The Battle of the L mount: S5iiX vs Blackmagic Cinema 6K
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- Which one should I, or you, choose?
I'm in the marker for a new cinema camera, that Black Magic threw a wrench in my plans by announcing their Black Magic Cinema Camera 6K. Now, I've done the research to compare these two cameras, and I wanted to share my comparison.
In this video, I compare the S5iiX with the newly announced BlackMagic Cinema Camera 6K. I go through the major features of both cameras, and in the end tell you who I believe camera is for.
Follow me through this maze of specs and features, and learn a little more about both of these amazing cameras.
![Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K vs Panasonic Lumix S5ii [Including BRAW]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/iuzKtL8p5M8/mqdefault.jpg)
![Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K vs Panasonic Lumix S5ii [Including BRAW]](/img/tr.png)
I got both s5ll and BMCC6K and I am very happy!
How do you like them together? Any insights on what you like better?
The backup thing is a real big issue for me with the panasonic, because you can't record to the SD card slot on the s52x while recording to external SSD!! I think on the blackmagic you can record a proxy to the SSD. I want to know is if you can record a "rainy-day" proxy onto the internal CFEXPRESS as lowish quality h265 and then use the external SSD as your primary 12 bit BRAW... Can't seem to find any info on this anywhere...
I went with the S5ii x . Having the option of autofocus and the ibis is incredible. Plus can’t you only use braw on the 6k? Also I got my S5ii x brand new in the box body only for 1600 on eBay.
I did forget to mention the IBIS on thr S5iiX. The CC6K does not include any image stabilization, so if you're mostly shooting off a tripod or gimbal, you'll get less shakiness from the panasonic.
This is a very helpful review
Thank you. I'm glad it helped.
For me it all comes down to the look. And the BM6K has the Panasonics beat! Better colorscience, OLPF is great, BRAW in all the good modes, like open gate (which the panys cant).
No, thats definitely a major benefit. I think you can get a better image out of the CC6k, especially with the B raw and the reasons you mentioned.
Blackmagic and panasonic are my favorite brands. I would love to own a blackmagic camera but no af is not good for what i do. There are things i do manual focusing anyway but having no af at all makes the camera not versatile enough for me.
Is it possible to set an external ssd recorder for backups and cfexpress B as pain card?
From my research, I can't confirm that it's the same way with Blackmagic CC6K, but the S5iiX will only record to one type of media at a time. So you have to pick between SSD or SD cards. I can only assume that it will be the same way with the CC6K.
Anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Coming from a Blackmagic 6K Pro I’m more than happy with my S5IIX. And as I already have a 7 inch Video Assist it means I have a larger monitor than even the 6K FF. AND I can record BRAW if I really needed to. But what’s most interesting is here in Australia compared to your prices, the current discount price for body only for the S5IIX and 6K FF is $2799 and $3899 respectively. So the price difference is much bigger! Over $1000! So the S5IIX choice is a much easier one.
Oh wow, that is a huge price difference. Yeah, that makes the s5iix really a no brainer. I appreciate your input, especially because you came from the pocket pro 6k.
Coming from the pocket 6k, do you use the IBIS or autofocus a lot vs what you're used to with the pocket?
Thanks
As the IBIS is built in it's not even something I need to think about, compared to the additional steps needed to add it to the Blackmagic camera. And I mostly use manual focus but now that I've got the ability to turn it on, it gives me much more control over the framing of shots than just making sure everything is in focus. Especially for run and gun handheld work. But as soon as it's a stationary shot, there's no need for it so I just turn it off and control it manually. AND having it work with a speedlight for event photography the S5IIX is really the better option for me. @@lukegphotography9081
Have you been able to record open gate in braw?
@@Sustainavore I haven't myself yet. Currently saving up funds for the S5iix. I can't find too much info online if 6k Raw is supported by the video assist.
@@lukegphotography9081 looks like I'll have to try it out!
I wonder why the s5 has more dynamic range as both cameras share the same sensor
This is exactly what I have been thinking for days. There are some features and discounts that change my mind when I think I have made a decision though:
Does the IBIS in the S5IIX works the same while shooting braw?
Does the S5IIX uses the new autofocus while shooting braw or does it changes to to one of the less reliable modes? I think I heard somewhere that it changes to area mode.
I know the S5IIX is $2,200 and the BM assist $800 taking the price to around $3000, but you can get a 50mm f1.8 for the S5IIX and it only adds $50 to the price because it has a discount if you buy it as a bundle. Therefore, the price of a S5iiX for a new user like me would be $3050 and it will include the camera, a BM assist, and a full frame lens while the BMCC 6K will be around the same price with a 7artisan manual lens.
I would go for the BMCC6k if the IBIS and the autofus changes in the S5iiX when using the BM video assist. If it does not, then I think I would prefer the S5IIX just in case I ever need to take good pictures.
Wow, I completely glossed over the IBIS on the S5iiX. Thank you for mentioning that.
IBIS on the S5iiX should work with the external recorder. I've never heard of any camera loosing IBIS when shooting raw.
Autofocus modes shouldn't change when shooting raw either. The main mode that you'll lose phase detect is in 1080p in higher frame rates.
Price wise, they are so similar that it may make the decision harder depending on deals and bundles you may find. That's why I wanted to make the video, to share my research and help others like you.
I do enjoy my S5ii. The Ibis is amazing, autofocus works really well, and 2 sd card slots.
But the CC6K does have some nice features. The 5 inch display, xlr ports, and internal B Raw.
It really can be a tough decision.
I am aware of the gyro on the BMCC which helps stabilisation (not sure if this was mentioned)@@lukegphotography9081
so today u prefer s5iix or bmcc6k?
Head to head the BM camera comes out ahead in everything but autofocus. I don’t have time to unpack it all, but XLR matters, proper timecode handling matters, a locking DC power input is a big deal, internal RAW (no external recorders to rig), BRAW which means 12-bit all intra recording with lots of latitude, and what about the BM Cloud integration on the way, for many operators that will be a big time saver, simultaneous proxy recording is a plus, CFExpress B saves time with offloads compared with SD. Etc.
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I could talk for an hour about the pros and cons of both. The Cinema 6K will definitely be better for the a more professional setup, not that the S5iiX can't be used professionally. It really depends on the user.
I appreciate your input.