Are There Alien Artifacts in Our Solar System? with Dr. James Benford
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- Von Neumann probes, self-replicating spacecraft, or Alien lurkers and alien artifacts all represent the idea that somewhere in our solar system there could be evidence of an alien civilization and that they may have been silently watching us from space for millions of years or longer.
Jonh Michael Godier spoke to Dr. James Benford about his paper 'Looking for Lurkers: Co-orbiters as SETI Observables', as well as other solutions to the fermi paradox that involves finding alien artifacts in our own solar system.
Looking for Lurkers: Co-orbiters as SETI Observables by Dr. James Benford: arxiv.org/pdf/1903.09582.pdf
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What do you think of the lurker hypothesis? Are there Alien artifacts in our Solar System?
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Releasing these as a podcast is such a no-brainer. Can you please help us audio-dominant people out? It's not like your shows depend on visuals. This goes for your personal CZcams too.
@@matthewrogers55 It is in the works, some things have delayed it but it is a top priority.
@@EventHorizonShow have you thought about reading your sci-fi book for release on audible?
@@EventHorizonShow Cool I can't wait for that. Its weird that I was just thinking about asking you if you ever considered doing a Q&A kind of thing with your subscribers? I would love to be able to ask you a few questions directly.
I would focus instead on devices hidden in trans-neptunian objects. Directed burst or masar transmissions from a module designed to incinerate itself. One drone seeder in the oort cloud come make automated periodic probes seem very natural and easy to dispose of or hide.
Getting PHD physicists to contemplate these profound concepts has to be the most interesting thing on YT. There are a lot of channels that get into the theoretical weeds but they're generally confined within the parameters of "proper" academic questions. It is so f'ing cool to hear these brilliant scientists talk about the Fermi paradox in a scientifically rigorous manner. I look forward to these videos every week.
Those guys think about that stuff a lot - they just in general don't do papers on hypothesis that they can't think of a way prove or disprove.
emf 1200 Guys they are playing both sides against each other to create duality... trump doesn’t know what’s happening. He’s not the enemy you think, please listen. It has been public knowledge since 2015, that the Coronavirus was man made. The 2016 elections blinded everyone perfectly. This seems like a straightforward case of corruption but it is MUCH more than that. You see it is also now public knowledge that conciousness is a singularity. That means the universe only has 1 mind. That means that every single person, life form and even the planets themselves are “you”. We have all been the same person throughout our history. There is no death, we live infinitely as each other’s lives.... The “aliens”👽know this and “humanity”(majority) does not. What we call “humanoid” is actually a geometric structure that ALL life eventually becomes. The “problem” with us is EGO. Every person we don’t like is a version of ourselves that has given in to their ego. This has resulted in a covert human cult that wants to be satan(yes they take it very seriously). This egotistical cult has been able too infiltrate the highest forms of government (trump isn’t in the club). They want a space war.
The process of learning this information is when a species evolves from the 3rd dimensional mind to the 4th and 5th... Jesus, buddah, and other religious icons were among the first to figure this out. We can beat this cult though. Since we are all the same person we can tune our conciousness to affect all our other selves. We need 80 million(1%) of the planet to wake up to in order to match the 1% at the top. Once this situation is resolved ALL war will end. Earth will become a type 1 civilisation and the aliens 👽 👍 will be free to be public. By then however they won’t be seen as alien, they will simply be “us”. Also there is no privacy. Your thoughts are actually a broadcast. They know every thought you have ever had and know everything happening on this planet in REAL time. USA, Russia and China are all best friends. ALL media is an illusion.
Your entire statement which swells with man made words of science, created by people in colleges who decided they know best and everyone should accept and believe what they decided for us. . .But I remember, what PhD archaeologists did to a simple honest man, so I tell you. . .Trust No PhD, most are fruits of a very poison tree, that is the educational system we know of today. . .God will do what God will do, and none has anything to do with what you said. . .I'm sorry.
@S C What evidence have you seen for exoplanets? Transits are not evidence. They are only theory until someone sees the actual planet.
S C We do have data. Us. We know that intelligent life arose at least once because we’re here. We can make certain assumptions based on that alone. What are the chances that life arose just once in a universe where finding earth-like exoplanets has become relatively routine? Probably zero. When looking at the Hubble Deep Field image, the thought of being alone becomes incomprehensible.
I hope they find something before I die. My biggest wish is to see proof for the presence of non-earth based intelligent life.
Myself and my brother saw a UFO hover above our house when we were about 14 years old. Don't know who was inside, could be aliens or humans from the future or could be a drone, maybe a glimpse into the future of a family vehicle. But it was a two layer saucer with lights going around it, like lights on a fairground ride. It hovered above for what seemed like about 10 minutes totally silent and no one else saw it during the day above are house in the city. Was the strangest thing one would see or believe but I think we saw something very advanced not from this planet.
