Vinyl Railing Attached to Concrete Porch and Stairs
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- čas přidán 7. 04. 2019
- In this video, I'll go into detail on how to install vinyl railing in concrete. It's the same procedure on a wood deck if the posts are already in. I am using Weather Wise brand, but it'll be similar for most brands.
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This video is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for being clear and concise. I now feel like I know what to do.
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Great tutorial and tips. I’ve watched a few and yours was the best so far. Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks bud, great video, I have to do this in the spring. It's easier than I thought. Thanks
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Very informative. Thank you. The tips are very important.
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Well done and thanks for all the tips! This is the best video like this I’ve found on CZcams! 👍
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Thanks, super nice effort! Excellent job!
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great video! helped me alot! thanks!
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Great video, very helpful
Thank you!
great video!! we have a brick front porch so I hope it will hold like yours did on the concrete. thanks
It should... if you find the screws are to tight in the brick.. you could make the hole slightly bigger so it doesn't break off on you... :-) Try it on one to see how it acts..
@@TheHomeImprovementChannel will do ...thanks so much
Great Video thanks.
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Excellent video thank you
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Great video. Thanks
Glad you liked it! You're welcome.. 🙂
I wish I could just hire you to do the job.
LOL... depends where you are...
Great tutorial. Wher did you buy your products? Usually the rail brackets are about 45° and the one you used was cut to the angle you needed.
I bought the brackets from a local supplier. I don't remember if the brackets were cut at 90 degrees and I cut them myself. Seems like I measured the angle on the stairs and then cut the brackets to that angle.. 45 degrees would be to steep, stairs are usually around 30 or so..
Thanks for the video. I am looking at Lowes Prescot vinyl brand and was curious about the metal post you put the sleeve over. That seems smarter than wood most definitely. Is it specific to your brand? Thanks!
NO, it should work because the vinyl sleeve that goes over the metal post is made for a wood 4x4... so they're all the same size. The metal post comes with standoff's to fit the vinyl sleeve
@@TheHomeImprovementChannel Does Lowe’s or Home Depot have thos metal posts, or where did you find them?
@@hxd9321 I found them from a local dealer that was close to me. I am not sure about Lowes, but I think Home Depot has their own version of the railing. IT's a different brand, but the principle should be the same.
Thanks for this video. Will help a lot when I install my railing. One question, though. Do you use the leveling plate for concrete? The ones I'm looking at say the 'leveling' plate is for under a deck and is not used for concrete installing.
HI! You're probably right I didn't have to use the leveling plate for the concrete since the posts have their own plate welded to the bottom. It makes sense to use it under a wood deck with bolts, nuts and washers and that will hold much better than a lag bolt would... It's been so long now, I don't remember if the instructions said to use it or not for concrete. I don't think it does anything but act like a spacer.
enjoyed your process of teaching us how to do the installation. Would you share the link of the place where you purchase your vinyl railing? I like it and I would like to get the same kind. thanks
Sabe Todo hi... I got it from a local distributor.. but the manufacturer is actually here in Virginia.. here’s their website... they might have a distributor in your area... thanks for the comment
mvpweatherwise.com/va/fredericksburg/vinyl-railings.php
Great video! I want to install these on my front porch. I only have 2 steps with pillars at the top of the steps supporting the roof, but the steps are at 17 degrees instead of the normal 30 (each step is 24.5" deep and 7.5" tall). I can't find any stair rail systems that claim to accommodate this angle. They all say 30-45 degrees. Any advice? Do you know if even though they say 30 degrees minimum they can be made to work with less then that? Or alternatively, if I make the stair rails 30 degrees on my 17-degree steps, would that look awkward?
Dustin, the rails will probably have trouble installing at that 17 degree angle. The reason I can see is when you install the pickets into the upper and lower they aren't meant to flex enough to get that low angle. Or if they do flex enough, you'll have big gaps where the pickets install into the squares. I can't remember which way the problem will be. I think it'll be the 2nd one. You'd have to buy them and see if it'll work, but I have a feeling there will be a problem. Don't cut anything and make sure you can return them before buying them incase they don't! The other problem I see without looking at it is those wide steps is at 24.5 inches, there will be a huge gap at the riser (the place where each step goes up) being 7.5" tall. Code usually requires no more than a 4" round ball can pass though there (if I remember right). I think the reason is so a child can't get their head stuck in the gap. I think it'll probably work, but might look a little odd. If there were steps there before, they probably had the same thing happen with the gap.
@@TheHomeImprovementChannel thanks, I hadn't thought about the code issue. I bought all the parts online from home Depot, when they arrive I'll test the fit and if it isn't going to work out I'll be able to return them. Thanks for your quick reply!
