Monoprice Encore for your home theater?
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- čas přidán 6. 05. 2022
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Really interesting take on using the center standing on it's side. Good EQ-ability and sealed means it can go pretty much anywhere to be within the 30-40 degree window for excellent horizontal off axis response. I love this channel for getting creative like this!
I'm glad I went with 3 centers for my fronts in the vertical position
Really enjoyed seeing the DSP results that you incorporated.
Yup.. have them ALL around my space now. 7 channel .. Incredible. Few tweaks to make them work for a small space and on-axis ... I love them.
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Definitely a good value for an affordable speaker. Many low end surround receivers have DSP that could make the necessary EQ corrections. Thank you for your detailed listening notes and testing results.
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@@ErinsAudioCornerHi Erin. I have a pair of B&W 805 in my music listening room and a couple pairs of 12" PA speakers from my gigging days. I am having a terrible time deciding on a pair of speakers for my digital piano/microphone setup in my living room. Being in the living room means they, don't only need to sound good, but also not look ridiculous. The T6 wouldn't look too bad on each side of the piano which is 31" high. Two horizontal speakers or studio monitors on top of the piano may also work and look OK. A third option would be two 8" high-quality PA speakers (QSC K8.2?), two studio active monitors or two 6" bookshelf speakers under the piano, angle up at 45 degrees. You seem very knowledgeable so I thought I'd ask for your input on this. I would also play pre-recorded music on whichever speakers I get for the piano/microphone. Thank you!
Thanks Erin!! Excellent Final thoughts Sir.. imho cost to performance ratio is such a very important metric.. for us middle-income folk!!
Leaving some love from here too. Cheers !!
I have the T6's in a two-channel music only setup. They are shockingly close to being a true full-range speaker. I have no need for a subwoofer in a 12x12 room - and I listen to a lot of bass-heavy music. It's hard to imagine a better two-channel system if you're a basshead.
I really like the post EQ spins and esp post EQ in room est. Very very helpful data since IMO anyone who cares enough about this kind of data should be able to figure out some EQ.
Yes Erin keep this coming especially for speakers more geared toward home theater
Good assessment as always. I seemed to be more impressed with them than you were, but at the price for the B6 Bookshelf that you showed, it comes out to $318 a pair. There's not a ton out there that can compare at that price point, even with no EQ. To me, it comes down to bass. My thinking was that someone starting off with a 2-channel system could get away with not using a sub (with realistic expectations) with the bookshelf speakers due to their extended bass. I can't say that for many speakers at this price. Even though your measurements show an F3 of 68hz, the F10 is 34hz for the bookshelf, and 53hz F3 and 30hz F10 for the floorstanders. In-room with boundary gain, that leads to some usable bass. That's a higher F3, but lower F10 than the Meta or McIntosh speakers. Lower than the THX bookshelves. For someone in an apartment, I think they would have a good time with that system.
The entire encore series is on sale for like 50% off. I litterly got the entire 5.0 set.. for 618.00 shipped new from monoprice.
Love your channel. Great stuff. Do you find that the testing results from a speaker set is generally predictive of performance across the entire lineup? For instance, you tested the Monolith C6 center channel in this video. Would the C5 center channel (5.25" woofer) likely perform similarly as the C6, just with less low frequency response?
pretty much only beaten by active monitor. impressive for the price.
i got to say im impressed that GP measurement was high resolution in the below 1KHz region usually you can't even get close to Anechoic without lifting the speaker 4 meters in the air
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the B1 plus is cheaper and measures way better than these even with no EQ though
Fantastic video, very thorough and enjoyable! Picked L/R/C of the T5/C5 series @ Target for $86/ea. How would you think the T6 compares against the Klipsch R620F model?
Could you please review the Monoprice M-OW1 THX Certified On-Wall Speaker
Erin, I know you're busy, but I'm hoping you can answer some questions about these speakers. I have a 7.1 home theater surround system. The AVR is an Onkyo TX-RZ620. It does offer the AccuEQ, but I don't have a separate equalizer. If it helps the room is approximately 16" x 16".
1. These speakers are large and so I need to mount them up high on a wall (I can angle them down or perhaps provide 2" of space). Using the bookshelf speakers for the surround and back channels, would it be better to mount them upside down since the vertical null looked like it was only at the bottom? Seems like that would also put the tweeter closer to the ear.
2. My left rear speaker can be mounted on a wall about 3' wide, but the right rear speaker at the same distance has no wall. My choice is to mount it from the ceiling in free space at that same distance or push it back 4' to another wall about 3' wide. Given those options, is it better to push it back or mount it as the only speaker in free space?
3. In the scenario where you buy say, 3 center channels for the front, if I understood it correctly, you would stand the left and right speakers on their ends and lay the center channel down like normal, correct?
