I know I'm seeing this WAY after the fact, but I was just recommended your channel because of my love of industrial machining vids. That said, That is the BIGGEST damn "micro"meter I have EVER seen! NICE TOY!
Thanks Chris, it was nice to see the flame hardening at the end, and also see the mating with the other part! Your live hacking of G-Code is impressive!
Awesome looking piece. Machining at its finest Chris! Nothing like seeing what lurks inside that ugly raw piece of steel! I miss making those hot corn chips but didn't like getting hit by them.
Can't believe the part wasn' forged closer to final shape oven if it is an open die forging. Much stronger part. Much less waste. Can't believe all that was in there, surface finish and all, before the machinist uncovered it.
I was thinking the same but then again, if its not a mass produced part, it might be the customer does not care about the extra cost of longer machining time. And perhaps the extra machining time is less expensive than a more elaborate forging process.
@@ChrisMaj I see no issues in a manual lathe. Have done the same. In a CNC however it can be bad. I saw a guy almost loose his hand cause he forgot and hit the pedal to take the part out and the whole 15” 3 jaw chuck fell on his hand. His hand was crushed pretty bad.
@@jimhimesjr we do some stuff with 4-jaw chucked into hydraulic 3-jaw on our CNC, first thing I do after getting the 4jaw chucked up I turn the pedal away from me, first thing my coworker said me when I was learning how to operate that lathe :D Well, got 250mm 4-jaw chucked into 250mm 3-jaw to make some face grooves into 6mm round alu plate with 4 mickey-mouses (professional term!) on it´s OD 90° apart.... pretty normal thing to mount a chuck into a chuck, nothing to be worried about
@@piter_sk They typically had the pedal hidden but forgot to this one time. Daylight guy set the job up and 2nd shift guys hand got mangled on the first part change of his shift. Be careful is all I’m saying.
Nie odbieraj tego że się czepiam następnym razem kazał bym wypiaskować lub wyśrutować detal przed obróbka (powinieneś zostać mistrzem produkcji wiórów ) detal niczego sobie fajny daje do myślenia co jemu się takie linie porobiły.
Great vid as always, thanks Chris. In regard to that forging, is it not possible for them to have forged a tapper on it to give you a bit less to have to rough off?
"TAPER" FFS! Seemed like a huge waste of time and material to me as well. Can't understand why the blank forging couldn't be a lot close to the finished shape than it was.
That was an open die forging, the modern equivalent to what a blacksmith produced. Tapers like a Morse type are possible. But this shape is nigh impossible open die and would require a set of closed dies, a large expense.
@@keithjurena9319 Easiest option I can think of would be casting, but that would mean different material properties that I'm assuming would not be ideal in this part.
If you machine after flame hardening, do you have to change speeds & feeds? Looked like it was machining just fine after hardening. How hard will it wind up after machining?
Is it awkward to tweak sizes with the conversation cycles on the fanuc controller? I never bothered to used them myself. Always used g71 and g70 cycles.
@@ChrisMaj Great work. What's your trick to hold such close tolerance on those big parts. Also thanks for showing stuff, not just talking, like most machining channels do. There's only few CZcams channels, that show big heavy machining, only only couple that shows the setup and step by step process. Trade school/college would not teach you that.
@@Andrey222ful There is no trick. First, hopefully your machine is in good shape that can handle tight tolerances and second, work on your measuring technique, make sure you get it right.
@@Andrey222ful Something that has helped me to hold a close tolerance on very costly parts is to add to the program a test cut of about half inch in length leaving about .01 to .015 stock, using same speed and feed as the actual finish cut. I measure that diameter to see how it compares to what I programed. Make an offset if needed and then I run my finish cut. 15 minutes to avoid the walk of shame to the front office ☹️
@@mikeep1000 Thanks for the tip. What's your usually final pass? 0.005" or less, because if less then it rubs and leaves a bad sometimes uneven finish.
