Prehistoric Apocalypse, Dinosaurs, and UAP | Dr. L.J. Krumenacker and John Michael Godier
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Join John Michael Godier and Dr. L.J. Krumenacker, a paleontologist from Idaho State University, as they delve into prehistoric extinction events and the mysteries of ancient life on Earth. Discover the fascinating Mesozoic vertebrate assemblages of Idaho, the origins of dinosaurs, and the nuances of the fossil record. Gain insight into how early dinosaur species and diverse prehistoric ecosystems came to light through painstaking research and fieldwork.
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I mean, I'm 45 and it hasn't fallen out yet. I'm past caring if does by now, but I can imagine it's pretty tough for young chaps.
Cool I made a video on that
OOOOH THIS IS GONNA BE A GOOD ONE!
That dude's dinosaur whistling in the background was freaking me out for the first few minutes....
@mattparker9726 With that said these long extant races had no chance seeing as all the nearby planets we've found that are near to us now are just as barren as Mars. Even if they escaped the Earth they had nowhere to go after destroying it and evolution was forced to evolve to destroy intelligence from the advent of abominable creatures on the Earth. At least life here survived but any past civilization it is highly likely is so far removed from us. Perhaps they could build a million Dyson spheres in the timed. Though more likely as the evidence alludes intelligence removes itself from the equation having had a small impact on the planet relatively minor enough to force complex adaptation to arise. If we went extinct tomorrow we would show less of a trace on such timelines of climate for example. So we are relatively new and find with this technology it is very easy to destroy ourselves. Connect the dots to assume an advanced race doesn't commonly outlive the existence of society or even modern man. Though we can have unintended consequences for hundreds of millions of years that make it impossible for society to thrive on the Earth again until an astroid. Then there are signs proceeding this that evolutionarily a convergence happened again
“I’m Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite Podcast on the Citadel!” - Commander Shepard, probably.
John’s favorite game series.
And mine
Love those games even Andromeda to an extent despite its flaws
@@timedeathe I never gave Andromeda a go. I was happy with how it ended.
@@EventHorizonShow John is a gamer? Wow!
I have been falling asleep to Event Horizon, Anton Petrov, Cool Worlds, PBS Spacetime and Isaac Arthur for at least 12 years (among some others). First I listened also to other topics I find interesting such as politics and philosophy, but these topics weren't as calming. For the first years I never knew anyone else did it, but it is interesting how many people have stumbled upon the same thing. I expect that about everyone will agree with me that it's not due to the boringness, but due to the feeling of awe and wonder that makes this so nice to fall asleep to.
Now that I think of this, I have actually been doing this since I was about 4 years old! I asked my parents at night when I was in bed if we can look at the moon together. I have stood with them at the front door, looking at the beautiful moon! Happy memories 🌜
Today I will stay awake a bit longer to listen to this while taking an evening walk! Exciting topics!
Ive had a problem my whole life with falling asleep to things i genuinely find interesting. Like you mentioned, it causes a certain kind of relaxation for some of us.
How about World Science Festival? ^.^
That's also my exact playlist at night!
In addition to John and Isaac and some of the others, I also enjoy Pete Kelly at History Time.
Yes. I have been only doing this for a couple of years. Indeed topics like history, politics or social sciences are not as calming.
This channel is pure gold. And congrats on 300k, should be 3 million.
Thank you! Very kind of you.
At least 3 M!! Absolutely a top notch channel.
Should be 30 million.
What a great, open minded, informative and plain fun guest. More please.
I don't know but I have learned this - AN OPEN MIND IS LIKE AN OPEN WOUND IT'S APT TO FESTER AND ROT lol. A quote from a favorite character in a favorite book. So much truth is packed in it I had to share
I used to hear to these almost exclusively for sleeping.
but today I loved this for working on my paintings
thank you guys
I'm a bit less miserable thanks to you
Good to hear, I wish listening to JMG may make you forget to feel miserable and instead feel happy, fascinated and connected.
What do you paint when you listen to this Channel? UAPs? Supernoveae?
I have always found the silurian hypothesis fascinating. I'll look forward to this👍
Such a good video, I can already tell I am going to love the topic. Am going to watch it in full real soon. Good content, John.
Awesome! Thank you!
I just searched for about 10 minutes for the whistling sound. You got me pretty good.