Thank you.
Very nice. But as you say the center seem like the best buy. Would make for a very nice system at a good price going with the center all around.
Yes I agree
I know it's budget driven product, but the sudden increase in output past the crossover point (2.5-6kHz) is a bit of a mystery to me. I know the crossover network will be as simple as it can be, but maybe with 2 - 3 extra components things could be improved. Still, at this price very decent performance.
I just subbed. Im looking at getting these.
Well I might just buy 7 of the C6's and stand them up vertically for my next setup! Pretty interesting and I'm sure the Dirac or even the XT32 in modern receivers can smooth out what you have shown here. They're like $115 each as of now!!!! Flat response (after EQ) and nice dynamics and overall performance with an $800 bed layer???? That's insane!
Nice.
Did you do this or change your mind? I’m thinking the same thing except it seems like you can leave the C6 horizontal for center channel duties since the horizontal dispersion isn’t bad.
I wanna see how the PS Audio FR30 measures
Monoprice B5 for desktop?
Another center channel that's actually a great vertical LCR for behind a AT screen
I was surprised the directivity looked as good as it did given the MTM design.
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Thanks Erin, as always for the review backed by science. Can you please tell us what was the horizontal dispersion for the Encore Center Channel? I cannot find the horizontal plot for the center channel. Or, maybe, I am very inconsistent in my search, and if that is the reason, please forgive me :)
Here you go:
www.erinsaudiocorner.com/loudspeakers/monoprice_encore_c6/
@@ErinsAudioCorner thank you very much. No surprises here unfortunately 😂 20 degrees at best of consistency.
I think 3 Monolith T6 towers behind an acoustically transparent screen is a great value as well. The screen will cost more than the towers.
they are not THX
@@pulDag thx is an audio codec it has nothing to do with the speakers smh. When you find TV audio codec built-in to speakers you let me know lol won't happen
Hi Erin. Would it be silly thinking to buy two centers and use as mains? 🤷🏻♂️ I’ve had this thought before with other speakers! 😃
Nope. Just use a subwoofer because these don’t go as low as the bookshelf or towers.
@@ErinsAudioCorner It seems that the clarity would be better? And thank you for answering! Love your channel!
Is it a good idea to wall mount two C6 center speakers and use them as stereo for my TV?
That would work, yes.
Hey Erin so for home theather do you think going with vertical C6 all around is better than emotiva bookshelves? Whether that be the B1+ or B2+? Thanks for your insight and love the reviews!
It could work, but two things:
I believe the center channel is sealed so you will likely need to cross over your subwoofer a little bit higher. Make sure you pay attention to the placement of the tweeter, and that it is at or near ear level. If you go too far above or below this reference plane, then the sound will be degraded.
@@ErinsAudioCorner appreciate the reply and the suggestions to keep in mind, thank you and I’m really hoping you get your hands on the new emotiva lineup coming out very soon!
Hi @ErinsAudioCorner,
Thanks for your videos although its little high level for me. :=)
My setup
2 Monolith T6 towers, I had a monoprice Monolith C5 center but I switched to Klipsch 450C center based on reviews and suggestions.
Subs = dual setup. I have a sub from 10565 monoprice 5.1 set thats on right side between 2 tower speakers. I am using monoprice 9723 12" sub 150W one that sits on left in between the 2 Monolith T6 towers.
Question : should I go with Monolith C6 center to balance and make this work with the matching Monolith T6 towers? I never understood the timbre stuff people say. I do feel though based on my monoprice 10565 5.1 setup that matching LCR made a different good sound vs changign the center from different brand. Having said that, Klipsch 450C sounds good but sometimes its bright. I like little bassy smooth warm sound.
So question is : I am I better off with Klipsch 450C or should I purchase SVS prime or Monolith Encore C6 instead? Thoughts?
Finally, I use Sony DH 540 receiver without using the odyssey or whatever its called i.e. without any auto calibrations. I also have Sony DN1080 receiver that I need to setup with atmos speakers.
I would skip the 450c, these designs have a lot of issues (check Erins review on the 504c II). Vertically many of these MTM centers can work well, if you are into gaming then timbre matching is more important but room correction can solve some of this. I would personally go with the C6 if you can flip it vertically - maybe even possible to use a B6 if you have the space. If not then it's just best to avoid MTM (mid tweeter mid) designs and try to get a 3 way instead WMTW (woofer mid tweeter woofer).
The 3 way will not always perform better but much if the time it will (The Novus N5C for example only performs a bit better when compared to the C6 horizontally).
If you can't use the center vertically then look into (ordered by preference):
Monolith 365C (erin review - one of the best centers I have personally ever heard for off axis listening)
Infinity RC263 (audio science review)
SVS Prime Center (erin review)
Emotiva 3 C1 (erin review)
Aperion Novus N5C (erin review)
Monoprice also has some in wall 3 ways centers but I haven't seen any measurements on them.