Lol you do know that the government officially disclosed UFO, right?
Darius Kang this explains why they’re waiting for first contact! Waiting for us to get more obese or maybe improve our diets so that we’re healthier ingredients!
Darius Kang
I’d like to be hot & spicy.
@@venataciamoon2789 I got a photo of some type of craft in the sky, there was actually 3 in a triangle formation and they looked orange in the distance. The spacing was perfect between them, but it was not one craft. Took a picture and it wasn't orange at all, it had some orange but also green and yellow and red, all swirling kinda like a magic orb of sorts.
Well about 2 years prior I was with friends and we seen what we called a beach ball because it was all rainbow shoot down from the sky like straight down, didn't turn or anything, down. This was about 250 metres from us behind a few properties, and mind you I live in the middle of a city, it was a large ball of what seemed to be swirling light of all the same colours from the picture.
So we had seen whatever this thing was, shooting down at a million miles an hour, came out of absolutely nowhere and dropped it speed almost to a complete stop as it came down, it looked like fuckin magic and 2 years odd after this happened I photographed one, the footage of them in the sky is even on CZcams but they didn't move much, hence why I could snap a shot (2012 new year's eve UFOs Melbourne)
People say I'm crazy so I don't speak about it.
"There are two possibilities, either we are alone or we're not. Both are equally terrifying" - Arthur C Clarke.
That's been said ...you suck
@@midwest1389 So does your mum.
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I can spell why
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The Earth is so old, it could have produced intelligent life several times over. Maybe there are relicts of former civilisations from planet Earth out there.
And nothing would be left here with erosion and stuff. There might've been intelligent Dinosaurs that left the planet hundreds of millions of years ago and all their leftover artifacts are long gone.
HappyBeezerStudios - by Lord_Mogul
Either that, or it didn’t happen.
@@HappyBeezerStudios What about fossils???
Absolutely. The myth of Atlantis isn't just a myth.
The fact that every ancient religion speaks about a great flood that wiped out (most of) mankind can't be a coincidence.
The fact that the oldest known civilizations speak of other "sages" who gave them knowledge can't be a coincidence either.
Couple that with the anomalies regarding ancient megalithical constructions and the conclusions became quite apparent.
You are assuming it has ever produced intelligent life - at least based on the occupants of Washington.
It never ceases to amaze me how even the most intelligent scientists continually talk about possibilities in terms of technology we as humans have discovered as of today. For example we talk about how long it would take for aliens to get here in terms of many years and the limits this imposes. It’s like us now talking about how long it would take the Romans to get to the moon.
Forget the catalogue of tech we have today, it’s irrelevant. We could be talking about a race of beings that have been developing technology for 100’s of thousands of years. Maybe even concepts in Physics that we are intellectually too limited to even understand.
Good point.
See John lenard walson on CZcams. His telescope footage is unbelievable.
I've been saying that and shaking my head at these guys for 20+ years. I believe an imagination and thinking outside the box is what seperates these 'intelligent' people from others like Hawking and Einstein.
Well the reason why they talk in terms of technology we have today, lol is because they are freaking scientists and not hacks, right? they aint fantasy writers, so there is no point in what they "think" might be a technology of the future, when NOBODY knows, so they would just be speculatihng. Thats the job of science fiction writers, NOT scientists, so stop being so AMAZED, its not that amazing, and just normal.
Scientists (and Engineers such as myself) do talk in terms of technology that we currently have because that's the only reliable technology that we know of, essentially it works very well.
There is no point in speculating about technology that extra-terrestrials may have, who may be hundreds of thousands of years more advanced than us because we may not be able to even detect their presence in our Solar System; thus such advanced beings may be beyond our ability to make First Contact with.
The best we can do, is try to extrapolate from our known technology and imagine what more advanced beings may be able to do. As soon as we do that, we enter the realm of Science Fiction. For examples of science fiction written by scientists, I would recommend books by Isaac Asimov (I Robot, Foundation series) and Carl Sagan (Contact).
In some occasions, science fiction does inspire Scientists and Engineers to develop advanced technologies; for example the inventor of the cellular telephone credits Star Treks' personal communicator for inspiration (although the overall concept of the cellular telephone network was patented during the 1940's to the 1950's sometime, one may argue that the original Star Trek producer may have learned of the patent or the idea behind the patent, inspiring the communicator), there are Engineering research groups trying to build portable remote sensors inspired by Star Trek's tricorder idea, there are also Biomedical Engineering research groups inspired by Star Treks' medical tricorder trying to build portable medical diagnostic equipment, even Warp Drive has been discovered to be theoretically possible by Dr. Miguel Alcubierre, a Mexican theoretical physicist who used Einstein's General Relativity equations to find a solution for the 1D (one dimensional case).