Just some natural noises. We didn’t add that.
I was doing that too! Just imagine the people that use this to sleep to.
I'm listening now and I'm about to go to bed here in England and I'm looking out the window at the beach thinking my ex is out their whistling 😂
@@geminisundone that’s very Freudian 🤔
@@raymondluxury-yacht1638 Not really...she would do things like whistle when I ignored her 😂✌️
I sat down with the ex head of Ethiopian archeology. My job is to find ancient cities. Lost cities. He drilled it into me. 'Nothing is impossible and you don't know anything" He did give me some clues though! Great guy. If I ever get there I know where to look and where the best coffee is.
Well done guys. Nice to see a more open minded viewpoint from academia
300k subscribers.. wowza! Glad to be one of them! And what an awesome topic, Dinos & UAPs❤
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Thank you for covering UAP!!! .. and dinosaurs too?! EPIC!!
You bet!
The convergent evolution solution to the Fermi Paradox: the universe appears silent because everything else has reached the pinnacle of evolution...we're surrounded by crabs.
Imagine we go out and we find more crabs than people
First podcast host I've heard say he'd like to be fossilized, love ya John shine on you crazy diamond
Such a great song.
Remember when you were young, you shone like the sun
Shine on you crazy diamond
Now there's a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky
Shine on you crazy diamond
@@JohnMichaelGodier and this is part of what makes you a cut above the rest in content creation! Keep em coming man youve got something special
As a Canadian, I'd like to apologize for the geese. They mean well.
We accept.
This was a great exchange, I thought the two of you really vibed well over the course of it, and it was really interesting to listen to.
Fantastic guest John!
The UAP questions earned yourself another subscriber here. The topic needs to be discussed more openly by professionals and scientists. I think it’d be interesting if you asked each guest about something related to UAP to generate further thought and consideration for the topic. Thanks!!
Was not sure where you would go on this one, John. The conversation was intensely interesting and enjoyable.
I mean, maybe we're the Silurians? This epoch could just be the dinosaur intermission. I mean, the archosaurs are still thriving. Both crocodilians and birds belong to that clade... so yes, I guess birds are reptiles at the end of the day! And crocodilians are quite smart, contrary to popular belief. They are known to make traps, etc. Many birds show exceptional intelligence. Moreover, birds have beaks, which means they can eat nuts and seeds. A major advantage if a supervolcano or asteroid ends photosynthesis. Maybe in 50 million years they'll be puzzled by monkeys on the moon.
Now that’s an interesting thought.
Yes, birds can be considered reptiles. They are also the only living dinosaurs.
All birds are descendants of the avian dinosaurs. From condors to humming birds. It's why we have to say "The extinction of the non-avian dinosaurs."
Dinosaurs and reptiles are similar, but not the same. Birds evolved from dinosaurs, not reptiles.
@@melgross Yes, they are. Reptilia is currently defined as the last common ancestor of Testudines (turtles and their kin), Lepidosauria (lizards, including snakes), and Crocodylia (crocodiles and their kin) and all descendants of that ancestor. Although not considered reptiles by the traditional definition, the group Aves (birds) is unambiguously contained within the clade Reptilia, making them reptiles in a cladistic sense.
34:43 we just need to keep digging and eventually we will dig enough to really refute any crazy possibility.
If only it was that easy. Platetectonics has pretty much destroyed all evidence past a certain time in the past. Even dinosaur bones are extremely rare and in many cases educated guesses have to be made because only fragments of bone are found.
Those Nazca mummies sure are weird and if real, they are rather compelling evidence for the Silurian hypothesis. Not so sure if there are many left of those "Silurians". If it's true then they may have been very low in numbers and tried to splice their DNA with humans and other animals in order to have more genetic diversity. They may have failed in that attempt and all that is left is their biological surveillance drones with limited AI and self repairing properties. I mean, it would explain quite a few of the observed behaviours
More of the prehistoric subjects pls! ❤
It's nice to hear content about Idaho that isn't painting us as Supremacist dingbats. :)
I know how you feel...
He needs to change the battery in his budgie.
Great interview and episode as always
No AI could ever replace this voice! Stay human John.
Love this podcast. Keep them coming! Thanks!
We will!