If you want to check the used market there are a few older designs that could work well:
Wharfedale 9/10 CM (I personally have a 9 CM and it does have solid dispersion, it can match the Encore T6's fairly well after room correction)
JBL Studio (several 3 way models)
Revel Concerta C12
Paradigm Center 1/3
JBL LC1
NHT Twoc
Jamo D 500 LCD
Many others...
@@tbob2224 Thanks for detailed response. I got the Monolith Encore C6 Center now so I will play with it little bit. Also, I will go ahead and order SVS Prime Center and see how that works compared to Encore C6 and Klipsch 450C. I will add one thing though, I usually watch movies alone or with my wife so I am not so concerned about sound dispersion and axis stuff as long as the sound is good near my LP Listening position and little bit around the room if I lie down or watch it from another area other than couch. The vocals/dialogs sound very good on 450C, its almost like the actor is in room talking to me lol. But I want to try out different speakers so I can make up my mind.
Lesson learned = Skip budget center speakers from start unless you don't have the money at all and save that extra 50-100$ so you can do the 3 way expensive center speaker. The center channel should be given priority over the other speakers.
@@ajashadi1There is a lot of personal preference to all of this - just sharing my experience.
I had a pair of RP600M II's and I just could not handle the sharpness of them (decided to try Klipsch again after many years), it's not to say they sounded bad they would just give me a headache after 15-20 minutes at higher volumes even after room correction. The next person loves that sound.
I think the 365C would probably match the T6's the best, you can also order from Target and return in store for free.
I have heard the Prime as well I found it to be slightly thin, but I don't know how well they had their RC set up.
Even 20 years ago I auditioned several speakers including B&W, Klipsch, Monitor Audio and others and ultimately ended up with a pair of Wharfedale Diamonds even though they were not the most detailed I could listen to them for extended lengths at high volumes with zero fatigue.
I have heard many speakers with metal dome tweeters and several of them have given me fatigue as well, it's generally more rare for speakers with soft dome tweeters to give that much fatigue especially after room correction/tone controls.
Yes, the center is the most important speaker in an HT system, then L/R, surrounds, and heights. I really do enjoy the Encore T6 and T5's at the sale prices ($119/$90 respectively). I had a pair of B6's as well but the T5's are just better at the same price in a stereo system.
Do you have any plans on reviewing the JBL A180's?
Not currently.
Why are these 4 ohms?????
Encore B6 vs Emotiva B1+?
Hmmmm.... I really don't know without looking back over my notes and data and comparing side by side. On looks, the Monoprice for sure. I think the Emotiva may get the nod for sound, though.
A new crossover needed
One of the best sound stage vertically vertically 3-D was the apirion audio Verus grand 3 tower. Actually imagine better than a pair of $30000 is there a pair Legacy focus XD. Way more transparent way more vertically Literally a better sounding tower at a 10th of the price So if you can try to get hold of those guys so you can get get a review in on those they have the bigger brother version of those now. Plus they are absolutely beautiful like literally I think it was 10 Coats of lacquer
I know all the rest of the guys that you do Podcast with and a bunch of guys you don't know that are in the industry that have been there forever you you I have the utmost respect for spectacular because not only do you have a good ear and be subjective about things But you have the data to back it up. All I'm gonna say is somebody very high up in the industry saw your review on AVS For the Atlantic technology and how it was completely different than then the guy that runs the site now. He also saw your video he called me directly after And said did you see him just blow that up lol He just totally crushed that review and totally crushed what was reviewed on AVS lol good job buddy love to do a Podcast with you sometime
Looks like these are going out of production, Monoprice has the C6 as part of it's clearance sale.
I prefer ELAC UB5’s sound compared to these. Found Elac for 200$ on Craigslist so it was a no brainer for me.
Lol. Good one.
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I think it needs a brace between the two drivers on the baffle one inch stock pine 4" long no more. attach with builders adhesive not wood glue make sure it cures probably 72 hours
whats the port impedance distortion didn't see any chart
having the tweeter to one side on a mtm is a better approach less cancellation better soundstage
apply a bead of Blu-Tack 4 mm around the waveguide on the inside as a gasket dampener! probably get rid of your nasty hump and give a better sound to to the tweeters
make sure the screws are tight on the woofers
raising the woofer slightly forward might help with that nasty cliff you got, use some thick stiff card probably 6-mm thick you can use those pizza disc card glue two together. should help with the hump as well in the hire frequencies
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I wish I watched your video before buying the T6. It was too boomy and muddy for me, like you identified, so I returned it. (return shipping is expensive!)
Really? The T6 is far from being a boomy speaker. Curious what you were driving them with.
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