Hace años trabaje en un torno vertical shibaura el husillo cuadrado y la forma que hace el cambio de herramientas el mismo tipo de mordaza el control es diferente pero me trajo muy buenos recuerdos
Not often you see a vertical borer.... I had to use dials.... 😉..... On all the machines.... Well the ones they let me near.... Lathes, Mills, slotter of death... You know the ones...... Y'all take care now
Dobre Panie Krzychu :) bylo troche skrawania... podoba mi sie jak Pan plytki wykozystal. Ps. nigdy nawet nie widzialem karuzeli a tutaj na poczatku zyrafe Pan pokazal :) PPs. Od tego mialem zaczac: Mitsubishi to chyba juz wszystko co sie da to wyprodukowalo w czasie swojej egzystencji... takie mam osobiste wrazenie :) Pozdrawiam
I can't be the only person who find the rough turning segment to be so satisfying to watch...
The unevenness of the metal is crazy
i love that you have a smaller chuck in the larger chuck, instead of changing chucks ^^
I know I'm seeing this WAY after the fact, but I was just recommended your channel because of my love of industrial machining vids. That said, That is the BIGGEST damn "micro"meter I have EVER seen! NICE TOY!
Seems like youtube is working in my favor. Hope you'll check out more videos.
I swear, this dude is an artist of hardened metal
Very cool. Love the music at the end.👍👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Great job, Chris! Congratulations and respect!
Thank you so much 😀
Excelente trabajo. Compañero. Bendiciones.
Beautiful work!
Wow! Never knew CNC machines could mill stuff this big. Very impressive; fun to watch. Thanks!
You mean turn....It's a lathe
Fantastische Arbeit...einfach nur Mega😀😀😀
Danke, ich weiß das zu schätzen
Super robota detal wykonany cudnie :)
W stalowni tak ładnie długo nie będzie wyglądał.
Damn, thats the biggest live center ive ever seen
Everything about this video is impressive. Thanks for sharing your skills with us.
I'm glad you like it.
amazing finish turning affter hardening in the universal chuck
Amazing video! Keep it up!
Perfekcja - jak zawsze, Panie Chris ;-)
The carbide insert looks very good
Многие поняли? DCBNR + CNMG гениально👍👍👍
At the tire shop they use a smaller one of these tapered spindles when they balance my wheels and tires
Класс!
Крис, ты красавчик в своём деле! ⚙️🔩🛠️
Thanks Chris, it was nice to see the flame hardening at the end, and also see the mating with the other part! Your live hacking of G-Code is impressive!
Well thank you, I'm glad you liked it.
He wasnt hardening the part he was heating it to expand the bore probably a .003-.005 press fit on the shaft
Great work.
Awesome looking piece. Machining at its finest Chris! Nothing like seeing what lurks inside that ugly raw piece of steel! I miss making those hot corn chips but didn't like getting hit by them.
Amazing project should be displayed for all to be admired. Well done!
It's not going to look like this for long.
Muy bueno que modernas es la máquina muy prolijo saludo desde Rafael Calzada.Buenos Aires.Argentina
Goodway CNC , Amazing !
Yes the tool change on the Goodway vertical mill-turn center is painfully slow. Goodway makes a very good machine though.
14:00 That's not a micrometer, it's a MACROmeter! :D
Superb work Chris, I would never have coped with the CNC as I liked my bridge port and a .200th leadscrew remembering the back lash lol
Glad you enjoyed it
Kawał dobrej roboty 😊pozdrowiam
Dzięki 👍
Карусельный с CNC. Когда-то обслуживал такие. Электронику. Интересная была работа.
that must have cost a fortune to machine. that CNC lathe is a monster. what a massive chuck. nice work
This is still small for a vertical turning center. This can also do 4-axis milling.
Can't believe the part wasn' forged closer to final shape oven if it is an open die forging. Much stronger part. Much less waste.
Can't believe all that was in there, surface finish and all, before the machinist uncovered it.
I was thinking the same thing. There was way more weight in shavings than the finished product 😮
I was thinking the same but then again, if its not a mass produced part, it might be the customer does not care about the extra cost of longer machining time. And perhaps the extra machining time is less expensive than a more elaborate forging process.
Super nice video 👍🏻
Boss: Not bad for 20 minutes of work, next time do it in 10.
Me:
You must work where I do.
The owner turns into Rain Man flipping over People's Court
🤣
Very impressive, I’ve never seen a Chuck mounted in a Chuck before.
Some people don't really like that idea, but it saves me a lot of time.