Great episode 👏🏻
41:33 In Canada, we call the Canada Goose a 'Cobra Chicken' 🟥🍁🟥
Bobwhite quail in the background noise at 6:04
@JohnMichaelGodier this one was SUPER good. I like the diversity of guests you have on your show. And that you usually steer towards UAP at some point, with most of your guests, I think it is easily shown, if true, to be a multidisciplinary science.
Great guest John.
Omg I’m so ready for this!!!!
Great interview! Thanks
Great video and information !
Brilliant interview, John! Thanks a bunch!!! 😃
And who wouldn't want a chicken sauros?
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
This is a good one!
Great. As always.
Fantastic juxtaposition of topics.
Educational, thought provoking, with a bit of humor mixed in.
Actually a lot of prehistoric crocodiles were runners. They were strongly build and didnt inhabit the water but instead ran bipedally on land after prey
Terrifying.
One thing which fascinates me is that the fowl birds coexistence with other dinosaurs over the late Cretaceous and from the limited number of fossils they don't seem to have changed all that much since morphologically speaking.
I'm sure I can look it up, but I would have loved to have heard why conical teeth imply aquatic convergent evolution! Convergent evolution fascinates me as well.
I got to map the green river formation in during my geology capstone back in 2019! Plenty of small fossils.
Considering the weaking magnetic field, we'll see many, many more of these aurora days I bet. The storm that caused them was "tiny" compared to older storm that caused aurora in similar places.
The whistling is very distracting
I wasn't sure if it was coming from the video or not, thought I was going crazy.
Seriously. I was getting so annoyed of it I checked outside my window more than a few times. I rewinded the whistling part before going outside to yell at whoever was whistling 😂
Oh dear, I owe some people an apology...
@@burningchrome70 wait, it was _you_ whistling this entire time?!
Yeah, 5 minutes in, cant take it anymore. /pass
What is that whistling? I was just yelling out of my bedroom window at nobody apparently, took me a bit to realize the whistle is coming out of the video LOL!
What would really be cool is if another intelligent life form would show us our complete biological past - and THEIRS! So we could compare the two.
It's like birdbox up in here 😅
If you want to know what extraterrestrial life forms might have converged into, I can recommend "7 days of science" (7dos) series "every time things have evolved into ...". I am 100% sure there's some crab like aliens out there now.
The extionction of the dinosaurs is my #1 top unexlainable alien phenomena.
Oh man there are a lot of scientists in a lot of different disciplines doing real cool science that could easily be relatable to this channel. This could be an absolutely huge Channel if you get everybody from every genre of science
We try to branch out as much as possible. What other areas should we cover that we haven’t?
@@EventHorizonShow first of all wow thank you so much and thank you for all the videos you do I enjoy them all so much! Second I would think it would be harder to find an area of study that does not relate to this channel, any study of anything past future or present can be speculated about on other worlds and can lead to deeper conversations about our own . Go nuts I'll listen to all of it!
Thank you for watching and commenting! Appreciate your insight and opinion.
Before the great dying you could find analogs of convergent evolution in Suminia, which had apposable thumbs but was killed off early in these events before it could evolve further, a match almost for a New World monkey in form ans feature ot had all the same likeness and traits. Dont forget mammalian animals claimed first dominance on the Earth before the dinosaurs. They were similar to modern day life only far removed but likely more similar to moderm mammalian evolution than we assume
The whistle in the background was distracting, I was looking around to figure out where it was coming from 😮
Love those neandersaur's.
The dinosaur in the background wanted to join the conversation.
The cockatiels lol
Nice divergence from space and space rocks. More please.
Did you see this recent episode? The First Image of a Quantum Frozen Electron Wigner Crystal with Prof. Ali Yazdani
czcams.com/video/hO0DCgBp7MA/video.html
@@EventHorizonShow I watched about half. It got too technical for me to continue. It became too much work and not enough fun. Doesn't mean you shouldn't run with that kind of stuff, it's just a bit top right hand corner for me.
Completely understandable! Thanks for watching and commenting. Appreciate it.
@@EventHorizonShow I know it's out in left field, but sometime, it would be great if you interviewed Nick Magnus (the musician). His progressive work and intellectually focused themes would make for a special kind of episode that brings in technology/science fiction/music/and entertainment. He's launching a new album in September. If you have never listened to his music before, check it out, especially the albums N'MONIX and CHILDREN OF ANOTHER GOD. I think you will like it very much.