You're welcome.. Yes, Home Depot is great about returns.. 🙂
@@TheHomeImprovementChannel I wanted to follow up on this. The problem was really the brackets. They don't have enough flexibility to support less then 30 degrees. So I solved the problem by 3D-printing "wedges" that match the size and shape of the brackets. The wedges were printed in white plastic to match the vinyl, and sit between the brackets and the posts. You were also right about gaps where the pickets install into the squares, but I'm not really concerned about that. I have pictures I can send you once I figure out where to find you. ;)
@@dustinwoodhouse1940 Wow! I think that's the most ingenious solution I've heard yet! Thanks for sharing. You can upload pictures to my other channels Facebook page at take a bath productions if you have access to Facebook...
Trying to figure out which manufacturer is the overall best with easy like to install and strength, durability, userfriendly. Trex? I would like to know the pros and cons to Trex railing installation or PVC vs all aluminum or vinyl slips over aluminum cores? What works best for certain situations, like wood decks and concrete porches? Looking for installer opinions, thanks
I haven't used Trex brand specifically, but i've seen it and it looks as good as anything else. I myself prefer the PVC with a aluminum core because it's strong, and the PVC will last for a long time. But the all aluminum will too, it's just not what I like better, somebody else will tell you something different!.... I don't think there's any one system that's really that much better than the other, I think it's more a matter of preference.
Do it yourself, No matter what it will never be perfect.
What size drill bit do I need to drill the four holes for the post and what screws do I need for masonary/concrete?
The screws are going to be different for different manufacturers... I think I might have said in the video which one I was using.. I don't remember... Usually those post kits will come with screws and then it will tell u what size drill bit to use... just be careful not to let the screw break off in the concrete if it starts getting to tight..
1/4"
hold the anchor screw up to drill bit. screw should be just a little over 1/16" wider than drill. also.ream hole because too tight will make bolt snap and you'll be "screwed"
What are the bracket called you bolt to the step. I'm having trouble locating them at Home Depot or Lowes. Thanks
This is one style I found on Amazon.. :www.amazon.com/Vinyl-Fence-Concrete-Mount-Mounting/dp/B076C7MLKW/ref=asc_df_B076C7MLKW/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=241927836636&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17980708283911543900&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1015064&hvtargid=pla-623957807409&psc=1
Does the bottom post need to be on the bottom step or can it be on the sidewalk leading to the first step?
I think it'll work either way, you just have to make sure if it's on the sidewalk that the post is still tall enough to meet code requirements for rail height in your area. Here's it's 34"-38" from the nose of the step.😊😊
What brand is that?! I just bought the varanda brand at Home Depot and the inserts are composite yours looks like aluminum and the brackets look aluminum and slide into place! Much better than what I bought. I haven’t installed it yet but I was wondering how strong can the rails be going into composite! Please reply ASAP as I am thinking of returning mine. Please some info on where you purchased and what brand also are those 1/4 inch concrete screws? Thanks!
HI, I got the railing from a local distributor in Fredericksburg, VA. The manufacturer at least I think they're the manufacturer was Mid Atlantic Vinyl Products. Their number is 540-891-5072. I don't know if they sell to the public or not since I got them through the distributor..the distributors name is ABC supply (540) 710-0800. I don't know if they ship, but you could ask them. These might have been more expensive than Home Depot. This rails I put on the front porch were about $600! Which I thought was outrageous.. the concrete posts did run the price up quite a bit. Yes, those screws came with the concrete posts ... Hope this helps. Thanks..
Thank you sir for info and response
@@GM-wn7sb You're welcome..
I wish you listed all the railing parts and where you purchased them!
HI, the place I got them from was a local small dealer and wouldn't mean anything to someone that's not in that area. Sorry I didn't list the parts. It's basically railing, there's not much to it. Upper rail, lower rail, the metal post, the vinyl sleeve. Stuff like that. Those rails usually come with the mounting hardware and the screws needed and the metal posts come with the hardware as well.
Where do buy the railings? Thank you
They're going to be different from one place to another. I got these at my local supply store. The brand was weather wise.... here's their website, u can see if there's a supplier close by. But many different makers make something similar. Hope this helps...
www.mvpweatherwise.com/
What was you method to insure that both top and bottom posts were centered to each other?
I measured from the wall on the right and made them both the same. IN a situation like this, always look for a common reference and it will work out just fine. 😊
Thanks for your video to show how to drill holes in to the concrete, what kind of drill are you used? Hammer drill or any regular drill?
A hammer drill is the way to go.. I've used a hammer drill that's on a cordless drill and they work ok for drilling small holes in brick mortar, but for solid concrete a wall powered one is much better..