@@ChrisMaj I see no issues in a manual lathe. Have done the same. In a CNC however it can be bad. I saw a guy almost loose his hand cause he forgot and hit the pedal to take the part out and the whole 15” 3 jaw chuck fell on his hand. His hand was crushed pretty bad.
@Jim Himes I don't have that problem. None of my chucks are hydraulic.
@@jimhimesjr we do some stuff with 4-jaw chucked into hydraulic 3-jaw on our CNC, first thing I do after getting the 4jaw chucked up I turn the pedal away from me, first thing my coworker said me when I was learning how to operate that lathe :D Well, got 250mm 4-jaw chucked into 250mm 3-jaw to make some face grooves into 6mm round alu plate with 4 mickey-mouses (professional term!) on it´s OD 90° apart.... pretty normal thing to mount a chuck into a chuck, nothing to be worried about
@@piter_sk They typically had the pedal hidden but forgot to this one time. Daylight guy set the job up and 2nd shift guys hand got mangled on the first part change of his shift. Be careful is all I’m saying.
Негода одобряет подобную экономию металла. :)
маловероятно, ибо экономии около 0.
How many hours to make? I did some steam gates for the New Jersey, and three air craft carriers on a Mori Sikie LL7.
Lots of turning 😀
Master of Machining
Ausgezeichnet!! Vielen Dank.
Definitely a “measure twice cut once” situation
Yeah, you got that right.
Precision of 0? AWESOME O_O
Hi Cheis
Nie odbieraj tego że się czepiam następnym razem kazał bym wypiaskować lub wyśrutować detal przed obróbka (powinieneś zostać mistrzem produkcji wiórów ) detal niczego sobie fajny daje do myślenia co jemu się takie linie porobiły.
No niestety, gdzie duże sztuki to i dużo wiór. Te linie to zostały po hartowaniu płomieniowym ,czy jak to tam po waszemu nazywają (flame hardening)
Awesome work. Great to see some of the live programming.
I don't know if it is a live center for a lathe but it looks like one.
Great vid as always, thanks Chris. In regard to that forging, is it not possible for them to have forged a tapper on it to give you a bit less to have to rough off?
I've heard that it's difficult to get a tapper on a forging, especially something like this where there's nothing to grab on to, but I might be wrong.
"TAPER" FFS!
Seemed like a huge waste of time and material to me as well. Can't understand why the blank forging couldn't be a lot close to the finished shape than it was.
@@christopherdean1326 Maybe more expensive to forge the cone shape more, than to machine it?. And at least all the swarf is recyclable .
That was an open die forging, the modern equivalent to what a blacksmith produced. Tapers like a Morse type are possible. But this shape is nigh impossible open die and would require a set of closed dies, a large expense.
@@keithjurena9319 Easiest option I can think of would be casting, but that would mean different material properties that I'm assuming would not be ideal in this part.
26" = 660.4 mm
Bro
26'=mm? Tell me please
@@mohd.shadab-0783 1"=25.4
26*25.4=660.4
@@sparmar4884 " Second ka simble hota h na
On le sais tqt
Спасибо
If you machine after flame hardening, do you have to change speeds & feeds? Looked like it was machining just fine after hardening. How hard will it wind up after machining?
красота) все по уму ! оператор станка красавчик !
Fantastic
Usinage de haute technologie 👍
*Trabalho MARAVILHOSO. ... Parabéns. ... Beetho, da "Boomerang Flowers Band ®", de Belo Horizonte (MG), Brasil.*
I'm over here in Cape Girardeau Missouri and was wondering if you could make a nose cone thing and send it to me. I'm making a coffee table..
Nice 😊
Шикарно, жаль никогда не поработать на таком оборудовании, прям завидую...
Good to see windows xp in use
thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Ładne GUI ma ten panel. Uzyskana część - piękna.
No staram się.
I work on a vertical lathe with a 4 meter diameter bushing, I make high voltage electric motors
nice job
Thank you! Cheers!
How many time you need to complete all the process?
Impressive to see that huge hula dance at the beginning to near zero deflection after your first top cut.
fortella la pendant fer the dusrry planner!!
Where does the company you work for get their forgings ?
Is that the same part on the horizontal lathe as the vertical one? The size of them seem so different.
Yeah it's the same part.
Is this a major tool? I know they have some huge machinery
good job
Thanks
Не слабые допуски для такой крупной деталюшки.