Dr Alcubierre's work has been taken further by other theoretical physicists, in an attempt to discover a theoretical/mathematical solution that eliminates the need for exotic matter (i.e. particles with negative mass), which plagues Dr Alcubierre's theoretical model. Once a practical theoretical model is developed, future Engineers may find new techniques to build a working interstellar warp drive. For a comparison, Quantum Mechanics' theory was more or less finalized approximately 66 years after James Clerk Maxwell published his classical theory of electromagnetism in 1861, by around 1926 to 1928, and the first transistor was developed approximately 20 years later in 1947, and the first microprocessor approximately 44 years later (since QM was developed) in 1971.
Were you expecting me *NOT* to click on a title like that?
Second best possible title, right after 'There are alien artifacts in Solar system'
@@u.v.s.5583 Andromeda artifacts in our Milkey Way
@@u.v.s.5583 Sound like "there are external actors in my brain"... what do you know about resonnance and projection ?
Ikr. I just wanted to see polar bears this afternoon
“If anyone else is out there, we are their alien civilization“. Very well expressed, JMG.
That’s crazy thinking another civilization seen earths biosphere when dinosaurs walked the earth; then the probe gets here and they get bad memes and tictok LOL
idk man, prehistoric mammoth-bone boogaloo is better than this electric boogaloo we have now
They might introduce us some to some of their intergalactic riddims of their own tho.
And faster download times....
Harry turtledove wrote a series of novels based on that premise . Basicly their probe finds man when we are neandrathals . Send a invasion fleet and arrive during the middle of ww2. Their technology level is about late 1980s
When I was 11 years old at our family home in Winnipeg, Manitoba in the early afternoon of 1950 something occurred that I will never forget. This insident happend after a Sunday dinner (dinner time was at noon in those days) myself, an older sister 16 at the time, and my uncle a 2nd world war veteran medic who had seen action all over Europe, stepped out unto our large front porch and stood at the top of the wide set of steps. It was a beautiful mid summer day. My uncle directed our gaze up at the cloudless cobalt blue sky and expressed amazement at the perfection of the expanse. At that incredible moment something happened that has forever seared into my memory. A flying disk slowly traversed the sky without the slightest sound so low I felt I could reach up and touch it. It was absolutely immense. I can still see the outline of gleaming coffer-like demarcations underneath the shining craft. My uncle audibly gasped and hoarsely uttered, "A circular aeroplane?" Then expressed his amazement with an expletive I had never heard an adult utter. He obviously had not heard the term flying saucers. But my sister had. "That's not an aeroplane, uncle Oliver, that's a flying saucer." she exclaimed. "I'm going in to call CJOB," she shouted and ran into the house. She, however, never got through to the popular radio station as we were to learn later that hundreds had tried to call that day. The obvious advanced technology that was employed to keep that impossibly huge craft seemingly effortlessly move over the city was literally out of this world and would be so even today. This occurred during the summer holidays of July 1950. Over the years I have always believed, without a shadow of doubt, that alien beings have been present on earth for possibly millennia. It is with frustration, born out of a certain interior awareness, a knowledge so intellectually interwoven in my being that we have been continually observed by this alien presents. I say frustration because it is what I have always felt hearing and reading speculations of possibilities of alien life elsewhere in the universe. I am now in my 80s and feel thankful that I have been one of the lucky ones to have known the truth.
Thank you George for sharing your experience!
@@angelalewis6171 Your more than welcome. I have shared this UFO occurrence over the years many times as had my sister, now deceased, as well. I have had two other UFO sightings of a different nature but just as jarring. Be happy to share them if you'd like. George
@@georgeleger4095 yes I would like to know more about your experiences.
George Leger ...George I saw a saucer come right overhead at 1,000 feet one evening in the 70’s outside my house in the UK , was about 50 feet across and looked like brushed aluminium. Only saw it for 4 secs between the low broken cloud but it changed me forever. See ‘To the Stars Academy’ we all maybe getting some answers soon.
Thanks for sharing! And please, tell us your other stories
Well done, JMG. You have once again helped me through a difficult day. Please keep writing and producing; you make the world a better place.
Thanks and will do!
Keep your head up
Have none of you seen John lenard walson's high zoom telescope footage of the moon? The surface is littered with huge structures and movement/lights. He has a CZcams site, go see for yourself cos these characters wont tell you anything.