When you have had a truly anomalous experience that has been verified by a fellow ( now former) sceptical witness and then had later clear evidence of pre cognition….there is no frikken maybe. None. Great guest again John, many thanks.
I was your 300th sub on your original chanel look at u now
Ps that wislingbwas geese ?
Thank you for being with John from the beginning. Yes it was geese and other birds.
the picture at 9:10 is terrifying.
48:11 I couldn't agree more. From what I've seen over many thousands of cases of injury, it looks like the most common type is some sort of energy/radiation burn. In fact, there are UFO experiencers who claim the E.T. warned them to move away from the craft or the would be hurt. This type of witness testimony, to me, brings a lot of credibility, at least colloquially, to these reports.
Congrats on 300k!
Thank you!
UAPs; I love that a relatively common thing is so mysterious! It might actually be sad if we ever figure out what they are…still, I have know!
For better, or for worse, I was endowed with an insatiable curiosity. Unanswered questions are like scabs that must be picked off, Still every solved mystery leaves the world slightly less magical, and I feel a little bit sad.
46:10 "their gift to us . . . is a complete record of the history of life on earth." I actually got a little butterfly flutter in my stomach when you said that. Much better than the evil, judgmental killy-type of aliens. Of course, they could give us this, our greatest dream, say "You have one of your earth days to enjoy our largess, then we wipe you miserable lot off of this planet. We need a place for our new Tiki bar."
What’s with the weird whistles off and on?
Geese and other birds in the background
I, for one, welcome our weird whistle overlords...
Geese are gonna goose.
😂
Notice the whistle every time the mind wonders?
Thinking about about all the species that were here on earth; that we will never know; is a feast for the imagination.
These are always great interviews. The whistling needs to stop tho. Please.
Functionality rules. Animals are the shape which works.
i like the dinosaur skull shaped asteroid towards the end haha
This is a good one. Not discussed enough. It's likely if we think about how we evolved but the lack of evidence direct evidence for a long lost species before us could be a bad thing suggesting civilization is relatively short-lived but not necessarily that difficult for intelligent beings still there's no reason to think this isn't somewhat common given hundreds of millions of years. Practically every other teait evolves multiple times so why not intelligence? There could have been races far longer lived than us totally lost due to the gaps in the fossil record. The great dying is mysterious, but the death of Mars that has been related to this event i believe happened at around 170 MYA. This coincided with Earth ocean acidification and the rise of carniverous dinosaurs soon after. There was a peaceful biosphere on Earth implying some domestication. When Mars got its background radiation there was also a minor spike on Earth though much of the crust from this timenperiod in particular, almost all of it has been lost to subduction even though we have far older examples of Earth's crust whatever existed 170 million years ago is gone. Though from the fossils we have recovered it suggested a more tame biosphere with the largest carnivorous dinosaurs occupying ecological roles similar to savannah lions and not the massive super predators they became. Life at the time was relatively harmless and grew less domesticated with the increased predation leading into the height of the dinosaurs from relative peace within only roughly 1 to 2 million years of these events on Earth.
Hi John, have you heard of some engineers or architects claims that gravity had to be less during the dinosaur epoch. Based on gravity today dinosaurs could not have supported their own weight, nor could have ever flown. Seems like a pretty easy thing to calculate.
Yeah, that’s a bit off the wall.
Dr. Michael Masters would be a good guest to expand on this topic
I titled my video Prehistoric Apocalypse too about the PETM event on my channel. I'm sure it's just ironic lol
I believe it's possible, in the 500 million years life has been complex that nature had preferred civilizations before. Humans settled far older and began agriculture 30 thousand years ago but the ice age didn't allow them to expand and eventually the lone society was extinguished by the wild animals most likely that man had not yet conquered. Unless they were at war with the nomadic peoples, no real evidence of this but also no real sights of defense from large predators besides a small mound for a wall. The region may have flooded also as it was the ice age the shoreline was on the rise
What time is it if you're living right on either of the poles?
Trilobytes are still here!! They’re called horseshoe crabs.
*Of course* the guy has a pet dinosaur 🦖 hahaha awesome 😂
It's not been fully accepted yet, but there is strong evidence that 252 million years ago a meteor struck what is now Antarctica and left a 250 mile wide crater, then 2 million years later Siberian traps started, so that's one heck of a one two punch for life at that time. And I there was a higher percentage of life that went extinct at that time.