How many machine hours did that take?
How long did it take to make it?
Impressive
Thanks 👍
What's the cycle time for the roughing?
There was some amount of material to remove on that blank.
Tell you the truth, I don't remember. We are a repair shop so we don't count every second. I just have to get the job done.
@@ChrisMaj The raw part didn't look that broken ^^
Was relaxing to watch you(r/ at) work
Is it awkward to tweak sizes with the conversation cycles on the fanuc controller? I never bothered to used them myself. Always used g71 and g70 cycles.
Probably 80% of programming I do is on FANUC manual guide. You can quickly change between roughing and finishing cycles.
What are they used for mate I've seen you do these before amazing quality
They use it somewhere in the steel mill. I don't really know the details.
It's an uncoiler mandrel for steel coils.
Did you nail the 13.999 +.001 -.000 bore on the first pass? Or did you have to iterate? 🤔
I usually take two finish cuts. There's no room for "maybe I'll get it the first time "
@@ChrisMaj Great work. What's your trick to hold such close tolerance on those big parts. Also thanks for showing stuff, not just talking, like most machining channels do. There's only few CZcams channels, that show big heavy machining, only only couple that shows the setup and step by step process. Trade school/college would not teach you that.
@@Andrey222ful There is no trick. First, hopefully your machine is in good shape that can handle tight tolerances and second, work on your measuring technique, make sure you get it right.
@@Andrey222ful Something that has helped me to hold a close tolerance on very costly parts is to add to the program a test cut of about half inch in length leaving about .01 to .015 stock, using same speed and feed as the actual finish cut. I measure that diameter to see how it compares to what I programed. Make an offset if needed and then I run my finish cut. 15 minutes to avoid the walk of shame to the front office ☹️
@@mikeep1000 Thanks for the tip. What's your usually final pass? 0.005" or less, because if less then it rubs and leaves a bad sometimes uneven finish.
Yo siempre he dicho que el hombre siempre su veneno más grande. Es criticar criticar no se arregla nada. Y cada quien haga su. Chamba
0:14 OD = 26” (152mm)? 🤔
It's 660 mm. How did I miss that 🤔
@@ChrisMaj ... whats 20" between friends .... social distancing !! 😂
@@ChrisMaj Most important you didn't set it wrong into the machine.
@@Peppins I would have noticed it sooner or later 😅
now i want a vertical lathe
Hace años trabaje en un torno vertical shibaura el husillo cuadrado y la forma que hace el cambio de herramientas el mismo tipo de mordaza el control es diferente pero me trajo muy buenos recuerdos
I thought that kind of Micrometer lives only on a fairy tale, well I just saw a legend.
Those are some huge cuts!
Ого оборотов😮
At 15 s, The OD and ID are both converted to 152 mm. The OD should be 660 mm.
厉害了
what time? tr? te? i think about 40h for one part? Nice Work!
What is a mandrel cone ? What does it do ?
Colll👍👏👏👏
The best iou worc en metal👍👍👍
Wondering what it is for???
Игорь Негода такую заготовку на ТВ-4 обточит, как здрасти!
да уж ) а если за дело возьмутся еще еще Бербраер и Певцов с молчуном, то я думаю они за 4 минуты уложатся, из которых 3 будут спорить кто начнет )))
how many hrs dis that take?
👍👍👍 that was awesome, thanks
You bet
was hatte das für eine Laufzeit ?
The cush work for a shop, chips & smoke with long cycle times
That’s exactly how I make crusher bearings .from scratch
How much time it's taken
Pozdrawiam 👍😁
Wzajemnie.
Not often you see a vertical borer.... I had to use dials.... 😉..... On all the machines.... Well the ones they let me near.... Lathes, Mills, slotter of death... You know the ones...... Y'all take care now
Nice
Dobre Panie Krzychu :) bylo troche skrawania... podoba mi sie jak Pan plytki wykozystal.
Ps. nigdy nawet nie widzialem karuzeli a tutaj na poczatku zyrafe Pan pokazal :)
PPs. Od tego mialem zaczac: Mitsubishi to chyba juz wszystko co sie da to wyprodukowalo w czasie swojej egzystencji... takie mam osobiste wrazenie :)
Pozdrawiam