CZcamsrs make the world go round, or at least our personal worlds.
@@pauloneill9880
No, that is just a con-man fooling you through optical illusion and digital artifacting.
i work construction alone....these podcasts are amazing, i love every single one and they totally make my day so much better
thanks john for your amazing and interesting content about cool sci fi philosophy being speculated scientifically in this random, misguided and ridiculous internet in which we Liiiiiiiiiiiiive
Thank you from the event horizon crew for your great message. This is why we make the show and really appreciate knowing it makes your day better. Also. Mc boom sauce is a great name.
That has to be the absolute best intro I've seen in such a very long time well done to all that was involved well done
Been waiting all day for this! You've become a signal that Friday is almost here. Love it!
Meat Fractals 100% agree
Your timing for breaks for Ads is legendary
Try using AdBlock - it's free, and it's working for me
The “just as likely” argument at the start of the vid is actually correct 😂😂😂
A lot of the time high intelligence is accompanied by eccentricities or outright mental illness but the Guest in this video is awesome!! What a high degree of intelligence and sober reasoning!! In these days of madness it's good to know there are people like that out there!!
One of the most enjoyable episodes that I've heard ! Very interesting indeed ! And when he answered that they were likely to be there , I wasn't expecting that !
Love the videos too John. I look forward to these videos every week. Love hearing about the Fermi paradox with these awesome guest you have. You Eryn and Ross are doing an excellent job! Keep up the good work.
Thank you for producing such high quality content on this subject matter. Very logical Q&A , very believable and plausible scenarios discussed. Enjoyed it greatly .
43:39 The music during this part was perfect! I got choked up.
Straight in there weh hey.... The opening music and the hosts introduction are so classically put together well done guys just A1 content .... Thank you .x
Thank you Alvin!
@@EventHorizonShow You deserve much higher praise ...I really enjoy the topics on your shows and JMGs shows . You do very very well and bring a welcome treat to my week. You cant beat and episode just before you turn in for the night very relaxing to watch and listen to which really helps me personally so its heart felt....
And Eryn is adding a wonderful amount of whimsy to the whole thing.
@@evanroberts2771 we learn in many different ways. Me. I'd prefer to die laughing.
Fantastic interview! I’m really impressed by the breadth and depth of knowledge that informs your questions. Well done!
Thank you Daniel. Subscribed? Follow up interview soon with Dr. Benford.
This is how a proper interview is done
Came for a few mins and couldn't even ffwd. Had to go all the way
Our thanks Corky.
Event Horizon
Much obliged
Is space force just for additional defense contracts?
Or does it have a proper function?
@@corkyvanderhaven3391 "Is space force just for additional defense contracts?" That's is the only way to pay for a space force. Without any "defense motivation" we would never had any rockets today.
Fascinating stuff. I've enjoyed this interview immensely.
Maybe they’re interdimensional. They could be all around us and we’d never know.
THAT'S what I believe.... they aren't even "physical." Or, like I said in another comment, everyone star's are micronovaing, and sterilizing planets. Lol. Or, at least the "life" like us.
Djins
RASOLDIOS “Beings we don’t understand? Prepare for war!” It seems to me far more likely beings that intelligent would have long since evolved past basic human violence.
When it comes to the UFO phenomenon, I'd sooner believe they were interdimensional rather than alien in nature, but you never know.
Thats why UFO's materialize in and out of thin air & violate the laws of physics
I love these event horizon videos! Anything alien related and I’m hooked and JMG does a great job of breaking it all down.
We are humans with amnesia please give us our memories back .
NO!
We souls demand memory returned
Immaul Velokoski Ages in Chaos
What have we forgotten? Oops, that's a bit cart-before-horse!
Such a fascinating interview. It's amazing what humans can do with rational thought and the scientific method. The Stellardrone music is perfect too. Many thanks.
Great episode! Also just wanted to praise the music you use in these videos. The intros always suck me right in! Just a great little cherry on top of the interesting topics and guests you continually reproduce.
Thank you Mike!
You’re fantastic! One of the best interviewers on CZcams. Topics are so interesting and your style and voice and great. I love your content JMG!
I only found your channel there recently and l have to say l am very impressed. 👍 Keep up the good work.😊
Fascinating conversation, thanks to you both!
Thank you for watching!
Amazing and thought provoking as usual. You seem to always touch on a point that hasn’t gotten a lot of popularity but absolutely should
43:13 "Here is the entire natural history of your planet." While obviously info about themselves would be nice, if this is all it had then that would (to me) be a gift beyond priceless.
I really love your deep dives into these topics.
You know, I almost exclusively listen, and not watch, to these interviews and podcast, but I'm really appreciating the animations in this one.
