtheater , but...prog rock. LOL
Love it! Yeah, that is pretty much crazy...
4:09 Mike Portnoy So Cute
some of the most math rock shit ive ever heard
I totally get it....
You silly rascal! 🏆
Duguda-Dada Duguda-Dada Duguda-Dada
Portnoy can beatbox
It's funny because this part is one if the least complex out of the entire album.
you need concentration to just count it much more play it
He looks like Daniel Radcliff
ayo his drumset
this is mindbow *-*
4:08 😅❤❤❤😅
Cool concept!
Way better than the synthetic garbage on the radio today
That’s genius lol 😂
Simplemente son unos genios
Doesn't seem to complicated me. Just a matter of getting the composition down. I play more complicated things in my death metal band.
Damn I didn't know Chris Moltisanti started drumming
amazing
that dude from sopranos plays drums?
Wow
essentially!
i wouldve gave up already
Imagine if you showed this video to someone who doesn’t know english😂
What’s that gold shit he’s hittin at 1:18
DING.....How is that for relative pitch?
bagada DA baga DA baga DA
I like it better without the guitar solo on top. And I’m a guitar player.
Why him head so big