Why do the advertisers believe that we event horizon viewers have thinning hair?? I’m offended lol
What is up with the whistling in the background
In the early 80's I had a book about dinosaurs. It had drawings of the dinosaurs in what was thought to be their preferred habitat with a description and facts about the animal. I read th e book so much that it fell apart. Almost everything in the book turned out to be wrong. I like the real animals that we now know they were far more than the large lumbering stupid beasts that were wrong.
Way for the ad to out all the old people who watch
One of us!
Anyone have a link or where to find that smart dinosaur they were talking about? The one that looked like a gray alien?
29:44 what about Nessie? She is only the most famous one,
If Gode trapped you in the basement say formulated shampoo and cough. Good intro, classy. I feel like I'm booting up a videogame or something
I wonder what Orcas and Ravens think of us. They are number 1 in the sky and the sea. As long as we don't have modern tools.
The bit about Jack Horner and his ‘dino-chicken’ experiments at around 42:30 is interesting. Surely some nefarious government or private lab has taken his work to its obvious conclusion. Surely!
Little Jack Horner sat in a corner
Tweaking his dinosaur genes
He picked up a frog
Right out of the bog, and
BOOM! It ate him! tavi.
The bottom line is we are screwed and I don't know if you k ow gow screwed I mean maybe passed specieshad their' time but there is a limit
Spinosaurus being semi aquatic was debunked this year wasn't it
Even if you brought the dinos back unless you also brought back their food source all the way down to the microbiome back with them, they would not look or act quite like the original creatures.
Look at cassowarys or ostriches and you can see the relation to those little clawed dinosaurs...
Silurians at 33:28 .
The fun thing is that we have no way to know if there was human level intelligence 1 billion years ago or more. Even 100 million years ago we have no way to know that. Also, there's no reason to think that dinosaurs did not use tools
There's every reason to think that dinosaurs did not use tools:
1. No tools have ever been found in association with dinosaur remains, unlike the very primitive tools that have been found in association with our primate ancestors. We have thousands of finds of hominid remains in association with tools, including thousands of examples of the very most primitive tools that hominids made-- simple rocks that were just busted against each other to produce a crude sharp edge. Why none for dinosaurs? Because dinosaurs didn't make tools. Occam's razor.
2. No dinosaur remains have ever been found with the brain sizes associated with tool use among mammalian animals.
3. No dinosaur remains have ever been found with hand-like structures that would be necessary to make or manipulate tools.
If humans mysteriously vanished right now, there would be evidence all over this planet of our civilization a billion years from now. Right now, aluminum cans and plastic bottles, as well as all kinds of other fragments of our productions are getting buried in alluvial and off-shore deposits all over the world and will ultimately be entombed in sedimentary rock formations.
Within the radius of a couple of miles of me, right now, there are thousands of pieces of non-rottable human junk slowly sinking into the earth-- bricks, pieces of concrete blocks, broken ceramics, old aluminum pots, glass bottles, broken plastic appliances with copper wiring, etc., and I live in rural western Montana, not a junky area. What would have prevented the exact same processes from preserving the remains of a billion-year-old civilization?
Despite all the erosional influences and upheavals of geological history, we still have the fossils of the bodies of myriad life forms from millions and billions of years ago. How did it happen that there are no tools or other artifacts mixed with all the organic remains from millions of years ago? The answer is that there were no technological species on this planet before us. Simple, no? Do you do basic logic, or is that not a thing for you?
I have fallen into Event Horizon at 00.42 am.
I keep hearing people from rich dummies to respected scientific persons like Jack Horner, whod like to either work back through bird dna to activate genes that would express dinosaur traits like teeth, tails etc... And the aforementioned dummies whod be very happy to spend massive sums on an IRL version of Jurassic Park. When asked how they'd deal with a massive animal like T-Rex's need for more oxygen than what's currently in our atmosphere, you generally get a response in the form of a confused look. So yeah you've resurrected a Tyrannosaurus but big guy needs those oxygen tubes in his nose like they give you at a hospital
Aliens
The Great dying was a reset far worse than the end Cretaceous
The only way future scientists are going to find my fossilized teeth is if they excavate the dump behind my dentist’s office.