I believe 100% I would bet my life on it that there is alien life out there, all the hundreds of billions of galaxies just that we can see.
@@LeenaStark i am 38 and i do enjoy Blue Oyster Cult .. and i belief your story 100% ive seen something similar too
Hennessy 1979 - This assumes that abiogenesis happens, which is something assumed. If abiogenesis is impossible then only intelligence can formulate life from non-life and thus it would only be where intelligence places it.
It’s too easy
My wife and I travel to a remote spot, where city lights have low effect on the night sky and gaze, often. We Always drive home with a “OMG that wasn’t a satalite”! Stories. We see tons of them of course, but we also always see something slowing down and speeding up and making turns.
Ancient Alien hypothesis is very valid. And Concurrent. We Are constantly being watched. They've been called The Watchers since The Essenes wrote some of the Dead Sea Scrolls. It's common knowledge if people would read more theyd find there's much much
About Aliens bc our Planet IS Immersed in it. A science experiment in Progress. Millions of years they been messing with our people and some animals All Globally. Been so for Eons.
New episode to fall asleep to and listen to the rest tomorrow :-)
Tnx for adding only 3 ads in your vid!
Good stuff as always
Enjoyed this. Dr. Benford presents as open minded for a "mainstream" scientist / researcher. More please.
a way bigger mystery to me than other forms of life in the universe is this channel only having a little over 100k subscribers.
no mystery there, most people are sadly absolutely uninterested in space and astronomy, let alone in theories about alien life.. "weak minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, strong minds discuss ideas"
@@tibchy144 great point !!!!!!
everybody's gotta start somewhere.. also, this channel leans more towards the scientific and skeptical, so its still not mainstream masses of yokels and idiots.
@@evanroberts2771 Yeah... Petrov's ... guy who simulated two gas giants crash without tidal effects ;D He has improved, but ... anyway: SETI institute has interesting lectures on kind of related topics.
Great interview I really enjoyed it. Very interesting topic and one not many channels discuss. Thanks!
This is definitely in my top five favorite channels on the CZcams's! Teach me master for I know not what to know!
you want to know more,?. where you came from.?. who put you here.?. watch viper tv,sumerian tablets. we are products of alien dna. to be there slaves,till they left,before the flood.'' made in there image.'' as it says..religion & your education are lies..
lovely conversation! Thank you for this...
I'm totally addicted now! Great episode again!
The amount of work to make a hour long video like this is huge! You could use just one picture, or slideshow of pictures but nooo, you use video clips.
😳 Just for that reason all your interviews deserves a thumbs up 👍👍
Lol
Still a great listen after all this time, would be nice to have this guest again for another chat.
Astonishing and revelatory conversation with so much to ponder! Images and graphics are superb!
Geezz.. Why didn't I find this channel earlier.. Great stuff!
Better late than never.
I've watched this 5 times.
Great work
Why isn't there an International (United Nations) Panel that meets regularly to discuss what Global Human response should be to contact or communications with/from ET?
There is!
@@pieterallenmasterblue1402 Are those discussions or the results of those dialogues documented? I'd like to read more about what is planned, if possible.
Oumuamua was the most important signal until now
You don't wanna know, believe me
I'm old enough to remember the bit of a 'thing' that was made over the plaques that
were shot off as part of the 'Pioneer' probes, and later the discs that were pert of
the 'Voyager' probes. They piqued my imagination, and made me try to figure out
how to make something more 'findable' since everybody seemed to agree that the
odds of any of them being found were *at least* 100s of billions to one against it
happening, and I didn't like those odds - *at all!*
Since then, I've realized that what I was doing was attempting to make a highly observ-
able form of a 'buoy'. I ended up with a sphere that had 20 'corner-reflectors' built
into it, spaced over it's surface dodecahedronally. The entire surface (other than
the interiors of the corner-reflectors) would be 'reflectivized' in the same manner as
road-side signs are, except that the small glass beads (that are the 'key ingredient'
in making the surface reflective from virtually any angle) would have a slightly broader
spread of diameters than would be typical; the idea being to achieve the same refl-
ective properties over a slightly larger portion of the E-M spectrum. The entire surface
would be finished with an amorphous-diamond coating to preserve the surface in it's
original condition as long as possible. The size of the sphere would be primarily deter-
mined by the size of the reflective corners built into it; the larger the corners, the longer
the wavelength for which they would be suitable. I eventually realized that if the corner-
reflectors were multiple meters on a side you could end up with a sphere that was 10s
of meters in diameter - large enough to have enough interior room for a sort of 'museum'
with displays, for passive viewing and possibly even interactive viewing!