My railing is wobbly, is it too late to take it apart and do this using the metal post? It was just installed 1 month ago!
No it shouldn't be to late. I can't see it so not sure why it's wobbly. Is there a metal post screwed into the concrete?
close to the edge ....down by the river... rudy tody......
How much did you pay for the whole package of rails? By the way it looks so nice but I'm scare to mess up the whole thing and make it go to waste
I bought that along with rails for the back deck... it was very expensive. I believe that little section in the front was $550-$600... Of course those steel posts for concrete didn't help with the price tag..
What brand and where did you get them? TIA
Can I install vinyl railing on interlock pavers?
Maybe.. are they attached to the ground firmly? If so, it might be tricky to drill through without cracking them, but it could probably be done with a sharp bit and go extra slow..
What brand of railings are they. Looks like the Lincoln Freedom from Lowes.
I got them from a local manufacturer that just happened to be in the town I was living in. It looks like they have since gone belly up, or theyve been bought out. They were called "Weather Wise"
@@TheHomeImprovementChannel ok, thanks.
What store did you get your materials for this job
It was called Weather Wise, I'm not sure if they are still in business or not. I tried to google them and came up with some other name, so maybe they've been bought out... Most railing installs in a similar way.
Wish there was links for the rods, plates, & tools used in the descriptions.
HI, I got the rails and hardware from a local store so there would't be any links.
@@TheHomeImprovementChannel Found just about everything on Home Depot under Veranda. Only thing I need to look for are the bolts used to keep them in place, & the type of drill/drill bit needed to dig into the but that should be plenty easy. Everything came a bit over 500 bucks since I also went for the white solar post caps.
Oh cool... Yes Home Depot has some of the vinyl railing although it's a different brand than what I used. The principals are the same. Mine came with the bolts for the concrete. IF yours doesn't Home Depot also has Hilti anchors that will work great. I used a hammer drill for the concrete. IF you don't have one, many home depot stores have a tool rental center built into the store. You can easily rent a hammer drill and the appropriate size bit for your anchors so you don't have to buy one.
@@TheHomeImprovementChannel Thanks for that info because it's coming today and wasn't sure I had the right equipment.
Need to contactor to install one for my balcony.how can. I get someone to do it
HI.. Have you tried searching for one in your area?
where did you buy them?
I got them at a local supply house. You can buy vinyl railing at many different places.. I think Lowe's and Home Depot carry a line, but I'm not sure what they look like.
How did you cut the old metal railing out so close to the slab? What tool did you use to cut it?
I think I used a sawsall about 1/4 inch above the concrete, then used a hammer to flatten it down..
Hey I’m getting into doing this but I’m learning what should I charge for labor ..can you help with a tip ? how much should I charge a client approximately to install these railings system
Great awesome video thank you for sharing I have subscribed 👍
The labor will depend on how long you think it'll take you. Its going to be different for different situations. I don't do railing everyday, so I don't have a set price that I have in mind. One tool that you can use is the home advisor "how much should this cost" tool... I use that sometimes as a reference. See if this link works:
www.homeadvisor.com/cost/
@@TheHomeImprovementChannel Ok Thank You i was just hoping to know were to start for a project similar to yours..
I've been nailing people for $600 to $700 per stair railing and a return, and made a shitload of money this summer.
The Home Improvement Channel Sounds great Thank very much for the tip 👍
Edward Comiskey Hey brother thank You very much for the information I really appreciated 👍
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Looks good, but I prefer to add railings without damaging the concrete. Might be better to dig holes in soil for posts
Yes that's one option. It's really a matter of preference... thanks for the feedback.. 🙂
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I WOULD NOT TELL ANYBODY TO USE THIS IT'S NOT STRONG AT ALL MAY LOOK GOOD BUT SAFE WAS NOT EVEN THOUGHT OF DON'T TRUST MINE WHAT SO EVER. I got a house with this already on it so I do know about it just saying. But it's your choice.
HI, i'm not sure whats going on with your railing. These rails are stronger than they look. At least these were. In many cases on a deck there are 4x4 posts that the vinyl sleeve slides over and the brackets for the rails are screwed into the wood on the 4x4 posts giving lots of holding strength. I can understand your frustration because of your railing, but it could be they didn't install them correctly and that's why they seem kinda weak?
@@TheHomeImprovementChannel Yes you right wasn't thinking sorry just when I saw this you know. I remembered who and how tight he was did I say TIGHT. Sorry
@@endall6783 Not a problem at all... I didn't take any offense whatsoever.. Just thought I would make the suggestion that maybe yours need to be looked at to see why they might be loose... 😀
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