Ever since then, I've been expecting to see some S-F author use something similar in a story,
but ... *nothing!* I always figured I probably wasn't the *only* person out there who'd
worked out something like this - but maybe I was.
just finished the first episode for the night john!! looks like i’ll be up a little later than 11 tonight. at least tomorrow is friday!! here we gooo.
My new favorite channel on youtube!
This was great !
whew! this was a fun dense one and I had never heard of co-orbitals before so learned something new! thanks JMG! ... also glad that you didn't get corrected for bad Italian pronunciation.
Since it's undeniably known that the moon has played such an integral part in the evolution of intelligent life on Earth over the millenium, it seems that we need to be looking for Earth like planets or super-Earth planets that are actually axially stabilized in their orbits about their stars, by a large moon, such as Luna does for the Earth. It's also been said regarding the moon that it's physical structure and it's physical role in the Earth/Moon/Sun relationship is literally "a mega-series of flabbergastinly beneficial serendipitous coincidences" So If you really believe LUNA is a coincidence, you can't see the elephant in the room.
It has to happen somewhere ^^
The moon is a way station, its anomalies are many, how did the earth capture it , its huge.
The moon is a way station, its anomalies are many, how did the earth capture it , its huge.
His name is lunar ranger...bet he hates 🌞
@@OgpBosnia Ha nahhh - I just like it better when its reflected back from a Full Harvest Moon...
I think this is my favourite video John. Watching it for the 4th time. Would love a follow up
Thanks Steve. Did you catch this one?
Looking for Technosignatures on the Moon with Dr. James Benford
czcams.com/video/wxqwwWWKM5k/video.html
@@EventHorizonShow thanks John will take a look now 👍
love your interviews, do you have any plans to upload these as podcasts? downloading them from CZcams to listen to them in the car gets a bit tedious :D
Try Spotify, I listen to him on that.
this was an absolutely interesting episode, and i must admit before i found this channel i had been totaly convinced that aliens were flying around earth but listening to so many experts, whos job it is to watch the sky and listen, explain how unlikely that is has really put me at ease
I would be a skeptic or UFO if I hadn’t seen one with my own eyes, up close and personal. Scared the sh*t out of me. I will NEVER forget
Yep, same here with my own eye's too. Was the most amazing and humbling experience. The UFO was silent and invisible to others which made me think I'm either crazy or they are soo advanced by 1000s of years. People say why don't we see them but if they can be silent and invisible, then they are flying around us without us knowing, unless you are lucky or unlucky to see one somehow.
Y'all got any more of that stuff y'all smoking? I'd like to try some of that..... well,... maybe not.....
Venatacia Moon I seen on yrs ago that was flashing red all over when it wasn't flashing it was invisible when it was on you could see inside it I saw 4 beings sitting around a table in the middle there were another 2 beings standing at the back it was a bit bigger that an suv and I watched it fly past my window and I ran to the front room and watched it fly across the sea , I've seen a few others but never so clearly or so close to me. Peace out
@@michaelgreene7385 go outside on pleasant evenings and watch... :!) Even if it turns out to be a meteorite or satellite it's really fun to see and imagine. We're watching something that people threw into orbit with a fire. That is amazing as a UFO!
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And then there are UFOs
First, you should be a skeptic about your own infallibility. The brain plays many tricks.
8:45 “could we paint this thing with radar from Arecibo”. Oh happier days.
Very interesting video, you talk about things I never think about. It's like waking up, thanks.
The Wailing Asteroid by Murray Leinster, the Heechee Saga by Fred Pohl, Mutineer's Moon by David Weber, The Sentinel by AC Clarke, The Ophiuchi Hotline by John Varley all have alien artifacts hanging out in our Solar System.
Rogue Moon by Algis Budrys also stands out in my memory.
Xenoarcheology's actually a common trope in science fiction - some on Earth (Stargate, At the Mountains of Madness), some on alien worlds (Allastair Reynolds' Revelation Space series and [edit] Jack McDevitt's books), but it's not uncommon to have artifacts discovered somewhere in the solar system (Grant Callin's Saturnalia, Kim Stanley Robinson Icehenge, the movie Total Recall, and the game Mass Effect, for example).
As many times as I've read and loved Rogue Moon, I've yet to figure out what it's truly about. Are the aliens who created it as perverse, cruel, ruthless, and arbitrary as the human characters appear to be? Is it just a plot device to show the protagonist there are more important things in life?
I much prefer Scanners Live in Vain--The universe may be cruel and humans may be crappy, but there is hope.
If we send images of things we've done, I suggest we send a slideshow of the Falcon Heavy boosters landing in-sync. That's the coolest thing we've done in a while.
@Despiser Despised: Like dropping a pencil on the floor and having it land on its eraser. It looks so unnatural for a tall thin cylinder to land upright, and it is, which of course is why it took decades to figure out how to do it.
Absolutely love ❤️ this channel. Always an interesting conversation. 🤔🧠🤯
If there are Lurkers in the solar system that are waiting for something more interesting than humans, they are probably from a machine civilization and view us as a kind of primordial soup, from which true life might emerge.
True life, meaning scentient machines?
The secret purpose of life is to evolve to the point where the species creates a new life form in a collective effort . this pattern then repeats and gets more and nore complex over time. Life forms eaither fail and go extinct or succeed in creating a successor then fade out or merge/ interbreed.
@@virtualmoyda7221 So you're saying we're all bacteria and one day we'll decide to hug each other and create a big lifeform?
@@zualapips1638 he's saying we are going to create ai that's better or well merge. Simple its already happening.. you are on your phone all day hey? Very cyborb like fren
nvmffs why do they smell? Lol
After having experienced an ETV (ufo) i have a hard time taking this Paradox seriously. You dont have to look outside this planet for evidence of alien life!
Thanks for all you do John keep it up!
What makes your ufo a etv? You can't use bolth and sound creditable.
70% Americans believe in UFOs, I do think most people dont admit they saw one for fear of reprisal, unless its a mega sighting. Once on a flight to Tenerife from UK our pilot said he had logged a UFO just past us over 1000mph on speaker system on plane. My cousin worked on air traffic Belgian border Europe, they have a file unexplained all logged. Makes sence.
These are great discussions. Thanks
Kudos on the theme tune to this channel..love it.
I always thought L4 and L5 would be a good place to look for an alien artifact, even if all we find is an alien litterbug's beer can.
Could you just imagine finding a relic? How much that would change our entire planet?
Someone from the globals will steal it. You will never see it
@@georgiarobinson1204 they would hide it.
The military would not want it getting out, the potential for advanced tech would make it an all out race to acquire it as quickly as possible, while trying to maintain secrecy. Tech for comm's or weapons, or possibly being the sole ambassadors to aliens, might afford us advantages over other countries, no way the public would hear anything about et artifacts.
Face on Mars anyone?
They've found plenty,and will prob never disclose it! A cave in China they found metallic discs with microscopic markings on them,like a record or CD disc.the dropa discs,i think?
this was fascinating
I enjoyed that, Dr Benford is very grounded but at the same time has a very open mind. The way he eludes to Ufo's being of tech that is totaly unfathomable to us at present is not off the table with him but he makes no song and dance. Thanks EH.
I just can't get enough of this uploads! :]
The topics are always interestring
Speculatively, The monitoring and watching might be mandatory for all evolving civilazations from 'higher/advanced' ones as to not let them diverge from their determined paths
Great show.
7:30 Periodical close encounters between two habited worlds is such a well loved sci fi plot point. There was a short story in one of those annual best of sci-fi collections that was more realistic than I realized!
Gregory Benford’s ‘in the Ocean of Night’ series starts with a hostile machine watcher damaged by an alien vessel that then crashed on the Moon.
This was quite interesting, and Dr. Benford seems quite open minded for a mainstream scientist. Of course he was very cautious on certain topics, UFOs specifically, even after the government openly admitted to their existence (be they alien or otherwise) only a few days ago, but truth be told, he really exceed my expectations considering the usual attitude of the academic researcher.
I found the idea of Pulsar' artificiality the most intriguing and something that would greatly benefit from a serious investigation.
And the us navy ufo aatip program also did research on worm holes and black holes so they must be pretty convinced they are not from this world.
2 million HD moon images? I have LOTS of time, where I can look them up?
ive seen that many tinder profiles
You might find this interesting. I found it while searching Google earth.
vm.tiktok.com/KkJp8X/
Washerwoman
NASA jpl photojournal has countless images from all their missions;
photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov
Basically, there are a multitude of different space agencies, private and state-run, all of these have a varying amount of images available and if you spend some time you'll find other galleries outside of NASA's jpl photojournal, here is for example JAXA's data archive (Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency); jda.jaxa.jp/en/
38 mins in talking about repeating radio signals of what we've sent out, apparently this has been going on for a hundred years and it isn't studied, mind boggling
By all accounts there is nothing especially anomalous about the signals. They are treated as a curious but perfectly natural phenomenon. They're strange but not strange enough to merit looking too closely at. Possibly because it's a little hard to convince people to fund your research to see if signal bouncebacks are signs of ETI probes. Most serious scientists tend to laugh those sorts of people out of the room....
Wow, I thought this is another case of "I am paid to find aliens so here they are" but its not at all. Very good stuff.
Awesome raring to go John. This topic looks extremely interesting. Fascinating as a certain pointy eared individual might say.😂😂
Batman?
@@Cocoa_nutz No, Yoda.
@@rossracing6433 No, Spock.
Excellent interview .Really enjoyed the format ,astrophotography photos interlaced with graphics ,the line of questioning, references to the Wow signal ,Dr Avi Loeb's comments and the 64k question at 57:12 .
My question is, given the fact that we detonated atomic weapons (beginning with Trinity I believe) and given the fact that many physists/astrophysicists refer to space as being a "fabric" , is it possibble that we have inadvertently sent out an "indication" to other "advanced" civilization (s) via the medium of space - time fabric that we are here and posses nuclear arms ?
or by launching things into space, even?
Absolutely love this channel! I even learned a new word today, haha. Ignominious.... Love it! Cheers 🥂
I didn’t know Michael had this other channel pretty sweet!
If we do find an alien artifact the public will never know about it, and i'm not even a conspiratorial type of person
Don't be shamed by name calling out of independent investigation.
Actually, we might not even recognize it in such.
You're right on the money.
Have you ever read the Robertson Panel recommendations? Or the founding statute of NASA? It's all there.
True, when they found the Ark of the Covenant in 2012 Ron Wyatt it was electromagnetically protected, killed two people who touched it.
I think the moon is the biggest alien artifact in the solar system
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Exactly, he's looking for a monolith on top of the moon on a human scale, when the probe could be the entire Moon, it's just encrusted in space dust.
Word
There is a lunar base on the D.S.O.M.
Think reptilians
Yea just happens to be locked and it s the right distance from earth to cover it perfectly during an eclipse . very strange indeed
Every thing hides in plain sight!
im expecting that so long and thanks for all the fish message any day now
"This world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man's and yet as mortal as his own." - War of the Worlds - 1897
1897!!! In a universe of mind boggling dimensions governed by time - that 1 year might make all the difference!!!!!!
@@nelsonclub7722 Well, I see that I had the year off by one thanks to you. I edited that to 1897. ;)
@@DementedCaver I was only being allegorical to the fact we are all governed by time as a little play - no harm or foul meant in anyway!!! - Have a good one - stay safe
@@nelsonclub7722 No problem
If it were me, I would put on an observation post on the moon, partially buried. With the moon being tidal locked, it would have constant view of earth for aliens to record us.
Event horizon. Such a powerful meaning of words.
Enjoyed it, thank you.
31:00 buzz aldrin mentioned a monolith on Phobos a few years ago could this be a possible artefact if Mars was more interesting in the past when there was liquid water and possibly life?
Yeah but I know people that work in the FAA, and they say the amount of unidentified radar signatures they detect is almost constant. They are just told to not worry about it.
By who?
What's to keep an alien probe from being stealthy?
This man asking the important questions ^^^
The laws of thermodynamics. Every machine generates waste heat, and that is pretty easily detectable by infrared sensors. It's drive would also be very visible and obviously artificial, unless it had a reactionless drive. But even then, if it were monitoring us, which presumably it would be as that is the entire point of a probe, there is still computing and mechanical processes happening, which generate waste heat, which is detectable. The only way something could be stealthed is in space is if it came into the system before we had the technology to detect it, and then shut itself down and remained shut down, or it keeps a celestial body between itself and the relative position of Earth. But that would defeat the entire point of a probe, which would want to be constantly detecting.
So unless they can violate the laws of thermodynamics, stealth in space isn't really possible. If they can violate the laws of thermodynamics, they wouldn't need probes in the first place. They would have infinite energy, they could simulate every possible permutation of life in the universe in perfectly realistic detail, they could simulate the entire universe and every atom in it without leaving home.
The other possibility, as Dr. Benford pointed out, is that the probe died before entering our solar system and was incidentally captured by its' gravity, or died after entering our system but before we developed the means to detect or signal it. That is really the only way in such something could be stealthed in space without breaking the laws of physics. If its no longer working, no longer detecting or computing, it would be hard to tell it from a piece of rock in orbit around the Sun.
@@roblangada4516 I agree with most of what you're saying as far as our understanding of physics. You make perfect sense. The trouble is that we don't know what problems they've managed to solve in physics or what level of miniaturization technology they've gotten to.What types of material is used in the probes construction? You're right about being able to detect a stealthy object because above a certain level of friction generates detectable heat, but we'd have to know where in space to look for that heat.
The probe recording a history of Earth is something I never considered. Neat!
Hi John, might it be interesting to do an episode on the transcension hypothesis as a possible solution to the Fermi paradox?
What is that?